West Coast Connection Forum

DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: jeromechickenbone on May 23, 2009, 02:07:20 PM

Title: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: jeromechickenbone on May 23, 2009, 02:07:20 PM
This album is incredible.  The wackest joints are the 2 singles they released, and they were dope considering what else is on the radio /mtv/bet.

The concepts are incredibly deep, raps are sick, beats are sick.  Not too many features, not too much flavor of the week production.

This album has 10 outta 10 tracks, and is very consistent in both theme and structure.

Best album released last year. 

What yall think?
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 23, 2009, 02:08:45 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Big B on May 23, 2009, 02:58:20 PM
never heard it.

didnt he have a dr pepper song?
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 23, 2009, 03:12:51 PM
never heard it.

didnt he have a dr pepper song?

Sampled one, and you're missing out.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Big B on May 23, 2009, 03:17:32 PM
i might just get it then
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 23, 2009, 03:42:17 PM
i praised this album when it dropped.

i think it got my vote for album of the year, i forgot lol.

GREAT ALBUM. 8)
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Lunatic on May 23, 2009, 05:35:32 PM
This album is incredible.  The wackest joints are the 2 singles they released, and they were dope considering what else is on the radio /mtv/bet.

The concepts are incredibly deep, raps are sick, beats are sick.  Not too many features, not too much flavor of the week production.

This album has 10 outta 10 tracks, and is very consistent in both theme and structure.

Best album released last year. 

What yall think?
100% agree with everything u said the 2 singles being only disliked songs but still not bad..however i didnt like how 'project roach' was executed.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 23, 2009, 06:00:05 PM
Good album.The single with chris brown was terrible but hero had a banging beat
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on May 23, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
Co-Sign this thread 100% 8) except for the hate for 'Hero', Nas bodied that track and the beat was :o One of the best mainstream singles since 200_
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 23, 2009, 06:47:26 PM
^i loved Hero, beat was sick & Nas came so correct over it. 8)
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: virtuoso on May 23, 2009, 07:27:41 PM
I aint hating, lord knows I have many of his albums but...

Queens Get The Money - uninspired production and way too short
You Can't Stop Us Now - I don't feel the beat suits Nas whatsoever, or maybe I just don't like this type of beat, who knows
Make The World Go Round - So so
Testify - I didn't feel the slow delivery at all, again not feeling the beat
Project Roach - Again way too short, I don't see the point in trying to create a concept song when you are intending to create such a short song, also the beat just doesn't fit at all.
Like Me - Again a wack beat, this just sounds messy and horrible

It is a good album but to me this could and should have been a lot better.

Fave tracks
Sly Fox
America
Breathe
Hero
Fried Chicken

From those fave tracks though, there isn't one song where you can rewind it back and be marveled, don't get me wrong it's good, but nothing that truly stands out.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Let's Get Down on May 24, 2009, 01:56:57 AM
This album is incredible.  The wackest joints are the 2 singles they released, and they were dope considering what else is on the radio /mtv/bet.

The concepts are incredibly deep, raps are sick, beats are sick.  Not too many features, not too much flavor of the week production.

This album has 10 outta 10 tracks, and is very consistent in both theme and structure.

Best album released last year. 

What yall think?

this album has 10 outta 10 tracks??
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: stillinrehab on May 24, 2009, 02:03:27 AM
Im not hating this was a good album but it wasnt TRONIC... That album beats this hands down! Black Milk did the job last year and hes still doin it... im sure its not too early to say RANDOM AXE FTW!
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 24, 2009, 02:18:11 AM
One of the best in 2008. I still bump "Y'all My Niggas" on the regular.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: NillerTheKid on May 24, 2009, 04:10:27 AM
Im not hating this was a good album but it wasnt TRONIC... That album beats this hands down! Black Milk did the job last year and hes still doin it... im sure its not too early to say RANDOM AXE FTW!
;D Random Axe is gonna be album of the decade
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 24, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
had some bangers sly fox is dope

but on sidenote but to do wit this album:
one of the dukes at the record store was talkin to me about this album and nas
he was sayin wit the cover nas made or had made and what nas is talkin about hes fulla shit cuz he didnt go thru slavery or any hardship
what you think?
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Raphael on May 24, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
i totally forgot about this albums existence even though i bumped the shit out of it when it first came out..... dope album but some songs were a bit corny.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: PLANT on May 24, 2009, 02:19:44 PM
yea this album is sick
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Action! on May 25, 2009, 08:17:19 AM
Due to all the negative feedback Nas got from the hype he created by naming it Nigger Def Jam restricted the album's content.  Proof of this comes from the material on the Nigger Tape with Dj Green Lantern.   The flow of the album felt inconsistent with tracks like Make the World Go Round between Breathe and Hero.  Basically, the topic content couldn't be expressed properly due to Def Jam suffocating Nas.

I couldn't vibe to the beat selection for certain tracks - Sly Fox is the one that pops into my head.   That rock orchestration came off as corny.   But, then tracks like Testify hit home.  It's such a dope track.   

People say it's all a ploy but I think Nas tries to deliver quality material that can sell.  Hence, his last two albums have caused a lot of controversy to sell the album but have tried to live up to expectations.  I'm sure he polarized a huge percentage of his non-black fanbase with this album.

Whoever complained about the cover clearly didn't grasp the concept of the album.

Bishop Lamont's Nigger Noize hit home for me and that was released in 2007.  Nas released untitled in 2008.  So, I was left comparing the two.  For me Bishop touched on a wider array of content then Nas was able to and some of his beats were a lot colder then Nas's.  Two dope releases. 

When I judge Untitled by itself I give it a 6.8-7.5 out of 10.    When I consider the Nigger Tape and mix up the two I give it a higher rating.  Shit is dope.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 25, 2009, 08:34:45 AM
Nas - Untitled (Bonus Tracks)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Artist...............: Nas
Album................: Untitled
Genre................: Hip-Hop
Year.................: 2008
Ripper...............: EAC (Secure mode) / LAME 3.92 &
Codec................: FhG
Version..............: MPEG 1 Layer III
Quality..............: Standard, (avg. bitrate: 197kbps)
Channels.............: Stereo / 44100 hz
Tags.................: , ID3 v2.2
Information..........: http://www.realraptalk.com/



---------------------------------------------------------------------
Tracklisting
---------------------------------------------------------------------

16. (00:03:13) Nas - Be A Nigger Too
17. (00:03:36) Nas - Esco Let's Go
18. (00:02:50) Nas - Middle Finger (feat. David Banner)
19. (00:05:16) Nas - Association (feat. Stic Man)
20. (00:02:24) Nas - War Is Necessary
21. (00:01:39) Nas - Nigger Hatred (Outro)

Playing Time.........: 00:18:56
Total Size...........: 27.02 MB

Can anyone up these?
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Action! on May 25, 2009, 10:12:57 AM
http://sharebee.com/dc7dd76e

Association Ft Stic Man
Be a Nigger Too
Election Night
Fear of Mandingo
I'm On Ft. Dj Khaled & Cool
Legendary (Mike Tyson)
Like Me
Middle Finger Ft. David Banner
Nigger Hatred (The Proclamation)
Proclamation
Something Foul
The N
The World
War is Necessary
What It Is (Esco Let's Go)

Living It  (Ttoo much fucking DJ DJ DJ so I didn't include it in the zip but you might want it.)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5402720688110b70/

Not all of these are leftovers for Untitled.  The N is a Hip-Hop is Dead leftover.  I'm On features Cool (of Cool & Dre) and is from Dj Khaled's We Gobal.  The World has one Dj ad-lib in the beginning and is produced by Kanye West.  Nigger Hatred is the Proclamation verse over a piano - it was featured in the beginning of Be a Nigger Too video.   War is Necessary is from GTA4 soundtrack. 

From what I gathered Nas basically came up with the album conceptually around Hip-Hop is Dead.  Originally that album was titled Hip-Hop is Dead...The N.  Again, Def Jam forced him to switch it up to Hip-Hop is Dead.  So, his next album he decided to go full blown with the concept.  The majority of these tracks are at worst leftovers from recording sessions that created Untitled.  There's a couple other tracks that aren't directly related but could easily be thrown on - Surviving the Times & Shine On'em.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: thisoneguy360 on May 25, 2009, 10:45:50 AM
Lyrically great album, Nas 's flow was on point too. I guess the whole political thing just isn't for me so this wasn't one of my favorite Nas albums, still dope though.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: EML on May 25, 2009, 12:27:51 PM
I really like how its politcal its a good album for sure
I hope he continues to do politcal rap.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Action! on May 25, 2009, 12:31:30 PM
This ain't that political, more social.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: NillerTheKid on May 25, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
This ain't that political, more social.
??? you know, its possible to combine those two?
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Action! on May 25, 2009, 04:21:12 PM
This ain't that political, more social.
??? you know, its possible to combine those two?

You know I know that but it's more social commentary than it is political.  Nas isn't as smart as everyone pretends he is.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 25, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
very good album, solid album, some great cuts on it but while its solid throughout, it has high points but some average ones too.

Lyrically he is so far above anyone else on a mainstream level who made it and is a smart cat. Aint nobody calling him a genius but he is smart enough for his music. As for his lyrics, its easily on another level in comparison to most other cats out there who made it/get noticed.

Nas has been in the game for pretty much 15-20 years and to stay relavent and still be able to drop rhymes and kill a beat like he did on hero and still have a point to make pretty much sums it all up for me.

When a cat like bishop tries to branch himself into that category, it makes me laugh because the difference between the two just in terms of lyrics is so big, its almost corny what he does.

Nas is on another level to most cats in the game. Only a few can say when they're on the top of their game they can compete and i cant think of even 3-4 in terms of albums who come come as solid as consistant as him without spitting a whole bunch of bullshit to full his flow. He also while tries to sell, his beats have always been a different branch of dope.

I remember when stillmatic dropped and alot of groupies at there time though anything that never had an 'aftermath' sound to an album, was considered poor in terms of production, but truth is stillmatic has great production. As mentioned previously, production is about combining the speaker with the music making it sound as one and nas on stillmatic does that greatly.

Anyway nas is not the same rapper he was when he was younger, his flow has switched abit and he is older, its natural but dude is a hiphop legend and still today, making dope cuts!

Dope album, great artist.



Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: S P I C E on May 25, 2009, 10:00:53 PM
Hero was amazing whether it was a single or not.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 25, 2009, 10:07:31 PM
http://sharebee.com/dc7dd76e

Association Ft Stic Man
Be a Nigger Too
Election Night
Fear of Mandingo
I'm On Ft. Dj Khaled & Cool
Legendary (Mike Tyson)
Like Me
Middle Finger Ft. David Banner
Nigger Hatred (The Proclamation)
Proclamation
Something Foul
The N
The World
War is Necessary
What It Is (Esco Let's Go)

Living It  (Ttoo much fucking DJ DJ DJ so I didn't include it in the zip but you might want it.)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5402720688110b70/

Not all of these are leftovers for Untitled.  The N is a Hip-Hop is Dead leftover.  I'm On features Cool (of Cool & Dre) and is from Dj Khaled's We Gobal.  The World has one Dj ad-lib in the beginning and is produced by Kanye West.  Nigger Hatred is the Proclamation verse over a piano - it was featured in the beginning of Be a Nigger Too video.   War is Necessary is from GTA4 soundtrack. 

From what I gathered Nas basically came up with the album conceptually around Hip-Hop is Dead.  Originally that album was titled Hip-Hop is Dead...The N.  Again, Def Jam forced him to switch it up to Hip-Hop is Dead.  So, his next album he decided to go full blown with the concept.  The majority of these tracks are at worst leftovers from recording sessions that created Untitled.  There's a couple other tracks that aren't directly related but could easily be thrown on - Surviving the Times & Shine On'em.

Thank you Mr. Action!, you've been propped.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND! on May 25, 2009, 10:47:01 PM
Great album. One of the best of the year.


Dope concept. Conscious capitalist Masonic Nas.



On the road to riches and diamond rings

In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is the king
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 26, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
I loved this album. Hero and We Make the World Go Round were unnecessary additions and didn't belong on the album (though I liked the Nas and Game collab). I loved the production on every track (none were what I would call "bangers" so a lot of people might not feel it, but imo they were the perfect beats for this album because they didn't overshadow what Nas had to say).

Fav song off there is Untitled.

I do agree that Nas appears to know a lot more than he actually does. He has that ability to make a song seem deeper than it actually is. If you've ever seen him in interviews or anything he comes across as kind of ignorant actually. On this album he touches on a lot of stuff but never goes into detail on anything. But that's okay because its a good starting point for thinking about things.
Title: Re: Nas' NIGGER album...
Post by: Big B on May 26, 2009, 07:06:19 PM
^they call that a gift