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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Stofy on October 18, 2002, 10:02:43 AM
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who do u think was better
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shoulda been a poll 8)
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shoulda been locked! lol! ;D
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shoulda been locked! lol! ;D
Superextralol\ :D
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Snoop Doggy Dogg '92-'95 is my favorite rapper ever but overall I would pick 2Pac.
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Hm, overall I would say 2Pac, cause Snoop kinda fell off since 1997/98. His faggot yelling is the main cause for this. But when I go with tha years from 1991 to 1996 I prolly would go with Snoop Dogg, da Gangsta Death Row Snoop Doggy Dogg from 1991 to 1995.
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2pac by far.
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Snoop, always liked his style more
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Snoop, always liked his style more
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2Pac '95-'96 was unbelievable. Can't be touch by any rapper at any era. Me Against the World, All Eyez On Me, and Makaveli were just lyrical and production masterpeaces. Snoop '92-'94 was great, one of the greatest ever, The Chronic, Doggystyle, Muder Was The Case were all classics too, but can't touch 'Pac. 'Pac was just on fire, and like it or not, the greatest hot streak in history, he was hotter than Ice Cube '91-'93, Notorious B.I.G. '94-'95, Jay-Z '96-'98 or Rakim '87-'90. 'Pac without a doubt, and younger hungrier 'Pac ('91-'94) was better than fallen Snoop ('96-2002). So overall 'Pac.
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Snoop, always liked his style more
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2Pac, easily. Its not even close. Pac was more talented lyrically, had more charisma, more classic albums, more impact/influence, wider range in subject matter, etc etc.........
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Snoop...without a doubt...he was realer than pac as far as im concerned...ive never really been a fan of pac...snoop was always better to me...and still is....
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2Pac, easily. Its not even close. Pac was more talented lyrically, had more charisma, more classic albums, more impact/influence, wider range in subject matter, etc etc.........
I can't agree about the charisma.
And concerning the influence.
Snoop had much influence with his Smooth style plus he helped to make the G Funk popular.
He improved HipHop with that.
As 4 Pac
He didn't have that much positive influence.
He his best time was too late.
And did HipHop improve since Pac's best time..?
hell naw it became worse and worse.
I'm not sayin this is Pac's fault but it's a fact so his influence couldn't be that great.
Otherwise HipHop would have improved.
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LMAO at Snoop being realer than Pac..............
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People think of 'Pac as a thug, and take what they want from him. Snoop's influence is seen with his smooth flow that Biggie couldn't match, but 'Pac did positively inpact hip-hop. 'Pac did more in terms of tracks like Dear Mama, Keep Your Head Up, Smile, Papa's Song, OK, most of Me Against the World, White Man's World. Before it was very damaging to rap to the women. When an artist did, like LL Cool J, people dissed. No one dissed 'Pac for it. Snoop of course had the G-Funk, and the smooth flow. Snoop's influence helped the art express itself, 'Pac's influence helped were the art would go.
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LMAO at Snoop being realer than Pac..............
Snoop was a gang member, a member of Rollin' 20's crips, and did 2 years in jail prior to his rap career. After fame, you don't have to keep up your rep, anyone that thinks that is just dump. 'Pac grew up political, his first rap was about gun control. 'Pac studied hip-hop, and growing up poor, 'Pac used the art he studied to express himself. Snoop used the art he knew to express his life style. In terms of realer, Snoop lived the life, 'Pac feel for the life, but never truly lived it. But 'Pac did have mad love for the ghetto, and would go to any 'hood without a crew, or vest except for the coastal wars when he wore a vest 24/7. But Snoop lived it, 'Pac repped it, there's a difference.
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Snoop for me.
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Snoop...without a doubt...he was realer than pac as far as im concerned...ive never really been a fan of pac...snoop was always better to me...and still is....
Danm!!! Homie this had to be one of the worst comment's I ever seen on WCC.
And your one of my favorite poster's on here.
How can (Run to the south) Snoop be more real than (Died a soldier....) 2pac....come on dogg.!!
Snoop is fake as fuck.....eveything he say's is a fabrication.
Pac lived and died the life.......good or not.
Pac Died "Thuglife".
I give u prop's on your moniker.... for speaking out....tho I hope u were drunk when u wrote this..
OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
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I don't think Snoop can be a Gangsta....there is a weight limit..120lbs..
LOL....
OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
I got love for Snoop...just fuckin' wit; yall'.
Danm!! it's Friday night you know a homie is Faded as fuck..
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Hatesrats 2oo2
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I don't think Snoop can be a Gangsta....there is a weight limit..120lbs..
LOL....
OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
I got love for Snoop...just fuckin' wit; yall'.
Danm!! it's Friday night you know a homie is Faded as fuck..
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Hatesrats 2oo2
LOL... figured... lets just say this, it's our first day of fall break... 'nuff said.
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snoop was dope till 96 but no limit made him weak.
so for me pac is the better fo sho.
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2Pac.....I consider him the G.O.A.T. Still got love for Snoop though, there's nobody else I would put over Snoop around the DR days other than 'Pac.
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hahaha you guys are idiots
2pac was a paper gangsta......
he wasnt anything but an act, he wasnt real. he had no criminal record before joining deathrow, he was never in a gang, he just had a big mouth
Snoop is a crip we all know that
so far as i am concerned snoop is more gangsta than 2pac
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I would prefer Snoop over Pac. I just enjoy his style of music more and think he's cooler as a person aswell.
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hahaha you guys are idiots
2pac was a paper gangsta......
he wasnt anything but an act, he wasnt real. he had no criminal record before joining deathrow, he was never in a gang, he just had a big mouth
Snoop is a crip we all know that
so far as i am concerned snoop is more gangsta than 2pac
Pac never claimed to be a gangtsa...
And Snoop is about as crip as you.
Trust me crip's don't wear Red chuck's....and or Red clothing.
This thread has become a farce....
Pac over Snoop in any and every way.
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hahaha you guys are idiots
2pac was a paper gangsta......
he wasnt anything but an act, he wasnt real. he had no criminal record before joining deathrow, he was never in a gang, he just had a big mouth
Snoop is a crip we all know that
so far as i am concerned snoop is more gangsta than 2pac
Pac never claimed to be a gangtsa...
And Snoop is about as crip as you.
Trust me crip's don't wear Red chuck's....and or Red clothing.
This thread has become a farce....
Pac over Snoop in any and every way.
you still didnt prove your point of why pac is more gangsta than snoop? (we are not talking about who is better right now)
You said 2pac is more gangster.... but i dont see how he is..... he had a house in beverly hills living near famous actors... pac was about as gangster as Ray J
Snoop, yes he is wearing red chucks or whatever in his video but that doesnt matter..... He keeps claiming rolling 60 crips or whatever, iam sure if that wasnt true he would get shot
Also he hangs out with eastsidaz and tray dee is pretty damn gangsta
Plus of course if you became rich and famous, would you still be in a gang? i doubt that
So as far as i know the facts... snoop was in a gang before.... while 2pac was doing humpty dance with digital underground
but to answer this thread...
2pac had more influence on rap and rap fans
but at same time i think if snoop died around 1994-1996 he would have just as much influence, 2pac is just remembered because of his big mouth and his thug life slogans
I give more props to BIG than 2pac though, he was big enough to make money without dissing anyone
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hahaha you guys are idiots
2pac was a paper gangsta......
he wasnt anything but an act, he wasnt real. he had no criminal record before joining deathrow, he was never in a gang, he just had a big mouth
Snoop is a crip we all know that
so far as i am concerned snoop is more gangsta than 2pac
Pac never claimed to be a gangtsa...
And Snoop is about as crip as you.
Trust me crip's don't wear Red chuck's....and or Red clothing.
This thread has become a farce....
Pac over Snoop in any and every way.
we already hit that subject , wearing red when u're a crip mean you foolin them, and what does it matters anyways, he have the right to dress how the fuck he wants like everyone else, as soon as he have his crip flag on him...
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and it'S not because snoop is a rich mutherfucka that it automaticly mean is out of the gang, when you're in a gang , you're in fo life, ya'll just don't know how it works... snoop is maybe one of the biggest crip head or a oussama bin ladden for the crip, mean he gave them money for this and that... ya'll don't know, and they always say to me that when someone don't know what he's talkin about he don'T talk at all...i respect that
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2pac by far...snoop has d0ne too much garbage(da game, last meal, doggystyle allstars)
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hahaha you guys are idiots
2pac was a paper gangsta......
he wasnt anything but an act, he wasnt real. he had no criminal record before joining deathrow, he was never in a gang, he just had a big mouth
Snoop is a crip we all know that
so far as i am concerned snoop is more gangsta than 2pac
Shooting the cops and getting off for it is REAL. Getting shot 5 times and living to tell about it is REAL. Getting charged for a crime you didnt committ, is, yes, you guessed it, REAL. And guess what?? All of this happend BEFORE he joined Death Row.
So, if you'd kindly shut your mouth and not make such retarded statements, it would be greatly appreciated. The only idiot here is YOU.
Pac was realer than Snoop ever could be.
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2pac by far...snoop has d0ne too much garbage(da game, last meal, doggystyle allstars)
ha shut up, you one of them who always have something bad to say, can't u even read the title, it's says 2pac Vs Snoop (Doggy) Dogg witch mean , i suppose, the early days of snoop dogg, and back in those days snoop was betta than pac...
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Snoop 4 me...............Just prefer his style, and to much stuff being released after Pac died is tarnishing his name, cos after "7 Day Theory" I have considered every album pretty mediocre!!!!!
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Snoop Doggy Dogg is the real GOAT....
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Pac 8
Snoop 9
If D1G1T4L is also sayin Snoop is betta than Pac (not only he's more gangsta)
But this is about who's better at all, not when Snoop was called Doggy Dogg (at least this is how most people understood it since they said 'overall Pac cause Snoop fell of' and shit.) So if it was about Snoop Doggy Dogg, he would definitely have won (right now but it ain't over yet...)
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hahaha you guys are idiots
2pac was a paper gangsta......
he wasnt anything but an act, he wasnt real. he had no criminal record before joining deathrow, he was never in a gang, he just had a big mouth
Snoop is a crip we all know that
so far as i am concerned snoop is more gangsta than 2pac
Shooting the cops and getting off for it is REAL. Getting shot 5 times and living to tell about it is REAL. Getting charged for a crime you didnt committ, is, yes, you guessed it, REAL. And guess what?? All of this happend BEFORE he joined Death Row.
So, if you'd kindly shut your mouth and not make such retarded statements, it would be greatly appreciated. The only idiot here is YOU.
/me gives hellrazor the nod.
Seriously though, 'Pac was too deep and intelligent for some people to appreciate, he was more than some petty street rapper, he was a true artist with very important views that anyone with an open mind could benefit from.
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definatly snoop
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Snoop...without a doubt...he was realer than pac as far as im concerned...ive never really been a fan of pac...snoop was always better to me...and still is....
Danm!!! Homie this had to be one of the worst comment's I ever seen on WCC.
And your one of my favorite poster's on here.
How can (Run to the south) Snoop be more real than (Died a soldier....) 2pac....come on dogg.!!
Snoop is fake as fuck.....eveything he say's is a fabrication.
Pac lived and died the life.......good or not.
Pac Died "Thuglife".
I give u prop's on your moniker.... for speaking out....tho I hope u were drunk when u wrote this..
OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
na i wasnt drunk...lemme explain...to me ur not real when u were born in ny and raised in baltimore...then move to marin city and rep oakland and l.a. to the death....pac never repped ny, b-more or marin to the fullest...that shit was always fake to me...its like shunning his past...snoop repped lbc...and still does(tho he probably dont go there no more)....snoop didnt claim to be this big time g or big time drug dealer....he was always just like ima g and thats that....but pac made it seem as if he was this super thug...when in reality pac wasnt on that gangster tip til he hit deathrow....which is another reason i think hes fake....also...when pac said "this is not my real life..." i thought damn this foo is just straight up sayin hes fakin.....
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pac
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Someone just go to ohhla.com and compare lyrics. Then after that, you tell me.
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Someone just go to ohhla.com and compare lyrics. Then after that, you tell me.
Exactly.....Snoop's lyric's comparied to Pac's are like a genius to a Retarted kid...
Snoop is way out of it.
I love Snoop But he is in no way anything coming close to 2pac....period.
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Tupac isnt the most talented lyrical MC, but he's lightyears ahead of Snoop. Doggystyle is one of my fav albums ever [I could care less about any of his other albums], but I like that album strictly for his flow and the production, since every song is hot. But lyrically, its average as fuck. Listen to that album, than throw on any of Pac's albums [especially Makaveli], and its like going from grade school to College.
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yeah but if I like some music more than other music I can't do nothin about that. Doggystyle is definatly betta than any pac album to me, the flow the production, the style. And how is 2Pac considered the GOAT if it was only about lyrics? obviesly u don't care only about lyrics neither since Pac ain't the best lyricst.
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'Pac's not the great lyrist. That's like say Barry Bonds is not a great home run hitter. Early 'Pac, not really, as he wrote for more emotions and content. Death Row 'Pac, that muthaphukka was raw lyrically, and Makaveli, All Eyez On Me proved it. Like early Barry Bond, get all around game, but not a home run hitter, 'Pac had the flow, charisma, and content, but the big hitting lyrics weren't there. After signing with Death Row, that muthaphukka was hitting. Listen to Got My Mind Made Up, Blasphemy, Against All Odds, Bomb First, No More Pain, Ambitionz Az a Ridah, Me and My Girlfriend (which a gun for a girl was jus straight classic then). Just 'cause 'Pac wasn't throwing out blind lyricals like most emcees, doesn't mean he ain't got lyricals. He actually used lyricals to make a song with content, added to his game the same way Barry added more home run power to add to his already great game. So don't trip if you ain't feeling 'Pac, his better than Snoop.
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To the ones talking about who's 'real' and who's 'fake', it depends on what you consider to be real and what you consider to be fake at the end of the day. To me 'Pac was real because he spoke his mind, he had strong views and 90% of the time they were what I consider to be the truth. He was amazingly intelligent and he spoke on some of the most important things that go on in this world, stuff that most people ignore, he was the voice for the people who never got heard, people in society that are basically ignored. I don't give a fuck if he moved around from the east to the west during his younger days, that doesn't matter 'cos at the end of the day he always said he felt the west is where his heart was, thats real to me.
Snoop on the other hand, i'm not gonna say he is fake because I don't think he is, but compared to 2Pac he really doesn't measure up to being an important figure for me personally, I mean I love his music and he entertains me and I respect alot of the things he's achieved in his career, I do consider myself to be a pretty big fan but 2Pac was and is so much more of an important figure/icon not only to music but to life in general imo.
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'Pac's not the great lyrist. That's like say Barry Bonds is not a great home run hitter. Early 'Pac, not really, as he wrote for more emotions and content. Death Row 'Pac, that muthaphukka was raw lyrically, and Makaveli, All Eyez On Me proved it. Like early Barry Bond, get all around game, but not a home run hitter, 'Pac had the flow, charisma, and content, but the big hitting lyrics weren't there. After signing with Death Row, that muthaphukka was hitting. Listen to Got My Mind Made Up, Blasphemy, Against All Odds, Bomb First, No More Pain, Ambitionz Az a Ridah, Me and My Girlfriend (which a gun for a girl was jus straight classic then). Just 'cause 'Pac wasn't throwing out blind lyricals like most emcees, doesn't mean he ain't got lyricals. He actually used lyricals to make a song with content, added to his game the same way Barry added more home run power to add to his already great game. So don't trip if you ain't feeling 'Pac, his better than Snoop.
Did ya read my post?
I said he's not the BEST, means he's definatly not the best ever. It doesn't mean he's not good.
So if it was only about Lyrics pac can't be the GOAT like u or many others consider him since there still betta lyricists.
But it's NOT only about lyrics and that's why Snoop can be betta than Pac even when Pac's lyrics are betta.
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'Pac's not the great lyrist. That's like say Barry Bonds is not a great home run hitter. Early 'Pac, not really, as he wrote for more emotions and content. Death Row 'Pac, that muthaphukka was raw lyrically, and Makaveli, All Eyez On Me proved it. Like early Barry Bond, get all around game, but not a home run hitter, 'Pac had the flow, charisma, and content, but the big hitting lyrics weren't there. After signing with Death Row, that muthaphukka was hitting. Listen to Got My Mind Made Up, Blasphemy, Against All Odds, Bomb First, No More Pain, Ambitionz Az a Ridah, Me and My Girlfriend (which a gun for a girl was jus straight classic then). Just 'cause 'Pac wasn't throwing out blind lyricals like most emcees, doesn't mean he ain't got lyricals. He actually used lyricals to make a song with content, added to his game the same way Barry added more home run power to add to his already great game. So don't trip if you ain't feeling 'Pac, his better than Snoop.
Did ya read my post?
I said he's not the BEST, means he's definatly not the best ever. It doesn't mean he's not good.
So if it was only about Lyrics pac can't be the GOAT like u or many others consider him since there still betta lyricists.
But it's NOT only about lyrics and that's why Snoop can be betta than Pac even when Pac's lyrics are betta.
tru dat... ..
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it ain't about pac betta lyricist period shit.... it depend what u feel about lyrics, if u like methaphors, sure u gonna prefer pac, but if u like the double end rhymes like snoop do u gonna prefer snoop over pac, pac can have some great methaphor but if people can't understand them , whats the deal, cause he's call pac , he's the greatest for most of ya'll without question, that ain't no good psycology
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Always liked snoop better.
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Oh, and in snoop's defense, he's twice as good at lyricism as he was on Doggystyle, today. Listen to "We Gon Handle It" from that leaked stuff from paid the cost, he's rapping about kids growing up in the ghetto... listen to that Love song he made for his wife, where he's telling stories about how they met and has Janet Jackson sampled onto the hook, listen to the story he tells about that girl wanting to make a porno in "It's the D.O.G." ... he's really really steppin up his lyrical game, and he still remains one of the best storytelling rappers around.