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Title: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: acgrundy on May 10, 2009, 06:26:25 PM
There is not a single skit on the album.  There is not even an intro.  Rappers are addicted to skits like Internet Legends are addicted to post counts.  It can't happen.  There hasn't been an rap album made in the past 15 years that doesn't have at least 1 skit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it leaked and I like the songs, but I know for a fact that it is not the real tracklist due to not a single skit.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Lunatic on May 10, 2009, 06:27:28 PM
There hasn't been an rap album made in the past 15 years that doesn't have at least 1 skit.
Not that I disagree with u this ain't the real album imo, (i don't know that for fact, nor am I putting that out there as fact, just guessing)

but the quoted part I left is a pretty big statement which is 100% false.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2009, 06:28:22 PM
theres barely any solo's and half these tracks were leaked already


thats proof to me
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 10, 2009, 06:31:44 PM
i find it hard to believe that in the last 15 years their hasn't been an album with one skit.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Lunatic on May 10, 2009, 06:32:43 PM
i find it hard to believe that in the last 15 years their hasn't been an album with one skit.
T.I. - Trap Muzik
T.I. - Urban Legend
T.I. - Paper Trail
Scarface Presents: The Product

4 off the top of the dome without a skit, intro or outro. All straight songs.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: EFFeX on May 10, 2009, 06:34:11 PM
It's obviously not the real thing, it's almost common knowledge that some of these songs aren't even from SHTTBG.

By the way, the Intro is on the LSN/DRF snippets, so one DOES exist, but it wasn't included on this project.

It is important to note though that FTP sold "Say Hi To The Bad Guy THE EP", they semi-acknowledge it's not the album, but don't correct people when they assume it's the album.

Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: JohnnyL on May 10, 2009, 06:34:38 PM
I would say that most of what's there on the album is real.  It's just not all there.  Look at the tracklist for LSN's version.  There are tracks on that one that aren't on this one (including an intro).  I doubt that was the final version either.  But I think both versions have songs that were recorded to be on "Say Hi to the Bad Guy."
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 10, 2009, 06:35:40 PM
there never was a finalized tracklist for SHTTBG. Plus some of the songs on here were not even meant for SHTTBG, such as "DOllaz in my hand", which was an Untouchable era track
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: EFFeX on May 10, 2009, 06:37:27 PM
I would say that most of what's there on the album is real.  It's just not all there.  Look at the tracklist for LSN's version.  There are tracks on that one that aren't on this one (including an intro).  I doubt that was the final version either.  But I think both versions have songs that were recorded to be on "Say Hi to the Bad Guy."

Agree... I think that the cross-over tracks between the FTP and LSN tapes are closer to being the real things. However, that still isn't CONCRETE proof, that just shows that FTP chose to release tracks that other people have so they could keep the rare stuff to themselves.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: pootypooty on May 10, 2009, 06:38:20 PM
There hasn't been an rap album made in the past 15 years that doesn't have at least 1 skit.
Not that I disagree with u this ain't the real album imo, (i don't know that for fact, nor am I putting that out there as fact, just guessing)

but the quoted part I left is a pretty big statement which is 100% false.

I think he was being sarcastic with the skit statement.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: JohnnyL on May 10, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
there never was a finalized tracklist for SHTTBG. Plus some of the songs on here were not even meant for SHTTBG, such as "DOllaz in my hand", which was an Untouchable era track

Right.  Or "Gangsta Rap" which was an unused version of the track on "DPG 2002."  But I would bet that most of what's on that album are tracks that were, at one time or another, intended to be used for "Say Hi to the Bad Guy."
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: acgrundy on May 10, 2009, 06:43:31 PM
There hasn't been an rap album made in the past 15 years that doesn't have at least 1 skit.
Not that I disagree with u this ain't the real album imo, (i don't know that for fact, nor am I putting that out there as fact, just guessing)

but the quoted part I left is a pretty big statement which is 100% false.

I think he was being sarcastic with the skit statement.

Bingo
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2009, 09:59:08 PM
all eyez on me had no skits
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
more proof: GANGSTABOOGY posted it :D
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 10, 2009, 10:03:16 PM
I thought it pretty much went without saying that the FPE bootleg was not an intended version of the actual album.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 10, 2009, 10:21:40 PM
more proof: GANGSTABOOGY posted it :D

Dude nobody likes you. On or offline. Wait till I got to sleep tonight then go to school tomorrow so you can sit here and neg rep my karma once every hour.


PS: "The Doctor's Advocate" had no into / outro / skits either.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2009, 10:22:48 PM
more proof: GANGSTABOOGY posted it :D

Dude nobody likes you. On or offline. Wait till I got to sleep tonight then go to school tomorrow so you can sit here and neg rep my karma once every hour.


PS: "The Doctor's Advocate" had no into / outro / skits either.



LOL LOL LOL your a buffoon.  kill yourself.  SO YOU'RE THE ONE WHO NEG REPS ME ALL THE TIME
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: acgrundy on May 10, 2009, 10:36:25 PM
more proof: GANGSTABOOGY posted it :D

Dude nobody likes you. On or offline. Wait till I got to sleep tonight then go to school tomorrow so you can sit here and neg rep my karma once every hour.


PS: "The Doctor's Advocate" had no into / outro / skits either.

The Doctor's Advocate had the built in skit in the first song...built in skits are even worse than regular skits because you cannot outright skip them. 
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 11, 2009, 10:36:30 AM
gangsta boogy didn't even have the brains to post Gangsta Rap OG
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: EFFeX on May 11, 2009, 10:39:15 AM
I thought it pretty much went without saying that the FPE bootleg was not an intended version of the actual album.

I think some more than others...

I think those Petey Pablo releases are pretty accurate. Although I'm not a fan of his so I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: EFFeX on May 11, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
more proof: GANGSTABOOGY posted it :D

Dude nobody likes you. On or offline. Wait till I got to sleep tonight then go to school tomorrow so you can sit here and neg rep my karma once every hour.


PS: "The Doctor's Advocate" had no into / outro / skits either.

The Doctor's Advocate had the built in skit in the first song...built in skits are even worse than regular skits because you cannot outright skip them. 

I think the best place to put a skit is built in at the END of a track, so you can bump it if you want or just skip.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: JohnnyL on May 11, 2009, 11:30:59 AM
I thought it pretty much went without saying that the FPE bootleg was not an intended version of the actual album.

I think some more than others...

I think those Petey Pablo releases are pretty accurate. Although I'm not a fan of his so I don't know for sure.

Yeah.  I doubt that any FTP release thus far has been the exact album that Death Row would have released, going all the way back to that OFTB cd they put out.  That first Petey album they did might have been close, but I doubt any of them are exactly correct.  There has probably been some guess-work involved.  And it also might have depended what tracks the people at FTP had access to,  when they were putting these projects out.   
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Okka on May 11, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Has anybody claimed it was the real version? Most of the songs sound like they are just featuring Crooked I. I thought that Crooked heard about the leak and he even said that there's only a few songs on it that was supposed to be on the real version.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: EFFeX on May 11, 2009, 11:46:06 AM
Has anybody claimed it was the real version? Most of the songs sound like they are just featuring Crooked I. I thought that Crooked heard about the leak and he even said that there's only a few songs on it that was supposed to be on the real version.

I don't think anyone claimed it, but I think we were just trying to let casual fans / non-fans know it's not the full project. So when they push it around the internet 1000 times saying "Crooked I's debut album" it doesn't confuse anyone.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: JohnnyL on May 11, 2009, 11:47:36 AM
Has anybody claimed it was the real version? Most of the songs sound like they are just featuring Crooked I. I thought that Crooked heard about the leak and he even said that there's only a few songs on it that was supposed to be on the real version.

No.  I don't think anyone is claiming that this is the exact "SHTTBG" album that was going to be released.  That's why I'm surprised there's so much discussion about it.  It's obviously not exactly what would have come out.  You can look at the tracklist and determine that in about 2 seconds.  I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised that it's not the retail album.  It's a compilation of unreleased tracks like everything FTP puts out.  I still think that more of these were recorded for "SHTTBG" than were not, though.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: DPGC23 on May 11, 2009, 02:14:30 PM
MEANT 4 THE ALBUM OR NOT,
THIS IS A LOT OF UNLREASED CROOKED SHIT,

FUKYEAAAAA

DPGC23
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on May 11, 2009, 02:20:21 PM
Saying that the Album had no skits, intros, or outros as proff that this isnt the real version is ridicilous, but im pretty sure that we all know this isnt the except Say Hi To the Bad guy retail that was gunna be put out. But well never really know unless crooked I had the tracklist and puts it out...Or maybe Wideawke new owner of Death Row will but out the REAL version of SHTTBG and Untoucbable ablum, one can only hope....


Regardless, Im just glad it leaked! Been dieing to hear this cd whether its the EXACT version or half the real songs and some other Death Row era tracks.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on May 11, 2009, 02:40:28 PM
I'm assuming there are two versions of Me And My Dogg, one with Ray J the other with K-Ci?

Also on one of those FTP samplers I'm So Crooked actually begins with an intro by Kurupt, now if someone could mix that intro back with the actual song would be dope...
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: JohnnyL on May 11, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
I'm assuming there are two versions of Me And My Dogg, one with Ray J the other with K-Ci?

Also on one of those FTP samplers I'm So Crooked actually begins with an intro by Kurupt, now if someone could mix that intro back with the actual song would be dope...

Here ya go.  I put that on there a while back....

http://www.sendspace.com/file/r8ws61

Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: Giesuz on May 11, 2009, 03:16:38 PM
I'm assuming there are two versions of Me And My Dogg, one with Ray J the other with K-Ci?

Also on one of those FTP samplers I'm So Crooked actually begins with an intro by Kurupt, now if someone could mix that intro back with the actual song would be dope...

Here ya go.  I put that on there a while back....

http://www.sendspace.com/file/r8ws61



thanks, i like the intro
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: EFFeX on May 11, 2009, 03:38:11 PM
I was under the impression that the Kurupt talk was just a snippet of the real intro and not directly attached to I'm So Crooked.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: JohnnyL on May 11, 2009, 05:40:58 PM
I was under the impression that the Kurupt talk was just a snippet of the real intro and not directly attached to I'm So Crooked.

I'm not really sure where that Kurupt intro really goes.  I just thought it sounded cool there, so I added it back on.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on May 11, 2009, 08:45:05 PM
I was under the impression that the Kurupt talk was just a snippet of the real intro and not directly attached to I'm So Crooked.

I'm not really sure where that Kurupt intro really goes.  I just thought it sounded cool there, so I added it back on.

+1 for that.
Title: Re: Proof that SHTTBG is not the real album...
Post by: acgrundy on May 11, 2009, 09:09:28 PM
more proof: GANGSTABOOGY posted it :D

Dude nobody likes you. On or offline. Wait till I got to sleep tonight then go to school tomorrow so you can sit here and neg rep my karma once every hour.


PS: "The Doctor's Advocate" had no into / outro / skits either.

The Doctor's Advocate had the built in skit in the first song...built in skits are even worse than regular skits because you cannot outright skip them. 

I think the best place to put a skit is built in at the END of a track, so you can bump it if you want or just skip.

Correction...the best place to put a skit is in the trash can on the hard drive before the final tracklist is made

For the record, I created this thread as a joke...some people don't get sarcasm.  I was being sarcastic because so many rap albums are full of skits.