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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: mlk93 on March 26, 2009, 04:17:12 AM
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What's the best combo?
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Both are dope line-ups, but if you gave me the chance to hear a full, new album by either right now, I'd choose Slaughterhouse every time.
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slaughterhouse because kurupt was never in his prime for the horsemen
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Sounds like a battle to me?
Somebody call up Don King/Top Rank or Golden Boy to set this up.
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Slaughterhouse handz down!!!!
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I don't feel Horsemen album, so it's Slaughterhouse all day
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also Crooked I > anyone in the horsemen
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Slaughterhouse the successors to the 4 Horseman!
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4 Horsemen all the way. Crooked I is great, Royce is good, Joell and Joe are OK. Whereas Kurupt, Ras, Canibus are great, Killah is good.
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It's really tough for me actually...
To me Crooked and Royce are the ones that really make Slaughterhouse the super group, don't hate me people but Budden and Ortiz are the supporting characters.
Where as Kurupt, Ras Kass, Killah Priest and Canibus have all been acknowledged as deadly emcees on their own.
It's be a deadly battle, but I'd rather see a collabo. I highly doubt Budden or Ortiz could see even Canibus in a battle or Kurupt when he's in the zone.
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Both were dope. I think I'd have to go with Slaughterhouse, but it wouldn't necessarily be a blow out. Any time you put Rass Kass and Canibus on a song together, good shit happens.
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Both were dope. I think I'd have to go with Slaughterhouse, but it wouldn't necessarily be a blow out. Any time you put Rass Kass and Canibus on a song together, good shit happens.
That's what I'm saying it'd be really close, both crews would have to be on their A game cause one slip up and it's a wrap.
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Horseman were dope as hell. I like both groups. Gotta hear a bit more from SH so i can pick wich is better. damn that dude Ras Kass is one of the sickest ever.
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This would be a battle. 1999's 4 Horsemen vs. 2009's Slaughterhouse. I have to do the measure of the tape for this one.
OK, in 1999 you have the 4 Horsemen, Ras Kass, Kurupt of the Dogg Pound, Killah Priest of the Wu Tang and Canibus. Killah and Kurupt had been out in the public due to their groups, and were two of the best lyricist in the game. At the time, Ras Kass and Canibus were two hungry beast who had just came into the game, Canibus ripping throught legend LL Cool J and Ras Kass on the Dr. Dre produced track, Ghetto Fabulous. So mainstream wise the 4 Horsemen were standing strong. Now of course politics got in the way of the project, and even the guys careers, but lets say it didn't, what we would have are 4 hot lyricist, two in their prime and two vets putting down on hot album. Now because Kurupt was on the decline, and Killah was in Wu trauma, I'm not sure how much they'd put in, but you can bet the house that Canibus and Ras Kass would bring a flaming hell with them.
In 2009, you have Slaughterhouse, which this time is 4 disgruntled emcees, Royce Da 5'9, Crooked I, Joe Budden and Joel Ortiz. All 4 have their fan base, Royce and Crooked are known for being just beast on the mic, Budden and Ortiz are seen as solid emcees who just can't hit that mainstream, and the 4 want to take it out on a track. Slaughterhouse seems like it would be hungrier,and Royce and Crooked will finally get that chip off their shoulder.
In a battle, I think it would come to Crooked and Royce vs. Ras Kass and Canibus, and off this I am going with....
Slaughterhouse. It's not easy, but I just think that Crooked and Royce's experience will give Slaughterhouse that extra push that's needed to be a great group.
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Slaughterhouse aint no god damn game!
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This would be a battle. 1999's 4 Horsemen vs. 2009's Slaughterhouse. I have to do the measure of the tape for this one.
OK, in 1999 you have the 4 Horsemen, Ras Kass, Kurupt of the Dogg Pound, Killah Priest of the Wu Tang and Canibus. Killah and Kurupt had been out in the public due to their groups, and were two of the best lyricist in the game. At the time, Ras Kass and Canibus were two hungry beast who had just came into the game, Canibus ripping throught legend LL Cool J and Ras Kass on the Dr. Dre produced track, Ghetto Fabulous. So mainstream wise the 4 Horsemen were standing strong. Now of course politics got in the way of the project, and even the guys careers, but lets say it didn't, what we would have are 4 hot lyricist, two in their prime and two vets putting down on hot album. Now because Kurupt was on the decline, and Killah was in Wu trauma, I'm not sure how much they'd put in, but you can bet the house that Canibus and Ras Kass would bring a flaming hell with them.
In 2009, you have Slaughterhouse, which this time is 4 disgruntled emcees, Royce Da 5'9, Crooked I, Joe Budden and Joel Ortiz. All 4 have their fan base, Royce and Crooked are known for being just beast on the mic, Budden and Ortiz are seen as solid emcees who just can't hit that mainstream, and the 4 want to take it out on a track. Slaughterhouse seems like it would be hungrier,and Royce and Crooked will finally get that chip off their shoulder.
In a battle, I think it would come to Crooked and Royce vs. Ras Kass and Canibus, and off this I am going with....
Slaughterhouse. It's not easy, but I just think that Crooked and Royce's experience will give Slaughterhouse that extra push that's needed to be a great group.
Great analysis. +1 dude.
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canibus in 1999 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slaughterhouse
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i dont think heads give joell enough credit yo.....outta everyone in the group, his lyrics are the most sincere and real, i mean he really coming from the heart most times, it aint just sum braggadocios type shit, and for that i think he gets overlooked....crooked and royce always get more propz, and they deserve the shine they get no doubt, but to say joell is a supporting character? never that....he definitely more versatile than crooked *waits for the hate*....
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canibus in 1999 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slaughterhouse
Crooked I in 1999 > Canibus ever
and i'm a huge Bis fan.
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Actually I'd rather see Canibus, Ras Kass, Royce and Crooked
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canibus in 1999 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slaughterhouse
Crooked I in 1999 > Canibus ever
and i'm a huge Bis fan.
Nah id take canibus. Hes head a nicer flow. Crooked sounds to similar to me. And yer Ortiz is underated. In fact i think hes the most listenable out of all in Slaughterhouse. He spits from the heart like u said and he always kills his verse. Whereas the others are always talking about bustin guns or how great they are...
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Crooked shits over Ortiz and Bis
Bis's verses all sound the same--wannabee 1988 Rakim-is-on-the-microphone type of rhymes
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Crooked shits over Ortiz and Bis
Bis's verses all sound the same--wannabee 1988 Rakim-is-on-the-microphone type of rhymes
well ur a crooked stan so im not surprised
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Crooked shits over Ortiz and Bis
Bis's verses all sound the same--wannabee 1988 Rakim-is-on-the-microphone type of rhymes
well ur a crooked stan so im not surprised
very articulate response ::)
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Crooked shits over Ortiz and Bis
Bis's verses all sound the same--wannabee 1988 Rakim-is-on-the-microphone type of rhymes
well ur a crooked stan so im not surprised
very articulate response ::)
lol this is coming from the same guy that thinks crookeds none existent catalogue tops mobb deeps 90s work ::)
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Bis's verses all sound the same--wannabee 1988 Rakim-is-on-the-microphone type of rhymes
But you still like him though?
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fuk this is sooooo hard to choose from umm i love kurupt kurupt is illlllllllll and i love crooked so like those two ppl are the leaders i wud say and den i like ras kass more than royce so den its like horsemen but then buddens and canibus are tie cuz of buddens delivery and voice (i dont like canibus' voice) and priest plus ortiz are w.e in my opinion so from my analysis ima have to say slaughterhouse
although it wud be sick if the four horsemen got motivated by the slaughterhouse movement to get their shit together that wud be liveeee
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horsemen, but they need another chance...now with kurupt happy n sharp again...and..t.martin battlecat quik pete rock on the beats...
sh rappers are dope too.. ;D
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Crooked shits over Ortiz and Bis
Bis's verses all sound the same--wannabee 1988 Rakim-is-on-the-microphone type of rhymes
well ur a crooked stan so im not surprised
very articulate response ::)
lol this is coming from the same guy that thinks crookeds none existent catalogue tops mobb deeps 90s work ::)
if by non existant, you mean couple hundred songs on my hard drive, sure.
Havoc is an ill producer but as rappers mobb deep are both average to me. to compare them to Crooked I as rappers is like comparing Robert Horry to Charles Barkley because one has 0 rings....
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Slaughterhouse !!!
Crooked I
Joe Budden
Royce Da 5 9
Joel Ortiz >>
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Canibus >>>>>> Crooked I any time in his career
Kurupt In his prime >>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Ras Kass >>>>>>>>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Stop overrating this nigga. Spit a bunch of Multis and people act like your the end all be all of rap. He was a nobody in the Dogg Pound when Kurupt was in his prime yet now a good decade later and 0 albums in I gotta hear this nonsense like hes some sort of rap god. Dude has no material that puts him on the level as any of the big 3 of the Horsemen.
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Canibus >>>>>> Crooked I any time in his career
Kurupt In his prime >>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Ras Kass >>>>>>>>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Stop overrating this nigga. Spit a bunch of Multis and people act like your the end all be all of rap. He was a nobody in the Dogg Pound when Kurupt was in his prime yet now a good decade later and 0 albums in I gotta hear this nonsense like hes some sort of rap god. Dude has no material that puts him on the level as any of the big 3 of the Horsemen.
Deal is that Crooked been dope sice he started and never fell off.
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Canibus >>>>>> Crooked I any time in his career
Kurupt In his prime >>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Ras Kass >>>>>>>>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Stop overrating this nigga. Spit a bunch of Multis and people act like your the end all be all of rap. He was a nobody in the Dogg Pound when Kurupt was in his prime yet now a good decade later and 0 albums in I gotta hear this nonsense like hes some sort of rap god. Dude has no material that puts him on the level as any of the big 3 of the Horsemen.
i don´t know what the fuck are you smoking on but you´re fucked up right now-.-
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Canibus Why? Cause Crooked Can handle Beefs very well then canibus
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Kurupt Why? Are you fucking kidding, CROOKED WROTE FOR KURUPT @ THE DEATHROW DAYS
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Ras Kass Why? Crooked is Killin these wanna be mc´s in the cypa.
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Bottom Line they are both dope. They should team up and release a track called "Horhouse".
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nah, that sounds like Whorehouse ;D
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Ras Kass, Royce, Crooked and Kurupt(on his A game) would be the shit.
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Crooked I >>>>>>>> Canibus Why? Cause Crooked Can handle Beefs very well then canibus
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Kurupt Why? Are you fucking kidding, CROOKED WROTE FOR KURUPT @ THE DEATHROW DAYS
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Ras Kass Why? Crooked is Killin these wanna be mc´s in the cypa.
Crooked can handle beefs "very well than canibus"...bullshit, Canibus released good diss track towards LL...Crook released a diss track too. How is that better than with Canibus?
Crooked wrote for kurupt during death row days? Says who? His second dynasty rhymes were worse anyway than in the beginning of his career...how is that good look for Crook?
Ras Kass is a wannabe mc? Crooked kills him in a cypher....so what, Jin might be a good freestyler but that doesn't mean he is a good rapper.
Crooked I is good but you people make it seem like he is the next Rakim Allah. Sure he is a lyricist but unable to put out an album, another Papoose.
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Crooked I >>>>>>>> Canibus Why? Cause Crooked Can handle Beefs very well then canibus
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Kurupt Why? Are you fucking kidding, CROOKED WROTE FOR KURUPT @ THE DEATHROW DAYS
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Ras Kass Why? Crooked is Killin these wanna be mc´s in the cypa.
Crooked can handle beefs "very well than canibus"...bullshit, Canibus released good diss track towards LL...Crook released a diss track too. How is that better than with Canibus?
Crooked wrote for kurupt during death row days? Says who? His second dynasty rhymes were worse anyway than in the beginning of his career...how is that good look for Crook?
Ras Kass is a wannabe mc? Crooked kills him in a cypher....so what, Jin might be a good freestyler but that doesn't mean he is a good rapper.
Crooked I is good but you people make it seem like he is the next Rakim Allah. Sure he is a lyricist but unable to put out an album, another Papoose.
ahhhh anotha hiphop child,comon girl canibus fucked his carrer because he dissed ll in a fucked up way.
CROOKED SAID THAT HE WROTE KURUPT´S LYRICS AND KURUPT DIDN´T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT(and tha whole same day differnt shit album was ghost writin by anotha rapper so kurupt killed 2000 mc´s???? Crooked Killed 4000 mc!!!!!) ....SO IT HAS TO BE THE TRUTH. LOL @ you to bringin jin in here,serius jones killed his ass...
and you´re compares are childisch,cause CROOKED I IS CROOKED I NOT RAKIM OR FUCKIN PAPOSSE.
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You hommies make me laugh bt the truth of the matter is that if u r a real hip hop, you'll realise that Ras Kass and Crooked I would rip any crew member apart. I aint gon get into details bt u gotta recognised Ras as some1 that fucked up his career by bein an alcoholic n Crook did the same by signin tht deathrow contract. I urge u to compare each n every crew member to Ras n Crook n tell me wat u think. None of them stand a chance against these 2 niggaz. Even niggaz Ghana, South Africa, Botswana, Nigeria and Malawi that I know wil tel u tht canibus, kurupt, killa priest, joe budden, joel ortiz, royce d 59 can't touch ras or crook on the mic.
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Crooked I >>>>>>>> Canibus Why? Cause Crooked Can handle Beefs very well then canibus
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Kurupt Why? Are you fucking kidding, CROOKED WROTE FOR KURUPT @ THE DEATHROW DAYS
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Ras Kass Why? Crooked is Killin these wanna be mc´s in the cypa.
Crooked can handle beefs "very well than canibus"...bullshit, Canibus released good diss track towards LL...Crook released a diss track too. How is that better than with Canibus?
Crooked wrote for kurupt during death row days? Says who? His second dynasty rhymes were worse anyway than in the beginning of his career...how is that good look for Crook?
Ras Kass is a wannabe mc? Crooked kills him in a cypher....so what, Jin might be a good freestyler but that doesn't mean he is a good rapper.
Crooked I is good but you people make it seem like he is the next Rakim Allah. Sure he is a lyricist but unable to put out an album, another Papoose.
and you´re compares are childisch,cause CROOKED I IS CROOKED I NOT RAKIM OR FUCKIN PAPOSSE.
Watch in the mirror boy.
Crooked I is much like Papoose, never putting out an album.
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the crooked stanning on this forum is ridiculous. Some of them seem to think they gonna get some cut if crooked blows up lol
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4 HRSMN hands down.
Canibus didnt have to support that group all by himself. When I listen to slaughterhouse I find myself just waiting to hear Crooked I's verse.
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yeah ima say 4 horsemem wins
but slaughterhouse is dope
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Crooked I >>>>>>>> Canibus Why? Cause Crooked Can handle Beefs very well then canibus
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Kurupt Why? Are you fucking kidding, CROOKED WROTE FOR KURUPT @ THE DEATHROW DAYS
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Ras Kass Why? Crooked is Killin these wanna be mc´s in the cypa.
Crooked can handle beefs "very well than canibus"...bullshit, Canibus released good diss track towards LL...Crook released a diss track too. How is that better than with Canibus?
Crooked wrote for kurupt during death row days? Says who? His second dynasty rhymes were worse anyway than in the beginning of his career...how is that good look for Crook?
Ras Kass is a wannabe mc? Crooked kills him in a cypher....so what, Jin might be a good freestyler but that doesn't mean he is a good rapper.
Crooked I is good but you people make it seem like he is the next Rakim Allah. Sure he is a lyricist but unable to put out an album, another Papoose.
and you´re compares are childisch,cause CROOKED I IS CROOKED I NOT RAKIM OR FUCKIN PAPOSSE.
Watch in the mirror boy.
Crooked I is much like Papoose, never putting out an album.
lol i know that paposse haven´t drop an album and i know that you´re talkin about the album but indirectly you talkin about his skills,like he´s a mixtape rapper like papoose...i think the cold wetter in finnland fucked you´re head up.
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4 horsemen.
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Canibus >>>>>> Crooked I any time in his career
Kurupt In his prime >>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Ras Kass >>>>>>>>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Stop overrating this nigga. Spit a bunch of Multis and people act like your the end all be all of rap. He was a nobody in the Dogg Pound when Kurupt was in his prime yet now a good decade later and 0 albums in I gotta hear this nonsense like hes some sort of rap god. Dude has no material that puts him on the level as any of the big 3 of the Horsemen.
Crooked anytime > Kurupt anytime
and i LOVE Kurupt back then.
truth is, Crooked never needed a ghost writer in his career...Kurupt we cannot say that about. same with SNoop in his prime using DOC or taking a slick rick song
canibus got his all torn by LL Cool J and then his own manager Wyclef dissed him. and Eminem too. what a winner. i love Bis's music but he can't switch shit up like Crook, Bis is a 1 trick pony. Wanna-bee Rakim but too extra-terrestrial
rass kass over crooked? LOL lets not get carried away here
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4 horsemen DEFINATELY. I like slaughter house but horsmen fucking WAY better. Be realistic guys.
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Why diss Canibus just because your mind cant handle what he spits on the mic?
Canibus and Crooked I are both God emcee's
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damn canibus is mad underrated and hated
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looks like somebody was on hiphoputopia
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Canibus >>>>>> Crooked I any time in his career
Kurupt In his prime >>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Ras Kass >>>>>>>>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Stop overrating this nigga. Spit a bunch of Multis and people act like your the end all be all of rap. He was a nobody in the Dogg Pound when Kurupt was in his prime yet now a good decade later and 0 albums in I gotta hear this nonsense like hes some sort of rap god. Dude has no material that puts him on the level as any of the big 3 of the Horsemen.
i don´t know what the fuck are you smoking on but you´re fucked up right now-.-
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Canibus Why? Cause Crooked Can handle Beefs very well then canibus
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Kurupt Why? Are you fucking kidding, CROOKED WROTE FOR KURUPT @ THE DEATHROW DAYS
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Ras Kass Why? Crooked is Killin these wanna be mc´s in the cypa.
Really? Crooked wrote for Kurupt?
Kurupt was dropping shit before Crooked was even in the game, plus if you listen to Death Row Young Gotti, his sound is nothing like Crooked's. I mean, you can try to make this argument but the reality is Ras Kass 10 years ago is the equivalent to Crooked I now. He's a hungry mc with a lot of hype and a loyal fanbase, but little hope of any sort of mainstream success. So when we're talking about a "supergroup" in 2019 and we look back on Slaughterhouse, people will be wondering how Crooked got so goddamn mismanaged, just like Ras Kass.
And I'm a huge Crooked I fan
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Slaughterhouse for me.I like both but canibus is overrated he got boring real fast and just look at his albums.yeah he's good for a verse or two but then he's so monotone and boring with no subject variety.rass kass is the strongest of the group and is overlooked.he always drops heat.killah priest is solid but I've never been a big fan.kurupt is the most overrated emcee of all time.dude had a good few years over ten years ago and has been mediocre ever since.this forum is full of dpg groupies so I expect hate for that but facts are facts.he's just boring.how many times does he use the same boring I'm a gangsta youse a busta blah blah verse.crooked I is the best of all members and you have to be a hater if you can't see his raw skills.go listen to if you ever hear me and tell me dude isn't better then your favorite rapper.Royce is right up there with crook just listen to bar exam 1 and 2.Joe budden is really slept on he is a hate it or love it type guy but he is one of the deepest emcees to ever grace a mic.I would love to see kurupt put in half the honesty that budden has.joell is also slept on people need to go listen to 125 grams pt 1 to 4.4 horsemen have some good battle emcees but slaughterhouse has 4 well rounded emcees that can give you lyrics punchlines and make you feel your words.move remix is deeper then anything the horsemen could ever come up with.
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Canibus >>>>>> Crooked I any time in his career
Kurupt In his prime >>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Ras Kass >>>>>>>>>>>> Crooked I anytime in his career
Stop overrating this nigga. Spit a bunch of Multis and people act like your the end all be all of rap. He was a nobody in the Dogg Pound when Kurupt was in his prime yet now a good decade later and 0 albums in I gotta hear this nonsense like hes some sort of rap god. Dude has no material that puts him on the level as any of the big 3 of the Horsemen.
i don´t know what the fuck are you smoking on but you´re fucked up right now-.-
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Canibus Why? Cause Crooked Can handle Beefs very well then canibus
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Kurupt Why? Are you fucking kidding, CROOKED WROTE FOR KURUPT @ THE DEATHROW DAYS
Crooked I >>>>>>>> Ras Kass Why? Crooked is Killin these wanna be mc´s in the cypa.
Really? Crooked wrote for Kurupt?
Kurupt was dropping shit before Crooked was even in the game, plus if you listen to Death Row Young Gotti, his sound is nothing like Crooked's. I mean, you can try to make this argument but the reality is Ras Kass 10 years ago is the equivalent to Crooked I now. He's a hungry mc with a lot of hype and a loyal fanbase, but little hope of any sort of mainstream success. So when we're talking about a "supergroup" in 2019 and we look back on Slaughterhouse, people will be wondering how Crooked got so goddamn mismanaged, just like Ras Kass.
And I'm a huge Crooked I fan
kurupt was peaked by the time Crook started appearing on albums around 1998; same time that 4 horsemen formed
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I'ma go with Slaughter, cause I heard that Horsemen album and can't say that every song impressed me with the lyrics. Whereas, I can't see nothing but the best spit coming out of Slaughter everytime so far.
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Down with both, But since Horsemen are in hiatus it's all about SH.
Both crews open doors for people to listen to other MC's they might not have listened to other wise.
Example me with
Horsemen> Killah Preist (Maybe a bad example considering I have always followed W-tang & Affiliates, But defo my least fav HM.)
Slaughterhouse >Royce The 5'9