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Title: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: dameons on March 03, 2009, 03:54:18 PM
I say Cube . For example ,  "3 Strikes You In" ..Cube parallels a baseball game and felonies with perfection. Who else could do that ?
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: the ghost on March 03, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
DOC...No one can do it better has some ahead of it's time lyricism, plus he's written a ton of stuff for other artists we don't know about.  Cube is tight, but I think that the DOC is more advanced.  I never heard of DOC using a ghostwriter....he does the ghostwriting:)
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: spice2 on March 03, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
DOC is doper when he was writing for himself. But Ice Cube's lyrics are better than the lyrics DOC ghostwrites.
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: Fatdodger on March 03, 2009, 05:04:56 PM
KNOCTURNAL
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: BIGWORM on March 03, 2009, 09:18:54 PM
D.O.C. how the fuck can you guys forgett about The Chronic & Doggystyle D.O.C. & RBX wrote alot on them! And If DEEP COVER/187UM wasn't written by the D.O.C. I can't see it.

Even that Snoop & R-Kelly track "Thats that shit".....
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: Dre-Day on March 04, 2009, 12:47:16 AM
they are both great writers, but you can't compare them IMO
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: the ghost on March 04, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
they are both great writers, but you can't compare them IMO

It is hard.  Sadly too much of the DOC's work is uncredited. You can hear his influence or read about a few songs, but sadly I don't think we'll ever know the extent of his work which I believe is actually huge.  I think that he had his hand in a lot off classics credited to other rappers, like cube, snoop, dre..and lots of others.
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: Dre-Day on March 04, 2009, 10:29:03 AM
they are both great writers, but you can't compare them IMO

It is hard.  Sadly too much of the DOC's work is uncredited. You can hear his influence or read about a few songs, but sadly I don't think we'll ever know the extent of his work which I believe is actually huge.  I think that he had his hand in a lot off classics credited to other rappers, like cube, snoop, dre..and lots of others.
i actually had a different argument than you: i should have added they have their own style  ;)

but you made a valid point.
i guess you can say that the DOC doesn't get the props he deserves.
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: J.E. on March 04, 2009, 10:38:21 AM
D.O.C. how the fuck can you guys forgett about The Chronic & Doggystyle D.O.C. & RBX wrote alot on them! And If DEEP COVER/187UM wasn't written by the D.O.C. I can't see it.

Even that Snoop & R-Kelly track "Thats that shit".....

He didn't write Snoops parts on Doggystyle, he just teached Snoop & told him how to make better songs. From what I've read.

DOC's lyrics on "No One Can Do It Better" are dope. But u gotta remember that Ice Cube in 88-92 (or 88-96 actually) was something crazy.

So if u only count own lyrics. It's Ice Cube. And if you count ghostwrited lyrics its probably DOC.
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: Booz on March 04, 2009, 10:43:46 AM
D.O.C. how the fuck can you guys forgett about The Chronic & Doggystyle D.O.C. & RBX wrote alot on them! And If DEEP COVER/187UM wasn't written by the D.O.C. I can't see it.

Even that Snoop & R-Kelly track "Thats that shit".....

He didn't write Snoops parts on Doggystyle, he just teached Snoop & told him how to make better songs. From what I've read.
They wrote together and picked the best verses...that's what I've read.
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: J.E. on March 04, 2009, 10:48:47 AM
D.O.C. how the fuck can you guys forgett about The Chronic & Doggystyle D.O.C. & RBX wrote alot on them! And If DEEP COVER/187UM wasn't written by the D.O.C. I can't see it.

Even that Snoop & R-Kelly track "Thats that shit".....

He didn't write Snoops parts on Doggystyle, he just teached Snoop & told him how to make better songs. From what I've read.
They wrote together and picked the best verses...that's what I've read.

Well something like that anyway. People just seem to forget that Snoop can write his own lyrics too since he used ghostwriters on his last album
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: Okka on March 04, 2009, 10:57:03 AM
Well something like that anyway. People just seem to forget that Snoop can write his own lyrics too since he used ghostwriters on his last album

Well, it's not the first time. Snoop been usin' people to write his shit since "Tha Doggfather".
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: Black Excellence on March 04, 2009, 04:53:55 PM
Well something like that anyway. People just seem to forget that Snoop can write his own lyrics too since he used ghostwriters on his last album

Well, it's not the first time. Snoop been usin' people to write his shit since "Tha Doggfather".
yeah but he still can write his own shit and can freestyle shit too. maybe he gets writer's block. but anyway my vote's for the d.o.c. his name is etched in many classics then and to come.
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: yeapp on March 04, 2009, 05:48:28 PM
Well something like that anyway. People just seem to forget that Snoop can write his own lyrics too since he used ghostwriters on his last album

Well, it's not the first time. Snoop been usin' people to write his shit since "Tha Doggfather".

"Doggystyle" is where he started using DOC help by that I mean ghostwriting. LMMFAO.Snoop is trash. This is a hard call ima go wit Cube. Who Ghostwrote "Keep Their Heads Ringin'"
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: D-Nice on March 04, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
Well something like that anyway. People just seem to forget that Snoop can write his own lyrics too since he used ghostwriters on his last album

Well, it's not the first time. Snoop been usin' people to write his shit since "Tha Doggfather".

"Doggystyle" is where he started using DOC help by that I mean ghostwriting. LMMFAO.Snoop is trash. This is a hard call ima go wit Cube. Who Ghostwrote "Keep Their Heads Ringin'"

I think J Flexx wrote that song
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: INGlewood4Life on March 09, 2009, 12:24:49 AM
Doc helped snoop learn what 16 bars were and etc.  Cube was and is a mastermind as far as story tell like Gangster Fairytale  Once Upon a Time  Mans Best Friend Summer Vacation Ghetto Vet come on now  DOC  did have skills though  like Whirl wind pyramid No One can Do it Better!  Hatcreek Pirus Biotch
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: spice2 on March 09, 2009, 10:50:39 AM
D.O.C. how the fuck can you guys forgett about The Chronic & Doggystyle D.O.C. & RBX wrote alot on them! And If DEEP COVER/187UM wasn't written by the D.O.C. I can't see it.

Even that Snoop & R-Kelly track "Thats that shit".....

yeah but considering Ice Cube's rhymes are better than Dre and Snoop's (the ones the D.O.C. helped write) I gotta go with Cube.
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: INGlewood4Life on March 10, 2009, 01:29:26 AM
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Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 16, 2009, 07:24:58 AM
D.O.C. how the fuck can you guys forgett about The Chronic & Doggystyle D.O.C. & RBX wrote alot on them! And If DEEP COVER/187UM wasn't written by the D.O.C. I can't see it.

Even that Snoop & R-Kelly track "Thats that shit".....

Snoop said he wrote Deep Cover
Title: Re: Who writes doper lyrics Ice Cube or The DOC ????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 16, 2009, 07:25:23 AM
D.O.C. how the fuck can you guys forgett about The Chronic & Doggystyle D.O.C. & RBX wrote alot on them! And If DEEP COVER/187UM wasn't written by the D.O.C. I can't see it.

Even that Snoop & R-Kelly track "Thats that shit".....

yeah but considering Ice Cube's rhymes are better than Dre and Snoop's (the ones the D.O.C. helped write) I gotta go with Cube.

are they really??