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Title: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Meho on February 27, 2009, 02:42:49 PM
I can't tell because back then I didn't have world wibe web yet  :P

As far as I know there are 4 tracks from that era:

- Addictive (original version)
- Addicitve remix
- After You Die
- The Wacther 2
- R.A.K.I.M.

I'm espeically curious what was the general opinion on Addictive. I liked that joint and when I heard the remix I thought to myself that it should've been the jump off single for "Oh My God". Since he was on major, a crossover record was to be expected and Addictive did just that without being corny. Of course "After You Die" is an amazing track imo, from production to subject matter. Didn't really like the 8 Mile joint mostly because of the wierd ass beat from Denuan Porter. I also remember reading that Dre turned down several Premo tracks right ?

Shit, I completley forgot about The Watcher 2, another classic track and that 50's "Heat" was originally a Rakim beat but didn't know what direction to take ?
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Kurupt1607 on February 27, 2009, 02:49:05 PM
I would love to hear to this Oh My God stuff, this album was very expecting at this time.

I really liked Addictive (i like Truth Hurts's album too), it's just shit Iovine rejected the album (even if Ra' left the label because of difference between him and Dre), it was surely straight fire, like for Detox, I remember Dre worked on it during a long time... the two monsters were working together > Dre and Primo (anyone would love hear this shit).

"Cruel World" (written on Vault's Dre) is song i would like to hear, to feel more the Oh My God sounds and kind of beat.

If i have good memory, they talked about a Rakim/Eminem collaboration...

I hope to hear this unreleased album in the future...  ::)
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 27, 2009, 02:53:48 PM
yeah mos def a classic era
rakim damn him and dre
damn what a duo!!

sad his album never dropped, i think it will leak sooner or later

them traxx tho are dope

that middle eastern shit he did was crazy
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Hatesrats™ on February 27, 2009, 02:56:31 PM
I Liked both Addictive's..
It was defo alot of time lost tho, IMO

It would not suck to someday hear those sessions..
Tho I doubt we ever will, Then again "Thy Kingdom Come" did leak/Release in some form..
(That's King Tee BTW 4 those that don't know)

But yeah bro.. I defo consider it a missed oppertunity for RA mostly & Hip-Hop.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 27, 2009, 02:59:54 PM
guess dre wanted 50 to write for rakim?
rakim left and never looked back
haha
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 27, 2009, 03:06:51 PM
He might have left but he's done nothing since.damn I would give someones elses left nut to hear that album.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 27, 2009, 03:09:30 PM
HAHA
aite what you want to hear more

DRETOX
OH MY HOD
ANY CROOKED UNRELEASED ALBUM
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: kuruptDPG on February 27, 2009, 03:10:32 PM
didnt realise ther was such album between the 3, damn wouldve been a monster to hear.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 27, 2009, 03:41:56 PM
That's a hard choice.I guess ill go with crooked I since he's my favorite artist.
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Post by: the ghost on February 27, 2009, 04:05:51 PM
I just get sad.  Rakim is the GOAT to me and to hear him on some Dre production is something I'm sorry to miss.  RAKIM was so underrated.  The beat is a weird timed, off step, chugging type of thing, and Ra just rips it.  Who else could flow to that beat and make it work. 
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 27, 2009, 04:15:02 PM

haha thats waz up
the few new traxx that leaked from him are fuckin crazy
"word on the streets"
damn that shit is mad dope


That's a hard choice.I guess ill go with crooked I since he's my favorite artist.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Hittman2001 on February 27, 2009, 09:39:47 PM
I was so hyped for this back in 02 and 03 along with detox.  All the tracks he did during his time at aftermath were great.  Wish we could've heard the album.  hopefully there will be a collab on detox :)
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: CharlieBrown on February 27, 2009, 11:18:38 PM
Hate It or Love It (I would put scratching instead of 50) & the joint with M.O.P should have been released. They lived up to the hype.
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on February 28, 2009, 12:36:29 AM
Addictive was off the hook  8)
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Dre-Day on February 28, 2009, 12:57:32 AM
addictive was trash  :-X
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: T-Dogg on February 28, 2009, 02:08:53 AM
I thought we really missed out on something when they parted ways. They would've cooked up something great together, I'm sure. The tracks that they put out and what little leaks I've heard only speak in favor of this.
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Post by: Kool Beenz on February 28, 2009, 02:11:19 AM
there was never really a Dre and Rakim Era... there was only collaborations
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Prof@ssor on February 28, 2009, 03:13:16 AM
addictive was trash  :-X

what was trash about it? it was a very good song imo
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Prof@ssor on February 28, 2009, 03:17:04 AM
I can't tell because back then I didn't have world wibe web yet  :P

As far as I know there are 4 tracks from that era:

- Addictive (original version)
- Addicitve remix
- After You Die
- The Wacther 2
- R.A.K.I.M.

I'm espeically curious what was the general opinion on Addictive. I liked that joint and when I heard the remix I thought to myself that it should've been the jump off single for "Oh My God". Since he was on major, a crossover record was to be expected and Addictive did just that without being corny. Of course "After You Die" is an amazing track imo, from production to subject matter. Didn't really like the 8 Mile joint mostly because of the wierd ass beat from Denuan Porter. I also remember reading that Dre turned down several Premo tracks right ?

Shit, I completley forgot about The Watcher 2, another classic track and that 50's "Heat" was originally a Rakim beat but didn't know what direction to take ?

there's also ''Dream Come True'' ... ever heard it? i love that beat ... never heard the version with rakims voice on though... btw could sum1 up the RAKIM joint?
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Dre-Day on February 28, 2009, 03:18:49 AM
addictive was trash  :-X

what was trash about it? it was a very good song imo
too generic imo
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 28, 2009, 03:22:26 AM
I can't tell because back then I didn't have world wibe web yet  :P

As far as I know there are 4 tracks from that era:

- Addictive (original version)
- Addicitve remix
- After You Die
- The Wacther 2
- R.A.K.I.M.

I'm espeically curious what was the general opinion on Addictive. I liked that joint and when I heard the remix I thought to myself that it should've been the jump off single for "Oh My God". Since he was on major, a crossover record was to be expected and Addictive did just that without being corny. Of course "After You Die" is an amazing track imo, from production to subject matter. Didn't really like the 8 Mile joint mostly because of the wierd ass beat from Denuan Porter. I also remember reading that Dre turned down several Premo tracks right ?

Shit, I completley forgot about The Watcher 2, another classic track and that 50's "Heat" was originally a Rakim beat but didn't know what direction to take ?

All those tracks you mentioned were tracks I really loved and still listen to to this day.  I have no doubt a Rakim Aftermath album would have been a dream come true.   Sad that they scrapped it, cause it's exactly what was needed to save hip-hop.  But now it's dead, so fuck it.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: RingMan on February 28, 2009, 03:29:17 AM
add Welcome 2 The Hood to your list, it's also produced by Dre, so I guess it's from his Aftermath era, does somebody believe in 7th Seal as I do?

and Busta used After You Die as Legend of the Fall Offs on The Big Bang
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Prof@ssor on February 28, 2009, 03:39:38 AM
addictive was trash  :-X

what was trash about it? it was a very good song imo
too generic imo

there were a lot of original elements in, especially the remix...but then maybe it's just because im a bit more oriental than you lol...
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Dre-Day on February 28, 2009, 03:45:08 AM
addictive was trash  :-X

what was trash about it? it was a very good song imo
too generic imo

there were a lot of original elements in, especially the remix...but then maybe it's just because im a bit more oriental than you lol...
i'm speaking of the formula of the song.
that doesn't mean that the production can't be original  ;)

the remix is a bit more listenable for me, but it's still not the type of song i'd like to listen to
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: K.Dub on February 28, 2009, 04:21:52 AM
I'm not feeling that Addictive song at all, even though the R had a dope verse on remix.

Watcher 2 is awesome.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: k-dogg on February 28, 2009, 07:41:47 AM
It's kind of weird in a way how Rakim is considered maybe the G.O.A.T but really did not do much (since the Eric B. days)  before signing with Dre and has not done much since leaving.....Considering his work rate for putting out songs, I don't think you can blame Dre on this one..Rakim might be the greatest but his work rate is totally different from Tupac's who was legendary for putting out music...I just wonder how dude is even eating. 
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Post by: Okka on February 28, 2009, 09:19:43 AM
Didn't Rakim leave with the album? Why hasn't he released it?
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: stillinrehab on March 01, 2009, 11:18:27 PM
Didn't Rakim leave with the album? Why hasn't he released it?

Good question if its true!  8)
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on March 01, 2009, 11:28:43 PM
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=184072.0

All the tracks...
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on March 01, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
It's kind of weird in a way how Rakim is considered maybe the G.O.A.T but really did not do much (since the Eric B. days)  before signing with Dre and has not done much since leaving.....Considering his work rate for putting out songs, I don't think you can blame Dre on this one..Rakim might be the greatest but his work rate is totally different from Tupac's who was legendary for putting out music...I just wonder how dude is even eating. 


He does alot of live shows...  Alot..  Don't forget all the albums he's sold.  Rakim was not reckless with his money...
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: jeromechickenbone on March 01, 2009, 11:53:26 PM
I remember back in 99 I was so hyped about this.  However, I was disappointed with the little that we did hear.  Of course Dre and Ra are dope, but their styles just don't really mesh well.  Sorta like Nas and Dre didn't work when they fucked around 10+ years ago (although Detox might be a diff story w/ Nas)

Ra is not a gangsta rapper and a lot of Dre's shit is for clubs.  It's apples and oranges.
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Post by: Tha Crip on March 02, 2009, 12:45:42 AM
You can also add "It Aint Kool" featuring Truth Hurts (beat sounds like either a hi-tek or mel-man beat to me), its definately gotta be an aftermath track since truth is on it.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Black Excellence on March 02, 2009, 03:20:33 PM
too bad the shit didn't work out.
Title: Re: So how did hip-hop heads feel about Rakim & Dre era
Post by: Tha Crip on March 02, 2009, 05:48:18 PM
another aftermath track

Rakim ft Truth Hurts - "It Aint Kool"

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5643474964df45db/ (http://www.zshare.net/audio/5643474964df45db/)
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 02, 2009, 05:53:41 PM
damn this is dope
rakim is fuckin crazy



another aftermath track

Rakim ft Truth Hurts - "It Aint Kool"

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5643474964df45db/ (http://www.zshare.net/audio/5643474964df45db/)