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Title: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Job starring as King Of Zamunda on June 13, 2009, 11:16:54 AM
how come the majority (mexican) of california cant make a song to represent for the state like Tupac- california love . wheres the representation. for you chicano rap lovers.............if it cant blow in califa...........then just hang it up
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: West Coast Veteran on June 13, 2009, 02:29:06 PM
I was a huge supporter of Blunts LLA but not Omar Cruz.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Job starring as King Of Zamunda on June 13, 2009, 03:19:51 PM
my whole thing is like this. if you cant blow up in your area with your own people, your shit is garbage. thats like reggae not being big in Jamaica.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Fatdodger on June 13, 2009, 03:21:13 PM
Because the nortes and surs dont get along
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Job starring as King Of Zamunda on June 13, 2009, 03:22:32 PM
Because the nortes and surs dont get along
horrible excuse.......what that got to do with consumers..............you know how many niggas who dont get along in the industry?
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: ThatSICCNESS on June 13, 2009, 03:23:32 PM
I was a huge supporter of Blunts LLA but not Omar Cruz.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Fatdodger on June 13, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
Because the nortes and surs dont get along
horrible excuse.......what that got to do with consumers..............you know how many niggas who dont get along in the industry?


Yeah but that shit is to the death it aint no crip blood thing this shit is real like the really really hate each other expecially out in central cali or northern cali god damn
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 13, 2009, 03:58:29 PM
o cruz used to be known as blunts llla right?



I was a huge supporter of Blunts LLA but not Omar Cruz.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Fatdodger on June 13, 2009, 04:06:23 PM
o cruz used to be known as blunts llla right?



I was a huge supporter of Blunts LLA but not Omar Cruz.


Yup
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: DPE on June 13, 2009, 04:07:14 PM
how come the majority (mexican) of california cant make a song to represent for the state like Tupac- california love . wheres the representation. for you chicano rap lovers.............if it cant blow in califa...........then just hang it up

cuz the gang culture gets in the way of all of it. there's plenty of mexicans that can spit, believe me. they aint all on that gangster shit either. i know/seen/heard quite a few people of my race gettin down to some shit. & like Fatdodger said, the Sureno & norteno conflict would get in the way wit all of it.

but the whole Latino, non-reggaeton-making, music scene will be big soon, trust. alot of Latin artists are getting discovered by labels & other people & they're recognizing that we aint all like how everyone portrays us to be.

it aint that we cant make an anthem like that, its cuz we aint got that push right now & all that gang culture bullshit gets in the way of it.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 13, 2009, 04:09:38 PM
IMO it comes down to the muffuccaz at the top who are bitchmade and only want wayne, tpain
otherwise theres a few dope rappers out there and IMO mr shadow is dopest (everything considered especially lyrically)
otherwise his I HANG WIT MY DOGGS is
-his best song
-video was dope
-it could be a club player (maybe not a club banger)

but that song is mad dope

Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: EML on June 13, 2009, 04:34:56 PM
Sureno rap is straight garbage and most Surenos are racist so maybe thats
hurting them. Norteno rap is ok but I think if any Chicano rapper blows up I think
it will be a Norteno rapper. Up here in Nor Cal there cool with blacks example
Mac Dre theres a lot of love for him up here and 2pac did a track with the Funky Aztecs they are a
chicano group  its called Slippin into Darkness its good
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 13, 2009, 06:29:56 PM
Because the nortes and surs dont get along
horrible excuse.......what that got to do with consumers..............you know how many niggas who dont get along in the industry?


Yeah but that shit is to the death it aint no crip blood thing this shit is real like the really really hate each other expecially out in central cali or northern cali god damn

lol Cus Crips and Bloods secretly really love eachother...

Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 13, 2009, 06:36:53 PM
To be really real with it, fuck that Norteno/ Sureno shit. Im cool with Mexicans, and some of my closest homies growin up was Mexican. But Mexican rap dont blow up for one reason....cus the shit is wack. Strait up.  Lyrically, its weaker then the South and just like a lotta Westcoast artist, they stick to the gangsta shit. Cool, I aint got no problem with THAT. But all that "ese" shit just aint somethin that most muhafuckas can relate to. Unless you an ese, you aint fuckin with it.  A majority of rap music consumers are white kids in the suburbs, and theres a reason they have a term like "Wigger" and not "Weaner". Cus a lot of them kids wanna be Black kids from the hood, not eses from the Barrio.  Ive heard some Mexican rappers who aint half bad, but they fall back into that same stereotype.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Fatdodger on June 13, 2009, 06:51:09 PM
To be really real with it, fuck that Norteno/ Sureno shit. Im cool with Mexicans, and some of my closest homies growin up was Mexican. But Mexican rap dont blow up for one reason....cus the shit is wack. Strait up.  Lyrically, its weaker then the South and just like a lotta Westcoast artist, they stick to the gangsta shit. Cool, I aint got no problem with THAT. But all that "ese" shit just aint somethin that most muhafuckas can relate to. Unless you an ese, you aint fuckin with it.  A majority of rap music consumers are white kids in the suburbs, and theres a reason they have a term like "Wigger" and not "Weaner". Cus a lot of them kids wanna be Black kids from the hood, not eses from the Barrio.  Ive heard some Mexican rappers who aint half bad, but they fall back into that same stereotype.



Yeah fuck that norte vs sur shit man these niggas are hella old with kids in the backseat banging fuck that ignorant ass shit.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Jynxx on June 13, 2009, 07:01:02 PM
honestly..i dont think us mexicans r wack..i just think the music some cats choose to do is wack..Sick Jacken is mad dope..and he represents us...unless ur expecting a mexican lil wayne or someshit like that..then its not gonna happend...but there is gangs of underground cats thats dope as hell..lyrical and all...so all in its time...
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Fatdodger on June 13, 2009, 07:07:32 PM
honestly..i dont think us mexicans r wack..i just think the music some cats choose to do is wack..Sick Jacken is mad dope..and he represents us...unless ur expecting a mexican lil wayne or someshit like that..then its not gonna happend...but there is gangs of underground cats thats dope as hell..lyrical and all...so all in its time...


The thing that fuck us up is the gang thing because youll get hate from the north or the south.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: doja on June 14, 2009, 03:04:42 AM
Because the nortes and surs dont get along
horrible excuse.......what that got to do with consumers..............you know how many niggas who dont get along in the industry?


Yeah but that shit is to the death it aint no crip blood thing this shit is real like the really really hate each other expecially out in central cali or northern cali god damn

nigga please...nors and surs live like 500 miles from each other.. surs in LA arent even aware for the most part of northsiders unless they have been to prison. they are busy bangin on each other and blac gangs. however bloods and crips are doin this shit every day. in fact they dont even just bang on each other. anyone who lives in LA knows it hasn't been a blue v red thing for overa long time. its a set v set thang. nortenos however are still on that red v blue shit. cuz they bangin on LA from miles away they dont even know whats goin on with us. they up there talkin shit about southsiders but never actually mix it up with any surs unless they in prison.. the reason mexican rap doesnt sell isn't simply cuz its garbage(which imo it is..i cant stand the sound of a someone with a mexican accent rapping..ts like nails on chalk board to me) but they have no support..there's all kinds of garbage on radio right now..kids listen to whatever the media tells them they should for the most part. if someone was willing to put mass amounts od $$$ behind mexican rap to get it on the radio and make it a cultural thang tthat this si the new shit it would blow up to..but no one is pushing to make this shit mainstream...
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Trojan God on June 14, 2009, 07:32:32 AM
Frost is tight as fuck.. Yeah hes seasoned but the thing with him is that he developed his style... Im not a big a fan of "Chicano" rap and it really annoys the fuck outta me when they are like oh me n my heyna or yo y mi ruka... they play up to the stereotypes and its like ur regressing your culture and making everybody continue to think that mexicans, unless its regaetone or mariachis, will never improve in music. 

There are a few Mexican rappers who can improve their standing with a radio hit here n there (IE. Lil Rob) but Rob actually talks about common things that not just mexicans but all races do.. Who doesnt enjoy a summer night of drinking and partying?  But then with the played out beats and the whole Fuck the haters thing, its like yeah everybody has haters but its so played out.  Success is the best way to get at the "haters" so stop reminding them u dont like them and step your own game up.  Show that you have a place in music.  Instead of just being a MEXICAN rapper or a MEXICAN lyricist, be a rapper, or a lyricist.  Nobody Gives a Damn that Big Pun Was a Puerto RIcan or Cuban lyricist... They cared that he was a LYRICIST
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on June 14, 2009, 08:39:53 AM
its hard enough for ANY west coast artist to break through...let alone a mexican.

Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Psychotik on June 15, 2009, 01:19:23 AM
its hard enough for ANY west coast artist to break through...let alone a mexican.



not to mention any other race. diggin the new Kobe picture.

Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: dexter on June 15, 2009, 10:57:36 AM
To be really real with it, fuck that Norteno/ Sureno shit. Im cool with Mexicans, and some of my closest homies growin up was Mexican. But Mexican rap dont blow up for one reason....cus the shit is wack. Strait up.  Lyrically, its weaker then the South and just like a lotta Westcoast artist, they stick to the gangsta shit. Cool, I aint got no problem with THAT. But all that "ese" shit just aint somethin that most muhafuckas can relate to. Unless you an ese, you aint fuckin with it.  A majority of rap music consumers are white kids in the suburbs, and theres a reason they have a term like "Wigger" and not "Weaner". Cus a lot of them kids wanna be Black kids from the hood, not eses from the Barrio.  Ive heard some Mexican rappers who aint half bad, but they fall back into that same stereotype.
nice
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Brown Guy on June 15, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
It would be easyer to get exposer as a mexican group. Like the mexicans and delinquent habits.
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: the vine on June 15, 2009, 02:06:48 PM
cypress hill needs to make the anthem  8)
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: Bluemercury on June 15, 2009, 04:30:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zishC06RsZ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itewnnZmtug&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7mk1MRvGCY&feature=channel

When all those others dirt bags start spittin' like this!!
Title: Re: when will ese's and cholos represent
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 15, 2009, 04:53:14 PM
damn if mr shadow got more support, that be dope
hes one of the dopest on this coast for real