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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Mr. VIP on June 04, 2009, 07:42:42 AM
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
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its true he's the only keepin the west relevent in hip hop. He really does need to take Ya Boy under his wing and put him out.
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its true he's the only keepin the west relevent in hip hop. He really does need to take Ya Boy under his wing and put him out.
his needs to put his own artists out first, but yer hes the only mainstream artist doin numbrs and shinin.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
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This all thanks to The Game Jimmy Iovine.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
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This all thanks to The Game Jimmy Iovine.
Yup, without Jimmy - we wouldn't have The Chronic which lead to The Game many years later. ;D
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Games been holdin it down on the underground since 04' droppin mixtapes and is the only rapper since snoop to be pushin 10 mil units on the mainstream level.....He's opened the door for numerous up and coming artists....and still gets hated on....shit I remember the late 90's when the west coast didn't have shit poppin....Pac died, Cube focused on movies, Snoop ran down south and Mack 10 at that time was the only one holdin it down (and thats not saying much) with Hoo-Bangin. Westcoasters should respect the King.
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lmao wasnt Dre the one that put the Game on? And yer hes represented the west but has hardly done much to boost the careers of other up and coming west coast acts. Signing them to a label that only drops mixtapes and then never featuring them on your albums doesnt really do much. Juices buzz is almost none existent, Nipsey builts his own buzz, Clyde carson had a couple hot songs back in 06 but has had hardly any other spins.
People hate on Snoops contribution to the west but he does wayyyyyy more.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
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dont forget about Bishop Lamont!
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
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fuck that dude, 30 something year old jsut gettin started, he shud be tryna get out..
dont forget about Bishop Lamont!
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lmao wasnt Dre the one that put the Game on? And yer hes represented the west but has hardly done much to boost the careers of other up and coming west coast acts. Signing them to a label that only drops mixtapes and then never featuring them on your albums doesnt really do much. Juices buzz is almost none existent, Nipsey builts his own buzz, Clyde carson had a couple hot songs back in 06 but has had hardly any other spins.
People hate on Snoops contribution to the west but he does wayyyyyy more.
I am now a big fan of nipsey but who really payed attention to Nipsey before "They Roll"?
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i think you are wrong.
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Game deserves credit for breaking out alot of these new west cats there is no denying that
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hahaha how is the west coast "saved" by game? because theres a bunch of shitty rappers who will never release albums who got some exposure through another shitty but famous rapper
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hahaha how is the west coast "saved" by game? because theres a bunch of shitty rappers who will never release albums who got some exposure through another shitty but famous rapper
lol.
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Actually Game rode 50's coat tails on that first album.
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THE GAME CURED CANCER TOO
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THE GAME CURED CANCER TOO
and aids too bad he was too late for eazy e
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Maybe I am in the minority when I say this, but The Documentary is grossly overrated to me. But gotta agree other than Snoop, 40 Water and Cube, Game has been the one doing it big out West.
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Aside from Juice, I heard most of those artists without the help of the game
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
Your karma will be -454 by the weekend :D
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
Your karma will be -454 by the weekend :D
lol 908 point swing.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
back to bumpin' the black wall street journal vol.1
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fuck that dude, 30 something year old jsut gettin started, he shud be tryna get out..
dont forget about Bishop Lamont!
who?
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
Your karma will be -454 by the weekend :D
LOL, i know. :-\
but it's true, so i'd rather get the truth across than let this thread mislead the good folk of the Dub lol.
Aside from Juice, I heard most of those artists without the help of the game
true, but what people don't understand is that people on this board know those guys; people who follow westcoast rap know those guys.
but you ask the average hip-hop fan who half of the guys on the westcoast & nobody has a clue.
i know people who "follow" rap, listen to music; a little underground & they have no idea who Crooked I is & he is more popular than everybody mentioned in the thread-creator's post.
few know Jay Rock, but the ones who do only know him because All My Life got some play on the radio because of Wayne.
Game hasn't saved much if you really look at it lmao.
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
Your karma will be -454 by the weekend :D
LOL, i know. :-\
but it's true, so i'd rather get the truth across than let this thread mislead the good folk of the Dub lol.
Aside from Juice, I heard most of those artists without the help of the game
true, but what people don't understand is that people on this board know those guys; people who follow westcoast rap know those guys.
but you ask the average hip-hop fan who half of the guys on the westcoast & nobody has a clue.
i know people who "follow" rap, listen to music; a little underground & they have no idea who Crooked I is & he is more popular than everybody mentioned in the thread-creator's post.
few know Jay Rock, but the ones who do only know him because All My Life got some play on the radio because of Wayne.
Game hasn't saved much if you really look at it lmao.
U diggin a hole for yaself Cham lol. Nah I hear what you saying man. Game is a touchy subject for most in this section. I thought I was going to get the RadioTube treatment when I made a joke about Game calling his next album the R.E.D. album.
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the game sucks
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
I agree but I also agree that Game helped out a lot of the young cats. He probably could have done more (like actually turn BWS into a label) but at this point, nobody else is really stepping up to the plate.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
back to bumpin' the black wall street journal vol.1
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I was listening to Clyde Carson way before he signed with Black Wall Street. Made much noise with The Team.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
back to bumpin' the black wall street journal vol.1
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I was listening to Clyde Carson way before he signed with Black Wall Street. Made much noise with The Team.
yep i stopped listening to him when he went with hte game haha
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
back to bumpin' the black wall street journal vol.1
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I was listening to Clyde Carson way before he signed with Black Wall Street. Made much noise with The Team.
see there u go i never had heard of clyde carson before he was on that mixtape same as ya boy maybe because i dont care much for the bay area except maybe yukmouth but game damn sure took those dudes to another level by featuring them on his mixtapes i think we all agreed that no one knew who the fuck nipsey was before "they roll" that cypha track introduced a lot of people to new mc's on the west...
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
back to bumpin' the black wall street journal vol.1
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I was listening to Clyde Carson way before he signed with Black Wall Street. Made much noise with The Team.
yep i stopped listening to him when he went with hte game haha
haha same here. 2 Step and Doin That are commercial songs. Clyde was puttin out fire before that.
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I can't deny Game's success as an artist and he's been a big blessing for the West but if you believe this "by his self" shit, then you are the kind of cat that can be tricked by the power of suggestion. You either aren't a real fan of the guy and know nothing of his history or you're so buried in believing this shit that you wouldn't know otherwise anyway. Between JT The Bigga Figga, Big Fase 100, Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Jimmy Henchman, Jimmy Iovine, Game was nowhere near by himself during his rise to the top of the charts. Game would not be where he was if he wasn't talented or hard-working. Let's not take any of this as a knock on him or what he does but his first record was built off the strength of his G-Unit affiliation and being a proetge of Dr. Dre. Anyone can say differently when they are in a more comfortable spot and capable of eating on their own but he wasn't someone like Busta Rhymes who came into Aftermath with an established fan base of his own. Is any of this a bad thing? No. Just don't try and change the story to incorporate his "single-handedly" doing anything.
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I can't deny Game's success as an artist and he's been a big blessing for the West but if you believe this "by his self" shit, then you are the kind of cat that can be tricked by the power of suggestion. You either aren't a real fan of the guy and know nothing of his history or you're so buried in believing this shit that you wouldn't know otherwise anyway. Between JT The Bigga Figga, Big Fase 100, Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Jimmy Henchman, Jimmy Iovine, Game was nowhere near by himself during his rise to the top of the charts. Game would not be where he was if he wasn't talented or hard-working. Let's not take any of this as a knock on him or what he does but his first record was built off the strength of his G-Unit affiliation and being a proetge of Dr. Dre. Anyone can say differently when they are in a more comfortable spot and capable of eating on their own but he wasn't someone like Busta Rhymes who came into Aftermath with an established fan base of his own. Is any of this a bad thing? No. Just don't try and change the story to incorporate his "single-handedly" doing anything.
That is real spit. I think game is a good rapper, but there is are reasons why he's not championed in the streets. He's taking credit of alot of people and not shouting them back.
He had alot of help on the way and a few were left with an empty hand shake.
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
Your karma will be -454 by the weekend :D
LOL, i know. :-\
but it's true, so i'd rather get the truth across than let this thread mislead the good folk of the Dub lol.
Aside from Juice, I heard most of those artists without the help of the game
true, but what people don't understand is that people on this board know those guys; people who follow westcoast rap know those guys.
but you ask the average hip-hop fan who half of the guys on the westcoast & nobody has a clue.
i know people who "follow" rap, listen to music; a little underground & they have no idea who Crooked I is & he is more popular than everybody mentioned in the thread-creator's post.
few know Jay Rock, but the ones who do only know him because All My Life got some play on the radio because of Wayne.
Game hasn't saved much if you really look at it lmao.
U diggin a hole for yaself Cham lol. Nah I hear what you saying man. Game is a touchy subject for most in this section. I thought I was going to get the RadioTube treatment when I made a joke about Game calling his next album the R.E.D. album.
i hope such thoughts don't limit the content of your comments ;)
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Never that Dre Day, I am going to be D~Nice at the end of the day, speaking my mind. You know how sensitive people get about Game. :D
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How many west coast rappers have significantly benefited of Game's success? Answer = 0
Off topic but I don't understand why European wiggers are so obsessed with this "saving the west coast" & "resurrecting g-funk" thing.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
back to bumpin' the black wall street journal vol.1
8)
I was listening to Clyde Carson way before he signed with Black Wall Street. Made much noise with The Team.
yep i stopped listening to him when he went with hte game haha
haha
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Aside from Juice, I heard most of those artists without the help of the game
and BWS Juice is mad wack...no point in listening to his simple rhymes
MC Juice on the other hand, he rips shit up
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Never that Dre Day, I am going to be D~Nice at the end of the day, speaking my mind. You know how sensitive people get about Game. :D
hehehe, that's good to know 8)
yeah i know what you mean: that's why i'm doing everything i can to encourage honesty ;)
How many west coast rappers have significantly benefited of Game's success? Answer = 0
Off topic but I don't understand why European wiggers are so obsessed with this "saving the west coast" & "resurrecting g-funk" thing.
trust me, that is not only coming from Europeans....
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Aside from Juice, I heard most of those artists without the help of the game
and BWS Juice is mad wack...no point in listening to his simple rhymes
MC Juice on the other hand, he rips shit up
is that u Hack Wilson?
Juice from Chicago right?
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I'd just say Game opened doors, that's what Jay Rock & many of these new west artists say too. Game co-signing a new west artists just gives a little more publicity to a rapper but to get a record deal rapper has to have some talent (Or at least I'd like to hope so :D)
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How many west coast rappers have significantly benefited of Game's success? Answer = 0
Off topic but I don't understand why European wiggers are so obsessed with this "saving the west coast" & "resurrecting g-funk" thing.
People act like the west coast wasn't doing shit before The Game came out and that Game putting out a mainstream album produced by Dre somehow saved the coast. But the truth is everyone was doing their thing. Hell, the Game was doing his thing before Dre gave him the push to go mainstream. None of the rappers on Black Wall Street have blown up. Let me know when they do and then I'll start giving The Game some props.
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if it wasn't for 50 & Dre, you wouldn't know who Game is.
you can hate on them all you want, but it's true & there is no denying that.
I agree but I also agree that Game helped out a lot of the young cats. He probably could have done more (like actually turn BWS into a label) but at this point, nobody else is really stepping up to the plate.
i feel you on that point (NO HOMO). :P
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Game didnt do it by his self.50 cent had a lot to do with that.If it wasnt for 50 cent game wouldnt be where hes at.so im a say 50 cent and game saved the westcoast.but snoop and cube kept the west mainstream,u cant forget that.
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damn i just realized if it wasn't for game we wouldnt even know or really care about: glasses malone, ya boy, clyde carson, juice, nipsey hussle, jay rock, k. dat, dubb, topic just to name a few. dude deserves more credit if he had his business shit right he probably could have all these guys under bws but we know game is horrible when it comes to promoting his label & artist...
back to bumpin' the black wall street journal vol.1
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Fuck off man. All those guys you just mentioned, no one cares about, and none of them are big, will be big, will help put the west coast on the map, or be successful even in a minor sense. Their nobodies. And their not very talented either. Thanks to the Game a half dozen mediocre artists are well known by a very small number of west coast fans. That's all he did. He didn't help their careers, as none of them have careers.
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fuck him. he should've done something together with eastwood and tech with that MOBB stuff. I'm really disappointed that that didn't go through.
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omg thnks game ur the best rapper omg ur so real. omg thnks for bringin the west back omg thnks!
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omg thnks game ur the best rapper omg ur so real. omg thnks for bringin the west back omg thnks!
omg rofl!
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Game haters, go kill yourselves asap pls.
whos the biggest hiphop artist in the west during the past few years?
who put the west back in the map in the past few years?
deep down inside ur haters' hearts u know the answer is Game.
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The success of The Documentary opened doors for the West Coast. That's the truth. None of these "New West" rappers would have major record deals without the success of that album. The credit shouldn't go to Game though because Dre's co-sign and his alignment with G-Unit at their peak also helped.
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Game haters, go kill yourselves asap pls.
whos the biggest hiphop artist in the west during the past few years?
who put the west back in the map in the past few years?
deep down inside ur haters' hearts u know the answer is Game.
I agree that The Game has been the biggest thing out of the West in awhile but in terms of saving the West or putting it back on the map, nobody has done that. The West is in the same situation that it has always been. He deserves his props for holding down the West like he does but to say that anyone saved the West Coast is a ridiculous statement because there hasn't been a drastic change. There were temporary attempts to capitalize off the buzz created by his success but what concrete changes came about? Since Game's album dropped, Dre still hasn't put out Detox, Death Row went out of business, the other big West Coast act on G-Unit (Spider Loc) hasn't released an album yet, Crooked I's album is still unreleased, Eastwood's album is still unreleased. Just about every up and coming artist on the West has yet to put out their projects. Even Game himself hasn't found the right deal for Black Wall Street. More over so, there is a very clear division in the West between the veterans and the young guys who are waiting to get on.
Now, I ain't saying that Game is responsible for all of this but still to say he saved the West Coast or put back on the map is a bit of a bold statement given the current condition of West Coast rap. I'd say his success was a very good look and went a long way but that was winning a battle. The war is still going on. You have to give him his props in that department.
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game could have also had tech, eastwood, and young life on his label
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I give game his props for claiming the west but that's where it stops.
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Game haters, go kill yourselves asap pls.
whos the biggest hiphop artist in the west during the past few years?
who put the west back in the map in the past few years?
deep down inside ur haters' hearts u know the answer is Game.
Dude shut up you moron. The west is not back on the map. Which other west coast artist has been successful in the last 3 years? That's right. What artists has Game made successful. None. OK kid. The facts are a powerful tool.
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^^^LOL....Game is that nigga....he got u fags mad at'em.....LOL......Keep the hate going bitches(remember hate is a cry out for help)..... RED Album dropping soon.......
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^^^LOL....Game is that nigga....he got u fags mad at'em.....LOL......Keep the hate going bitches(remember hate is a cry out for help)..... RED Album dropping soon.......
st-st-st-stanning hard!
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^^^LOL....Game is that nigga....he got u fags mad at'em.....LOL......Keep the hate going bitches(remember hate is a cry out for help)..... RED Album dropping soon.......
st-st-st-stanning hard!
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^^^LOL....Game is that nigga....he got u fags mad at'em.....LOL......Keep the hate going bitches(remember hate is a cry out for help)..... RED Album dropping soon.......
I'm not mad at Game, I'm mad at all his moronic fans, much like you. Grow up kid and get an education, instead of being some bottom feeder.
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^^^LOL....Game is that nigga....he got u fags mad at'em.....LOL......Keep the hate going bitches(remember hate is a cry out for help)..... RED Album dropping soon.......
I'm not mad at Game, I'm mad at all his moronic fans, much like you. Grow up kid and get an education, instead of being some bottom feeder.
That's some female shit right there......Why are you mad at Game fans...LOL....what I eat or they eat don't make you shit....so tell me why u mad son?? Why are your feelings hurt?? How do you know I don't have an eduaction?? What makes me a bottom feeder? ...please enlighten me with your wealth of knowledge and wisdom....I crave.
and your 22 telling me to grow up....lol wow I will never understand generation bitch made.....I bet you wear tight pants and get yo jerk on too...lol
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Game has done a lot of really good shit for the Westcoast like giving Young Life, K Dot, Jay Rock G Malone, Dubb, Ya Boy, Juice, etc a chance to be heard by larger crowds and he should definitely be praised for that but to say he "saved" the West Coast is absurd.
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Game has done a lot of really good shit for the Westcoast like giving Young Life, K Dot, Jay Rock G Malone, Dubb, Ya Boy, Juice, etc a chance to be heard by larger crowds and he should definitely be praised for that but to say he "saved" the West Coast is absurd.
Yeah I agree with that....but I'm sure you remember the down years 97' to 04'....we had no new west coast MC's making an impact on a commercial level....it almost seemed like the coast was blackballed from the game outside of Dre and Snoop....so I feel you on game not really saving the west but the fact is Based on sales he did give this muthaphucka mouth mouth(as far as a new artists).....and hopefully Jay Rock, Glasses and Nipsey can continue that success if they ever drop.
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Game stans have just proved there dickriders & idiots lmao.
as The King said, the West is NOT back on the map, i don't know if you listen to the radio or anything.
the West has no hype as i already said; maybe underground they do, but not mainstream; no average hip hop fan knows about any of the New West rappers.
most importantly Game's success is 100% from Dre & 50 lmao.
Game would be just like the rest of the New West artists now if he never got his chance on Aftermath.
The Documentary put Game on the map, not the westcoast & whose responsible for The Documentary? Dr. Dre & 50 Cent.
that's not even "hatin'" (because you know, when you go against something on this board, your a hater lol ::)), those are just straight up facts lol.
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Without Game most of the younger hip hop audience would think the west is just SNoop and Dre................................... and really it still is
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Without Game most of the younger hip hop audience would think the west is just SNoop and Dre................................... and really it still is
hell yeah it's just Snoop & Dre; Game raps strictly about them in every song lol.
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I will give Game credit post Aftermath/G Unit. He has stayed on the grind putting out material since then.
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I will give Game credit post Aftermath/G Unit. He has stayed on the grind putting out material since then.
no doubt, he put out a dope album in D.A., but my whole thing is that without Dre giving him his chance on Aftermath & putting him on the map & getting him a mainstream fanbase he would be in the same position as Jay Rock.
without all those tracks with 50, back when he was loved by everybody, he wouldn't even have an album to his name lol.
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I will give Game credit post Aftermath/G Unit. He has stayed on the grind putting out material since then.
no doubt, he put out a dope album in D.A., but my whole thing is that without Dre giving him his chance on Aftermath & putting him on the map & getting him a mainstream fanbase he would be in the same position as Jay Rock.
without all those tracks with 50, back when he was loved by everybody, he wouldn't even have an album to his name lol.
True, but post all that I will still give him credit for his work. Also props to Snoop, 40 and Cube as well.
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Yeah I agree with that....but I'm sure you remember the down years 97' to 04'....we had no new west coast MC's making an impact on a commercial level....it almost seemed like the coast was blackballed from the game outside of Dre and Snoop....
I remember differently. There was way more West Coast influence in the music scene from '97 to 2000 than there ever was in any post-Game year. If you look after "2001" and the subsequent Up In Smoke Tour, the West was eating. Xzibit and Eastsidaz had platinum albums with hit singles on both radio and video (MTV/BET). Daz was conquering the independent game even though he and Snoop weren't working with each other at the moment. Mack 10 had his own label and was doing fairly well. People like Ras Kass, Knoc-Turn'al, Jayo Felony, Mausberg, and others were having projects being pushed through major labels. I'd say 1999-2000 in particular was one of the most diverse times from a regional perspective for hip-hop since 1994. Every region had something going on. You could certainly argue that the people out West eating the best were from the Dre-Snoop camps but last time I checked, Game grew from that tree.
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Yeah I agree with that....but I'm sure you remember the down years 97' to 04'....we had no new west coast MC's making an impact on a commercial level....it almost seemed like the coast was blackballed from the game outside of Dre and Snoop....
I remember differently. There was way more West Coast influence in the music scene from '97 to 2000 than there ever was in any post-Game year. If you look after "2001" and the subsequent Up In Smoke Tour, the West was eating. Xzibit and Eastsidaz had platinum albums with hit singles on both radio and video (MTV/BET). Daz was conquering the independent game even though he and Snoop weren't working with each other at the moment. Mack 10 had his own label and was doing fairly well. People like Ras Kass, Knoc-Turn'al, Jayo Felony, Mausberg, and others were having projects being pushed through major labels. I'd say 1999-2000 in particular was one of the most diverse times from a regional perspective for hip-hop since 1994. Every region had something going on. You could certainly argue that the people out West eating the best were from the Dre-Snoop camps but last time I checked, Game grew from that tree.
Yea ...between 99-01 we had some qualty albums drop which where Co-signed by (DR. DRE and Snoop) albums like Xzibits, Kurupt's, tha eastsidaz, Snoops last meal and of course Dr Dre's Chronic 2001 which was supposed to catapolt a lot of the new talent at that time. if you didn't have a stamp from them you wasn't getting much play. Mack 10 did also hold it down by putting out records but they weren't having any real commercial success(Mc eight, CJ Mac, Technic was supposed to drop but it never cracked) that's why he did the deal with Cash Money because he was losing money on those projects. Your right people like Rass Kass, Knoc-Turn'al, Jay Felony and Mausberg was supposed to carry the torch but Rass didn't do the numbers he was supposed to do on Rassassination, Dre fucked up by not putting out Knoc's and Hitman records....Jayo started beefing wit Jay-z and Snoop wasn't cosigning that shit.....and of course after that Connected project Mausberg was tragically murdered. What I was saying was that there was NO NEW west coast artists having a major impact at that time.....all of the artists you mentioned had already been in the game(Snoop and Dre brought it back for a second). The west coast had a much bigger impact early on in the late 80's and early 90's.....shit wit ran 90 to 96' IMO.....we brought new sounds to the game during that time frame...from the creation of gangsta rap to the G-Funk we was running the game. The east coast had fell off a little bit that's why Biggie got a lot of credit for brining it back.
Also your right a lot of cats was on there independent grind especially in the Bay Cats like E-40, Jt the Bigga Figga(That's who taught Daz the Indy game), Mac Mall, C-Bo.....but again I was talking about commercial success and appeal.
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Game haters, go kill yourselves asap pls.
whos the biggest hiphop artist in the west during the past few years?
who put the west back in the map in the past few years?
deep down inside ur haters' hearts u know the answer is Game.
Dude shut up you moron. The west is not back on the map. Which other west coast artist has been successful in the last 3 years? That's right. What artists has Game made successful. None. OK kid. The facts are a powerful tool.
wow homie. ur a completely idiot. Game is not responsible for any1's success. ur blaming Game for the fact that other westcoast artists are not success. think about it, as of today, if ur from other places and talk about the westcoast, 10 people out of 10 are gonna mention Game. He keeps the West relevant in the hiphop world. without game, probably most of the hip hop fans from the world wont even mention the westcoast.
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2001 brought the west back for a little while. The Game didn't bring anything back except himself. Last I checked no west coast rappers got any push out of The Documentary. You can argue that The Game putting rappers on Black Wall Street got them notice, but I can argue that no one outside of the people on this forum knows who they are. Y'all are talking like these rappers have blown up. When one of these rappers starts getting some airplay and starts selling some records, then I will give Game his props.
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Game stans have just proved there dickriders & idiots lmao.
as The King said, the West is NOT back on the map, i don't know if you listen to the radio or anything.
the West has no hype as i already said; maybe underground they do, but not mainstream; no average hip hop fan knows about any of the New West rappers.
most importantly Game's success is 100% from Dre & 50 lmao.
Game would be just like the rest of the New West artists now if he never got his chance on Aftermath.
The Documentary put Game on the map, not the westcoast & whose responsible for The Documentary? Dr. Dre & 50 Cent.
that's not even "hatin'" (because you know, when you go against something on this board, your a hater lol ::)), those are just straight up facts lol.
and if u agree with something then ur a stan and a dick rider? that phrase is getting old homie.
"stan" and "dick rider" are over used by u and every1 on the net.
damn homie, its funny how u come to every thread about Game and start calling Game's fan stans and dickriders. get a life pls.
Game's success doesnt come from Dre and 50. no1 is gonna make u success but urself. be smart and think about it a little.
sure Game got helps from Dre and 50 but he makes his own music. his skills and talents are what make him success in the music industry. (u can put lucky in there as well.)
for example, if u get help from Dre and 50 but u got no talent in making music then for sure ur not gonna be success.
homie u gotta give Game props for what he had accomplished as a hiphop artist and his contribution to the Westcoast.
if u can't acknowledge Game's talent and his contribution to the westcoast then ur not a hiphop fan. and u dont deserve to be one.
I agree with saying "game saved the westcoast" is a wrong term to use. but Game did his parts for the west. give him his props.
also dre and 50 are not responsible for the documentary. Game is, he made that album with the help of 50 and Dre. get it straight. the fact that dre and 50 helped him doesnt make them responsible for the album.
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Game stans have just proved there dickriders & idiots lmao.
as The King said, the West is NOT back on the map, i don't know if you listen to the radio or anything.
the West has no hype as i already said; maybe underground they do, but not mainstream; no average hip hop fan knows about any of the New West rappers.
most importantly Game's success is 100% from Dre & 50 lmao.
Game would be just like the rest of the New West artists now if he never got his chance on Aftermath.
The Documentary put Game on the map, not the westcoast & whose responsible for The Documentary? Dr. Dre & 50 Cent.
that's not even "hatin'" (because you know, when you go against something on this board, your a hater lol ::)), those are just straight up facts lol.
I waited for 3 years
While everyone else dropped
;)
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2001 brought the west back for a little while. The Game didn't bring anything back except himself. Last I checked no west coast rappers got any push out of The Documentary. You can argue that The Game putting rappers on Black Wall Street got them notice, but I can argue that no one outside of the people on this forum knows who they are. Y'all are talking like these rappers have blown up. When one of these rappers starts getting some airplay and starts selling some records, then I will give Game his props.
But isn't game from the west coast? So putting himself on and doing major numbers for a new artists put the spotlight back on the coast.... So I agree he didn't necessarily put anyone on by putting an album out but people didn't pay attention to Jay Rock, KDot, Juice or Ya Boyt until game gave them shine on Blackwallstreets Journal Vol. 1...hell if you listen to K.Dot's track "last real nigga alive" he said it started for them with the Documentary...hate it or love it.....game was the first person to take them on tour and give them exposure(playing his part)...just like he did this year with Nipsey....Game hasn't put out a record for anyone(because he's a horrible CEO) but he has given people the opportunity to shine on mixtapes.
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2001 brought the west back for a little while. The Game didn't bring anything back except himself. Last I checked no west coast rappers got any push out of The Documentary. You can argue that The Game putting rappers on Black Wall Street got them notice, but I can argue that no one outside of the people on this forum knows who they are. Y'all are talking like these rappers have blown up. When one of these rappers starts getting some airplay and starts selling some records, then I will give Game his props.
But isn't game from the west coast? So putting himself on and doing major numbers for a new artists put the spotlight back on the coast.... So I agree he didn't necessarily put anyone on by putting an album out but people didn't pay attention to Jay Rock, KDot, Juice or Ya Boyt until game gave them shine on Blackwallstreets Journal Vol. 1...hell if you listen to K.Dot's track "last real nigga alive" he said it started for them with the Documentary...hate it or love it.....game was the first person to take them on tour and give them exposure(playing his part)...just like he did this year with Nipsey....Game hasn't put out a record for anyone(because he's a horrible CEO) but he has given people the opportunity to shine on mixtapes.
But one artist doesn't put the spotlight on a coast. by that logic the spotlight never left because Snoop has been releasing successful albums since 93. I knew about Ya Boy because he was making noise before he appeared with Game. Maybe it got him a lil notice in LA but like I said none of them have blown up so how can you give game props?
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Before Game - No NEW West Coast rappers with major deals for a long time except Guerilla Black
After Game - Glasses Malone gets major deal, Jay Rock gets major deal, Hot Dollar gets major deal, Nipsey Hussle gets major deal, they haven't dropped any albums but they got signed.
I aint sayin he did it by himself cuz Dre n 50 were big with jumpstarting his career... but after Game's success with Documentary, major labels were at least lookin at the West Coast for talent... if u deny that ur fuckin dumb n blind... yeh Snoop was still droppin platinum albums but major labels saw that a new West Coast artist could sell records after Game dropped and realized u dont gotta be snoop cube or xzibit to sell records
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2001 brought the west back for a little while. The Game didn't bring anything back except himself. Last I checked no west coast rappers got any push out of The Documentary. You can argue that The Game putting rappers on Black Wall Street got them notice, but I can argue that no one outside of the people on this forum knows who they are. Y'all are talking like these rappers have blown up. When one of these rappers starts getting some airplay and starts selling some records, then I will give Game his props.
But isn't game from the west coast? So putting himself on and doing major numbers for a new artists put the spotlight back on the coast.... So I agree he didn't necessarily put anyone on by putting an album out but people didn't pay attention to Jay Rock, KDot, Juice or Ya Boyt until game gave them shine on Blackwallstreets Journal Vol. 1...hell if you listen to K.Dot's track "last real nigga alive" he said it started for them with the Documentary...hate it or love it.....game was the first person to take them on tour and give them exposure(playing his part)...just like he did this year with Nipsey....Game hasn't put out a record for anyone(because he's a horrible CEO) but he has given people the opportunity to shine on mixtapes.
But one artist doesn't put the spotlight on a coast. by that logic the spotlight never left because Snoop has been releasing successful albums since 93. I knew about Ya Boy because he was making noise before he appeared with Game. Maybe it got him a lil notice in LA but like I said none of them have blown up so how can you give game props?
I think people where dissapointed in Snoops releases after Doggystyle....I mean Doggfather went plat but that album recieved a lot of hate when it dropped and I don't know anyone who was fuckin wit his No limit releases until he dropped that Bitch please with Xzibit and the Last Meal. IMO there does have to be more artists to gain commercial success before you can say the coast is back but I'm giving Game props for keeping the coast relevant nationwide and doing his part to put the spotlight on new artists. I mean did you know about Juice before he was fuckin wit Game? or Menace? or Glasses for that matter?
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Game haters, go kill yourselves asap pls.
whos the biggest hiphop artist in the west during the past few years?
who put the west back in the map in the past few years?
deep down inside ur haters' hearts u know the answer is Game.
Dude shut up you moron. The west is not back on the map. Which other west coast artist has been successful in the last 3 years? That's right. What artists has Game made successful. None. OK kid. The facts are a powerful tool.
wow homie. ur a completely idiot. Game is not responsible for any1's success. ur blaming Game for the fact that other westcoast artists are not success. think about it, as of today, if ur from other places and talk about the westcoast, 10 people out of 10 are gonna mention Game. He keeps the West relevant in the hiphop world. without game, probably most of the hip hop fans from the world wont even mention the westcoast.
Learn to fucking read, you uneducated porch monkey. Reading compre-fucking-hension. He said Game put the west back on the map. I said he didn't, as no other west coast artist has been successful in the last 3 years. Now, how the fuck do you jump to the conclusion I think it's Game's fault no one else is successful. Now, the Game could have done a lot more in promoting artists. But the fact is, the west is not back, the west is not saved, and you are still an idiot. It's not Game's fault at all. I'm simply saying, the Game hasn't saved the west.
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That tends to be the big miscommunication with this thread. Game's success is definitely a plus for the West but where people are getting it mixed up is in the whole "Game brought the West back" or "he saved Westcoast rap". Anytime that an artist from Cali can push those kind of units, it's a good thing and I know in my case, I wasn't trying to imply that the guy didn't do his fucking thing but am more saying how can Game get credit for bringing the West back when the West isn't back?
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2001 brought the west back for a little while. The Game didn't bring anything back except himself. Last I checked no west coast rappers got any push out of The Documentary. You can argue that The Game putting rappers on Black Wall Street got them notice, but I can argue that no one outside of the people on this forum knows who they are. Y'all are talking like these rappers have blown up. When one of these rappers starts getting some airplay and starts selling some records, then I will give Game his props.
But isn't game from the west coast? So putting himself on and doing major numbers for a new artists put the spotlight back on the coast.... So I agree he didn't necessarily put anyone on by putting an album out but people didn't pay attention to Jay Rock, KDot, Juice or Ya Boyt until game gave them shine on Blackwallstreets Journal Vol. 1...hell if you listen to K.Dot's track "last real nigga alive" he said it started for them with the Documentary...hate it or love it.....game was the first person to take them on tour and give them exposure(playing his part)...just like he did this year with Nipsey....Game hasn't put out a record for anyone(because he's a horrible CEO) but he has given people the opportunity to shine on mixtapes.
But one artist doesn't put the spotlight on a coast. by that logic the spotlight never left because Snoop has been releasing successful albums since 93. I knew about Ya Boy because he was making noise before he appeared with Game. Maybe it got him a lil notice in LA but like I said none of them have blown up so how can you give game props?
I think people where dissapointed in Snoops releases after Doggystyle....I mean Doggfather went plat but that album recieved a lot of hate when it dropped and I don't know anyone who was fuckin wit his No limit releases until he dropped that Bitch please with Xzibit and the Last Meal. IMO there does have to be more artists to gain commercial success before you can say the coast is back but I'm giving Game props for keeping the coast relevant nationwide and doing his part to put the spotlight on new artists. I mean did you know about Juice before he was fuckin wit Game? or Menace? or Glasses for that matter?
People think Doggfather is the shit now. And how were people not fucking with him when he went platinum with each no limit album? I think you are trying to make the point that The Game has put people on but honestly I don't listen to any of those rappers. The only rappers associated with Black Wall Street that I check for are Ya Boy and Clyde Carson, and I knew about them long before the Game. I'm from the bay and I've never heard anyone talk about Juice. Only reason I've heard about him is from this forum and he gets clowned on here.
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Th Game sells records though . and makes good albums , dont compare him to those other guys you named , like glasses malone ? glasses malone is weak , Nipsey Hustle is cool , waiting on his album to drop . 8) 8)
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Game stans have just proved there dickriders & idiots lmao.
as The King said, the West is NOT back on the map, i don't know if you listen to the radio or anything.
the West has no hype as i already said; maybe underground they do, but not mainstream; no average hip hop fan knows about any of the New West rappers.
most importantly Game's success is 100% from Dre & 50 lmao.
Game would be just like the rest of the New West artists now if he never got his chance on Aftermath.
The Documentary put Game on the map, not the westcoast & whose responsible for The Documentary? Dr. Dre & 50 Cent.
that's not even "hatin'" (because you know, when you go against something on this board, your a hater lol ::)), those are just straight up facts lol.
and if u agree with something then ur a stan and a dick rider? that phrase is getting old homie.
"stan" and "dick rider" are over used by u and every1 on the net.
damn homie, its funny how u come to every thread about Game and start calling Game's fan stans and dickriders. get a life pls.
Game's success doesnt come from Dre and 50. no1 is gonna make u success but urself. be smart and think about it a little.
sure Game got helps from Dre and 50 but he makes his own music. his skills and talents are what make him success in the music industry. (u can put lucky in there as well.)
for example, if u get help from Dre and 50 but u got no talent in making music then for sure ur not gonna be success.
homie u gotta give Game props for what he had accomplished as a hiphop artist and his contribution to the Westcoast.
if u can't acknowledge Game's talent and his contribution to the westcoast then ur not a hiphop fan. and u dont deserve to be one.
I agree with saying "game saved the westcoast" is a wrong term to use. but Game did his parts for the west. give him his props.
also dre and 50 are not responsible for the documentary. Game is, he made that album with the help of 50 and Dre. get it straight. the fact that dre and 50 helped him doesnt make them responsible for the album.
50's hooks got it (Hate It or Love It, How We Do) on the radio & the fact he was backed by Aftermath not only got him fans but put him a step others because they are giants of the industry.
no doubt his rappin' helped him, i never took that away from him, nor did i say he was a bad rapper; you just want to read into it that way.
but it's a FACT if somebody with barely any talent got a deal with Aftermath & got a 50 hook & a verse from Eminem over a Dr. Dre beat, it doesn't matter your skill, people will most likely feel it & dig your shit.
my ENTIRE point is, D.A. or LAX would NEVER have came out if The Documentary never came out & the only reason The Documentary is out is because get got a chance from Aftermath.
i give him props for everything he did after The Documentary (near classic btw), but without Aftermath he wouldn't have a mainstream fanbase, a name for himself & he would be like all the other New West guys.
if Jay Rock got a chance on Aftermath, he would be in Game's shoes today.
it's all a formula that Game got lucky to get into.
so stop calling me a "hater" (lmao) because i didn't hate on Game, i just said that he wouldn't be where he is with the albums he has put out without Aftermath.
only a groupie would get tight over my comments. ;) :P
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I basically agree with the above post but I was also pleased to see Game try to improve his skill over albums even though I thought LAX was a bust, poorly made and executed album. It had enough quality tracks to be a good ep but as an album it was shitty. I'm not a fan of Game's antics - his bipolar backwards ass talking that he tries to play off as controversial "i say what i want when i want" blah blah blah Get in control of yaself boy and act like a man.
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^agreed with his antics, they make a man sick lol.
but i also agree that LAX (although weak) had some dope tracks on it.
i anticiapate The R.E.D. Album. 8)
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2001 brought the west back for a little while. The Game didn't bring anything back except himself. Last I checked no west coast rappers got any push out of The Documentary. You can argue that The Game putting rappers on Black Wall Street got them notice, but I can argue that no one outside of the people on this forum knows who they are. Y'all are talking like these rappers have blown up. When one of these rappers starts getting some airplay and starts selling some records, then I will give Game his props.
But isn't game from the west coast? So putting himself on and doing major numbers for a new artists put the spotlight back on the coast.... So I agree he didn't necessarily put anyone on by putting an album out but people didn't pay attention to Jay Rock, KDot, Juice or Ya Boyt until game gave them shine on Blackwallstreets Journal Vol. 1...hell if you listen to K.Dot's track "last real nigga alive" he said it started for them with the Documentary...hate it or love it.....game was the first person to take them on tour and give them exposure(playing his part)...just like he did this year with Nipsey....Game hasn't put out a record for anyone(because he's a horrible CEO) but he has given people the opportunity to shine on mixtapes.
But one artist doesn't put the spotlight on a coast. by that logic the spotlight never left because Snoop has been releasing successful albums since 93. I knew about Ya Boy because he was making noise before he appeared with Game. Maybe it got him a lil notice in LA but like I said none of them have blown up so how can you give game props?
I think people where dissapointed in Snoops releases after Doggystyle....I mean Doggfather went plat but that album recieved a lot of hate when it dropped and I don't know anyone who was fuckin wit his No limit releases until he dropped that Bitch please with Xzibit and the Last Meal. IMO there does have to be more artists to gain commercial success before you can say the coast is back but I'm giving Game props for keeping the coast relevant nationwide and doing his part to put the spotlight on new artists. I mean did you know about Juice before he was fuckin wit Game? or Menace? or Glasses for that matter?
People think Doggfather is the shit now. And how were people not fucking with him when he went platinum with each no limit album? I think you are trying to make the point that The Game has put people on but honestly I don't listen to any of those rappers. The only rappers associated with Black Wall Street that I check for are Ya Boy and Clyde Carson, and I knew about them long before the Game. I'm from the bay and I've never heard anyone talk about Juice. Only reason I've heard about him is from this forum and he gets clowned on here.
Yeah Now....but when that shit dropped he got a lot of hate for that album and I don't know one person who was fuckin wit the "Game is to be sold not told" that shit was horrible(plat or no plat that shit was not getting love)....like I said he started to bring it back on Top Dogg and then dropped a heater with the last meal. My main point was that for a New artist Game made a huge impact in the Game commercially...I mean he was buzzing(getting more respect) on the east coast and the east has always been biased against the west..... you know that. I mean if you don't fuck wit the artists he's put on.... I feel that but I think his success did pave the way for new cats to have an opportunity.....but it's up to them to capitalize(to really bring the west back).