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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Halu Sination on February 19, 2009, 07:10:58 PM
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... and he also wants some rules to be changed.
http://www.whiznews.com/article.php?articleId=24478
LeBron James is still hedging a little on his proclamation that he wants to compete in the slam dunk contest next year, but he didn't say it in the heat of the moment. He feels the contest has "gotten out of control" and plans to recruit some of his fellow superstars to take it back.
"It's got to be cleaned up. They have to go back to maybe the '80s with [Michael Jordan] and Dominique [Wilkins]," James said. "You can't have so many chances at dunking the basketball. The whole anticipation of a dunk contest is one or two tries and that's it. If not you get (a score of) 30 or 35. Guys are getting 10 opportunities to do the same dunk, by the time they complete it, it is like ... 'OK, we've seen it.'"
"Right now I am going to be in it; I won't be the only big-name guy, I'll make sure I get a few guys," James said. "I'm making my game plan."
I gotta agree with LeBron here. That Nate Robinson shit in 06 was ridiculous. So was Rudy Fernandez's this year, and even though I know that ended up costing him in the end and I do honestly feel kinda bad because it was good dunk, we still have his fans bitching about how he got fucked over.
If they clear up the rules a bit, it'll make things a lot less complicated. Take out that 2 minute shit, spectators at home don't realize why some players are getting low scores because they can't see how badly a player is sucking the life out of the crowd by missing a dunk 30 times.
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Another thing I used to like, that they dont do anymore....is they used to measure the players vertical when he was in mid-dunk.
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Another thing I used to like, that they dont do anymore....is they used to measure the players vertical when he was in mid-dunk.
I liked that to but it's understandable why they stopped it, it took the focus away from the creativity aspect and how nice the dunks looked, and it seemingly pushed the focus on how high the dunkers were getting up.
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sounds good to me, Im all for it!!
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Real spit from Lebron
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all in
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Real spit from Lebron
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I agree w/ Bron, lets bring this contest back to how it was in the old days, these last few dunk contests have been pathetic. I'm honestly getting sick of seeing Lil Nate in the contest.
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I agree w/ Bron, lets bring this contest back to how it was in the old days, these last few dunk contests have been pathetic. I'm honestly getting sick of seeing Lil Nate in the contest.
yep, me too
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if he does the contest he better get some good competition to join him
if it's him up against Nate Robinson, why even have the contest? just give him the trophy
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get wade in there too
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Dwight, LeBron, Wade, Kobe & Iguodala :o
fuck Nate, that overrated scrub. ;D
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yea theres no way lil neezy can be in the contest again, that would be horse shit
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Real spit from Lebron
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If Lebron athletic skills are off the hook , his creativity on dunks has been meh so far .... still it's a good idea to try to bring big names and dunkers in this contest ... the latest real one was with Vince, T-Mac and Steve Francis back in 2000 I think ... Robinson is a joke and all that Superman hype is overrated aswell
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If Lebron athletic skills are off the hook , his creativity on dunks has been meh so far .... still it's a good idea to try to bring big names and dunkers in this contest ... the latest real one was with Vince, T-Mac and Steve Francis back in 2000 I think ... Robinson is a joke and all that Superman hype is overrated aswell
cmon, you know how fixed this year was? they had it planned out for Nate to dress up & beat "Superman".
Nate's first dunk was the exact same as JR Smith's, but they gave Nate small bitch points.
i hope LeBron just puts on a fuckin show like Vince back in the day. 8)
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Dwight, LeBron, Wade, Kobe & Iguodala :o
fuck Nate, that overrated scrub. ;D
I wanna see Kobe, Iguodala, Josh Smith, VC, and Lebron there's a contest for you 8)
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Dwight, LeBron, Wade, Kobe & Iguodala :o
fuck Nate, that overrated scrub. ;D
I wanna see Kobe, Iguodala, Josh Smith, VC, and Lebron there's a contest for you 8)
yeah Josh Smith got some serious hops! :o
i think i heard that Jason Richardson is coming back next year; which is cool. he was a BEAST ASS dunker. 8)
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if he does the contest he better get some good competition to join him
if it's him up against Nate Robinson, why even have the contest? just give him the trophy
LeBron isnt that great of a dunker
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if he does the contest he better get some good competition to join him
if it's him up against Nate Robinson, why even have the contest? just give him the trophy
LeBron isnt that great of a dunker
didn't say he was
but if it's him going up against Rudy and Nate Robinson, you think they're not gonna give him the trophy?
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if he does the contest he better get some good competition to join him
if it's him up against Nate Robinson, why even have the contest? just give him the trophy
LeBron isnt that great of a dunker
didn't say he was
but if it's him going up against Rudy and Nate Robinson, you think they're not gonna give him the trophy?
yeah, you guys really dont think that this was staged 100%?
Dwight's first dunk was the farthest thing from a 50 & Nate's first dunk was identical to JR Smith's.
but somehow, coincidentaly, Nate (who was just banking on the hope he made it to the finals to change into green kryptonite) made it to the finals with Dwight (who just happens to be known as Superman, who can only be defeated by kryptonite) & the worse dunker just happened to win 52% to 48% (because obviously Nate has a MUCH bigger fan base ::)). ::)
you throw LeBron in alone vs. regular dudes & they give it to him EASY.
LeBron isnt that great of a dunker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbwF18MqCLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LntJrESZeKI&feature=related :o (personal favorite is #9 ;D)
but yeah, by far the WORST! ::)
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I wonder who else would join? Too bad Kobe and Vince are a little older, or else that would be a killer line up, throw in Robinson and we have a great field.
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I bet that Blake Griffin will be in there, that guy will be picked #1 for sure in the next draft....Dude can throw down !!
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if he does the contest he better get some good competition to join him
if it's him up against Nate Robinson, why even have the contest? just give him the trophy
LeBron isnt that great of a dunker
didn't say he was
but if it's him going up against Rudy and Nate Robinson, you think they're not gonna give him the trophy?
Rudy made some dunks better than anything I've seen out of LeBron's repertoire in this years contest...if Nate's dunks are as good as his dunks this year, he'll also outdo LeBron.
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...if Nate's dunks are as good as his dunks this year, he'll also outdo LeBron.
:nawty:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbwF18MqCLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LntJrESZeKI&feature=related :o (personal favorite is #9 ;D)
but yeah, by far the WORST! ::)
LOL, what the hell are u showing me, you idiot? all those dunks are fuckin basic.
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...if Nate's dunks are as good as his dunks this year, he'll also outdo LeBron.
:nawty:
show me 1 lebron dunk that's better than nate jumpin over dwight.
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I wonder who else would join? Too bad Kobe and Vince are a little older, or else that would be a killer line up, throw in Robinson and we have a great field.
kobe and vince might be older, but they're still some of the best dunkers in the game.
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...if Nate's dunks are as good as his dunks this year, he'll also outdo LeBron.
:nawty:
show me 1 lebron dunk that's better than nate jumpin over dwight.
:loco:
that doesnt make any sense lmao.
maybe LeBron isnt all about showing off & being in the spotlight like you say he tries to be if he is doing "basic dunks" & is about getting the ball through the hoop. ;)
show me some amazing, spectacular Kobe slams... ::)
if you can jump as high as Dwight can (which he can), you cannot be a bad dunker, its almost physically impossible. :laugh:
LeBron will just have to think of something creative and his natural, ridiculous athleticism & skill will just take over.
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...if Nate's dunks are as good as his dunks this year, he'll also outdo LeBron.
:nawty:
show me 1 lebron dunk that's better than nate jumpin over dwight.
:loco:
that doesnt make any sense lmao.
maybe LeBron isnt all about showing off & being in the spotlight like you say he tries to be if he is doing "basic dunks" & is about getting the ball through the hoop. ;)
show me some amazing, spectacular Kobe slams... ::)
if you can jump as high as Dwight can (which he can), you cannot be a bad dunker, its almost physically impossible. :laugh:
LeBron will just have to think of something creative and his natural, ridiculous athleticism & skill will just take over.
the dunk contest isn't about getting the balls through the hoop, you fucking moron. lebron has no agility on dunks, no finess whatsoever, wtf are you even attempting to argue here? and were you fucking serious about me showing you spectacular Kobe dunks? LMAO:
http://www.youtube.com/v/FJhzFrhGTP4
http://www.youtube.com/v/ntLzxb5BQUo
http://www.youtube.com/v/wVGEB8EfHu4
http://www.youtube.com/v/rpOFDoL0IDQ
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y5mS1tLxqO0
http://www.youtube.com/v/3fTnzzlWSjo
http://www.youtube.com/v/kwNOqRSvFuM
http://www.youtube.com/v/GO5JaTJwyBI
I can go on forever...LOL
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^besides the 360 (which was sick), LeBron has done all of those baseline slams (i recall one vs. the Knicks) & bascially every other dunk you just showed.
& you said "show me one dunk LeBron has better than Nate"
i figured you must have been talking about an in-game dunk concidering that LeBron has never been in the dunk contest, so its kind of hard to show you that one. ::)
Kobe is the better player dont get me wrong, but LeBron can do anything Kobe can do & probably more, in the air, ready to throw one down.
if you really cant admit to that, i dont even see a point arguing with you.
not saying LeBron is a shoe-in to win the dunk contest; he still has to come up with something creative & awesome, but there is no dunk that he cant pull off that somebody else can...well besides Nate getting midget points. :P
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you guys look really gay arguing this
shut up already
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^besides the 360 (which was sick), LeBron has done all of those baseline slams (i recall one vs. the Knicks) & bascially every other dunk you just showed.
& you said "show me one dunk LeBron has better than Nate"
i figured you must have been talking about an in-game dunk concidering that LeBron has never been in the dunk contest, so its kind of hard to show you that one. ::)
Kobe is the better player dont get me wrong, but LeBron can do anything Kobe can do & probably more, in the air, ready to throw one down.
if you really cant admit to that, i dont even see a point arguing with you.
not saying LeBron is a shoe-in to win the dunk contest; he still has to come up with something creative & awesome, but there is no dunk that he cant pull off that somebody else can...well besides Nate getting midget points. :P
yea, LeBron does windmills, baseline double pumps, and reverse between the legs...LMAO. you're the new worst poster in this section.
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^besides the 360 (which was sick), LeBron has done all of those baseline slams (i recall one vs. the Knicks) & bascially every other dunk you just showed.
& you said "show me one dunk LeBron has better than Nate"
i figured you must have been talking about an in-game dunk concidering that LeBron has never been in the dunk contest, so its kind of hard to show you that one. ::)
Kobe is the better player dont get me wrong, but LeBron can do anything Kobe can do & probably more, in the air, ready to throw one down.
if you really cant admit to that, i dont even see a point arguing with you.
not saying LeBron is a shoe-in to win the dunk contest; he still has to come up with something creative & awesome, but there is no dunk that he cant pull off that somebody else can...well besides Nate getting midget points. :P
also, you're pathetic for thinking LeBron can have as much flair as players like Vince or Kobe with his dunks...LOL, just wow. and also, LeBron has been in dunk contests before, so stfu with your retarded ass ignorance already.
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you guys look really gay arguing this
shut up already
arguing? stop getting sensitive...no one is arguing, i just think the guy is an idiot for thinking LeBron's power-dunking ass can do the same dunks as the games elite finesse dunkers.
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^besides the 360 (which was sick), LeBron has done all of those baseline slams (i recall one vs. the Knicks) & bascially every other dunk you just showed.
& you said "show me one dunk LeBron has better than Nate"
i figured you must have been talking about an in-game dunk concidering that LeBron has never been in the dunk contest, so its kind of hard to show you that one. ::)
Kobe is the better player dont get me wrong, but LeBron can do anything Kobe can do & probably more, in the air, ready to throw one down.
if you really cant admit to that, i dont even see a point arguing with you.
not saying LeBron is a shoe-in to win the dunk contest; he still has to come up with something creative & awesome, but there is no dunk that he cant pull off that somebody else can...well besides Nate getting midget points. :P
also, you're pathetic for thinking LeBron can have as much flair as players like Vince or Kobe with his dunks...LOL, just wow. and also, LeBron has been in dunk contests before, so stfu with your retarded ass ignorance already.
lmao, i must be pathetic then & i am sure i am not the only pathetic person here who thinks that LMAO.
you guys look really gay arguing this
shut up already
arguing? stop getting sensitive...no one is arguing, i just think the guy is an idiot for thinking LeBron's power-dunking ass can do the same dunks as the games elite finesse dunkers.
yeah, what are you talkin about creepo? :loco:
LOL WHAT?!? LeBron and Vince are practically the same build, Iggy too!
and were talking about the dunk contest moron, did you see the Superman dunk? did you see who won that year? was that pure power or not? ::)
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LeBron and Vince are the same build? LMAO
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LeBron gets up much higher in the air than Kobe does nowadays and dunks alot harder. I know Bron can do all those windmills and between the legs dunks easily.
But still
Vince>>LeBron>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nate Robinson
J Rich and J Smith are up there too, that would be one hell of a dunk off!
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yea, LeBron does windmills, baseline double pumps, and reverse between the legs...LMAO. you're the new worst poster in this section.
BETWEEN THE LEGS (IN GAME DUNK) IN HIGH SCHOOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/_u-GdeOY37Q
LEBRON WINDMILL DUNKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/HSZY75UC8m0
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/WARb1dPlspg
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/gnsHDNbIHek
DOUBLE PUMPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/OOAW0rXJ3HE
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/edAPzRdvXK0
:-* 8)
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LeBron gets up much higher in the air than Kobe does nowadays and dunks alot harder. I know Bron can do all those windmills and between the legs dunks easily.
But still
Vince>>LeBron>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nate Robinson
J Rich and J Smith are up there too, that would be one hell of a dunk off!
LOL...LeBron is a better dunker than Kobe? get the fuck out of here...LeBron, at the age of 24, can't do Kobe's double reverse pump in last years New Orleans game, which was done at the age of 30. The only thing LeBron has on Kobe dunking-wise is power...LeBron's a power dunker. He gets up with a quick burst, not much hang-time ala Kobe, MJ, Vince, etc...PeACe
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LeBron gets up much higher in the air than Kobe does nowadays and dunks alot harder. I know Bron can do all those windmills and between the legs dunks easily.
But still
Vince>>LeBron>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nate Robinson
J Rich and J Smith are up there too, that would be one hell of a dunk off!
LOL...LeBron is a better dunker than Kobe? get the fuck out of here...LeBron, at the age of 24, can't do Kobe's double reverse pump in last years New Orleans game, which was done at the age of 30. The only thing LeBron has on Kobe dunking-wise is power...LeBron's a power dunker. He gets up with a quick burst, not much hang-time ala Kobe, MJ, Vince, etc...PeACe
Kobe is still smooth in the air but he doesn get up as high anymore...Check out his dunks, his head isnt anywhere near rim level nowadays....That dunk he had in the allstar game was tight, but he doesnt get up as high anymore. LeBrons dunks look more spectacular becuase he is looking down at the rim on most cases.
The one thing Kobe does have the advantage on Bron is the 2 foot take-off. Those dunks are usually more impressive and allow for more hangtime. LBJ seems like hes a one foot jump all the time which might not go well for him in the dunk contest.
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Kobe is still smooth in the air but he doesn get up as high anymore...Check out his dunks, his head isnt anywhere near rim level nowadays....
http://www.youtube.com/v/wVGEB8EfHu4
LAMAR OWNUM!
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^^That was pretty sick! But you still dont give LBJ any credit where its due.
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i didnt know that high-school footage on him was on youtube! :o
LMAO, show me a better in-game dunk by anyone than that one, NIK! :laugh:
^^That was pretty sick! But you still dont give LBJ any credit where its due.
& i have to agree with Plant (even though i already said it lol); if LeBron can jump higher, he can clearly do any dunk Kobe can do & more.
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if he does the contest he better get some good competition to join him
if it's him up against Nate Robinson, why even have the contest? just give him the trophy
LeBron isnt that great of a dunker
didn't say he was
but if it's him going up against Rudy and Nate Robinson, you think they're not gonna give him the trophy?
yeah, you guys really dont think that this was staged 100%?
Dwight's first dunk was the farthest thing from a 50 & Nate's first dunk was identical to JR Smith's.
but somehow, coincidentaly, Nate (who was just banking on the hope he made it to the finals to change into green kryptonite) made it to the finals with Dwight (who just happens to be known as Superman, who can only be defeated by kryptonite) & the worse dunker just happened to win 52% to 48% (because obviously Nate has a MUCH bigger fan base ::)). ::)
you throw LeBron in alone vs. regular dudes & they give it to him EASY.
LeBron isnt that great of a dunker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbwF18MqCLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LntJrESZeKI&feature=related :o (personal favorite is #9 ;D)
but yeah, by far the WORST! ::)
Lebron can def throw it down but I have to agree that I'd rather see a more finesse dunker like Kobe or VC as opposed to Lebron or Dwight
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^^That was pretty sick! But you still dont give LBJ any credit where its due.
yea, it was...and it's a dunk lbj cant do...that's all im sayin.
if LeBron can jump higher, he can clearly do any dunk Kobe can do & more.
what a fuckin idiot...as if dunkin is all about how high you can jump. wow. what a retard. :stupid:
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Lebron can def throw it down but I have to agree that I'd rather see a more finesse dunker like Kobe or VC as opposed to Lebron or Dwight
of course....only an idiot wouldnt get that.
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I defo would not advise Kobe to enter the dunk contest....'F that.
(Besides he has already been there and done that)
James need's to take his place, he's already got the 50's in the bag (He just has to show up)
that's how much the contest has been waiting on him. (Even if his dunk's are trash)
let's see a freethrow line dunk..
Some 'Niqe windwill type dunk's, and an OG of his is all he wil need.
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if LeBron can jump higher, he can clearly do any dunk Kobe can do & more.
what a fuckin idiot...as if dunkin is all about how high you can jump. wow. what a retard. :stupid:
LOL, you really act as if LeBron has trouble dunking or something.
he can throw it down as easily & eye appealing (no homo) as anyone.
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if LeBron can jump higher, he can clearly do any dunk Kobe can do & more.
what a fuckin idiot...as if dunkin is all about how high you can jump. wow. what a retard. :stupid:
LOL, you really act as if LeBron has trouble dunking or something.
he can throw it down as easily & eye appealing (no homo) as anyone.
you are beyond retarded for not getting what im saying...its amazing
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if LeBron can jump higher, he can clearly do any dunk Kobe can do & more.
what a fuckin idiot...as if dunkin is all about how high you can jump. wow. what a retard. :stupid:
LOL, you really act as if LeBron has trouble dunking or something.
he can throw it down as easily & eye appealing (no homo) as anyone.
you are beyond retarded for not getting what im saying...its amazing
LOL what are you talking about?!? :laugh:
LeBron can jump higher in the air than Kobe & has just about the same hang-time, still following?
palming a ball is nothing for LeBron (as is for almost any NBA player), so he can go under the legs (as you saw when the dude was STILL IN HIGH-SCHOOL! :o) or do a 360; read the comments about jumping above, we still on the same page?
WE HAVE SEEN, with our own eyes how he can rise & get his head almost half-way up the backboard!
but you just keep believing that Kobe is Jesus' second coming & nobody can do ANYTHING better than him on a court, we'll understand...
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if LeBron can jump higher, he can clearly do any dunk Kobe can do & more.
what a fuckin idiot...as if dunkin is all about how high you can jump. wow. what a retard. :stupid:
LOL, you really act as if LeBron has trouble dunking or something.
he can throw it down as easily & eye appealing (no homo) as anyone.
you are beyond retarded for not getting what im saying...its amazing
LOL what are you talking about?!? :laugh:
LeBron can jump higher in the air than Kobe & has just about the same hang-time, still following?
palming a ball is nothing for LeBron (as is for almost any NBA player), so he can go under the legs (as you saw when the dude was STILL IN HIGH-SCHOOL! :o) or do a 360; read the comments about jumping above, we still on the same page?
WE HAVE SEEN, with our own eyes how he can rise & get his head almost half-way up the backboard!
but you just keep believing that Kobe is Jesus' second coming & nobody can do ANYTHING better than him on a court, we'll understand...
Dude. I know NIK gives LeBron WAYYY too little credit, but please tell me you are kidding.
First and foremost, dunk contests are based off your creativity and how nice your dunks look. LeBron gets up high, but from what we've seen, but he's a power dunker. Amare gets up high as fuck too, but he's a power dunker as well. Same as K-Mart. Power dunkers typically don't translate well into the dunk contest, not including Dwight Howard who basically won thanks to popularity (and I'm assuming this is what LeBron is hoping is gonna happen). Finesse hang-time dunkers are typically the ones who succeed in these tournaments.
And Brandon Roy tested for a 42 inch vertical in the Orlando draft camp, which is higher than almost anybody else's in the NBA. That doesn't mean he would dominate the dunk contest. As a matter of fact, based solely off what we've seen from him, he'd probably get last place.
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^Howard won from fanbase & creativity.
which is the WHOLE point of this conversation!
i said it before, way before NIK got all upset that i think LeBron is even half the dunker Kobe is.
i said he will win if he is creative.
name something, any dunk that Kobe can do that LeBron cant...please.
if LeBron thinks of something awesome (and he wouldnt enter the contest if he didnt think he could come up with something great), he will do it, impress the judges & all the viewers & win that shit.
end thread. 8)
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For the last time, it's not about being able to land the dunk. It's about being able to hit it and making it LOOK GOOD. LeBron is a power dunker, he's in the same mold as Amare and K-Mart.
i said he will win if he is creative.
name something, any dunk that Kobe can do that LeBron cant...please.
if LeBron thinks of something awesome (and he wouldnt enter the contest if he didnt think he could come up with something great), he will do it, impress the judges & all the viewers & win that shit.
The whole "name a dunk that he can't do" argument is irrelevant to the entire conversation. Name a dunk LeBron can do that Kobe can't. While we're at it, name a dunk LeBron can do that Amare can't (and yes, since you probably aren't going to do the research, Amare can hit an under-the-leg dunk and 360).
This is a stupid argument because almost everybody who's good enough to make it to a dunk contest can do the same fucking dunks that other contestants can do. But since you seem so adamant on this argument...
http://www.youtube.com/v/ntLzxb5BQUo
http://www.youtube.com/v/dMnlAvYxa4o
Both of these dunks were on the NBA Street Volume Dunks DVD. In this DVD, LeBron James, in response to these dunks, says he couldn't even see himself pulling those off. And the second dunk isn't even that physically demanding. Yet you know why Bron said what he said? Because those are finesse, fancy dunks, which Bron doesn't have the co-ordination for. Bron is a POWER DUNKER. Bron's mission is to break the rim every time he runs in. Now quite honestly, ever since Shawn Kemp I've always enjoyed the power dunks more than the flashy dunks anyways. But there's a reason Shawn Kemp lost to Dee Brown and Isaiah Rider.
And just for your info, I DO think LeBron has a chance at winning the contest, although I want to see who the competition is before I make any predictions. But it seems like you're letting NIK get you so bent out of shape that you're starting to use irrational arguments. Kobe and Bron are different types of dunkers, both are great at what they do but one is better suited for dunk contests.
Oh yeah. And end thread. 8)
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^LOLOL WHAT?!?
i am the one who said that LeBron can do what Kobe can after a certain somebody said LeBron isnt all that great of a dunker.
i know almost every big time dunker can do what each other can & LeBron is CLEARLY one of them.
like i ALREADY said, the DUNK CONTEST is going to come down to creativity & fanbase.
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^LOLOL WHAT?!?
i am the one who said that LeBron can do what Kobe can after a certain somebody said LeBron isnt all that great of a dunker.
i know almost every big time dunker can do what each other can & LeBron is CLEARLY one of them.
like i ALREADY said, the DUNK CONTEST is going to come down to creativity & fanbase.
Don't worry about what he said, everybody already knows he has a huge bias against Bron. What YOU said was "name any dunk that he can do etc." and I already elaborated that being able to jump high doesn't mean you can do any kind of dunk, hence LEBRON HIMSELF saying he couldn't even picture himself pulling off those specific Kobe dunks I posted. The flash comes from co-oridination, finesse, and smoothness, which Bron doesn't have because he's a completely different type of a dunker.
And again, the Brandon Roy example. One of the highest vertical leaps in the NBA. Doesn't exactly mean he can hit every dunk possible left and right.
But all of these aside, none of that even matters because dunk contests aren't even about that. It's not only about creativity, it's about making the dunks look good. The fact of the matter is, from what LeBron has shown us, his dunks are more about power (like the Shawn Kemps/Amares) than the smoothness (like the Carters/Kobes). Shawn Kemp is one of the sickest dunkers the world has ever seen. You know why he never won a single contest? Because power dunkers aren't meant to have pretty dunks. Their dunks are awe-inspiring because combined with the great athleticism, they look like they're about to break the rim off and kill anybody who tried to get in the way of the dunk. Power dunks are amazing for the exact opposite reason that finesse dunks are amazing. One meant to be an ugly sight, and one is meant to be pretty.
I'm not counting Bron out. I'm just saying power dunkers in general don't translate well in dunk contests and you are blind if you can't see that.
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wow...chamilitary is officially the dumbest poster in this section. lmao.
and you may think i give lebron way too little credit, but i do think hes an excellent player... i just get upset when people put him up their with the greatests, cuz that's embarrassing to true basketball heads.
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ugh, why do i always have to deal with the "smartest basketball anaylsts" in the world? ::)
fuck that Brandon Roye can jump high & just trying to turn it against me.
i am not talking about anyone but LeBron, if you cant see that he can CLEARLY, WITHOUT QUESTION get WAY above the rim & higher than Kobe you need to be checked out or something. :P
LeBron did that 1st dunk (you posted) against the Knicks, just didnt double pump.....because he didnt have to LMAO.
& why do i keep getting in-game dunks though?
THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD, like read the title seriously, is about the dunk contest.
point is, you cant say Kobe would sweep the floor with LeBron in a dunk contest, because not only is creativity one factor (that could go either way), but did anyone see the Superman dunk? pure, 100% power & won him the dunk conest, so dont give me this "finesse" bullshit either.
speaking of the Superman dunk, thats what i mean when i say "show me something Kobe can do that LeBron cant".
Nate can PHYSICALLY not do that dunk, whereas Kobe & LeBron can all do the same things.
*waits for NIK to come in with his usual personal comments & not try to defend his Kobe-licious side of the argument* ::) :D
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Yes, Dwight Howard won. That's why I said FOR THE MOST PART, power dunkers don't translate well. Did I say Bron has no chance at winning?
ugh, why do i always have to deal with the "smartest basketball anaylsts" in the world? ::)
You better not have been talking about me. I'm gonna be real, even though I probably know more about the game of basketball than you and have consistently been breaking it down in analysis more clearly than nearly everyone else here, I've kept it 100% respectful and humble in every post and I've taken your arguments seriously without trying to mock anybody. I'm not the type of arrogant asshole who runs around bragging on the internet (like a certain group of individuals here) about how knowledgeable they are in sports, because those guys are fags with no lives and need to realize that nobody cares.
But if you're gonna try to be a smart-ass then fuck that, I'll just say it like it is. Your argument is fucking retarded. One player (Dwight Howard) being an exception to the rule doesn't change the fact that power dunkers never had a good history in the dunk contest. You point out how high above the rim LeBron gets up because you say that factors into him being able to execute any dunk, and then you say Brandon Roy getting that high is irrelevant? No, it's not irrelevant. It's a goddamn good reason why you can't just assume that getting up high above the rim means you can execute any kind of dunk possible. Shit, Shawn Kemp gets higher above the fucking rim than both LeBron and Kobe.
If NIK's arguments bother you, that's cool. But don't act like every single Laker fan has said the exact same thing that he said. I already said LeBron is a fantastic dunker, all I said was that his style of dunkers hasn't been successful in the dunk contest except one fucking player, and that being said, I STILL NEVER COUNTED LEBRON OUT.
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^Howard won from fanbase & creativity.
which is the WHOLE point of this conversation!
i said it before, way before NIK got all upset that i think LeBron is even half the dunker Kobe is.
i said he will win if he is creative.
name something, any dunk that Kobe can do that LeBron cant...please.
if LeBron thinks of something awesome (and he wouldnt enter the contest if he didnt think he could come up with something great), he will do it, impress the judges & all the viewers & win that shit.
end thread. 8)
Amen.
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Yes, Dwight Howard won. That's why I said FOR THE MOST PART, power dunkers don't translate well. Did I say Bron has no chance at winning?
ugh, why do i always have to deal with the "smartest basketball anaylsts" in the world? ::)
But if you're gonna try to be a smart-ass then fuck that, I'll just say it like it is. Your argument is fucking retarded. One player (Dwight Howard) being an exception to the rule doesn't change the fact that power dunkers never had a good history in the dunk contest. You point out how high above the rim LeBron gets up because you say that factors into him being able to execute any dunk, and then you say Brandon Roy getting that high is irrelevant? No, it's not irrelevant. It's a goddamn good reason why you can't just assume that getting up high above the rim means you can execute any kind of dunk possible. Shit, Shawn Kemp gets higher above the fucking rim than both LeBron and Kobe.
alright, lmao...ughhh
well see, Brandon Roy is irrelevant because when LeBron jumps his head is half way to the top of the backboard, when Roy jumps his head gets slightly above the rim.
if they both jumped there highest & tried to see who could touch higher on the backboard, LeBron would get at good 2-2 & 1/2 feet on Roy lmao.
i apologize for the fact i said jumping is everything, i didnt mean jumping, i meant getting that high in the air.
you guys act like LeBron has a difficulty dunking or something, like Kobe is a billion times the dunker LeBron can ever be. :laugh:
^Howard won from fanbase & creativity.
which is the WHOLE point of this conversation!
i said it before, way before NIK got all upset that i think LeBron is even half the dunker Kobe is.
i said he will win if he is creative.
name something, any dunk that Kobe can do that LeBron cant...please.
if LeBron thinks of something awesome (and he wouldnt enter the contest if he didnt think he could come up with something great), he will do it, impress the judges & all the viewers & win that shit.
end thread. 8)
Amen.
;) 8)
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if they both jumped there highest & tried to see who could touch higher on the backboard, LeBron would get at good 2-2 & 1/2 feet on Roy lmao.
LMFAO...holy shit. :-X
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if they both jumped there highest & tried to see who could touch higher on the backboard, LeBron would get at good 2-2 & 1/2 feet on Roy lmao.
LMFAO...holy shit. :-X
::) fool...