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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: love33 on March 24, 2009, 05:10:27 PM
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I don't understand this guy. When you keep using the same formula over and over and over again and it doesn't work, it's time to change it up. He needs to change his style and quit pretending that it's 1995. This guy seriously thinks he is some 1990's west coast rapper who got trapped in the wrong era.
He needs to slow up his flow and change his content. I want to see him talk about big cars, extravagent vacations, prestigous homes, and luxury. One minute he's talking about being in the VIP then the next minute he's talking about all this violence.
Nobody wants to hear this violent stuff, that's yesterday's diapers. Music and people have evolved. Nobody wants to hear about how he can shoot up a studio, and how he slangs drugs, and how he is this tough guy from the streets who listens to 90's rap.
What he needs to do is take some notes and listen to Felli Fel "The Finer Things." This is the type of music he needs to be making. Felli Fel has more hits than Crooked.
It's all about making money. He could make tons of money and live the good life. Instead it's 2009 and he's still mentioning Suge Knight and all these 90's rappers every other song.
And he needs to learn that it's about SONG QUALITY not LYRICAL CONTENT. In the 90's it was about lyrics, NOT ANYMORE. It's about making a COMPLETE TRACK WITH BEATS AND A HOOK that people want to hear.
He thinks cause he's a dictionary rapper that people are going to want to hear this. People at the club don't want to hear him talk about all this shooting and mentioning all these 1990's cats who most people today don't even know who they are. People want to hear fun music. Doesn't he realize that rap has changed? Wouldn't he want to live the good life and make some money?
Start working with Bow Wow like Three Six Mafia did and he will score some hits. Work with Justin Timberlake.
Even 50 Cent makes tracks now that are about living the good life. Crooked needs to get with the program and look at a calendar -- it's 2009 not 1994.
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Well....
We can agree on one thing, I think it's not just about lyrics either. You have to have good production and hooks. As far as the violence, I don't care whether Crooked raps about violence or not. I don't think he raps about violence all the time anyway. You have to remember, he was just shot at the other day, so for him to rap about violence is kind of relevant to his situation. I'm not saying he's constantly in gun battles or anything ridiculous like that. But you have to figure that Long Beach is a place where off and on there is violence occurring.
As far as rapping about having it good, I'm not so sure how much that pertains to him right now. I don't think Crooked I lives an impoverished lifestyle or anything, but on the other hand, he hasn't put out his first album yet.
I'm not going to say there aren't changes that maybe Crooked I needs to make. Maybe there are business practices he could change for the better. I can't say for sure since I don't know everything about his situation. But artistically, I think he's on the right track. I think as long as he goes with topics that are relevant to him, he's good.
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(http://slumz.boxden.com/images/smilies/rolllaugh.gif)(http://slumz.boxden.com/images/smilies/rolllaugh.gif)(http://slumz.boxden.com/images/smilies/rolllaugh.gif) i dont know weather to take u serious or not
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I don't understand this guy. When you keep using the same formula over and over and over again and it doesn't work, it's time to change it up. He needs to change his style and quit pretending that it's 1995. This guy seriously thinks he is some 1990's west coast rapper who got trapped in the wrong era.
He needs to slow up his flow and change his content. I want to see him talk about big cars, extravagent vacations, prestigous homes, and luxury. One minute he's talking about being in the VIP then the next minute he's talking about all this violence.
Nobody wants to hear this violent stuff, that's yesterday's diapers. Music and people have evolved. Nobody wants to hear about how he can shoot up a studio, and how he slangs drugs, and how he is this tough guy from the streets who listens to 90's rap.
What he needs to do is take some notes and listen to Felli Fel "The Finer Things." This is the type of music he needs to be making. Felli Fel has more hits than Crooked.
It's all about making money. He could make tons of money and live the good life. Instead it's 2009 and he's still mentioning Suge Knight and all these 90's rappers every other song.
And he needs to learn that it's about SONG QUALITY not LYRICAL CONTENT. In the 90's it was about lyrics, NOT ANYMORE. It's about making a COMPLETE TRACK WITH BEATS AND A HOOK that people want to hear.
He thinks cause he's a dictionary rapper that people are going to want to hear this. People at the club don't want to hear him talk about all this shooting and mentioning all these 1990's cats who most people today don't even know who they are. People want to hear fun music. Doesn't he realize that rap has changed? Wouldn't he want to live the good life and make some money?
Start working with Bow Wow like Three Six Mafia did and he will score some hits. Work with Justin Timberlake.
Even 50 Cent makes tracks now that are about living the good life. Crooked needs to get with the program and look at a calendar -- it's 2009 not 1994.
A 15 Year Old Like You Has No Cred.... ;)
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(http://slumz.boxden.com/images/smilies/rolllaugh.gif)(http://slumz.boxden.com/images/smilies/rolllaugh.gif)(http://slumz.boxden.com/images/smilies/rolllaugh.gif) i dont know weather to take u serious or not
Me neither. I read this post several times through to try to decide if it was sarcasm or not. I decided to respond as though it wasn't, but I still kind of wonder.
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LOL jesus christtttttt
Slaughterhouse IS a different direction is it not?
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hahaha only on the internet
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LMAO I was feeling some of what this guy was saying, until he said he should be rapping about luxury. And work with Bow Wow and Justin TImberlake? GTFO of here. Now.
This guy does have one point. Crooked has one too many songs about gangs and violence. But he shouldn't switch it to talking about being rich. That's just as outdated. Crook needs to come with something new, something fresh.
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LMAO I was feeling some of what this guy was saying, until he said he should be rapping about luxury. And work with Bow Wow and Justin TImberlake? GTFO of here. Now.
This guy does have one point. Crooked has one too many songs about gangs and violence. But he shouldn't switch it to talking about being rich. That's just as outdated. Crook needs to come with something new, something fresh.
Crooked just does what he's used to
BUT he should make some more songs with lyrics like "Lick Shots" where he says deep shit (like the line about the Ancient Egyptians, that was ILL)
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has anyone every taken this cats posts seriously? what happened to all that free posting shit fools would do? i think its about that time
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Wow so this is where all those kids from the stage at Trl ended up
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I want to see him talk about big cars, extravagent vacations, prestigous homes, and luxury.
winner of shallowest post on dubcc
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LMAO @ This thread!
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this dudes lame, I can agree with switch the style, but not the content, look if thats what crooked does, then thats him, but this guy is a dumbA**! talk about luxury, that comes after the deal you dummy!
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this dudes lame, I can agree with switch the style, but not the content, look if thats what crooked does, then thats him, but this guy is a dumbA**! talk about luxury, that comes after the deal you dummy!
hahahaha the luxury condos or whatever that shit was hilarioussssss
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I don't understand this guy. When you keep using the same formula over and over and over again and it doesn't work, it's time to change it up. He needs to change his style and quit pretending that it's 1995. This guy seriously thinks he is some 1990's west coast rapper who got trapped in the wrong era.
He needs to slow up his flow and change his content. I want to see him talk about big cars, extravagent vacations, prestigous homes, and luxury. One minute he's talking about being in the VIP then the next minute he's talking about all this violence.
Nobody wants to hear this violent stuff, that's yesterday's diapers. Music and people have evolved. Nobody wants to hear about how he can shoot up a studio, and how he slangs drugs, and how he is this tough guy from the streets who listens to 90's rap.
What he needs to do is take some notes and listen to Felli Fel "The Finer Things." This is the type of music he needs to be making. Felli Fel has more hits than Crooked.
It's all about making money. He could make tons of money and live the good life. Instead it's 2009 and he's still mentioning Suge Knight and all these 90's rappers every other song.
And he needs to learn that it's about SONG QUALITY not LYRICAL CONTENT. In the 90's it was about lyrics, NOT ANYMORE. It's about making a COMPLETE TRACK WITH BEATS AND A HOOK that people want to hear.
He thinks cause he's a dictionary rapper that people are going to want to hear this. People at the club don't want to hear him talk about all this shooting and mentioning all these 1990's cats who most people today don't even know who they are. People want to hear fun music. Doesn't he realize that rap has changed? Wouldn't he want to live the good life and make some money?
Start working with Bow Wow like Three Six Mafia did and he will score some hits. Work with Justin Timberlake.
Even 50 Cent makes tracks now that are about living the good life. Crooked needs to get with the program and look at a calendar -- it's 2009 not 1994.
the reason he has so many fans is becasue he keeps it real. but homie needs release a real album, its like detox it aint comin
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LOL, This guy is saying that people don't want to play Crook's music in the club, maybe he hasn't thought out that maybe Crooked is targeting the club market.
This thread is comedy though.
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I want to see him talk about big cars, extravagent vacations, prestigous homes, and luxury.
winner of shallowest post on dubcc
I laughed my ass off when I read that sentence though.
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I want to see him talk about big cars, extravagent vacations, prestigous homes, and luxury.
winner of shallowest post on dubcc
I laughed my ass off when I read that sentence though.
Yea, he probably also wants Paris Hilton book about life struggle and section 8 living, etc
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LMAO I was feeling some of what this guy was saying, until he said he should be rapping about luxury. And work with Bow Wow and Justin TImberlake? GTFO of here. Now.
This guy does have one point. Crooked has one too many songs about gangs and violence. But he shouldn't switch it to talking about being rich. That's just as outdated. Crook needs to come with something new, something fresh.
Crooked just does what he's used to
yeah but my point is, shit is getting stale. He's rapping about the same thing every gangsta rapper during the 90s was doing.
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the only thing he needs to change is his flow
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has anyone every taken this cats posts seriously? what happened to all that free posting shit fools would do? i think its about that time
you know.... you are right...
FREE...
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Nobody wants to hear about how he can shoot up a studio, and how he slangs drugs, and how he is this tough guy from the streets who listens to 90's rap.
I guess imma nobody cuase Crooked I makes dope music,
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LMAO I was feeling some of what this guy was saying, until he said he should be rapping about luxury. And work with Bow Wow and Justin TImberlake? GTFO of here. Now.
This guy does have one point. Crooked has one too many songs about gangs and violence. But he shouldn't switch it to talking about being rich. That's just as outdated. Crook needs to come with something new, something fresh.
Crooked just does what he's used to
yeah but my point is, shit is getting stale. He's rapping about the same thing every gangsta rapper during the 90s was doing.
Hip Hop Weekly 37 > any other gangsta rap "song" ever wrote
that shit was on point every bar....shit was better than Boyz in the hood and thats hard to do.
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the only thing he needs to change is his flow
flow how do u mean flow my bro, dude has sick flow, he has tons of different flows, u head his SWAGGER LIKE US freestyle flow, sick shit.
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I think all the crooked i "fans" need to "change directions" and find some other artist to make threads about
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I want to see him talk about big cars, extravagent vacations, prestigous homes, and luxury.
winner of shallowest post on dubcc
I laughed my ass off when I read that sentence though.
Yea, he probably also wants Paris Hilton book about life struggle and section 8 living, etc
don´t front she´s hot...... :P :P :P
(http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2007/10/paris-hilton-and-larry-birkhead-playboy-mansion-halloween-2007.jpg)
Maybe if you like the barbie doll type.
On the topic:
Nobody wants to hear any violent stuff? What the fuck, since when?
Fuck this topic & starter, yup that sums it up.
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I think all the crooked i "fans" need to "change directions" and find some other artist to make threads about
Maybe. But I'm not even sure a Crooked I fan made this thread. It seems more like a thread from a Crooked I critic. I have to say this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever read though.
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Probably, but most people i see criticizing his work claim to be fans
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I mean
How can you not be somewhat of a crooked i fan?
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Whatever shes got left...i would fuck the brains out that stupid bitch LOL
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Probably, but most people i see criticizing his work claim to be fans
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I mean
How can you not be somewhat of a crooked i fan?
I see what you mean. And there probably are too many Crooked I threads (some like this one, are pointless). But you have to understand, it's not just because of his fans that Crooked I gets so many threads. Crooked I gets so many threads because he puts new music out every week. I listen to a lot of different hip hop artists (particularly west coast artists) but a lot of them aren't really doing much to warrant coverage.
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Uhh. Hip hop weekly was over awhile ago bud.
And i was talking about the abundance of negative crook threads.
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Uhh. Hip hop weekly was over awhile ago bud.
And i was talking about the abundance of negative crook threads.
I understand hip hop weeklies are over. I'm just saying look at things, "I'm Still an MC" and "If You Ever Hear Me" both dropped within a few days of each other. Look at all the Slaughterhouse tracks and how frequently they've been coming out. I didn't mean he literally put a song out, once a week. And as far as the negative Crook threads, I agree with you. I personally think this thread we're talking in is pointless. I'm really not trying to fight with you, I was just trying to make a point about the amount of exposure Crooked I gets.
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All exposure is not good exposure. I am not trying to start a argument either, i just always seem like i am ::)
And to be honest, crooked probably did fuck up. I mean - He generated SO much hype for himself within a short period of time and now is just kinda....fading away.
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All exposure is not good exposure. I am not trying to start a argument either, i just always seem like i am ::)
And to be honest, crooked probably did fuck up. I mean - He generated SO much hype for himself within a short period of time and now is just kinda....fading away.
short period of time? are you serious? he had hype since the late 90s thats pretty much 10 years.
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Crooked is fuckin wack
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after hearing say hi to the bad guy traks, it makes me want crook to go beserk like he did on those traks. lyrically he sounds amazing on those traks.
for production wise he should holla at big hutch (really want these 2 to work together asap), darren vegas, jim gettum.
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after hearing say hi to the bad guy traks, it makes me want crook to go beserk like he did on those traks. lyrically he sounds amazing on those traks.
for production wise he should holla at big hutch (really want these 2 to work together asap), darren vegas, jim gettum.
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which tracks?
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snoop told him that bout 3-4 years ago when he said he aint feelin his style n way he raps etc.... most of yall thought he was just hatin. but now fast forward 3-4 years later n nikkaz sayin it! so whats the deal!!!???
yea he do need 2 switch that shit up, he gets irritating at time just sounds like he tryna make words rhyme and puttin 2 many words in a bar etc just sound jumble n bundled up sumtime. but yea he str8 if u plan on listenin 1-2 songs at a time n then puttin him back in the cd case 4 a month.
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snoop told him that bout 3-4 years ago when he said he aint feelin his style n way he raps etc.... most of yall thought he was just hatin. but now fast forward 3-4 years later n nikkaz sayin it! so whats the deal!!!???
yea he do need 2 switch that shit up, he gets irritating at time just sounds like he tryna make words rhyme and puttin 2 many words in a bar etc just sound jumble n bundled up sumtime. but yea he str8 if u plan on listenin 1-2 songs at a time n then puttin him back in the cd case 4 a month.
yea some times it sounds jumbled up, but nethertheless still the best MC in the westcoast imo
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Maybe. But I'm not even sure a Crooked I fan made this thread. It seems more like a thread from a Crooked I critic. I have to say this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever read though.
I'm pretty sure it's the same dude who says that every fucking artist needs to make more club hits. Seems like all these wannabe A&R fans care more about a cat switching up and trying push platinum off some pop-tart shit than just putting out good music that capitalizes on what makes them unique. I don't need Crooked to try doing Lil Wayne kind of shit. If I wanted those kind of records, I'd buy them in the first place.
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snoop told him that bout 3-4 years ago when he said he aint feelin his style n way he raps etc.... most of yall thought he was just hatin. but now fast forward 3-4 years later n nikkaz sayin it! so whats the deal!!!???
yea he do need 2 switch that shit up, he gets irritating at time just sounds like he tryna make words rhyme and puttin 2 many words in a bar etc just sound jumble n bundled up sumtime. but yea he str8 if u plan on listenin 1-2 songs at a time n then puttin him back in the cd case 4 a month.
But Snoop went about it in a kind of questionable way. It wasn't like he was taking Crooked I to the side and trying to help him. He was making comments that could potentially bury him to people who maybe weren't familiar with him. He made a very public statement on the guy. There are people who might not even known who Crook was yet and their first time hearing his name might be in that Snoop interview so now, it's like they ain't even checking for him. Snoop has been in the game for way too long to act like he didn't know there'd be an negative effect on Crooked from that one. He also made it seem like he had love for dude but at the same time was burying him. It would have been one thing if he said, "I'm still not feeling Crooked I over that whole Death Row situation" because then people would know the context of where his comments are coming from.
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snoop told him that bout 3-4 years ago when he said he aint feelin his style n way he raps etc.... most of yall thought he was just hatin. but now fast forward 3-4 years later n nikkaz sayin it! so whats the deal!!!???
yea he do need 2 switch that shit up, he gets irritating at time just sounds like he tryna make words rhyme and puttin 2 many words in a bar etc just sound jumble n bundled up sumtime. but yea he str8 if u plan on listenin 1-2 songs at a time n then puttin him back in the cd case 4 a month.
But Snoop went about it in a kind of questionable way. It wasn't like he was taking Crooked I to the side and trying to help him. He was making comments that could potentially bury him to people who maybe weren't familiar with him. He made a very public statement on the guy. There are people who might not even known who Crook was yet and their first time hearing his name might be in that Snoop interview so now, it's like they ain't even checking for him. Snoop has been in the game for way too long to act like he didn't know there'd be an negative effect on Crooked from that one. He also made it seem like he had love for dude but at the same time was burying him. It would have been one thing if he said, "I'm still not feeling Crooked I over that whole Death Row situation" because then people would know the context of where his comments are coming from.
real talk! and if the OP is not feeling crooked's content, go listen to somebody else. thanks for your input though
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I have to add that Crooked should rock the shiny suits The Lox had back then at Bad Boy and shouldn't wear his Dodger hat so low, so future fans are able to see his beatiful brown eyes. Then dance a litte more and yell 'bling bling' instead of 'C.O.B'.