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Rock is Black Music, Too
Hip-hop has run out of ideas. And if you need proof, consider that Lil Wayne’s doing a rock album.
By: Rob Fields | Posted: April 21, 2009 at 6:49 AM
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Hip-hop has run out of ideas. And if you need proof, consider that Lil Wayne’s doing a rock album.
<p>Hip-hop has run out of ideas. And if you need proof, consider that Lil Wayne’s doing a rock album.</p>
04/21/2009 06:49
Know what the problem is with black folks? No imagination.
Sounds crazy, I know, but consider black music.Every significant moment in America’s history has been accompanied by its own soundtrack. And black musicians have often written the music and the lyrics. But what’s our soundtrack now?
The music industry has imposed the same low expectations on black artists and black life that politicians and pundits have imposed on black folks with respect to education, business and simply managing our daily lives. And we’ve let it happen.
The blues and jazz gave meaning to our lives in the 20th century, and it still enjoys a fringe following. But it doesn't fit this new age. R&B is formulaic and predictable. And hip-hop? In its commercial form—the stuff that hammers us from radio and video outlets—has painted itself and its fans into a corner, boxed in on all sides by what Brown professor Tricia Rose calls the pimp-gangsta-ho triumvirate.
Essentially, we've let a small group of hip-hop "artists" of limited experiences, education and vision set our cultural agenda. In this age of expanded possibilities, it is time to broaden our musical influences. Hip-hop is out of ideas. If you need convincing, consider this: The best-selling rapper of 2008—Lil Wayne—is doing a rock album. Yes, a rock album.
It’s time to give black rock another look. From artists as diverse as TV on the Radio, Shingai Shoniwa of The Noisettes, Gnarls Barkley, Santigold and The Family Stand, to performers at the recent South by Southwest Music Festival like Ben Harper, Whole Wheat Bread, BLK JKS, Janelle Monae and Ebony Bones, black rockers take to heart the idea that our imagination and creativity are boundless.
Take, for instance, Grammy winner Janelle Monae. She created a dystopian landscape in her album Metropolis: The Chase Suite, that is part Blade Runner, part Fritz Lang's Metropolis. It's a radical, yet accessible, departure from the “keep it real” orthodoxy that pervades most of what's on black radio's playlist. And having seen hundreds of fans flock to her Central Park SummerStage show in NYC last summer, I wasn't the only one who saw her bring something refreshing and exciting to music. The tagline on the signs that many fans waved underscored a simple truth: “Imagination Inspires Nations.”
Black rock artists have gotten past the fear that prevents many of us from fully following our interests, even when those interests aren't seen as "traditionally" black. "I grew up listening to Joy Division, New Order, Echo & the Bunnymen, the Cure…." says TV on the Radio's Kyp Malone. "I simply identified with something in the [white rock] music.” He took that music as inspiration and, along with his bandmates, created Dear Science, the sharp, angry and euphoric genre-mashing album that Rolling Stone and SPIN unanimously named their 2008 album of the year. It was also one of the blackest albums I've heard.
Black rock can change lives. It changed mine. In the 1980s, I was a regular, middle-class kid from the Midwest, who started listening to Top 40 radio in eighth grade as a reaction to the repetitive playlists and limited subject matter on black radio. Top 40 radio introduced me to artists like Journey ("Who's Cryin' Now") and Styx ("The Best of Times"), who moved me with their melancholy and soaring guitar solos. AC/DC's "Back in Black" gripped me with its signature opening riff. And I found it impossible to ignore the incredible songwriting and storytelling that went into The Eagles' "Hotel California." For me, rock was simply more creative and raw than the slick, synthy sounds on black radio. It still is.
To reclaim our place as musical innovators, we need music that's up to the task. We need artists who have the courage to explore new sounds and ideas. But there's no way today's artists can do that if their grasp of music history only extends to the latest ‘80s record Diddy sampled.
Just as Stevie Wonder counted Joni Mitchell and her experimental chord structures as one of his big music influences, Beyoncé now credits Etta James and the roots of rock 'n roll for helping her to find more expansive ways to be herself.
The Black Rock Coalition's manifesto says, "Rock is black music, and we are its heirs." These times call for substance, not swagger. Rock, America's subversive, anarchic, rebellious gift to the world, is ours, and we need to stop treating it like some bad four-letter word.
Rob Fields writes about black rock and the evolving black imagination on his blog, boldaslove.us.
Also on The Root:
Terence Samuel tells WHY THE DEMS CAN'T COUNT ON SPECTER. Kai Wright looks for the BULLY IN THE PULPIT.
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http://www.theroot.com/views/rock-black-music-too?Gt1=38002
Rock is Black Music, Too
Hip-hop has run out of ideas. And if you need proof, consider that Lil Wayne’s doing a rock album.
By: Rob Fields | Posted: April 21, 2009 at 6:49 AM
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Hip-hop has run out of ideas. And if you need proof, consider that Lil Wayne’s doing a rock album.
lottie.joiner
Hip-hop has run out of ideas. And if you need proof, consider that Lil Wayne’s doing a rock album.
<p>Hip-hop has run out of ideas. And if you need proof, consider that Lil Wayne’s doing a rock album.</p>
04/21/2009 06:49
Know what the problem is with black folks? No imagination.
Sounds crazy, I know, but consider black music.Every significant moment in America’s history has been accompanied by its own soundtrack. And black musicians have often written the music and the lyrics. But what’s our soundtrack now?
The music industry has imposed the same low expectations on black artists and black life that politicians and pundits have imposed on black folks with respect to education, business and simply managing our daily lives. And we’ve let it happen.
The blues and jazz gave meaning to our lives in the 20th century, and it still enjoys a fringe following. But it doesn't fit this new age. R&B is formulaic and predictable. And hip-hop? In its commercial form—the stuff that hammers us from radio and video outlets—has painted itself and its fans into a corner, boxed in on all sides by what Brown professor Tricia Rose calls the pimp-gangsta-ho triumvirate.
Essentially, we've let a small group of hip-hop "artists" of limited experiences, education and vision set our cultural agenda. In this age of expanded possibilities, it is time to broaden our musical influences. Hip-hop is out of ideas. If you need convincing, consider this: The best-selling rapper of 2008—Lil Wayne—is doing a rock album. Yes, a rock album.
It’s time to give black rock another look. From artists as diverse as TV on the Radio, Shingai Shoniwa of The Noisettes, Gnarls Barkley, Santigold and The Family Stand, to performers at the recent South by Southwest Music Festival like Ben Harper, Whole Wheat Bread, BLK JKS, Janelle Monae and Ebony Bones, black rockers take to heart the idea that our imagination and creativity are boundless.
Take, for instance, Grammy winner Janelle Monae. She created a dystopian landscape in her album Metropolis: The Chase Suite, that is part Blade Runner, part Fritz Lang's Metropolis. It's a radical, yet accessible, departure from the “keep it real” orthodoxy that pervades most of what's on black radio's playlist. And having seen hundreds of fans flock to her Central Park SummerStage show in NYC last summer, I wasn't the only one who saw her bring something refreshing and exciting to music. The tagline on the signs that many fans waved underscored a simple truth: “Imagination Inspires Nations.”
Black rock artists have gotten past the fear that prevents many of us from fully following our interests, even when those interests aren't seen as "traditionally" black. "I grew up listening to Joy Division, New Order, Echo & the Bunnymen, the Cure…." says TV on the Radio's Kyp Malone. "I simply identified with something in the [white rock] music.” He took that music as inspiration and, along with his bandmates, created Dear Science, the sharp, angry and euphoric genre-mashing album that Rolling Stone and SPIN unanimously named their 2008 album of the year. It was also one of the blackest albums I've heard.
Black rock can change lives. It changed mine. In the 1980s, I was a regular, middle-class kid from the Midwest, who started listening to Top 40 radio in eighth grade as a reaction to the repetitive playlists and limited subject matter on black radio. Top 40 radio introduced me to artists like Journey ("Who's Cryin' Now") and Styx ("The Best of Times"), who moved me with their melancholy and soaring guitar solos. AC/DC's "Back in Black" gripped me with its signature opening riff. And I found it impossible to ignore the incredible songwriting and storytelling that went into The Eagles' "Hotel California." For me, rock was simply more creative and raw than the slick, synthy sounds on black radio. It still is.
To reclaim our place as musical innovators, we need music that's up to the task. We need artists who have the courage to explore new sounds and ideas. But there's no way today's artists can do that if their grasp of music history only extends to the latest ‘80s record Diddy sampled.
Just as Stevie Wonder counted Joni Mitchell and her experimental chord structures as one of his big music influences, Beyoncé now credits Etta James and the roots of rock 'n roll for helping her to find more expansive ways to be herself.
The Black Rock Coalition's manifesto says, "Rock is black music, and we are its heirs." These times call for substance, not swagger. Rock, America's subversive, anarchic, rebellious gift to the world, is ours, and we need to stop treating it like some bad four-letter word.
Rob Fields writes about black rock and the evolving black imagination on his blog, boldaslove.us.
Also on The Root:
Terence Samuel tells WHY THE DEMS CAN'T COUNT ON SPECTER. Kai Wright looks for the BULLY IN THE PULPIT.
Lolz He's using Lil Wayne as a example. Southern rap = shit to begin with, let them invade rock, it wouldn't even phase em. Body Count! (Ice T's band) 4 LIFE! lol
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Southern COMMERCIAL Rap is bullshit but not Southern Rap in general^^^. But I agree with wat the poster put. Shit, I've been saying that... but me personally I love all of hip hop, whether it's sweet-tart hip hop or roaches in the wall rap. It's been time to move on but you have to remember, just bcuz there's a few intelligent people on the internet doesn't mean that tha MASSES will follow, not everybody has access to the world wide web. i know a couple niggaz up Baltimore who've never touched a computer... real talk. but as far as the future of hip hop goes, it'll always have a future- just one that may not always be comfortable with it's "before" fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNPCsr7vw3w&feature=related
And Lil' Wayne has BEEN the shit- stop exercising your right to free speech... alotta u niggaz look like haters////real talk
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that is an interesting point.
i think i have to agree to a degree with "hip hop has run out of ideas".
there are a few creative & new things (autotune) done by rappers, but generally most sound the same.
but the real good ones have a sound of there own & it just doesnt get old. 8)
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maybe in america but in the UK and London there's lots of new genres being created by black artists. Most are derived from electronic music and jugle but stuff like Funky House, Dubstep and Grime are all pretty innvotive imo. The music in the UK charts at the moment tends to rip off the 80s a bit but with modern influences like hip hop new sounds are being created which work really well. I agree that American hip hop and mainstream rnb has become very formulaic thanks to pressure from record labels to sell. At the end of the day people will get bored and force music labels to switch it up...
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...and the rest of the civilized world just shakes it's collective head and goes back to whatever they were doing.
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honestly right now.. the kings of the game are believe it or not are PITBULL and FLO RIDA, AKON, T PAIN with all t he mainstream party shit... im waiting for JERKN to blow up.. but those artist make great party/uptempo music which is what the mainstream or radio music is all about now.. 'til slaughterhouse blows up and makes lyrics listenable again in the mainstream i don't see a possible reformation coming in the too near future.
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One factor that I think should of been mentioned in this article....
-blacks are no longer America's favorite "underdog" so to the speak. Rappers used to be like the ultimate underdogs who came from nothing and overcame the odds to achieve greatness. Now black people aren't really viewed as the underdog anymore. Most obvious example of this is we now have a black man in the white house. This would of never seemed possible in the 90's.
-Economically, blacks are no longer viewed as being the most impoverished people. Whites typically think of blacks as having as much or more than them; that's the new perception that's out there. Blacks aren't really seen as living in great want or need much more than whites. I know statistically blacks are still poorer than whites but I'm talking about the general perception.
-The struggle is not really there anymore. Black people used to be America's favorite victim. But now the perception is starting to change, whereas whites are starting to percieve blacks as benefiting from the society and gaining the advantage and upper-hand over them.
-Gangsta Rap can not be successful like it was in the 90's because of lot of the shock value fed off of white fear of blacks. Since whites no longer fear blacks, and blacks are no longer alienated from whites, the shock value is gone.
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One factor that I think should of been mentioned in this article....
-blacks are no longer America's favorite "underdog" so to the speak. Rappers used to be like the ultimate underdogs who came from nothing and overcame the odds to achieve greatness. Now black people aren't really viewed as the underdog anymore. Most obvious example of this is we now have a black man in the white house. This would of never seemed possible in the 90's.
-Economically, blacks are no longer viewed as being the most impoverished people. Whites typically think of blacks as having as much or more than them; that's the new perception that's out there. Blacks aren't really seen as living in great want or need much more than whites. I know statistically blacks are still poorer than whites but I'm talking about the general perception.
-The struggle is not really there anymore. Black people used to be America's favorite victim. But now the perception is starting to change, whereas whites are starting to percieve blacks as benefiting from the society and gaining the advantage and upper-hand over them.
-Gangsta Rap can not be successful like it was in the 90's because of lot of the shock value fed off of white fear of blacks. Since whites no longer fear blacks, and blacks are no longer alienated from whites, the shock value is gone.
i understand what you meant by "perception" but wat world do u live in?? lol Obama aint THAT big in the hood (everywhere) there's still ALOT of niggaz who could care less. i hate when people say dum shit like what you just wrote... i COMPLETLY disagree with all of your points you just tried 2 make (with evidence besides stats)... we ARE STILL everything opposite of what you just wrote, the only thing that was true was the shock value of gangsta rap being dead... i guess u havent been in the projects as of lately or you've been trying to stay away from it for tha longest
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^^Yeah u mad.
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^^Yeah u mad.
i have to keep calm b4 i 4get im dealin with a buncha white boys like yourself. Black people dont call skate boarding dead bcuz we dont skateboard like yall do... and letme not 4get im on dubcc, there's alotta balona on here
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thats some crazy ass comment LMFAO! :laugh:
"Obama isnt that big in the hood." :o
Obama got like 90+% of the black vote for just one reason & it wasnt because they liked his policies lmao.
i think Infinite really summed it all up & was on point. ;)
but like i said, there are still rappers who put out amazing music that keep it so real, but have a sound of their own. 8)
i think another big thing is that rappers use to rap to get out of the hood & had real stories from the hood to spit about; i would say more than half of the rappers today arent even from the "hood" or a bad hood, like how it was & where the Pac's, Biggie's & Snoop's grew up, way back in the day.
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thats some crazy ass comment LMFAO! :laugh:
"Obama isnt that big in the hood." :o
Obama got like 90+% of the black vote for just one reason & it wasnt because they liked his policies lmao.
i think Infinite really summed it all up & was on point. ;)
but like i said, there are still rappers who put out amazing music that keep it so real, but have a sound of their own. 8)
i think another big thing is that rappers use to rap to get out of the hood & had real stories from the hood to spit about; i would say more than half of the rappers today arent even from the "hood" or a bad hood, like how it was & where the Pac's, Biggie's & Snoop's grew up, way back in the day.
its just as bad in this day. just less blantant racist... the white folks r still scared lol. but dont let Obama & MTV confuse the facts.... reality
and of course O got 100% he's black
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thats some crazy ass comment LMFAO! :laugh:
"Obama isnt that big in the hood." :o
Obama got like 90+% of the black vote for just one reason & it wasnt because they liked his policies lmao.
i think Infinite really summed it all up & was on point. ;)
but like i said, there are still rappers who put out amazing music that keep it so real, but have a sound of their own. 8)
i think another big thing is that rappers use to rap to get out of the hood & had real stories from the hood to spit about; i would say more than half of the rappers today arent even from the "hood" or a bad hood, like how it was & where the Pac's, Biggie's & Snoop's grew up, way back in the day.
its just as bad in this day. just less blantant racist... the white folks r still scared lol. but dont let Obama & MTV confuse the facts.... reality
where did i say that there arent still hoods that are bad? :stupid:
i said most rappers from today arent from those hoods, but from ones that arent as bad & just rap because they want to be a success & do it as an occupation, not because they have to, to get out.
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Also alot of dope MC's that have new and innovative music and ideas, no one wants to listen to or buy their music. Sad to say but it is true.
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thats some crazy ass comment LMFAO! :laugh:
"Obama isnt that big in the hood." :o
Obama got like 90+% of the black vote for just one reason & it wasnt because they liked his policies lmao.
i think Infinite really summed it all up & was on point. ;)
but like i said, there are still rappers who put out amazing music that keep it so real, but have a sound of their own. 8)
i think another big thing is that rappers use to rap to get out of the hood & had real stories from the hood to spit about; i would say more than half of the rappers today arent even from the "hood" or a bad hood, like how it was & where the Pac's, Biggie's & Snoop's grew up, way back in the day.
its just as bad in this day. just less blantant racist... the white folks r still scared lol. but dont let Obama & MTV confuse the facts.... reality
and of course O got 100% he's black
you're talking to a board full of whiteboys. ask if they are scared of black people. (ridiculous claim anyway)
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Music isn't dead or lacking inspiration. Hip-hop isn't either. Just cause you're an old fat who's heard everything done before doesn't mean it's lacking. There was an old fart before you that thought that too. It's just a symptom of getting old - thinking everything is played out and exhausted to death.
This argument is old.
Move on!
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Move on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoUr7qPfZM
most people dont even need to click the link, because you know what this is! ;) ;D 8)
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Move on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoUr7qPfZM
most people dont even need to click the link, because you know what this is! ;) ;D 8)
True story, it's become my phrase to folks that's always bitching.
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same like west coast,they rap same shit like 25 years,nothing new,lo-lo's,blunt's,pimpin,gang bang and bitchs aint shit but ho's and tricks...
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And how has any genre of music expanded?wow another about love or being dumped.This was a lame article by an old man.And by old man I don't mean age.Some people are 20 and already old men because their stuck in their ways.take radiotube for example.you can hit him over the head with the truth and he will still say it isn't true.I almost laughed when he wrote southern commercial rap is bullshit when he thinks jeezy is classic music.Jeezy is commercial you retard
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i understand what you meant by "perception" but wat world do u live in?? lol Obama aint THAT big in the hood (everywhere) there's still ALOT of niggaz who could care less. i hate when people say dum shit like what you just wrote... i COMPLETLY disagree with all of your points you just tried 2 make (with evidence besides stats)... we ARE STILL everything opposite of what you just wrote, the only thing that was true was the shock value of gangsta rap being dead... i guess u havent been in the projects as of lately or you've been trying to stay away from it for tha longest
Then let's talk about "the projects" for a minute.
You want to complain about "living in the projects" well please realize that that is NOT an example of government persecution, but rather that is government subsidized housing. It's based upon income, so therefore you get a house at a discount price. So your actually being done a favor.
Actually I've spent months in Africa and I've seen what real poverty looks like and believe me, if they were offered an apartment at a discount price based upon their income they would jump at the chance. Shitt.... I'd jump at the chance and I live in America. I pay full price for my apartment; give me a discount!
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And how has any genre of music expanded?wow another about love or being dumped.This was a lame article by an old man.And by old man I don't mean age.Some people are 20 and already old men because their stuck in their ways.take radiotube for example.you can hit him over the head with the truth and he will still say it isn't true.I almost laughed when he wrote southern commercial rap is bullshit when he thinks jeezy is classic music.Jeezy is commercial you retard
That's not true. You just love 2 ride my dick bcuz I come across as intelligent and as a leader. I speak the truth. and 9/10 post/threads u make u always complain about the new shit or anything that comes from the South (i think you're a closet racist/prejudicer truthfully). I think dubcc hired u just 2 fuck with people like me (you have 2 b a MOD) bcuz when people like me come around, we tend 2 persuade folks with good arguements and strong debates (and half the time i dont even try bcuz it's really no competition in the 1st place). I can't help it if u dont like Jeezy or Ross or any other coon from the South, that's "not my job" to make u like them- i just want u 2 understand and with any other minor reading trying to get some real knowledge. Even 50 said he can't call a #1 album a flop, and i think you and a few others should agree and take the "hip hop is dead" album outchur gaping assholes. Why u continue, i dont know- maybe u should get some real friends and enjoy life, or just move 2 America and maybe u'll get it. Or you cood always buy some anti-depressants and call it a day.
And as far as poverty in Africa is concerned i agree with you, same can be said about just about any other place in the world. But music is music, you can only say and do so much,,, if you want something eclektic and totally different that sounds GOOD then listen to some SPOKEN WORD music and "move on".
http://www.imeem.com/popmusic8/music/46soUOYv/jodeci-fun-2-nite/
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That's not true. You just love 2 ride my dick bcuz I come across as intelligent and as a leader.
:D
you should put that in your sig so we can see it every time you make a post.
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That is the funniest thing I have ever read.If your a leader then it truely is a sad day.No wonder you like rick Ross your as delusional as he is.Have you you noticed nobody ever agrees with anything you say?
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And you have your facts crossed because I listen to a lot of southern acts.outkast,killer mike,chamillionaire,fiend,ugk etc etc hell I even listen to jeezy from time to time.But I know the difference between commercial fluff such as jeezy and actual good music.Nobody will remember jeezy in the future he's a product of a label he isn't an artist.
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haha im tellin you jay dont waste time wit this "right now jeezy fan" but you right jeezy aint a boss, artist, nuthin hes another gimmick like the rest of them. hes jus followin the leader
And you have your facts crossed because I listen to a lot of southern acts.outkast,killer mike,chamillionaire,fiend,ugk etc etc hell I even listen to jeezy from time to time.But I know the difference between commercial fluff such as jeezy and actual good music.Nobody will remember jeezy in the future he's a product of a label he isn't an artist.
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Meh I just find argueing with him amusing.like when he says things like he brings good arguements and switches peoples opinions.Like when he made that thread about 36 mafia being better then premo and argued about it forever.hey radio did anyone end up agreeing with you?no they didn't.so I guess you aren't very good at this after all.
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haha 3-6 better than premo
i mean im not the biggest fan of either, but its obvious premo got more talent and puts in more work into his effort of producin, but watch him come back wit another 36 mafia joint sayin thats better haha
i mean the fact that hes tryna defend jeezy, wayne, gucci etc.. is automatic loss right there
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did a guy who says Jeezy makes classic music call himself intelligent? :laugh:
we hate on bad music, has nothing to do with the region brotha. ;)
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here goes these 4 whores again...
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here goes these 4 horseman again...
DAMN STRAIGHT, BUMP MY G! 8) 8) 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoUr7qPfZM
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I just find it funny how delusional he is and what a hypocrite he is.the shit he says is too damn funny
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ITS FUNNY TO THE 4 HORSEMAN THAT WOULD BE US
but hes serious about it, i mean hes been on this quest of his for months, member he was sayin hes done wit this site...
imagine what his girl (if he could ever get one) thinks about him or is thinkin bout him after she left him 4 dead
I just find it funny how delusional he is and what a hypocrite he is.the shit he says is too damn funny
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na the best is how he says we dont bother him & were "losers" because we post on here; but he comes & just writes a 15 page essay on his opinons of us & his beliefs in rap. :laugh:
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Elvis Presley ain't got no soul...Chuck Berry is Rock N roll
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hip hop and blacks ? WTF who ever made this thread needs a good smacc !!! THE SOUTH RAP IS ONE DIMENSIONAL FOR THE MOST PART accept OUTKAST , T.I , and a couple others
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here goes these 4 whores again...
jeezy....
are you fuckin kidding me for once i agree with jay. that your are a retard
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4 horses>>>>jeezy, t.i., 3-6 mafia, rick ross
here goes these 4 whores again...
jeezy....
are you fuckin kidding me for once i agree with jay. that your are a retard
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4 horses>>>>jeezy, t.i., 3-6 mafia, rick ross
ti rick and jeezy rap for the kids thay make the little kids dance at there partys it isent hip hop
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i know along wit many other rappers these days
in thats what i was sayin
4 horses>>>>(over them 4 rappers and add wayne, jim jones, fat joe the list goes on and on
4 horses>>>>jeezy, t.i., 3-6 mafia, rick ross
ti rick and jeezy rap for the kids thay make the little kids dance at there partys it isent hip hop
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i know along wit many other rappers these days
in thats what i was sayin
4 horses>>>>(over them 4 rappers and add wayne, jim jones, fat joe the list goes on and on
4 horses>>>>jeezy, t.i., 3-6 mafia, rick ross
ti rick and jeezy rap for the kids thay make the little kids dance at there partys it isent hip hop
yea for real its all gone shit. but then the people will buy this new shit and trash and talk shit on the old cats i cant work it out???
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Damn, such hate for the crop of Southern rap
TI is dope - what the fuck is wrong with Paper Trail? Hell the 4 singles - Dead and Gone, Swagger Like Us, Whatever You Like, Live Ya Life - all smash
Young Jeezy is dope. Just got into him recently. Had a problem with his vocals at first but now I can bump dude. The Inspiration has got heat.
Wayne can be dope like a good amount of the material released from the Carter 3 sessions - don't know his work pre carter III sessions. His recent shit is wack.
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^^^ they're just cleary immature and think they're bad asses bcuz they can talk shit about people on the internet and not get they face busted inside out. it's really nothing worthy of attention. all the artist that they hate on have ALL platinum records and have fan bases that spread world wide... so with them thinking that they're right is really nothing but them being dumbasses and taking themselves way too serious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6LGvyFkCGA
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And once again your prove your ignorance when you equate sales with actual good music.vanilla ice has one of the best selling hip hop albums of all time so I guess he must be one of the goat.Rick is no different then vanilla ice.grow the fuck up.
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And once again your prove your ignorance when you equate sales with actual good music.vanilla ice has one of the best selling hip hop albums of all time so I guess he must be one of the goat.Rick is no different then vanilla ice.grow the fuck up.
man you really love tryna fuck with me lol (and worse u actually think it's working)... you're such a loser lol. go 2 sleep nigga
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you should get a girlfriend brotha, it'll change your life.... seriously
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You should get a brain,it will change your life brotha
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You should get a brain,it will change your life brotha
i guess you were hoping for a LOL from Enyce and a co-sign from Chamillitary click but I beat them to it with a 'Fuck You'... sorry for the dissapointment
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I'm sure your parents are proud of this monumental achievement
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I'm sure your parents are proud of this monumental achievement
why are you following me on here, this is how u exposed yourself as a loser- you think it's cute and funny to do shit like this. im not erritated by you, i find it histerical really lol. you try 2 fry me but it's never worked since you've been here... nobody's fry'd me yet and can't... im the joan king (in person and on the computer) im only giving you the attention bcuz you're acting like a flea on this dog's nuts and im scratchin you off. you're irrelevant, lame, and you think blogging is the best thing since anal sex with 2 asian bitches. how can u be so queer? matter of fact you aren't even queer- you're worse, atleast faggots are funny. you, you need help and you can start by getting a life, even Cham Bitch Click aint even this bad. If you gonna try 2 come at me come with some better jokes. :bomb:
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.... think about it for a second.... i know you're thinking of something to say. I'm sure you've read this by now
http://www.imeem.com/crunkpopeye/music/eiDVBbYD/three-6-mafia-da-first-date/
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I just find your flat out ignorance very amusing.Its always the most ignorant that are the most arrogant.Such as yourself.Your a goof and can't be older then 14.Your views on hip hop are pathetic and shallow.
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I just find your flat out ignorance very amusing.Its always the most ignorant that are the most arrogant.Such as yourself.Your a goof and can't be older then 14.Your views on hip hop are pathetic and shallow.
fine Jaydc555 let's battle it out, wat do u wanna say 2 me go head... speak on it. it's 4 1 night only so make it good baby boy
http://www.imeem.com/gixxerman/music/qfSQwQus/project-pat-north-north/
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im getting tired so make it quick....really
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Do you two/three know each other?
Ya'll keep bickering like best friends.
Makes me think of that Nas quote,
"Worst enemies want to be my best friends
Best friends want to be enemies, like that's what's in"
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Do you two/three know each other?
Ya'll keep bickering like best friends.
Makes me think of that Nas quote,
"Worst enemies want to be my best friends
Best friends want to be enemies, like that's what's in"
lol i dont know this bama, i guess he wants 2 b my friend bcuz there's no nigga-black folks where he lives, if any. so he wants my quotes, advice, and perspective and most of all my knowledge... i dont get it really, but whatever. i dont have 2 go 2 work until 1 tomorrow so i can stay up 4 a lil bit and talk shit if that's wat he wants. i guess he wants to be my girlfriend but i dont know, you have to ask him on that. bcuz i really dont get it. stalking and following some1 on the internet is not my idea of doing something productive or unproductive/gangsta 4 that matter
http://www.imeem.com/people/R-X4A/music/k7fI2Eof/project-pat-ridin-n-swerve/
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this nigga gets so off topic when i come thru it's funny. worser than that it's not even funny. Jimmy Falon can crack a better joke than this banana peeler. Lonliness and depression will fuck u up in tha mind, especially at night.
http://www.imeem.com/lovexmeg/music/rNBsw-xs/project-pat-cheese-and-dope/
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Lol I have friends of all races.your knowledge?like when you claimed 3 6 mafia better then premo?or when you called jeezy classic music?how about when you called Rick Ross having the album of the year?I just find you amusing because your so delusional.Sometimes I think your just saying things for shock factor but then you keep going on about it.Fact is I feel sorry for you and your taste in music and your reasoning that sales mean quality music.its silly.who could forget when you called chamillionaire a mix tape rapper when he's won a Grammy and sold millions
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Lol I have friends of all races.your knowledge?like when you claimed 3 6 mafia better then premo?or when you called jeezy classic music?how about when you called Rick Ross having the album of the year?I just find you amusing because your so delusional.Sometimes I think your just saying things for shock factor but then you keep going on about it.Fact is I feel sorry for you and your taste in music and your reasoning that sales mean quality music.its silly.who could forget when you called chamillionaire a mix tape rapper when he's won a Grammy and sold millions
lol are you done
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Ha ha yes.
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jay you slaughtered this youtube banger, posts ago
but its all good, keep bringin slaughterings
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thsi guy knows not of what he speaks.....
first off, he lumps togteher all rap and hip-hop to make a blanket statement......that's when I knew he was full of shit.....
second, he acts like black folks haven't been doing rock all this time......they have....latino folks too, we started that shit then made it better.....white folks expanded the genre no doubt, but black blues musicians are the style's gran dad's......
Hip-Hop still has a lot of good music coming out.....just head underground, cause you won't hear it on TV or teh radio though.....
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thsi guy knows not of what he speaks.....
first off, he lumps togteher all rap and hip-hop to make a blanket statement......that's when I knew he was full of shit.....
second, he acts like black folks haven't been doing rock all this time......they have....latino folks too, we started that shit then made it better.....white folks expanded the genre no doubt, but black blues musicians are the style's gran dad's......
Hip-Hop still has a lot of good music coming out.....just head underground, cause you won't hear it on TV or teh radio though.....
none of them will ever fully GRASP THAT CONCEPT
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thsi guy knows not of what he speaks.....
first off, he lumps togteher all rap and hip-hop to make a blanket statement......that's when I knew he was full of shit.....
second, he acts like black folks haven't been doing rock all this time......they have....latino folks too, we started that shit then made it better.....white folks expanded the genre no doubt, but black blues musicians are the style's gran dad's......
Hip-Hop still has a lot of good music coming out.....just head underground, cause you won't hear it on TV or teh radio though.....
blacks created Rock n Roll
http://www.imeem.com/people/yQXP8K/music/F3ebXTkL/mos-def-rock-n-roll/