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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: J-Dub562 on April 23, 2009, 03:39:20 PM
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Not really feeling is flow as usual. The beat is coo, but nothing special. Hope relapse is better than what we have heard (Crack a Bottle, We Made You, and 3 a.m.). Im not a fna of how EM is using these dumb ass accents/voices on his flows.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/590882988c34c69d/
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well if the album material is much better they're making some hella bad single choices. this track is straight garbage like the last single.
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I am feeling his flow! I am feeling the beat also! I think he just tested many flows on this beat and picked the best one that suited the beat.
after putting this track on repeat, it just got better and better. Have y'all checked those first 10 seconds. It's like a movie (directed by Dr.Dre).
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sounds like a cheap leftover beat to me. y'all got some low standards when it comes to production. dunno what dre is playing at, he gotta have some way better shit than this to give to his artists. even that snoop dogg millionaire track is better (minus the hook).
if you think this is cinematic, check out 'hey playa' or 'fuck y'all' from dj quik and kurupt 8)
or for something dre sounding, that new defari joint. shits on this rubbish.
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This forum is so weird.if this said produced by DJ quik everybody on this forum would declaring the best beat ever and that dre should take note.
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This forum is so weird.if this said produced by DJ quik everybody on this forum would declaring the best beat ever and that dre should take note.
Co-sign.
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This forum is so weird.if this said produced by DJ quik everybody on this forum would declaring the best beat ever and that dre should take note.
That's true. Quik has been far from impressive lately with Fixxers and Fuck Ya'll being the only decent beat from Blackout. But with that being said, this Dre beat is decent at best too.
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Just a curious question to see what everyones taste is. For all those hating on this track, beat etc. What is the last cd that you bought and really loved??? Not downloaded but bought??
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Matty usually has a sound opinion so i wouldn't limit him to a Quik stan or a Doc Dre hater.
I think the beat, the flow, and the lyrics are work together but I'm not shocked or WOWed by the song. It's okay. Kind of feels like a chapter in a book. I'm reminded of Budden's Padded Room.
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everybody is always trippen about Dre's beats.
Let him use his own style. The big question is "what kind of production beat did you expect than ?" Another remake of in da club, how we do, without me?????
Everybody knows this is impossible and every person can't stick on certain areas. Music evolves. Dre is changing and his music too. You cant expect to hear g-funk from him. Let him make his music. If you take a good look at the beat, you cannot compare this with quiks "hey playa". This is another song with another story.
It is the same if you say the movie casino is better than scarface. You feel me?
Production wise >>you can hear that the beat is mixed well. If some people don't feel this beat, than so be it. Everyone has his own taste. But to say that Dre fell of. Come on, you can't say that!
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Yes but why is it whenever a dre track comes out its always immediately compared to quik.you can't have a snoop or crook thread without the other being mentioned.
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everybody is always trippen about Dre's beats.
Let him use his own style. The big question is "what kind of production beat did you expect than ?" Another remake of in da club, how we do, without me?????
Everybody knows this is impossible and every person can't stick on certain areas. Music evolves. Dre is changing and his music too. You cant expect to hear g-funk from him. Let him make his music. If you take a good look at the beat, you cannot compare this with quiks "hey playa". This is another song with another story.
It is the same if you say the movie casino is better than scarface. You feel me?
Production wise >>you can hear that the beat is mixed well. If some people don't feel this beat, than so be it. Everyone has his own taste. But to say that Dre fell of. Come on, you can't say that!
Eminem produced Without Me.
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ok so maybe the quik comparison wasn't a good idea, but those who read my posts know the expectations on dre are based mainly on his own production in recent years. the quik comparison probably takes a bit too much contextualising for people to see it as anything other than 'quik dickriding' or 'dre hating'. as dre's sound is changing (drums being the main part of this), his productions have become increasingly hit and miss.
there have been some hits and i am quick to praise these tracks. for the most part though, it's been a miss, and one can't help but be increasingly frustrated by the lack of a-grade beats being put out by dre. if eminem can't even get a classic beat, there isn't much hope left. if anyone wants to contest this, we can get into a detailed discussion on dre's production in the last few years.
the production on this joint is extremely underwhelming - flat, hollow and stale sounding. to say it is impressively dark and cinematic is grasping at straws (why?) or just interscope cheerleading (very popular on this forum). dre has done better sounding beats with a similar vibe in the past. go back and bump 'murder dem murderers' then tell me this is better. that's just a leftover from over 2 years ago and i didn't think it was that great either, but it certainly serves to prove the point. shouldn't dre's productions be improving? anyone who says this sounds like a leftover beat is on the money.
i would argue that quik has been better than decent as of late and has even shown signs of putting a new twist on some of his older, classic sounds. no co-incidence he is working with some of the musicians from his best era again.
to the dude questioning music purchases, i haven't bought very much hip-hop music in the last few years (compared to the size of my overall collection) due to the extreme low quality output from the music industry. as the quality of music being put out lowers dramatically, i don't feel compelled to lower my own standards just to compensate. having said that, more recent purchases include:
ego trippin (cue laughter) not an amazing cd, but i generally cop snoop's albums so i supported it
guru jazzmatazz volume 4 - great, loved it
redman - red gone wild - bit older, but dope
i wanna get the latest epmd at some stage too.
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Well put matty.I'm just sick of the comparison and people all over quiks nuts all the time on this forum like he's the second coming of Jesus behind the boards.I agree I haven't boughten many albums as of late.Last one was ugk which was a great album.
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the beat is hot.. but whats up with the accent
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if you think this is cinematic, check out 'hey playa' or 'fuck y'all' from dj quik and kurupt
Those tracks aren't that amazing. But this does kind of suck.
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How does this stuff sell millions of records.........i will never understand....
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How does this stuff sell millions of records.........i will never understand....
Eminems white...
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So?cage is white.millkbone is white.everlast is white necro,ill bill shall I go on?none of them even push gold
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So?cage is white.millkbone is white.everlast is white necro,ill bill shall I go on?none of them even push gold
Ye but none of them are the same type of artist as eminem (rude/ kinda obscene/ attention seeking) im not being rascist and im not hating, he has made good music but u cant honestly tell me he doent get a pass for shit, see encore as the biggest example, 90% of rappers careers wud be dead after a shite album like that yet people still defend it and seek excuses, like 'We Made You' if 50 had released a song like that 99% of people would of hated it, said he sold out, blah blah and all that other bullshit, yet people say o its eminem, so its ok lets forget it
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Lots of mainstream artists get passes on bullshit albums and singles.snoop hasn't had a good album in like ten years and still gets passes.
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But he doesnt go and sell a mill like hes taking a piss like eminem does, im speaking off of personal expeience with the people i know, what i read and sales figures, the whole 'white' rapper thing gets milked like crazy and more people will listen to eminem because of that
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Just a curious question to see what everyone's taste is. For all those hating on this track, beat etc. What is the last cd that you bought and really loved??? Not downloaded but bought??
Answer: Prince - LOTUSFLOW3R
Em's flow is on point as usual. (His best quality)
he can flow to a beat just as good if not better than most.
at this point in both Marshall & Dre's career a beat is just a second.
by now the voice can be spit over a broken glass pane and still catch an audience.
The hook/song defo reminds me of a 50 cent joint rather than a typical Eminem song.
(Kinda reminds me of something 50 would have spit on GRODT, I wonder if Curtis had input on the hook?)
Defo a better song than the first 2 leaks off of Relapse.
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DRE.....WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR BEATS ON THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT?!?
BRING BACK SLIM SHADY!!!
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+1 for the track J-Dub. After listening to the track, I can't tell if I like it or not, yet. The beat is nice, but I kind of agree with you when it comes to Em doing the strange accents on these recent tracks. His lyrics are pretty dope. I think his delivery would be pretty good if he just dropped the goofy voices. But as it is, I found it a little distracting. I was having trouble following everything he was saying, mostly because of the voice he was using (at least I think that's what it was). Maybe after a few more listens I'll have a more complete opinion formed about the track.
For me, I still think it's a little premature to try to form an opinion about whether I'll like the album as a whole, or not. But I'll say this, so far I've not really been blown away by anything I've heard. I'm really not trying to be super-critical either. I'm not expecting something on par with the first two albums. Maybe just hoping for something better than his last one.
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DRE.....WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR BEATS ON THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT?!?
BRING BACK SLIM SHADY!!!
Dummy, this song is the SLim Shady character. lol
Dont you hear the psycotic lyrics? What the heck u listening to. EVen he sai this album is SLim Shady, not Marshal. MArshal be all that personal stuff. This is straig psycho stuff. Rad the lyrics and see how ill it is. Boy id dope with the skills.
There is no escaping
There’s no place to hide
You scream someone save me
But the don’t pay no mind…
Goodbye
-Verse 1-
Your walking down a horror corridor
It’s almost 4 in the mornin
And your in a NIGHTMARE
It’s horrible right theirs the cor-a-na
Waitin for you to turn the corner so he can corner ya You’re a cor-na he’s on ta ya
Out the corner of his cornia
He just saw ya run
All you want is to rest cuz you can’t run anymore ya done
All he wants is ta kill ya in front of an audience
While everybody is watching in the party applauding it
Here I sit while im caught up in deep thought again
Contemplating my next plot again
Swollowin the colatapin walnut and in and out on the Ramada inn holdin onto the pill bottle then
Lick my finger and swirl it round the bottom and make sure I got all of it
Wake up naked at McDonalds with
Blood all over me dead bodies behind the counter shit
guess I must have just blacked out again…not again
-Chorus-
It’s three A.M in the Mornin
Put my key in the door
With bodies layin all over the floor and
I don’t remember how they got there
But I guess I must have killed them… killed them
I said… (Repeat)
-Verse 2-
Sitting nude in my living room
It’s almost noon
I wonder what’s on the tube
Maybe they’ll show some boobs
surfin every channel until I find Hanna…
h Montana…(Read More)
then I reach for the aloe and lanelin
bust all over the wall panelin’ dismantlin’
every candle on top of the fireplace mantlin’
gra…
b my flantilin , my bandana then
kiss the naked manican man again
you could see him standing in my front window if you look in
I’m just a hooligan who’s used to using hallucinogen
Causin illusions again brain contusions again
Cutting and bruising the skin
Razors scissors and pins
Jesus when does it end
Phases that I go through
Dazed and im so confused
Days that I don’t’ know who
They be smiling(?) too(?)
Me what am I gon’ do
Pay the prodical son
The diabolical one
Very methodical when I slaughter them
-Chorus-
-Verse 3-
She puts the lotion in the bucket
It’s puts the lotion on the skin
Or else it gets the hose again
She puts the lotion in the bucket
It’s puts the lotion on the skin
Or else it gets the hose again
I duck and I slash slice and gash
Last night was a blast
I can’t quite remember when I had that much fun with a half-pint of the Jack my last vic and a half
A flashlight up Kim Kardashian's ass
I remember the first time I dismembered a family member
December I think it was I was havin drinks with my cousin
I wrapped him in Christmas lights
Pushed him into the stinkin tub
Cut him up into pieces
And just when I went to drink his blood
I thought I oughta drink his bathwater
That oughta be fun
That’s when my days as serial murder manslaughter begun
The sight of blood excites me
That might be an artery son
Your blood covered and screams just don’t seem to bother me none
It’s 3 A.M and here I come so you should probably run
A secret passage way around here man there’s got to be one
Oh no theirs probably none
He can scream all that he wants
Top of his lungs
But ain’t no stopping me from choppin him up up
-Chorus-
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I think the beat is hard....I'm not really feeling the concept of the track...but it is what it is.
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this song is trash
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the beats fire but once again eminem is so fucking overrated its not even funny he fucked up a crazy beat with his corny flow with that lame ass accent he rap with ...watch somebody will kill this beat on some mixtape shit
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Ok so this Dre beat is not a masterpiece but it's ok. First people whine that dre does the exact same drum patterns and now these just sucks?
I swear...if earlier Dre beats for Em were released now, people would say they sucked. Aren't you waiting for a lil bit too much?
I'm not feeling Eminems flows and judging by his interview where se said he was experiencing flows...don't see it good.
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accent is annoying but the lyrics are beastmode and so is the beat... at least it is better than We Made You and Crack a Bottle combined... all he needed to do was rap this and it would have been fireeeeeee!
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Just a curious question to see what everyones taste is. For all those hating on this track, beat etc. What is the last cd that you bought and really loved??? Not downloaded but bought??
deeper than rap. :laugh:
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This forum is so weird.if this said produced by DJ quik everybody on this forum would declaring the best beat ever and that dre should take note.
for real
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Just a curious question to see what everyones taste is. For all those hating on this track, beat etc. What is the last cd that you bought and really loved??? Not downloaded but bought??
deeper than rap. :laugh:
deeper then rapidshare
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i think for what it is it was executed extremely well, it just isnt something i have any interest in listening to.....this is ground he has covered before, a concept he has done to death and i personally am too old too listen to this kinda shit....but he is still very skilled and can get down, i just wish he would apply his talent towards something new and refreshing.....if this was 99' heads woulda declared this classic, but that was a decade ago its time to move on em
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This song is FUCKIN' W A C K
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yap..Dre should give this beat too Kurupt,and he can rhyme " itch on my ballz,cuz you bitch and bitch is aint nothing but ho's and tricks bitch" and this forum will blowin up like this is best shit ever...fuck off haters get a life!!
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we need another thread about this song on the sports section and on the g spot
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Not bad, weird though. Iam not likeing his chorous's too much in the songs i've heard.
He's definately capable of better.
I think the beat is decent, it dont sound like a hit record or anything though.
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props......
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thx the bet it's good i think it's the better beat from DRe better than the leak from detox or the 50 cent single it's just my opinion . And Em do just do what he do usually but he don't suprise me anymore that's all
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+1 for the track J-Dub. After listening to the track, I can't tell if I like it or not, yet. The beat is nice, but I kind of agree with you when it comes to Em doing the strange accents on these recent tracks. His lyrics are pretty dope. I think his delivery would be pretty good if he just dropped the goofy voices. But as it is, I found it a little distracting. I was having trouble following everything he was saying, mostly because of the voice he was using (at least I think that's what it was). Maybe after a few more listens I'll have a more complete opinion formed about the track.
For me, I still think it's a little premature to try to form an opinion about whether I'll like the album as a whole, or not. But I'll say this, so far I've not really been blown away by anything I've heard. I'm really not trying to be super-critical either. I'm not expecting something on par with the first two albums. Maybe just hoping for something better than his last one.
best post, this is how i feel. I am very excited to see that dre produced all but 1 track. how long has it been for dre fans to get a real rapper full produced??? doggystle!
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I'm not gonna try to over analyze the song, I'm not gonna try to make up suggestions to make the song better, and I'm not gonna compare it to anything else. I'll take it for what it is. And it's a cool song.
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better than the last single... but idk Eminem isnt himself anymore.
Wack.. if u compare it to MM LP
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Just a curious question to see what everyones taste is. For all those hating on this track, beat etc. What is the last cd that you bought and really loved??? Not downloaded but bought??
the new slim thug cd
that cd is album of the year so far.
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Not really feeling is flow as usual. The beat is coo, but nothing special. Hope relapse is better than what we have heard (Crack a Bottle, We Made You, and 3 a.m.). Im not a fna of how EM is using these dumb ass accents/voices on his flows.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/590882988c34c69d/
boy oh boy, Eminem is predictable :P :laugh:
also, i don't want to hear any more excuses from so called "fans".
well if the album material is much better they're making some hella bad single choices. this track is straight garbage like the last single.
but that's the thing, it's just promo talk.
you'd be lucky to get a few decent songs
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the production on this joint is extremely underwhelming - flat, hollow and stale sounding. to say it is impressively dark and cinematic is grasping at straws (why?) or just interscope cheerleading (very popular on this forum). dre has done better sounding beats with a similar vibe in the past. go back and bump 'murder dem murderers' then tell me this is better. that's just a leftover from over 2 years ago and i didn't think it was that great either, but it certainly serves to prove the point. shouldn't dre's productions be improving? anyone who says this sounds like a leftover beat is on the money.
on point!
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Just a curious question to see what everyones taste is. For all those hating on this track, beat etc. What is the last cd that you bought and really loved??? Not downloaded but bought??
the new slim thug cd
that cd is album of the year so far.
yezzir
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even that snoop dogg millionaire track is better
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Just a curious question to see what everyones taste is. For all those hating on this track, beat etc. What is the last cd that you bought and really loved??? Not downloaded but bought??
deeper than rap. :laugh:
deeper then rapidshare
+1 hilarious