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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Dre-Day on May 26, 2009, 02:44:07 AM
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ok so Relapse' success is buying Aftermath some extra time, but i still think that interscope will sell Aftermath in the near future.
a minimal amount of aftermath projects have seen the light of the day, in the last few years.
not to mention that the roster has shrunk a lot.
also, interscope is not happy with 50 cent's singles, hence the album got pushed back several times.
all Aftermath has left is Eminem: there is no new star.
interscope wants Detox ASAP, but Dre is really taking his time so i wonder whether the company will take legal action against Dre.
i don't really know what kind of deal was made for Detox though.
so how long do you think that Aftermath will last? i've voted for 2011.
Eminem, Dre & 50 cent have placed their bets on the option that they've chosen, as you can see in this picture:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chronic_jay/20090323-emdre50.jpg)
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Its hard to say. Relapse is fucking dope and iam sure has made everyone hungry for anything Dre, relapse 2 comin right? Bishop? hmm, d-12??? cashis? and detox iam sure will keep people happy for a long time. Then dre said he just gonna produce and look for the next talent, right?
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Honestly,I expect detox to drop summer 2010 and then dre will probably retire and close up shop at aftermath at that point.
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Voted 2011 - 50 will drop BISD this Winter then Em with Relapse 2 early next year followed by DETOX at the end of 2010, unfortunately Bishop will never drop, Aftermath will be gone by 2011 and if it isnt, DETOX will be the only reason...
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The Math will either collapse or go through a complete reformation. lols!
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I prefer to be a bit optimistic and once that monkey (Detox) is off Dres shoulder hopefully he can regroup OTHERWISE we have Em + a whole cache of valuable artists floating and it wont be independant floating so if Interscope wanted Aftermath gone im sure alot of other labels could be interested on having Aftermath associated with them instead... too hard to say though but I try not to share the bleak outlook!
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2011. and good riddance too.
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Its hard to say. Relapse is fucking dope and iam sure has made everyone hungry for anything Dre, relapse 2 comin right? Bishop? hmm, d-12??? cashis? and detox iam sure will keep people happy for a long time. Then dre said he just gonna produce and look for the next talent, right?
interscope only seems to care about Eminem & Detox :P
anyway, i wouldn't mind if Dre fully concentrates on producing again :)
Honestly,I expect detox to drop summer 2010 and then dre will probably retire and close up shop at aftermath at that point.
Voted 2011 - 50 will drop BISD this Winter then Em with Relapse 2 early next year followed by DETOX at the end of 2010, unfortunately Bishop will never drop, Aftermath will be gone by 2011 and if it isnt, DETOX will be the only reason...
so you guys think that Detox will drop in 2010? :o
in a perfect world, it could be possible, but realistically speaking, how could that be possible?
i mean Dre's perfectionism is extreme. so why would it drop in 2010 and not 2011, 2012 or later?
it makes no sense to me.
Dre put Detox on hold for Relapse; shortly after, Relapse II was born.
Bishop's involvement in Detox has changed, as he has no clue of what's going on.
so where's the "new" potential star, that will carry Detox? i don't see him/her.
i think Dre has worked on Detox approx. 2 years in total(speculation based on the 2007 LA times interview & a recent Eminem interview) and how much did he scrap?
he's really taking his time with this project & doesn't mind working on projects in between.
I prefer to be a bit optimistic and once that monkey (Detox) is off Dres shoulder hopefully he can regroup OTHERWISE we have Em + a whole cache of valuable artists floating and it wont be independant floating so if Interscope wanted Aftermath gone im sure alot of other labels could be interested on having Aftermath associated with them instead... too hard to say though but I try not to share the bleak outlook!
i understand, but you can't deny that the future of Aftermath isn't looking bright.
a Detox release could buy the label some extra time though.
well interscope could sell it's aftermath stocks & only keep Eminem + Dr.Dre signed to interscope.
other labels could buy stocks of aftermath, but who knows whether anyone is interested; that's hard to figure out right now
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depends. I wouldn't be surprised if once 50 leaves and Em retires (thats if he does) after Relapse Dre drops Detox and then works on whole albums with artists. So I could see it going a while, after all Jimmy can't knock Dres success rate.
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Gimme "Detox" & Bishop's Debut & I'll let The math go out in peace.
Don't see Em wanting/needing to continue after the Relapse records.....
50 want's to expand and do his Jay-Z thing (be his own Boss)
After "Detox" Dre should prob stick to his root's & make artists.
And if it does close shop before Bishop drop's...
someone leak that shit!
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Gimme "Detox" & Bishop's Debut & I'll let The math go out in peace.
Don't see Em wanting/needing to continue after the Relapse records.....
50 want's to expand and do his Jay-Z thing (be his own Boss)
After "Detox" Dre should prob stick to his root's & make artists.
And if it does close shop before Bishop drop's...
someone leak that shit!
i hope that Bishop is allowed to leave with some of the material, like King T & Hittman
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Detox
The Reformation
All I care about on Aftermath.
Dre needs new talent.
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so where's the "new" potential star, that will carry Detox? i don't see him/her.
Apparently Bishop has been replaced by Slim the mobster? lol. This guy has an even less chance of blowing up then Bish.
well interscope could sell it's aftermath stocks & only keep Eminem + Dr.Dre signed to interscope.
other labels could buy stocks of aftermath, but who knows whether anyone is interested; that's hard to figure out right now
It's not the Aftermath name that's the problem, its Dre (or Jimmy or whoever is making the decisions) for not putting out projects and not taking chances on new rappers.
Aftermath will continue to exist as long as Eminem and 50 keep making records. They are the two most popular and best-selling artists in hip hop right now. Even if they only put out an album every two years, they will still make more money for Interscope than any other hip hop labels. (another label might have 5 rappers drop in a year, but if they all go gold that's still less sales than one Em release).
What Dre should be doing right now is delegating production on 50 and Em projects to his sub producers, and spend all his focus on finding the next Em or 50 so that by the time they retire or want out of their contract he won't need them anymore.
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so where's the "new" potential star, that will carry Detox? i don't see him/her.
Apparently Bishop has been replaced by Slim the mobster? lol. This guy has an even less chance of blowing up then Bish.
maybe Slim the mobster is one of the reasons Detox got put on hold, lol.
well interscope could sell it's aftermath stocks & only keep Eminem + Dr.Dre signed to interscope.
other labels could buy stocks of aftermath, but who knows whether anyone is interested; that's hard to figure out right now
It's not the Aftermath name that's the problem, its Dre (or Jimmy or whoever is making the decisions) for not putting out projects and not taking chances on new rappers.
Aftermath will continue to exist as long as Eminem and 50 keep making records. They are the two most popular and best-selling artists in hip hop right now. Even if they only put out an album every two years, they will still make more money for Interscope than any other hip hop labels. (another label might have 5 rappers drop in a year, but if they all go gold that's still less sales than one Em release).
What Dre should be doing right now is delegating production on 50 and Em projects to his sub producers, and spend all his focus on finding the next Em or 50 so that by the time they retire or want out of their contract he won't need them anymore.
true, 50 could still sell quite well for today's standards, but interscope wants more :laugh:
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this will be the last round of albums from aftermath...
relapse
BISD
detox (maybe)
after that maybe a few best ofs or some shit but i think aftermath will either get sold or just get absorbed by interscope.
jimmy iovene ruined hip hop
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so where's the "new" potential star, that will carry Detox? i don't see him/her.
Apparently Bishop has been replaced by Slim the mobster? lol. This guy has an even less chance of blowing up then Bish.
maybe Slim the mobster is one of the reasons Detox got put on hold, lol.
well interscope could sell it's aftermath stocks & only keep Eminem + Dr.Dre signed to interscope.
other labels could buy stocks of aftermath, but who knows whether anyone is interested; that's hard to figure out right now
It's not the Aftermath name that's the problem, its Dre (or Jimmy or whoever is making the decisions) for not putting out projects and not taking chances on new rappers.
Aftermath will continue to exist as long as Eminem and 50 keep making records. They are the two most popular and best-selling artists in hip hop right now. Even if they only put out an album every two years, they will still make more money for Interscope than any other hip hop labels. (another label might have 5 rappers drop in a year, but if they all go gold that's still less sales than one Em release).
What Dre should be doing right now is delegating production on 50 and Em projects to his sub producers, and spend all his focus on finding the next Em or 50 so that by the time they retire or want out of their contract he won't need them anymore.
true, 50 could still sell quite well for today's standards, but interscope wants more :laugh:
Maybe they want him to sell more but they aren't going to give up a good thing when he still sells better than anyone else. If Aftermath isn't profitable then hip hop isn't profitable.
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i think Aftermath will be around as long as Dre wants it to be around.
i also think that Bishop will eventually drop an album off of the Aftermath label.
Dre doesn't need to leave though; he can give beats to rappers & still collect bread with the forever popular Eminem.
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Bishop's involvement in Detox has changed, as he has no clue of what's going on.
so where's the "new" potential star, that will carry Detox? i don't see him/her.
Will there be a new star? Lets be honest Dres getting older, is he really gonna try and launch a new star then be there to at least support their career like he's done with Snoop and Em? I doubt it, im sure Dres more focused on just dropping the best album he can, and lets not forget its only rumoured to be around 12 tracks long so its not gonna be like 2001, and theres a gang of people who Dre will probs wanna get on his last album so will there even be any need for someone to play a Hittman role? Dres got ghostwriters in Slim, Bishop, Em, DOC and you can only fit so many features on 12 tracks
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^slim?
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LOL @ the picture placing bets
but i voted 2011, the future their aint good.
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^slim?
Slim Da Mobster
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^slim?
Slim Da Mobster
who?
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so where's the "new" potential star, that will carry Detox? i don't see him/her.
Apparently Bishop has been replaced by Slim the mobster? lol. This guy has an even less chance of blowing up then Bish.
maybe Slim the mobster is one of the reasons Detox got put on hold, lol.
well interscope could sell it's aftermath stocks & only keep Eminem + Dr.Dre signed to interscope.
other labels could buy stocks of aftermath, but who knows whether anyone is interested; that's hard to figure out right now
It's not the Aftermath name that's the problem, its Dre (or Jimmy or whoever is making the decisions) for not putting out projects and not taking chances on new rappers.
Aftermath will continue to exist as long as Eminem and 50 keep making records. They are the two most popular and best-selling artists in hip hop right now. Even if they only put out an album every two years, they will still make more money for Interscope than any other hip hop labels. (another label might have 5 rappers drop in a year, but if they all go gold that's still less sales than one Em release).
What Dre should be doing right now is delegating production on 50 and Em projects to his sub producers, and spend all his focus on finding the next Em or 50 so that by the time they retire or want out of their contract he won't need them anymore.
true, 50 could still sell quite well for today's standards, but interscope wants more :laugh:
Maybe they want him to sell more but they aren't going to give up a good thing when he still sells better than anyone else. If Aftermath isn't profitable then hip hop isn't profitable.
i know, i'm sure they can make some profit with 50's album.
Bishop's involvement in Detox has changed, as he has no clue of what's going on.
so where's the "new" potential star, that will carry Detox? i don't see him/her.
Will there be a new star? Lets be honest Dres getting older, is he really gonna try and launch a new star then be there to at least support their career like he's done with Snoop and Em? I doubt it, im sure Dres more focused on just dropping the best album he can, and lets not forget its only rumoured to be around 12 tracks long so its not gonna be like 2001, and theres a gang of people who Dre will probs wanna get on his last album so will there even be any need for someone to play a Hittman role? Dres got ghostwriters in Slim, Bishop, Em, DOC and you can only fit so many features on 12 tracks
well i just think that Dre feels that a new star is needed for Detox to carry the album.
i could be wrong.
and yes, Detox is still being anticipated, so $ is not the problem ;)
so i don't think that a new star is needed either
i think Aftermath will be around as long as Dre wants it to be around.
i also think that Bishop will eventually drop an album off of the Aftermath label.
Dre doesn't need to leave though; he can give beats to rappers & still collect bread with the forever popular Eminem.
when?
i mean, if 50 cent can't even get his album out, why would interscope give bishop the green light?
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Detox
The Reformation
All I care about on Aftermath.
Dre needs new talent.
For what? He had all the fuckin' talent in the world and did NOTHING with it! All he did was releasing wack ass Eminem and 50 Cent albums...
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Detox
The Reformation
All I care about on Aftermath.
Dre needs new talent.
For what? He had all the fuckin' talent in the world and did NOTHING with it! All he did was releasing wack ass Eminem and 50 Cent albums...
Yeah, only "thing" Dre needs is self-confidence.
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isnt bishop lamouth off aftermath?
rap radar confirmed it if im not mistaken.
why are people carrying on like hes still on aftermath?
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isnt bishop lamouth off aftermath?
rap radar confirmed it if im not mistaken.
why are people carrying on like hes still on aftermath?
maybe because people are waiting for a proper source?
+ bishop says that he's still signed.
he could be wrong, but i give him the benefit of the doubt, until there's more info
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I thought he was holding off Detox until DOC got his voice back so he could be on Detox. That's gonna be Dre's new talent right there. He's gonna produce DOC's new album after his surgery.
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I thought he was holding off Detox until DOC got his voice back so he could be on Detox. That's gonna be Dre's new talent right there. He's gonna produce DOC's new album after his surgery.
no, DOC was hoping to make Detox
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Worse comes to worse, Aftermath goes dormant like Death Row Records.We still get all the albums released still, but nothing new (possibly remix albums).
But that won't happen. Interscope's Distribution deal with Aftermath has already paid off.The Marshall Mathers LP has already secured them record numbers. Dr. Dre's Detox is possibly a new TMMPLP incarnated (In terms of Sells & Acclaimed). Since Interscope already has deals with Shady/G-Unit records, they don't truely need Aftermath Entertainment, except for 1 reason. Dr. Dre.
Dr. Dre is making more money from Production Royals not only off passed albums, but from ones hes done in recent years.Thats not even including the upfront fee it cost just to purchase the beat.
They own the biggest West Coast Label since Death Row, Detroit's main starring label (shady), and a New york Label (G-Unit) they the entire game on lock. No way would they sell or close 1, cause as long as Dr. Dre, Eminem or even 50 is attached (either by name or by brand) they know people will buy.
Edit:Bishop Lamont wasn't dropped.They already confirmed it via a video blog.
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Edit:Bishop Lamont wasn't dropped.They already confirmed it via a video blog.
Is this a new video by someone actually from Aftermath? The last video I saw was by Bishop, but people on here think he's lying for some reason.
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The end of Aftermath is near. Dre's probably serving them Kool-Aid laced with cyanide really soon.
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Why would Dre retire? Dre is a producer first and an rapper second. Dre's been producing for years and hasn't put much out hes got beats for days. Thats his passion. I don't see Dre retiring from producing he will do it till he cant anymore.
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Dr. Dre created some bomb ass shit while he was on house arrest in the 1990s, I wouldn't doubt him putting in a studio in his home, if aftermath was going to end.Also why do people want Dr. Dre, Eminem, Bishop Lamont and Aftermath (and its subsidiaries) to fail??? Do they like the bullshit rap being produce by nearly every fucking artist today??? I'm not saying the previous mention artist are only ones who do good rap (Slim sold out with that Crack a bottle as a single, which everyone does now), but why do people want Aftermath to end???.
I mean Aftermath has made 2001, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP, and is continually trying to produce great artist, so what if they don't have many acts.Who gives a fuck I'd rather have a few quality artist then loads of bullshit ones that all sound the same. In the end west coast only has The Game, Bishop, and all the originals. We barely have anyone new.The south is pumping out artist left and right, and its all generic shit, no one tries to break the mold.
or the nigga can drop detox, be a huge disappointment while Eminem raps about pills, homos, his mom and shock lyrics and be acclaimed. lol guess will see 8) 8) 8)
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Dr. Dre created some bomb ass shit while he was on house arrest in the 1990s, I wouldn't doubt him putting in a studio in his home, if aftermath was going to end.Also why do people want Dr. Dre, Eminem, Bishop Lamont and Aftermath (and its subsidiaries) to fail??? Do they like the bullshit rap being produce by nearly every fucking artist today??? I'm not saying the previous mention artist are only ones who do good rap (Slim sold out with that Crack a bottle as a single, which everyone does now), but why do people want Aftermath to end???.
I mean Aftermath has made 2001, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP, and is continually trying to produce great artist, so what if they don't have many acts.Who gives a fuck I'd rather have a few quality artist then loads of bullshit ones that all sound the same. In the end west coast only has The Game, Bishop, and all the originals. We barely have anyone new.The south is pumping out artist left and right, and its all generic shit, no one tries to break the mold.
or the nigga can drop detox, be a huge disappointment while Eminem raps about pills, homos, his mom and shock lyrics and be acclaimed. lol guess will see 8) 8) 8)
you completely misunderstood this topic: this isn't about wishes, but about predictions of the future of aftermath.
also, you're confusing commercial success with talent.
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Dre's a producer for life. He'll never be too old to produce so there's no reason for him to call it quits. He's said this in interviews.
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dubcnn aka bash Dr. Dre
I know why Suge HATES him, I kno why Pac dissed him, I Kno why Cube, and Eazy Dissed him, cause they knew him, shook hands, ate dinner, lunch, laughed joked, spent money borrowed money gave money, traded favors.................but you HATE him because of his music ?....wow your somedbody, I WANNA BE LIKE YOU !!!
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dubcnn aka bash Dr. Dre
I know why Suge HATES him, I kno why Pac dissed him, I Kno why Cube, and Eazy Dissed him, cause they knew him, shook hands, ate dinner, lunch, laughed joked, spent money borrowed money gave money, traded favors.................but you HATE him because of his music ?....wow your somedbody, I WANNA BE LIKE YOU !!!
who are you talking to?
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Dr. Dre created some bomb ass shit while he was on house arrest in the 1990s, I wouldn't doubt him putting in a studio in his home, if aftermath was going to end.Also why do people want Dr. Dre, Eminem, Bishop Lamont and Aftermath (and its subsidiaries) to fail??? Do they like the bullshit rap being produce by nearly every fucking artist today??? I'm not saying the previous mention artist are only ones who do good rap (Slim sold out with that Crack a bottle as a single, which everyone does now), but why do people want Aftermath to end???.
I mean Aftermath has made 2001, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP, and is continually trying to produce great artist, so what if they don't have many acts.Who gives a fuck I'd rather have a few quality artist then loads of bullshit ones that all sound the same. In the end west coast only has The Game, Bishop, and all the originals. We barely have anyone new.The south is pumping out artist left and right, and its all generic shit, no one tries to break the mold.
or the nigga can drop detox, be a huge disappointment while Eminem raps about pills, homos, his mom and shock lyrics and be acclaimed. lol guess will see 8) 8) 8)
you completely misunderstood this topic: this isn't about wishes, but about predictions of the future of aftermath.
also, you're confusing commercial success with talent.
No, I never talked about Talent, why the fuck would a company such as interscope give a damn about talent.They are in it for the money, because of the past success with Em, Dre, and to a lesser degree 50 cent, they have no reason to close Aftermath. Especially since people fans always hold Dr. Dre's production to high standards(some people actually just buy the album for the beat and not the artist).
Aftermath cares about Talent because Dr. Dre is running it.
Interscope gives a shit about profit. Since a few of Dr. Dre's products have been released from artist he chooses and already matched a huge amount of Critical success. Especially Money Wise.. I highly doubt they would drop him (or the math) since he's managed to build a huge portfolio of success, but again if Dr. Dre loses it then its possible they will sell off aftermath to make up some back profit. That's a course IF dre loses his flavor.
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Interscope gives a shit about profit.
i guarantee that that is false
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I'm not trying to take anything away from the artists on the label when I say this, but I don't know that I believe that Aftermath Records has ever been the force that some have professed it to be. That being said, I think Aftermath could probably continue to putt along at the rate it's been going for the last ten years, almost indefinitely. They don't really put out too many albums every year, but most of their albums have been commercially successful. It seems that Eminem's new album is enjoying some commercial success. I think if 50 Cent's next album is a hit, that will help too. But I also don't think that if it fails commercially, that it would be enough to make the company fold. To me, the only way Aftermast has to close, is if Dre chooses it to.
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I hope dre dismantels that weakass label and gets back to his western roots. Snoop Quik Kurupt Game Etc.
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I hope dre dismantels that weakass label and gets back to his western roots. Snoop Quik Kurupt Game Etc.
never gonna happen
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I hope dre dismantels that weakass label and gets back to his western roots. Snoop Quik Kurupt Game Etc.
If the nigga didn't represent during the East vs West. I highly doubt he will go all West Coast.Besides you know if he did, tupac fans will go crazy and say "Oh the nigga represents now that pac's gone" or "Bitch Nigga, still can't get with pac" He be a huge Hypocrite, consider he put together a group whos only song was denouncing the feud, and said in Multiple interviews that he didn't believe in choosing sides, the fact he Sold Tupac's OG beat for Toss it up to another group and he Left snoop and Death Row nearly in a instant.
He be fucking crazy to represent now.
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Dr. Dre created some bomb ass shit while he was on house arrest in the 1990s, I wouldn't doubt him putting in a studio in his home, if aftermath was going to end.Also why do people want Dr. Dre, Eminem, Bishop Lamont and Aftermath (and its subsidiaries) to fail??? Do they like the bullshit rap being produce by nearly every fucking artist today??? I'm not saying the previous mention artist are only ones who do good rap (Slim sold out with that Crack a bottle as a single, which everyone does now), but why do people want Aftermath to end???.
I mean Aftermath has made 2001, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP, and is continually trying to produce great artist, so what if they don't have many acts.Who gives a fuck I'd rather have a few quality artist then loads of bullshit ones that all sound the same. In the end west coast only has The Game, Bishop, and all the originals. We barely have anyone new.The south is pumping out artist left and right, and its all generic shit, no one tries to break the mold.
or the nigga can drop detox, be a huge disappointment while Eminem raps about pills, homos, his mom and shock lyrics and be acclaimed. lol guess will see 8) 8) 8)
you completely misunderstood this topic: this isn't about wishes, but about predictions of the future of aftermath.
also, you're confusing commercial success with talent.
No, I never talked about Talent, why the fuck would a company such as interscope give a damn about talent.They are in it for the money, because of the past success with Em, Dre, and to a lesser degree 50 cent, they have no reason to close Aftermath. Especially since people fans always hold Dr. Dre's production to high standards(some people actually just buy the album for the beat and not the artist).
Aftermath cares about Talent because Dr. Dre is running it.
Interscope gives a shit about profit. Since a few of Dr. Dre's products have been released from artist he chooses and already matched a huge amount of Critical success. Especially Money Wise.. I highly doubt they would drop him (or the math) since he's managed to build a huge portfolio of success, but again if Dr. Dre loses it then its possible they will sell off aftermath to make up some back profit. That's a course IF dre loses his flavor.
so you're saying that all the artists that were signed to the label at one point, are talented?
i beg to differ
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I hope dre dismantels that weakass label and gets back to his western roots. Snoop Quik Kurupt Game Etc.
If the nigga didn't represent during the East vs West. I highly doubt he will go all West Coast.Besides you know if he did, tupac fans will go crazy and say "Oh the nigga represents now that pac's gone" or "Bitch Nigga, still can't get with pac" He be a huge Hypocrite, consider he put together a group whos only song was denouncing the feud, and said in Multiple interviews that he didn't believe in choosing sides, the fact he Sold Tupac's OG beat for Toss it up to another group and he Left snoop and Death Row nearly in a instant.
He be fucking crazy to represent now.
So not taking part in Pac's dumbass crusade makes him anti-west coast? Not even Snoop took a side, that was Pac's personal vendetta there was no east vs. west, even Pac admitted that. Without Dre there would've been no west coast for Pac to represent.
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ok so Relapse' success is buying Aftermath some extra time, but i still think that interscope will sell Aftermath in the near future.
a minimal amount of aftermath projects have seen the light of the day, in the last few years.
not to mention that the roster has shrunk a lot.
also, interscope is not happy with 50 cent's singles, hence the album got pushed back several times.
all Aftermath has left is Eminem: there is no new star.
interscope wants Detox ASAP, but Dre is really taking his time so i wonder whether the company will take legal action against Dre.
i don't really know what kind of deal was made for Detox though.
so how long do you think that Aftermath will last? i've voted for 2011.
Eminem, Dre & 50 cent have placed their bets on the option that they've chosen, as you can see in this picture:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chronic_jay/20090323-emdre50.jpg)
I hope a lot longer then they actually get ya kno?
Since Em's return....I'm bumpin all my Shady Records releases.
U got some very good points... thats all I gotta say tho haha.
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ok so Relapse' success is buying Aftermath some extra time, but i still think that interscope will sell Aftermath in the near future.
a minimal amount of aftermath projects have seen the light of the day, in the last few years.
not to mention that the roster has shrunk a lot.
also, interscope is not happy with 50 cent's singles, hence the album got pushed back several times.
all Aftermath has left is Eminem: there is no new star.
interscope wants Detox ASAP, but Dre is really taking his time so i wonder whether the company will take legal action against Dre.
i don't really know what kind of deal was made for Detox though.
so how long do you think that Aftermath will last? i've voted for 2011.
Eminem, Dre & 50 cent have placed their bets on the option that they've chosen, as you can see in this picture:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chronic_jay/20090323-emdre50.jpg)
I hope a lot longer then they actually get ya kno?
Since Em's return....I'm bumpin all my Shady Records releases.
U got some very good points... thats all I gotta say tho haha.
fair enough ;)
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Dr. Dre created some bomb ass shit while he was on house arrest in the 1990s, I wouldn't doubt him putting in a studio in his home, if aftermath was going to end.Also why do people want Dr. Dre, Eminem, Bishop Lamont and Aftermath (and its subsidiaries) to fail??? Do they like the bullshit rap being produce by nearly every fucking artist today??? I'm not saying the previous mention artist are only ones who do good rap (Slim sold out with that Crack a bottle as a single, which everyone does now), but why do people want Aftermath to end???.
I mean Aftermath has made 2001, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP, and is continually trying to produce great artist, so what if they don't have many acts.Who gives a fuck I'd rather have a few quality artist then loads of bullshit ones that all sound the same. In the end west coast only has The Game, Bishop, and all the originals. We barely have anyone new.The south is pumping out artist left and right, and its all generic shit, no one tries to break the mold.
or the nigga can drop detox, be a huge disappointment while Eminem raps about pills, homos, his mom and shock lyrics and be acclaimed. lol guess will see 8) 8) 8)
you completely misunderstood this topic: this isn't about wishes, but about predictions of the future of aftermath.
also, you're confusing commercial success with talent.
No, I never talked about Talent, why the fuck would a company such as interscope give a damn about talent.They are in it for the money, because of the past success with Em, Dre, and to a lesser degree 50 cent, they have no reason to close Aftermath. Especially since people fans always hold Dr. Dre's production to high standards(some people actually just buy the album for the beat and not the artist).
Aftermath cares about Talent because Dr. Dre is running it.
Interscope gives a shit about profit. Since a few of Dr. Dre's products have been released from artist he chooses and already matched a huge amount of Critical success. Especially Money Wise.. I highly doubt they would drop him (or the math) since he's managed to build a huge portfolio of success, but again if Dr. Dre loses it then its possible they will sell off aftermath to make up some back profit. That's a course IF dre loses his flavor.
so you're saying that all the artists that were signed to the label at one point, are talented?
i beg to differ
Its not about me thinking of them as Talented, I don't give a shit about 50 Cent. I'm talking about dre. He only chooses these rappers because He thinks they have a spark. He was right with Snoop Dogg, and Eminem.Hittman had a lot of talent (He just got lost like the other artist when it came to releases).He choose 50 Cent cause he knew he would have appeal to the mainstream crowd.
So, Its not about me thinking they are talented. Its about Dre. He chooses which artist drop songs, and records with him. He made Bishop Lamont redo a bar 72 times until he got it right.If he thinks the artist has talent he'll invest Aftermath Resources into the rapper. Interscope is just distributing and gets in on it through the deal they made.
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I hope dre dismantels that weakass label and gets back to his western roots. Snoop Quik Kurupt Game Etc.
If the nigga didn't represent during the East vs West. I highly doubt he will go all West Coast.Besides you know if he did, tupac fans will go crazy and say "Oh the nigga represents now that pac's gone" or "Bitch Nigga, still can't get with pac" He be a huge Hypocrite, consider he put together a group whos only song was denouncing the feud, and said in Multiple interviews that he didn't believe in choosing sides, the fact he Sold Tupac's OG beat for Toss it up to another group and he Left snoop and Death Row nearly in a instant.
He be fucking crazy to represent now.
So not taking part in Pac's dumbass crusade makes him anti-west coast? Not even Snoop took a side, that was Pac's personal vendetta there was no east vs. west, even Pac admitted that. Without Dre there would've been no west coast for Pac to represent.
Everyone around that time was choosing sides (lots of people bought into the hype).Snoop Took pac's Side, but he said he liked Biggies muisc. Now their was no War, Just 2 groups going at it for their own reasons (Look up We don't fuck with pac fuck you part 2 mixtape to see just exactly which artist have dissed him back then, but praise his ass now and making money off his beats/fans).
Dre wasn't about representing, He was making records thats all he wanted to do, that's all he ever wanted to do.Look at The Chronic, after that he made Doggy Style's Production. Then he wasn't producing Death Row albums (he did mix a few of the tracks for the others), and was working on his own album (The Chronic 2 Poppa's got a brand new funk). When Tupac Came to Death Row and released all eyes (Dre was made to contribute 2 of his own beats for his album), Everyone went crazy. Hell It reached the 7x mark while tupac was still alive.
Then Tupac started this feud with biggie (Eventually growing and engrossing more Westcoast and East Coast artist). Dr. Dre didn't want the feud, he though the whole "war" wasn't needed.He also didn't like Death Row was starting to Degenerate from a business (well it wasn't always legit, but it was better in the beginning) to the point were it was all cliquish, Fellow artist weren't fucking with each other.Thing that pushed him over was Suge Knight assaulting a guy.
So his beat he had made for The Makaveli Album was sold to another band from another label (pissing tupac even more), he stopped all ties to Death Row and created a new Label and put together "The Firm" with artist who's only single was detesting the war. Now the fuck up part is it had Nas, and nas had dissed Tupac (you can hear em on the previous mixtape).Now everyone thought he was a traitor cause left the biggest California rap company, That was expanding (Doggystyle,Makaveli, East) into 1 of the largest empires, sold a beat he had given to Tupac, had not gone to snoops murder trial, nor even help him with his album. It be hard for him to represent considering he did all this, when everyone was representing California and he didn't want to.
Him doing it now, wouldn't be smart, and I actually don't think he cares about that sorta thing.If he had, He would of dropped something representing by now.We'll probably never see him represent California other then Cali love.
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Dr. Dre created some bomb ass shit while he was on house arrest in the 1990s, I wouldn't doubt him putting in a studio in his home, if aftermath was going to end.Also why do people want Dr. Dre, Eminem, Bishop Lamont and Aftermath (and its subsidiaries) to fail??? Do they like the bullshit rap being produce by nearly every fucking artist today??? I'm not saying the previous mention artist are only ones who do good rap (Slim sold out with that Crack a bottle as a single, which everyone does now), but why do people want Aftermath to end???.
I mean Aftermath has made 2001, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP, and is continually trying to produce great artist, so what if they don't have many acts.Who gives a fuck I'd rather have a few quality artist then loads of bullshit ones that all sound the same. In the end west coast only has The Game, Bishop, and all the originals. We barely have anyone new.The south is pumping out artist left and right, and its all generic shit, no one tries to break the mold.
or the nigga can drop detox, be a huge disappointment while Eminem raps about pills, homos, his mom and shock lyrics and be acclaimed. lol guess will see 8) 8) 8)
you completely misunderstood this topic: this isn't about wishes, but about predictions of the future of aftermath.
also, you're confusing commercial success with talent.
No, I never talked about Talent, why the fuck would a company such as interscope give a damn about talent.They are in it for the money, because of the past success with Em, Dre, and to a lesser degree 50 cent, they have no reason to close Aftermath. Especially since people fans always hold Dr. Dre's production to high standards(some people actually just buy the album for the beat and not the artist).
Aftermath cares about Talent because Dr. Dre is running it.
Interscope gives a shit about profit. Since a few of Dr. Dre's products have been released from artist he chooses and already matched a huge amount of Critical success. Especially Money Wise.. I highly doubt they would drop him (or the math) since he's managed to build a huge portfolio of success, but again if Dr. Dre loses it then its possible they will sell off aftermath to make up some back profit. That's a course IF dre loses his flavor.
so you're saying that all the artists that were signed to the label at one point, are talented?
i beg to differ
Its not about me thinking of them as Talented, I don't give a shit about 50 Cent. I'm talking about dre. He only chooses these rappers because He thinks they have a spark. He was right with Snoop Dogg, and Eminem.Hittman had a lot of talent (He just got lost like the other artist when it came to releases).He choose 50 Cent cause he knew he would have appeal to the mainstream crowd.
So, Its not about me thinking they are talented. Its about Dre. He chooses which artist drop songs, and records with him. He made Bishop Lamont redo a bar 72 times until he got it right.If he thinks the artist has talent he'll invest Aftermath Resources into the rapper. Interscope is just distributing and gets in on it through the deal they made.
he has a certain influence, but interscope has a lot more influence on aftermath than Dre.
but you're right, when it comes to Dre being concerned with success.
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this:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=241420.0
and the sales of 50 cent's latest album are good reasons to bump this topic
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It all depends on if Jimmy gets his way. Jimmy is trying really hard to shut down Aftermath... he's been trying since atleast 2008.
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It all depends on if Jimmy gets his way. Jimmy is trying really hard to shut down Aftermath... he's been trying since atleast 2008.
lol, does he want to sign Dr.Dre & Eminem directly to interscope?
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It all depends on if Jimmy gets his way. Jimmy is trying really hard to shut down Aftermath... he's been trying since atleast 2008.
lol, does he want to sign Dr.Dre & Eminem directly to interscope?
He's going to milk them for as much money as he can. You didn't hear it from me, but Dre actually owes Jimmy nearly 100 million bucks. Why do you think Dre is being pressured to get Lil' Wayne, Diddy, Fergie and the likes on DETOX?
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You didn't hear it from me, but Dre actually owes Jimmy nearly 100 million bucks.
Damn, now that's fucked up. That's why Dre is always wearin' the same clothes at every awards and events like that. Actually he was wearin' the same clothes on the "Up In Smoke" tour the whole tour. Dr. Dre is poor, that's why he sold Aftermath to Jimmy :D
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You didn't hear it from me, but Dre actually owes Jimmy nearly 100 million bucks.
Damn, now that's fucked up. That's why Dre is always wearin' the same clothes at every awards and events like that. Actually he was wearin' the same clothes on the "Up In Smoke" tour the whole tour. Dr. Dre is poor, that's why he sold Aftermath to Jimmy :D
LOL
It all depends on if Jimmy gets his way. Jimmy is trying really hard to shut down Aftermath... he's been trying since atleast 2008.
lol, does he want to sign Dr.Dre & Eminem directly to interscope?
He's going to milk them for as much money as he can. You didn't hear it from me, but Dre actually owes Jimmy nearly 100 million bucks. Why do you think Dre is being pressured to get Lil' Wayne, Diddy, Fergie and the likes on DETOX?
so there could be a lawsuit coming, it seems
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is game on it now? if that's the case it will be around a while