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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on June 13, 2009, 07:45:40 PM
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Overall Ice Cube is better.
Discography? Cube got 2 undeniable classics (AMW and DC), 2 arguable classics (Predator and Lethal Injection), 2 group classics (Straight Outta Compton and Bow Down) and a classic EP (Kill At Will)
Skills? Biggie takes it but not by far.
Impact? Cube wrote Straight Outta Compton. Nuff Said. Changed the game forever.
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Cube - G.O.A.T.
Love Biggie but you can't compare anyone to the Don Dadda.
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Cube easy. 8)
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too bad they never did a track together...Big didn't work with many west coast cats - outside of Pac (who was runnin with Stretch and Majesty in NYC at the time)
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Overall Ice Cube is better.
Discography? Cube got 2 undeniable classics (AMW and DC), 2 arguable classics (Predator and Lethal Injection), 2 group classics (Straight Outta Compton and Bow Down) and a classic EP (Kill At Will)
Skills? Biggie takes it but not by far.
Impact? Cube wrote Straight Outta Compton. Nuff Said. Changed the game forever.
And Big's written his share of classics as well. It's kind of an uneven debate. Cube not only started more than 6 years before Big but he's had a full career since. Big died about three years after his first album hit the shelves. For the time that Big had, he influenced a lot of cats and really earned himself a legacy. It would be like if Cube was gunned down right after he finished recording "Death Certificate".
It's kind of a weird comparison anyway. I'd go with something like Cube vs. Face since they both started out in a group and have both been in the game for over two decades. Biggie versus Cube just seems like an odd match-up to me. Their styles aren't similar enough to where it makes sense to compare them. The decision seems like it would almost always have to be based on whose style you dug more. It's kind of like an Eminem vs. Tupac comparison, the votes are gonna pull away from skill and turn into "well, this guy wrote this and this guy makes music about pointless shit so he's stupid".
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Overall Ice Cube is better.
Discography? Cube got 2 undeniable classics (AMW and DC), 2 arguable classics (Predator and Lethal Injection), 2 group classics (Straight Outta Compton and Bow Down) and a classic EP (Kill At Will)
Skills? Biggie takes it but not by far.
Impact? Cube wrote Straight Outta Compton. Nuff Said. Changed the game forever.
And Big's written his share of classics as well. It's kind of an uneven debate. Cube not only started more than 6 years before Big but he's had a full career since. Big died about three years after his first album hit the shelves. For the time that Big had, he influenced a lot of cats and really earned himself a legacy. It would be like if Cube was gunned down right after he finished recording "Death Certificate".
It's kind of a weird comparison anyway. I'd go with something like Cube vs. Face since they both started out in a group and have both been in the game for over two decades. Biggie versus Cube just seems like an odd match-up to me. Their styles aren't similar enough to where it makes sense to compare them. The decision seems like it would almost always have to be based on whose style you dug more. It's kind of like an Eminem vs. Tupac comparison, the votes are gonna pull away from skill and turn into "well, this guy wrote this and this guy makes music about pointless shit so he's stupid".
good points.. who knows what biggie would of done..
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Biggie had more lyrical skills and a crazy flow. Cube was more political and more influential. Both had at least two classic albums (Cube maybe three). Depends what you prefer.
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i say cube. i like big too, but majority gonna pic cube on a westcoast rap forum
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Overall Ice Cube is better.
Discography? Cube got 2 undeniable classics (AMW and DC), 2 arguable classics (Predator and Lethal Injection), 2 group classics (Straight Outta Compton and Bow Down) and a classic EP (Kill At Will)
Skills? Biggie takes it but not by far.
Impact? Cube wrote Straight Outta Compton. Nuff Said. Changed the game forever.
And Big's written his share of classics as well. It's kind of an uneven debate. Cube not only started more than 6 years before Big but he's had a full career since. Big died about three years after his first album hit the shelves. For the time that Big had, he influenced a lot of cats and really earned himself a legacy. It would be like if Cube was gunned down right after he finished recording "Death Certificate".
It's kind of a weird comparison anyway. I'd go with something like Cube vs. Face since they both started out in a group and have both been in the game for over two decades. Biggie versus Cube just seems like an odd match-up to me. Their styles aren't similar enough to where it makes sense to compare them. The decision seems like it would almost always have to be based on whose style you dug more. It's kind of like an Eminem vs. Tupac comparison, the votes are gonna pull away from skill and turn into "well, this guy wrote this and this guy makes music about pointless shit so he's stupid".
only white ppl think pac and em are on the same lvl...comparin em to pac is a slap in the face. like comparing chuck barry to elvis or vanilla ice to mc hammer. originator v imitator
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Overall Ice Cube is better.
Discography? Cube got 2 undeniable classics (AMW and DC), 2 arguable classics (Predator and Lethal Injection), 2 group classics (Straight Outta Compton and Bow Down) and a classic EP (Kill At Will)
Skills? Biggie takes it but not by far.
Impact? Cube wrote Straight Outta Compton. Nuff Said. Changed the game forever.
And Big's written his share of classics as well. It's kind of an uneven debate. Cube not only started more than 6 years before Big but he's had a full career since. Big died about three years after his first album hit the shelves. For the time that Big had, he influenced a lot of cats and really earned himself a legacy. It would be like if Cube was gunned down right after he finished recording "Death Certificate".
It's kind of a weird comparison anyway. I'd go with something like Cube vs. Face since they both started out in a group and have both been in the game for over two decades. Biggie versus Cube just seems like an odd match-up to me. Their styles aren't similar enough to where it makes sense to compare them. The decision seems like it would almost always have to be based on whose style you dug more. It's kind of like an Eminem vs. Tupac comparison, the votes are gonna pull away from skill and turn into "well, this guy wrote this and this guy makes music about pointless shit so he's stupid".
only white ppl think pac and em are on the same lvl...comparin em to pac is a slap in the face. like comparing chuck barry to elvis or vanilla ice to mc hammer. originator v imitator
How does Em imitate Pac? They have completely different styles. So whoever comes first is the originator? If that's the case then Pac is just a ripoff of Cube.
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well said, because em does not copy pac, in fact he is influenced by pac. but then again, he's influenced by many others such as redman, wu-tang, outkast, biggie etc...
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Both are dope MC's and legends, but i'll go with Ice Cube, simply for the fact that he's one of my favourite MC's ever.
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Cube
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2nd DUMBEST THREAD EVER!!!
NEXT DR.DRE vs. SOULJABOY
At Least not another 2Pac is God Thread ;D
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Overall Ice Cube is better.
Discography? Cube got 2 undeniable classics (AMW and DC), 2 arguable classics (Predator and Lethal Injection), 2 group classics (Straight Outta Compton and Bow Down) and a classic EP (Kill At Will)
Skills? Biggie takes it but not by far.
Impact? Cube wrote Straight Outta Compton. Nuff Said. Changed the game forever.
And Big's written his share of classics as well. It's kind of an uneven debate. Cube not only started more than 6 years before Big but he's had a full career since. Big died about three years after his first album hit the shelves. For the time that Big had, he influenced a lot of cats and really earned himself a legacy. It would be like if Cube was gunned down right after he finished recording "Death Certificate".
It's kind of a weird comparison anyway. I'd go with something like Cube vs. Face since they both started out in a group and have both been in the game for over two decades. Biggie versus Cube just seems like an odd match-up to me. Their styles aren't similar enough to where it makes sense to compare them. The decision seems like it would almost always have to be based on whose style you dug more. It's kind of like an Eminem vs. Tupac comparison, the votes are gonna pull away from skill and turn into "well, this guy wrote this and this guy makes music about pointless shit so he's stupid".
I agree. Good points.....Hmmm one thing that stays in my mind when everybody saying Biggie is THE greatest, is that he took King Ts style, then ran with it. Also IMO Only Ready 2 Die was classic (as in solid from start to finish). He was the 'savior' for the East, wehn West was dominating, and ever since the Pac Biggie beef (argue even earlier), East fans have been fickle to everyone but 'thier own' bred mcs...
Not a good comparison.
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Tha Don Mega Ey Ey 8)
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Its the most nonobjective thing to ask this on a West Coast forum, since most of the people will say Cube.
But Biggie is the best.
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Ice Cube
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Overall Ice Cube is better.
Discography? Cube got 2 undeniable classics (AMW and DC), 2 arguable classics (Predator and Lethal Injection), 2 group classics (Straight Outta Compton and Bow Down) and a classic EP (Kill At Will)
Skills? Biggie takes it but not by far.
Impact? Cube wrote Straight Outta Compton. Nuff Said. Changed the game forever.
And Big's written his share of classics as well. It's kind of an uneven debate. Cube not only started more than 6 years before Big but he's had a full career since. Big died about three years after his first album hit the shelves. For the time that Big had, he influenced a lot of cats and really earned himself a legacy. It would be like if Cube was gunned down right after he finished recording "Death Certificate".
It's kind of a weird comparison anyway. I'd go with something like Cube vs. Face since they both started out in a group and have both been in the game for over two decades. Biggie versus Cube just seems like an odd match-up to me. Their styles aren't similar enough to where it makes sense to compare them. The decision seems like it would almost always have to be based on whose style you dug more. It's kind of like an Eminem vs. Tupac comparison, the votes are gonna pull away from skill and turn into "well, this guy wrote this and this guy makes music about pointless shit so he's stupid".
only white ppl think pac and em are on the same lvl...comparin em to pac is a slap in the face. like comparing chuck barry to elvis or vanilla ice to mc hammer. originator v imitator
im white and i think 2pac shits on eminem....including Em when he was the man (1996-2001)
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Its the most nonobjective thing to ask this on a West Coast forum, since most of the people will say Cube.
But Biggie is the best.
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ever.
do.
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point.
BIG L was better than Notorious in every aspect of rap
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Shit....it's Cube hands down...RIP to BIG but just because he died early doesn't make him the greatest ever.....Cube simply has more classic tracks and albums period.
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Shit....it's Cube hands down...RIP to BIG but just because he died early doesn't make him the greatest ever.....Cube simply has more classic tracks and albums period.
but who at their best was better?
if you put the two on a track I'm picking Biggie for the better 16 or 24 bars
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Shit....it's Cube hands down...RIP to BIG but just because he died early doesn't make him the greatest ever.....Cube simply has more classic tracks and albums period.
but who at their best was better?
if you put the two on a track I'm picking Biggie for the better 16 or 24 bars
You can't say that because it was a different time when both where on top...to me Cube had a lot more meaningful songs with Substance between America's most and Death Certificate alone....not to even mention The predator....shit Cube was predicting the riots before they even happened...he had a lot of songs about police brutality, economic slavery by foreigners in our own hoods(Black Korea)...ya know real shit that was effecting our people.
Yeah Biggie had great word play....but where was the substance?? Cube was the voice of the people for his time....fo real.... But i respect your opinion.
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Shit....it's Cube hands down...RIP to BIG but just because he died early doesn't make him the greatest ever.....Cube simply has more classic tracks and albums period.
but who at their best was better?
if you put the two on a track I'm picking Biggie for the better 16 or 24 bars
You can't say that because it was a different time when both where on top...to me Cube had a lot more meaningful songs with Substance between America's most and Death Certificate alone....not to even mention The predator....shit Cube was predicting the riots before they even happened...he had a lot of songs about police brutality, economic slavery by foreigners in our own hoods(Black Korea)...ya know real shit that was effecting our people.
Yeah Biggie had great word play....but where was the substance?? Cube was the voice of the people for his time....fo real.... But i respect your opinion.
Well said! Good stuff.
I love B.I.G. too, But I have to agree 100% w/your post bro.
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biggie had substance
Juicy, Everyday Struggle, Sky's the Limit, Things Done Changed
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Cube - Greatest rapper of all time imo
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ICE CUBE
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Cube and BIG are very different rappers imo, a better poll would have been Cube vs Pac.
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Cube and BIG are very different rappers imo, a better poll would have been Cube vs Pac.
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biggie had substance
Juicy, Everyday Struggle, Sky's the Limit, Things Done Changed
ya everyday struggle was my favorite song on that album since it came out
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Its the most nonobjective thing to ask this on a West Coast forum, since most of the people will say Cube.
But Biggie is the best.
to.
ever.
do.
it.
point.
BIG L was better than Notorious in every aspect of rap
His voice sucks. Kinda like Joe Budden...the voice ruins it all, they may be gifted, but they sounds nasal like shit....
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I'm sick of everyone on Biggie's nuts yeah "ready to die" is a classic and one of the best hip hop albums ever. But wtf dude only had 2 albums and is considered the best WTF is that. Plus on the second album you can see the direction BIGGIE was taking with that POP/R&B sellout shit.
I voted for Ice Cube simply for the fact "Amerikkkas most wanted" is better then "ready to die" IMO. "death certifiacte" and "the predator" album shit all over "life after death". Not to mention Ice Cubes body of work is 20x more then Biggie's. Yeah he died young and didn't have time to release alot of work but it also didnt give him time to fall off he died just after his prime.
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Its the most nonobjective thing to ask this on a West Coast forum, since most of the people will say Cube.
But Biggie is the best.
to.
ever.
do.
it.
point.
BIG L was better than Notorious in every aspect of rap
His voice sucks. Kinda like Joe Budden...the voice ruins it all, they may be gifted, but they sounds nasal like shit....
Lol Big L and Budden sound nothing alike
and Big L craps on budden from the grave