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Title: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: teecee on April 25, 2009, 01:24:08 PM
Numerous people have mentioned that Michael Jordan would never allow the Chicago Bulls to lose a game like Thursday night's -- his team would never blow a 13-point third-quarter lead while Jordan made only five of 24 shots.

Bryant shook his head.

"One big difference," he said. "Michael had Scottie Pippen. He had someone who could distribute the ball and keep everyone else involved."

Bryant momentarily sighed.

"Michael could come out and shoot the ball 40 times a game," Bryant said. "I can't do that."

Again, he smiled.

"Having someone like Pippen would be a big luxury for me, because scoring is what I do best, but it's OK," he said. "It's a challenge, and I welcome the challenge."
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Wow. Just admit you had a bad game, and admit that Jordan would've left it all on the floor in game 6 last year................Kobe stays making excuses.  He has the most talented team in the league.  Like Barkley said, if Kobe can't lead his team to the title this year with the team he has, he is NEVER going to do it. 

Besides, we all know if Kobe shot 40+ a game, that = a Laker loss.  The less he shoots and the more he gets teammates involved, the more likely the Lake show wins.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 25, 2009, 03:02:46 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: LooN3y on April 25, 2009, 03:17:42 PM
http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm




seems like sasha and morrison goin at at it,

sasha > morrison
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: OchoCinco on April 25, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
o who the fuck care really.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 25, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
when MJ played the league was harder for guards


fact
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Mga223 on April 25, 2009, 05:27:09 PM
that is an excuse cause fisher is an absolute joke
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: 'EclipZe on April 25, 2009, 05:28:17 PM
Lakers won't win it.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on April 25, 2009, 05:49:52 PM
o who the fuck care really.
I know.  Let him be Kobe-esque.  Enuff of the next so & so.  Try to be the 1st so & so.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 25, 2009, 06:32:28 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 14, 2009, 08:49:00 AM
LOL...can anyone imagine how many titles Kobe would have right now if he had Pippen playing by his side this whole time? Not only was Pippen a great distributor, but was also the Bulls best defender and took pressure off of Jordan on the defensive end by always shutting down the opponents best player. teecee... when Kobe collects 3 titles within the next few years and LeBron collects 0 then will you still be talkin this shit?
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: eNgIeS on May 14, 2009, 10:26:01 AM
I think Kobe's a great player in his own merit, perhaps one of the most talented EVER to play the game

But he isn't on Jordan's level. Well, no one is, Lebron has a chance if his defense continues to improve & his shot continues to improve.

Kobe has maybe a more talented cast the last 2 seasons than MJ ever had, but i guess you could say his 2nd best player (Gasol) isn't as good as Pippen. But I think role players on a whole are individually better, its just the role players on the Bulls teams in the 90's clicked better.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: teecee on May 14, 2009, 11:52:26 AM
LOL...can anyone imagine how many titles Kobe would have right now if he had Pippen playing by his side this whole time? Not only was Pippen a great distributor, but was also the Bulls best defender and took pressure off of Jordan on the defensive end by always shutting down the opponents best player. teecee... when Kobe collects 3 titles within the next few years and LeBron collects 0 then will you still be talkin this shit?

I don't know if I was exactly talking shit.........

3 titles in the next few years?   
ZERO for Lebron?   How about this?  Lebron, by the end of his career, will have LEAD his team to more titles than Kobe will have lead his team to.  Lebron won't have a chance to ever play with the most dominant player in the game, but he WILL lead his team to more chips. 

You also said the Lakers would sweep the Cavs in the finals.  I'm just taking note of what you saying and not responding.   We'll see what happens; neither of us can predict the future, but I think the Lakers and Cavs, if they both make it, is gonna be a long series.

Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Antonio on May 14, 2009, 01:50:55 PM
LOL...can anyone imagine how many titles Kobe would have right now if he had Pippen playing by his side this whole time? Not only was Pippen a great distributor, but was also the Bulls best defender and took pressure off of Jordan on the defensive end by always shutting down the opponents best player. teecee... when Kobe collects 3 titles within the next few years and LeBron collects 0 then will you still be talkin this shit?

I don't know if I was exactly talking shit.........

3 titles in the next few years?   
ZERO for Lebron?   How about this?  Lebron, by the end of his career, will have LEAD his team to more titles than Kobe will have lead his team to.  Lebron won't have a chance to ever play with the most dominant player in the game, but he WILL lead his team to more chips. 

You also said the Lakers would sweep the Cavs in the finals.  I'm just taking note of what you saying and not responding.   We'll see what happens; neither of us can predict the future, but I think the Lakers and Cavs, if they both make it, is gonna be a long series.

You can't predict the future, but you did. LOL. How can you say that thing referring to Lebron? Who knows? Maybe he'll be the next Tracy McGrady. Who knows! Till now he's 0-1. Kobe too. Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 14, 2009, 04:40:32 PM
LOL...can anyone imagine how many titles Kobe would have right now if he had Pippen playing by his side this whole time? Not only was Pippen a great distributor, but was also the Bulls best defender and took pressure off of Jordan on the defensive end by always shutting down the opponents best player. teecee... when Kobe collects 3 titles within the next few years and LeBron collects 0 then will you still be talkin this shit?

1 tops
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Don Jacob on May 14, 2009, 05:06:04 PM
jordan lost games almost as embarrassing.

Orlando with shaq and penny. they almost lost in the first round to the charlotte hornets, they got pounded the first 2 games by utah during the last title. plus we conveniantly forget jordan's bulls got schooled by the pistons and celtics. so i mean it's not accurate to say that jordan would never have had a game like that.


it's like kobe said though, it doesn't matter if lose by 30 or win by 30 , every game brings a new energy." you got to win the series or be able to come back....and in that instance i see kobe being jordan-esque.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 14, 2009, 05:08:27 PM
jordan lost games almost as embarrassing.

Orlando with shaq and penny. they almost lost in the first round to the charlotte hornets, they got pounded the first 2 games by utah during the last title. plus we conveniantly forget jordan's bulls got schooled by the pistons and celtics. so i mean it's not accurate to say that jordan would never have had a game like that.


it's like kobe said though, it doesn't matter if lose by 30 or win by 30 , every game brings a new energy." you got to win the series or be able to come back....and in that instance i see kobe being jordan-esque.


find me an MJ playoff team in the 90s that lost by 30
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Don Jacob on May 14, 2009, 05:09:07 PM
jordan lost games almost as embarrassing.

Orlando with shaq and penny. they almost lost in the first round to the charlotte hornets, they got pounded the first 2 games by utah during the last title. plus we conveniantly forget jordan's bulls got schooled by the pistons and celtics. so i mean it's not accurate to say that jordan would never have had a game like that.


it's like kobe said though, it doesn't matter if lose by 30 or win by 30 , every game brings a new energy." you got to win the series or be able to come back....and in that instance i see kobe being jordan-esque.


find me an MJ playoff team in the 90s that lost by 30


why are you limiting it to the 90's  8)
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 14, 2009, 05:35:52 PM
jordan lost games almost as embarrassing.

Orlando with shaq and penny. they almost lost in the first round to the charlotte hornets, they got pounded the first 2 games by utah during the last title. plus we conveniantly forget jordan's bulls got schooled by the pistons and celtics. so i mean it's not accurate to say that jordan would never have had a game like that.


it's like kobe said though, it doesn't matter if lose by 30 or win by 30 , every game brings a new energy." you got to win the series or be able to come back....and in that instance i see kobe being jordan-esque.


find me an MJ playoff team in the 90s that lost by 30


why are you limiting it to the 90's  8)


because you can't compare Kobe at age 32 to a young MJ


Kobe needs to be compared to MJ at at 32...and he's failing miserably at living up to his hype - granted Kobe's still an amazing player yadda yadda 
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: herpes on May 14, 2009, 06:51:23 PM
jordan lost games almost as embarrassing.

Orlando with shaq and penny. they almost lost in the first round to the charlotte hornets, they got pounded the first 2 games by utah during the last title. plus we conveniantly forget jordan's bulls got schooled by the pistons and celtics. so i mean it's not accurate to say that jordan would never have had a game like that.


it's like kobe said though, it doesn't matter if lose by 30 or win by 30 , every game brings a new energy." you got to win the series or be able to come back....and in that instance i see kobe being jordan-esque.

The 94-95 playoffs Jordan had played what 19 regular season games.  And a lot of people were picking the Hornets to rep the East that year in the finals so do act like the Bulls struggled against them is a big surprise is funny.  And you bring up the Utah series, remind who won that series though ?  Anf you bring up the Pistons and Celtics.  OK a young Jordan with half the roster of Kobe against two of the best teams in the 80's... yeah fair comparison.  Stop copping pleas for the Rapey McRape
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 14, 2009, 06:59:15 PM
it's like kobe said though, it doesn't matter if lose by 30 or win by 30

First off, Kobe's fakeness is well documented...even amongst Laker media lol.

Second, when players give you the whole...."it doesnt matter if you lose by 30, or......" its SO full of shit lol. It definetely matters, they just try to hide the fact that it does. Save face i guess. I mean, a positive can come out of it. If the Lakers lost in Houston in a close game, chances are they wouldnt have come out and killed Houston in LA the way they did. Maybe gettin punched in the face was a wake up call for em. But dont give me that bullshit about margin of victory not mattering.  Ask Hatton if would have rather faught a close decision instead of getting demolished in 2 rounds.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 14, 2009, 07:55:58 PM

Kobe has maybe a more talented cast the last 2 seasons than MJ ever had


LMAO
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 14, 2009, 08:04:55 PM

Kobe has maybe a more talented cast the last 2 seasons than MJ ever had


LMAO

Yeah I dunno about that one either lol

But I do think this, MJ's teammates were nowhere near as good as they looked playing with Jordan.  Without Jordan, I dont see anyway Pippen would be a top 50 all time player. NO way lol
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 15, 2009, 01:05:43 AM

Kobe has maybe a more talented cast the last 2 seasons than MJ ever had


LMAO

Yeah I dunno about that one either lol

But I do think this, MJ's teammates were nowhere near as good as they looked playing with Jordan.  Without Jordan, I dont see anyway Pippen would be a top 50 all time player. NO way lol


ridiculous...Bulls beasted when Jordan left for baseball, and Pippen was a top player in the league at that time. A lot of people considered Pippen the 2nd best player in the league in the Bulls era.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 15, 2009, 01:09:45 AM
jordan lost games almost as embarrassing.

Orlando with shaq and penny. they almost lost in the first round to the charlotte hornets, they got pounded the first 2 games by utah during the last title. plus we conveniantly forget jordan's bulls got schooled by the pistons and celtics. so i mean it's not accurate to say that jordan would never have had a game like that.


it's like kobe said though, it doesn't matter if lose by 30 or win by 30 , every game brings a new energy." you got to win the series or be able to come back....and in that instance i see kobe being jordan-esque.


find me an MJ playoff team in the 90s that lost by 30


why are you limiting it to the 90's  8)


because you can't compare Kobe at age 32 to a young MJ


Kobe needs to be compared to MJ at at 32...and he's failing miserably at living up to his hype - granted Kobe's still an amazing player yadda yadda 


Jordan also didnt play on the 2nd youngest team in the league when he was in his 30s.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: teecee on May 15, 2009, 10:38:10 AM
LOL...can anyone imagine how many titles Kobe would have right now if he had Pippen playing by his side this whole time? Not only was Pippen a great distributor, but was also the Bulls best defender and took pressure off of Jordan on the defensive end by always shutting down the opponents best player. teecee... when Kobe collects 3 titles within the next few years and LeBron collects 0 then will you still be talkin this shit?

I don't know if I was exactly talking shit.........

3 titles in the next few years?   
ZERO for Lebron?   How about this?  Lebron, by the end of his career, will have LEAD his team to more titles than Kobe will have lead his team to.  Lebron won't have a chance to ever play with the most dominant player in the game, but he WILL lead his team to more chips. 

You also said the Lakers would sweep the Cavs in the finals.  I'm just taking note of what you saying and not responding.   We'll see what happens; neither of us can predict the future, but I think the Lakers and Cavs, if they both make it, is gonna be a long series.

You can't predict the future, but you did. LOL. How can you say that thing referring to Lebron? Who knows? Maybe he'll be the next Tracy McGrady. Who knows! Till now he's 0-1. Kobe too. Let's wait and see.

How is Lebron ever gonna be the next T-Mac?  He has already, at 24, shown ALOT of leadership, has gotten PAST THE FIRST ROUND, etc.  Stupid comparison
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Antonio on May 15, 2009, 02:38:50 PM

Kobe has maybe a more talented cast the last 2 seasons than MJ ever had

LMAO

Jordan was the best player in the league.
Pippen was the 2nd best player in the league.
And Rodman was the best pound-for-pound rebounder ever.

Are you really comparing Pippen to Odom and Rodman to Bynum or Gasol? Are you saying the Lakers are better? Shit, even Ron Harper was way better than Derek Fisher..... and Kukoc was way better than Vujacic...

C'mon..
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: Antonio on May 15, 2009, 02:41:28 PM
LOL...can anyone imagine how many titles Kobe would have right now if he had Pippen playing by his side this whole time? Not only was Pippen a great distributor, but was also the Bulls best defender and took pressure off of Jordan on the defensive end by always shutting down the opponents best player. teecee... when Kobe collects 3 titles within the next few years and LeBron collects 0 then will you still be talkin this shit?

I don't know if I was exactly talking shit.........

3 titles in the next few years?   
ZERO for Lebron?   How about this?  Lebron, by the end of his career, will have LEAD his team to more titles than Kobe will have lead his team to.  Lebron won't have a chance to ever play with the most dominant player in the game, but he WILL lead his team to more chips. 

You also said the Lakers would sweep the Cavs in the finals.  I'm just taking note of what you saying and not responding.   We'll see what happens; neither of us can predict the future, but I think the Lakers and Cavs, if they both make it, is gonna be a long series.

You can't predict the future, but you did. LOL. How can you say that thing referring to Lebron? Who knows? Maybe he'll be the next Tracy McGrady. Who knows! Till now he's 0-1. Kobe too. Let's wait and see.

How is Lebron ever gonna be the next T-Mac?  He has already, at 24, shown ALOT of leadership, has gotten PAST THE FIRST ROUND, etc.  Stupid comparison

Yeah. I was provoking you. :)

Anyway i meant LeBron could end up his career having no rings won. And Kobe could be about to win his 4th title in 6 nba finals. With a team full of potential. And he can even win more, after this one. Let's wait till they both retire to judge them.
Title: Re: Kobe making excuses of why isn't quite Jordan-esque.....
Post by: dexter on May 18, 2009, 11:01:50 AM
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