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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on March 27, 2009, 11:51:44 PM
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i just got my tax rebate and im trying to get a new pc. ive had this one for like 4 years..time for an upgrade.
i want something that...
-will be able to play games at a good rate (doesnt need to be supersized maxed out ultra high graphics) without stuttering, if it has an HDMI input even better, then i could connect it to my TV.
-has good memory (6GB or more if possible)...
-HD doesnt really matter, cause i could get a UBS HD..but 300GB or so would be nice...(im thinking about getting this 1TB HD for 100 bux at frys :D )
-good processor..needs to be able to handle a couple of process at a time...nothing major...but i wanna be able to do multiple things without worrying or noticing a difference (if possible).
also, i aint trying to spend a lot of cash...400-800 would probably be my limit...
so, would i be better off buying one, or hitting up newegg or some shit and building it myself? :bandit:
or is this not even possible with that type of budget?
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if you feel like doing it yourself, you could build a dope computer cheap with newegg
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if you feel like doing it yourself, you could build a dope computer cheap with newegg
i definitely wouldnt be against building it myself...would all that be possible with a 400-800 budget tho?
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easy. build yourself! for minimum hassle get a barebones system where you get a case with a motherboard already installed (sometimes power supply too). then you just gotta worry about the parts to go onto the motherboard - cpu and graphics card being the most important for gaming. 6gb of ram is silly, 4gb is far more than enough unless you are spending way way more on an obscenely powered machine. then you'd want an intel i7 quad core cpu and triple channel ram, which would also mean a very expensive motherboard and high costs all around.
connecting it to a hdtv you might be better off using vga over hdmi anyway. i use vga on my panasonic 32 inch and quality is amazing. way better than my friends philips 1080p set through a hdmi cable. depends on the tv make and model and more importantly if the native resolution is 1080p (1920 x 1080) or 'HD ready' (1368x768).
hit me up if you want any detailed advice on parts etc, just built a pc for some people in the past few weeks. processor wise you'd be best going for a fast dual core and getting the best possible graphics card the budget will allow. ati hd4850 would probably be the trick (got one myself) but you'd need to have an ample power supply for any half decent graphics card. i imagine an on-board motherboard sound device would suffice (they are real good these days) unless you have specific requirements for that.
peace.
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get a video card that does DVI and it'll connect fine to your HD tv, most come with a DVI connector already, if not a DVI->HDMI converter will be about $10
quad core CPU's are probably what you want, as for a motherboard I have a gigabyte ga-ep45-ds3r board running with 8Gb of ram no problems. what i recently built was;
intel q6600 quad core cpu
gigabyte ga-ep45-ds3r
8gb ram
nvidia geforce 8600gt
best of all, i have it running OSX instead of windows
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thats a beefy cpu, crazy amount of ram, but very mid-low end graphics card. i suppose a mac isn't really for intense gaming though...
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it's bullshit to buy quadcore imo, you better buy cheaper dualcore and spend more money on better GPU, that's what games need, get that new nvidia 200 series, I don't know how they are in US, but they are pretty cheap here
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spend 2 g's and get a professional or some1 that knows what hes doing to put it together, thats the best period. itll also be cheaper too thats if ur gonna buy one from a store wit similiar specifications.
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i work in PC World and priced a build vs retail and a build was more expensive than this set up i bought:
Intel Quad-Core Q6600 processor
3gb RAM
500GB HDD
nVidia 7100 integrated GPU
got all this for £340
and put a 4850 1GB card in.
just need 2 up the ram and it'll clock at 5.9 on that vista rating utility.
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i work in PC World and priced a build vs retail and a build was more expensive than this set up i bought:
Intel Quad-Core Q6600 processor
3gb RAM
500GB HDD
nVidia 7100 integrated GPU
got all this for £340
and put a 4850 1GB card in.
just need 2 up the ram and it'll clock at 5.9 on that vista rating utility.
wow, how many american dollars is that?
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i work in PC World and priced a build vs retail and a build was more expensive than this set up i bought:
Intel Quad-Core Q6600 processor
3gb RAM
500GB HDD
nVidia 7100 integrated GPU
got all this for £340
and put a 4850 1GB card in.
just need 2 up the ram and it'll clock at 5.9 on that vista rating utility.
wow, how many american dollars is that?
according to XE, $486
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spend 2 g's and get a professional or some1 that knows what hes doing to put it together, thats the best period. itll also be cheaper too thats if ur gonna buy one from a store wit similiar specifications.
two thou for a computer? the fuck? that thing better make a cup of coffee and do the dishes for that much
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he said 400-800 was the limit, which is still plenty for a really nice spec machine, especially closer to 800 and if no monitor is needed. saying to spend 2g's isn't very helpful or relevant. that's way too much unless your a really hardcore gamer or have very specific use for such an overpowered machine.
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spend 2 g's and get a professional or some1 that knows what hes doing to put it together, thats the best period. itll also be cheaper too thats if ur gonna buy one from a store wit similiar specifications.
FUCKING ASIANS
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i'm in the same rutt as you i don't know whether i should just buy an all new PC.
it's probably more economical to just build your own, but i'm not that computer savvy.
i don't play games so i don't need a bad ass graphics card but i definitely want to hook it up to my 52' Panasonic Viera plasma permanently.
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build from a barebones setup. the trickest part is attaching the motherboard to the case imo so that's already done for you.
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what do you guys suggest, in terms of hooking up to a 1080p 52' plasma?
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panasonic is most likely to give best performance through VGA - not HDMI. I have a Panasonic HDTV and use VGA from my PC (not a plasma tho). Few settings to tweak but the picture looks amazing. My friend has a 1080p Phillips set and uses a HDMI lead from his laptop. Looks completely crap. He thinks its automatically awesome cause its 1080p. Funny how some marketing slogan makes people oblivious to the reality of the actual image quality.
1080p over HDMI might be cool with a big plasma but i know that Panasonic's VGA socket implementation is head and shoulders above most brands.
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build one
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AMD Machine
AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103650)
ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 DDR3 AMD 790GX ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131366)
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801) - You can get 2, if you want..
Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134792) - Get 2
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148335)
ASUS Black 22X SATA DVD-RW (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135196)
COOLER MASTER 900WPower Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171033)
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119047)
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116493)
Intel System
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041)
ASUS P5Q3 LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131344)
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801) You can also get 2.
Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134792) - Get 2
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148335)
ASUS Black 22X SATA DVD-RW (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135196)
COOLER MASTER 900WPower Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171033)
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119047)
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116493)
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AMD Machine
AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103650)
ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 DDR3 AMD 790GX ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131366)
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801)
Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134792)
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148335)
ASUS Black 22X SATA DVD-RW (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135196)
you forgot a case ;D
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AMD Machine
AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103650)
ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 DDR3 AMD 790GX ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131366)
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801)
Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134792)
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148335)
ASUS Black 22X SATA DVD-RW (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135196)
you forgot a case ;D
i kept posting by acident
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& you don't need to pay for vista 8)
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& you don't need to pay for vista 8)
sure he does
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if u don't know how to build one urself don't fuck with it just buy one less head aches is the long run
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I don't think you would really save much money (if any at all) by building your own, unless you do it professionally and have great hookups on parts and are building a crazy machine. For the most part computers are cheap, and you can find great deals on them these days.
I bought my computer in December 07...I was contemplating just like you...I ended up buying a floor model at Best Buy:
Its an HP
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
3 gigs memory
500 gig hard drive
dvd burner
I don't know what the graphics card is...I don't play games
Also has a built in TV tuner, supposedly you can watch TV on it, but I never checked into how to do that (if anyone knows let me know)
Also came w/ Vista
Works great for me, only problem I have had is the dvd drive died after a year. Other than that it has been great. I got it for just over $300, and I added a 17" HD flatscreen off the floor for about $120 more.
BTW, why do people want to hook up your computer to your TV?
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it's a lot more better i think, plus with one swith i can go from posting here, to playing xbox, to watching tv.
plus if you have a theater system is sounds better when you're watching stuff on your computer.
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big b - the original poster said he wanted a pc that would be alright for games price range between 400-800. he didn't say put together the ideal pc and that price is no object.
i didn't do the math fully but it seems like to use the parts you listed would cost about DOUBLE his maximum budgeted amount. there was another poster who did exactly the same thing - ignored the original post entirely and acted out his own fantasies by saying build a monster pc. lol :laugh:
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with one swith i can go from posting here, to playing xbox, to watching tv.
haha
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big b - the original poster said he wanted a pc that would be alright for games price range between 400-800. he didn't say put together the ideal pc and that price is no object.
i didn't do the math fully but it seems like to use the parts you listed would cost about DOUBLE his maximum budgeted amount. there was another poster who did exactly the same thing - ignored the original post entirely and acted out his own fantasies by saying build a monster pc. lol :laugh:
i wanted to make a machine that would last him another 4 years
if i where to build a monster machine it would be $15,000
Intel- ~$1353 ($800 + $533)
AMD- ~$1238 ($800 + $438)
whats 50% between friends?
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I'm doing the same thing with my tax return. I think building is better than retail just because you get a clean os with no crap on it. I don't know about where you live, but we have tons of (mostly Asian) little stores that will build a computer for you. There's one that's just called "Computer" lol. I'll be getting the computer from this place http://a-power.com/home I've used them exclusively since like 2001.