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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: thisoneguy360 on March 12, 2009, 04:07:41 PM
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Someone's butt hurt....
NEW YORK (AP) — Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon on Thursday stood by a magazine interview in which he compared former teammate Manny Ramirez to cancer and said Boston made the right decision when it traded the slugger to the Los Angeles Dodgers last summer.
Papelbon was quoted in the April issue of Esquire as saying, ``He was on a different train! And you saw what happened with that. We got rid of him, and we moved on without him.''
The story was posted on the magazine's Web site Thursday.
``So Manny was tough for us,'' Papelbon added. ``You have somebody like him, you know at any point in the ballgame, he can dictate the outcome of the game. And for him not to be on the same page as the rest of the team was a killer, man! It just takes one guy to bring an entire team down, and that's exactly what was happening.''
``Once we saw that, we weren't afraid to get rid of him. It's like cancer. That's what he was. Cancer. He had to go. It sucked, but that was the only scenario that was going to work. That was it for us. And after, you could feel it in the air in the clubhouse. We got Jason Bay - Johnny Ballgame, plays the game right, plays through broken knees, runs out every ground ball - and it was like a breath of fresh air, man! Awesome! No question.''
In the Red Sox clubhouse before playing the Cardinals in Jupiter, Fla., on Thursday, Papelbon backed up his assertions.
``I'm not afraid to say it,'' he said. ``If it's the truth and I believe it, I'll say it.''
Papelbon also said he had not heard from teammates or anyone else asking him to soften his statements about Ramirez.
``Because I think they all know that's the truth,'' he said. ``If I said something that was out of line, then yeah. But I don't think I said anything that's out of line. I spoke the truth.
``There's no secrets here. So, I'm not coming up with some new big hidden secret that nobody knows about. This is something everybody's been knowing about...and it is old news,'' he added. ``But I know those comments just came out today from a magazine (interview) that I did in the first of December. But there's no secrets here. The writing is on the wall.''
Manager Terry Francona didn't condone Papelbon's remarks, while noting the closer usually says what's on his mind.
``That's Pap's personality,'' Francona said. ``The one thing we don't ever want is somebody criticizing their own teammates. They know that.''
Francona would have preferred that Papelbon kept his thoughts to himself.
``Pap is pretty open about how he feels about everything,'' Francona said. ``From my point of view, if I ever have something to say to a player, I'll say it to him in my office.''
Ramirez was sent to Los Angeles on Aug. 31 as part of a three-team trade in which Boston received Bay from Pittsburgh. Ramirez became a free agent after the season, then agreed last week to a $45 million, two-year deal with the Dodgers.
``As an organization, we do what we think is in the best interests of our ballclub,'' Francona said. ``That's what we did. That's what we'll continue to do. The moves we make, I think that speaks volumes enough.''
Papelbon said that while some players tried to talk to Ramirez about his behavior, he was not among them.
``Well, I think some guys on our team that maybe could talk to him,'' Papelbon said. ``Guys like me I can't talk no sense into him. I think there's other guys on this team that had a better opportunity at that than me.''
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that cancer single handedly took the Dodgers within 3 wins of the World Series..... smoke away!!
I think the Boston players are just a bunch of uptight fags to be honest....
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Francona does not seem pleased lol
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that cancer single handedly took the Dodgers within 3 wins of the World Series..... smoke away!!
I think the Boston players are just a bunch of uptight fags to be honest....
If you were a Boston fan, you would be singing a different tune. Papelbon just said the sentiment of most Red Sox Fans and the Front Office, publically. That's why I'm glad the Dodgers gave him a Player Option after 1 year, give his ass some sort of incentive to play out the season.
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I think Curt Schilliing Jr. should keep his mouth shut even if he is right.
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I think Curt Schilliing Jr. should keep his mouth shut even if he is right.
lol nice nickname. Yeah, there is really no point in bringing it up.
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I think Curt Schilliing Jr. should keep his mouth shut even if he is right.
lol nice nickname. Yeah, there is really no point in bringing it up.
exactly man, I hate it when athletes come out and talk about other athletes like this through the media, it is so weak!!
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that cancer single handedly took the Dodgers within 3 wins of the World Series..... smoke away!!
I think the Boston players are just a bunch of uptight fags to be honest....
If you were a Boston fan, you would be singing a different tune. Papelbon just said the sentiment of most Red Sox Fans and the Front Office, publically. That's why I'm glad the Dodgers gave him a Player Option after 1 year, give his ass some sort of incentive to play out the season.
the guy was a giant part of them winning 2 fucking World Series, these Boston players are stupid for even bringing it up
enough of this "you'll see..." bullshit I said before, he's not the first pro athlete to bitch about a contract
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ROFL at Schilling Jr. ;D
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Papelbons a dirty peice of shit jewbag faggot loving queer homosexual ass nigga
but he's right. Manny killed that team's chemistry.
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hey if porn star naomi never got cancer she wouldn't have been doing porn.....so i guess cancer isn't all that bad 8)
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hey if porn star naomi never got cancer she wouldn't have been doing porn.....so i guess cancer isn't all that bad 8)
what?? elaborate???
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god damn, get over it boston.
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god damn, get over it boston.
Dodger fans will probably do the same in a year or 2 when Manny gives up on you guys to, at least he brought titles to Boston, I doubt he will ever bring a title to LA. Yeah this was lame though, Paplebon is a attention whore to say the least
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papelbons a dirty whore for sure
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fuck that non sense... only cause he was like that at the end of that boston contract doesnt mean he was like that for those 2 championships...
things change... shit happens... get over it....
Manny=Shaq to me...
shaq will always be remembered for tearing shit up in LA and Manny will always be remembered for tearing shit up in boston...
everyone talked shit about each player leaving their city after they did.....(the "you wait and see...") talking shit....
Shaq goes out and proves everyone wrong after winning another championship...
i bet the same shit is going to happen with manny and the Dodgers.....
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god damn, get over it boston.
Uh they coulda won 3 world series if Manny being greedy hadn't went sprewell on somebody. Man I thought papelbon would get praise for speaking the truth. Oh I 4got, in MLB speaking the truth is a sin. They'd rather hear a darn lie than the truth :grumpy:. No wonder players even lie about steroid use.
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Francona does not seem pleased lol
He's being a company man. Can't have it both ways, do you wanna hear the truth or a lie? I hope the Red Sox don't fine or suspend Papelbon. The Red Sox are the same pathetic organization that banned 1 of their most loyal fans, Ben Affleck from being a guest on the team's announcing booth because he spoke the truth on a sorry player >:( Player cried about team wanting to send him to the minors cause he hit under .200 :o If you hit under .200 you need to get sent to the minors, no ifs ands or buts.
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god damn, get over it boston.
Uh they coulda won 3 world series if Manny being greedy hadn't went sprewell on somebody. Man I thought papelbon would get praise for speaking the truth. Oh I 4got, in MLB speaking the truth is a sin. They'd rather hear a darn lie than the truth :grumpy:. No wonder players even lie about steroid use.
so what? the new season is about to start and theyre still bitching about manny? shouldnt they be concerned with this season rather than the past? its been like 8 months since he was traded...time to move on.
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hey if porn star naomi never got cancer she wouldn't have been doing porn.....so i guess cancer isn't all that bad 8)
what?? elaborate???
i read some where that she use to be a school teacher, then she got cancer, and after she beat it she decided to become a porn star and "live it up"
depressing sad life for her....good for us though.
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Paps needs to shut the fuck up. If he was such a cancer maybe the pussy should of said something while Manny was in Boston instead of 6 months later. And the whole city of Boston needs to shut the fuck up concerning Manny. For years they said it was just Manny being Manny and the organization, media, and fans just enabled the entire Manny being Manny persona. Bill Simmons actually wrote an excellent article about this a few weeks after the trade. Whatever comes out of Boston concerning a non white ball player I don't believe. When the Mets signed Pedro they said he was this that the other. Yet he was the complete opposite. I can't wait for Boston to turn on Ortiz.
Bottom line is the Sox would still be searching for World Series had it not been for Manny. They are worse that NIK acting like the Lakers would of won those chips w/o Shaq.
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god damn, get over it boston.
Uh they coulda won 3 world series if Manny being greedy hadn't went sprewell on somebody. Man I thought papelbon would get praise for speaking the truth. Oh I 4got, in MLB speaking the truth is a sin. They'd rather hear a darn lie than the truth :grumpy:. No wonder players even lie about steroid use.
so what? the new season is about to start and theyre still bitching about manny? shouldnt they be concerned with this season rather than the past? its been like 8 months since he was traded...time to move on.
For real