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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on June 14, 2009, 06:57:25 AM
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guess it's coming back to fruition ???
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that would be something if Shaq went to the Cavs and ended up winning a title alongside LeBron...
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Shaq Headed to Cleveland? by Randy Lutz
June 14, 2009
This morning it's being reported that Shaq being traded from the Suns to the Cavs is looking more and more likely. The Cavs would send Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic to the Suns and would receive O'Neal in return.
Essentially, with Wallace's possible retirement leaving the possibility of a buyout and the fact that Pavlovic is only owed $1.5 million this season if cut, this trade would bring a great deal of salaray cap relief to the Suns and could help push the Cavs over the hump they seemed to reach in the Eastern Conference Finals.
As a fan of basketball in general and not so much a particular team, I'm extremely excited about this possibility. Bringing the experience and power of Shaquille O'Neal to Cleveland to pair up with LeBron James would be amazing; it would almost certainly lock up a title in Cleveland in 2010, the last year on James' current contract. In addition, lining up Zydrunas Ilgauskus and Shaquille O'Neal side-by-side would be a huge frontcourt, as the two seven-footers would intimdate all. Of course, Big Z's knock is that he doesn't play the post well, but the presence of Shaq in that lineup would take care of that. This is, of course presuming that Shaq played as effectively as he did last season.
Author Poll
Will trading for Shaq bring a title to Cleveland?
Yes, pull the trigger on the trade today! I'm not sure yet... No! What are they thinking??? It doesn't matter what they do, I'm a Kobe fan and won't ever admit the Cavs could beat him vote to see results I have to say, however, I don't know that this is the wisest move for the Cavaliers in the long term. Sure, they could finally get a 'chip for a sports-success-starved city, but this wouldn't really contribute to future runs, now would it? Shaq is far from a young talent, and is clearly on the downside of his career. Adding him looks good in the present, but what about beyond next season?
In terms of preparing for down the road, I would much prefer to see the Cavaliers chase a younger post player, perhaps Al Jefferson or maybe even Zach Randolph; they need someone that you can get many more years out of.
So while this move may be the push the Cavs to finally get that elusive title, it is also clearly a move made out of desperation. They're trying to ensure a title for one year, hoping and praying that that is enough to convince LeBron to stick around.
Now, if you've seen any of my other comments or articles, you know that I believe that winning a title in Cleveland before his contract is up works against LeBron staying in Cleveland, but it appears that I'm the only one of that opinion, so we'll have to wait and see the long-term ramifications of this trade should it occur.
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LOL!!!
Shaq is on a mission to BEAT L.A.!
i would die laughing if he brings them a ring & then maybe another one, naw mean? ;D
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that would be something if Shaq went to the Cavs and ended up winning a title alongside LeBron...
and then Lebron goes to NY the next offseason to play with D-wade LOL
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that would be something if Shaq went to the Cavs and ended up winning a title alongside LeBron...
and then Lebron goes to NY the next offseason to play with D-wade LOL
I think the possibilties of LeBron playing in New York with Chris Bosh are more likely
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NOt the best longterm addition for the Cavs, but its a good trade for Pavlovic and Wallace (although their contracts are up after this year while Shaq has two still).
Two things: IF, and that is a HUGE if as Cleveland still has mad holes and I don't see how Shaq fits really, but IF the Cavs won, you just know Laker fans would say this:
1) Lebron can't win a title without Shaq, but Kobe could
2) Shaq is now known as the "Big Coat tail" for hitching a ride with Kobe, Wade, and Lebron
Would be mad funny, but too predictable
Still, i don't like the trade a whole lot, the Cavs could do something better with 20 mllion worth of expiring contreacts
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Shaq is on his last leg. What makes people think he could help bring LeBron a championship?
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Shaq is on his last leg. What makes people think he could help bring LeBron a championship?
and how he would completly screw up lebrons game by clogging up the paint. I dont see this working as well as people think. Still wouldnt beat the Lakers in 7...
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Shaq is on his last leg. What makes people think he could help bring LeBron a championship?
Did you watch Shaq play this year? Dude had a great year, he is not done yet.
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that would be something if Shaq went to the Cavs and ended up winning a title alongside LeBron...
and then Lebron goes to NY the next offseason to play with D-wade LOL
I think the possibilties of LeBron playing in New York with Chris Bosh are more likely
Bosh is probably going to Detroit
mark my words (only if my prediction is right :D )
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Shaq is on his last leg. What makes people think he could help bring LeBron a championship?
Did you watch Shaq play this year? Dude had a great year, he is not done yet.
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Shaq is on his last leg. What makes people think he could help bring LeBron a championship?
Did you watch Shaq play this year? Dude had a great year, he is not done yet.
Playing 30 minutes. I doubt he could keep that up next year. He'll still be effective, but he's not getting the Cavs over the top.
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Shaq is on his last leg. What makes people think he could help bring LeBron a championship?
Did you watch Shaq play this year? Dude had a great year, he is not done yet.
Playing 30 minutes. I doubt he could keep that up next year. He'll still be effective, but he's not getting the Cavs over the top.
Shaq definitely isn't the answer to the Cavs problems as they have many, but he would be an improvement on what they have in the post right now.
Ilgauskas is their only decent offensive post, but he is at least as slow as Shaq and can't defend at all. Shaq is better than him.
Varejao is a flopper, but can be decent OFF THE BENCH. Shaq is better than him.
Joe Smith? Shaq is better than him, Smith is too small to defend the paint.
Wallace? Old, washed up, even more so than Shaq. Shaq is far better than him.
I hope the Cavs somehow get Boozer, and an athletic wing who can defend, but I wouldn't be mad if they got SHaq, as long as he can avoid injury trouble. There is no way he talks shit about Lebron, that much I know.
All in all, Shaq doesn't seem to fit in that he clogs the same lane that Lebron drives into play after play. Lebron better work on his jumper (which isn't as bad as people think, its just mad streaky).
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Fisrt off I love Shaq... Been my dude since jump.
Would be interesting, But does putting him w/LeBron solidify his Robin status? (Not Batman Superman)
I mean check it..
Hardaway
Bryant
Wade
Nash
James?
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Fisrt off I love Shaq... Been my dude since jump.
Would be interesting, But does putting him w/LeBron solidify his Robin status? (Not Batman Superman)
I mean check it..
Hardaway
Bryant
Wade
Nash
James?
I know what you are saying, but I don't see that he was ever Robin to Penny or Kobe. You watched the games, so I am sure you know that. Penny was good, but he was not as good as people try to say he is today. Remember when he said he was going to AVERAGE 40 pts/game for a season? mad funny
But yo, either way, no matter what team Shaq goes to, he will never be the first option again, so if that makes him "Robin" then definitely. He has sure played with some great players. THing is, SHAQ was GREAT, one of the best to ever do it when he was in his prime.
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Fisrt off I love Shaq... Been my dude since jump.
Would be interesting, But does putting him w/LeBron solidify his Robin status? (Not Batman Superman)
I mean check it..
Hardaway
Bryant
Wade
Nash
James?
I know what you are saying, but I don't see that he was ever Robin to Penny or Kobe. You watched the games, so I am sure you know that. Penny was good, but he was not as good as people try to say he is today. Remember when he said he was going to AVERAGE 40 pts/game for a season? mad funny
But yo, either way, no matter what team Shaq goes to, he will never be the first option again, so if that makes him "Robin" then definitely. He has sure played with some great players. THing is, SHAQ was GREAT, one of the best to ever do it when he was in his prime.
No doubt. Yeah, I defo remember me some Penny.... goodtimes.
Shaq was defo the Man in L.A. during his run no doubt.
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The most dominant big ever riding coattails? lol. Penny didn't do shit w/o him, Kobe has YET to do shit w/o him, Wade hasn't done shit w/o him.
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Fisrt off I love Shaq... Been my dude since jump.
Would be interesting, But does putting him w/LeBron solidify his Robin status? (Not Batman Superman)
I mean check it..
Hardaway
Bryant
Wade
Nash
James?
naw, Dominant big men are few and far between. Great perimeter players come a dime a dozen.
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The most dominant big ever riding coattails? lol. Penny didn't do shit w/o him, Kobe has YET to do shit w/o him, Wade hasn't done shit w/o him.
but think about Kobe.
i mean i think you don't understand the cast he has around him.
the Lakers w/o Kobe would make the playoffs, in the east anyway lol.
he couldn't do anything without Pau, Odom & Bynum.
& the 3 of them together basically equals one Shaq in his prime. :P
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Fisrt off I love Shaq... Been my dude since jump.
Would be interesting, But does putting him w/LeBron solidify his Robin status? (Not Batman Superman)
I mean check it..
Hardaway
Bryant
Wade
Nash
James?
naw, Dominant big men are few and far between. Great perimeter players come a dime a dozen.
No doubt, I was just playin' around with Shaq's situation a bit..lol
he want's another ring, That's the heart of lion..
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The most dominant big ever riding coattails? lol. Penny didn't do shit w/o him, Kobe has YET to do shit w/o him, Wade hasn't done shit w/o him.
but think about Kobe.
i mean i think you don't understand the cast he has around him.
the Lakers w/o Kobe would make the playoffs, in the east anyway lol.
he couldn't do anything without Pau, Odom & Bynum.
& the 3 of them together basically equals one Shaq in his prime. :P
Dizzam! Pau, Odom & Bynum = one Shaq in his prime... :o
Shaq was a bad, bad dude...lol
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The most dominant big ever riding coattails? lol. Penny didn't do shit w/o him, Kobe has YET to do shit w/o him, Wade hasn't done shit w/o him.
Kobe and Wade have been top 5 NBA players w/o him...Kobe's about to get a ring w/o him
Penny fell the fuck off tho
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The most dominant big ever riding coattails? lol. Penny didn't do shit w/o him, Kobe has YET to do shit w/o him, Wade hasn't done shit w/o him.
but think about Kobe.
i mean i think you don't understand the cast he has around him.
the Lakers w/o Kobe would make the playoffs, in the east anyway lol.
he couldn't do anything without Pau, Odom & Bynum.
& the 3 of them together basically equals one Shaq in his prime. :P
Dizzam! Pau, Odom & Bynum = one Shaq in his prime... :o
Shaq was a bad, bad dude...lol
one of the best big men of all time. 8)
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meh...
would be cool to see, but I think it could just be a waste of time
plus if that doesn't work out then LeBron is definitely gone
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honestly i don't want him to finish his career there, i'd rather see him in a clippers jersey than in a cavs jersey. that trade would make sense for the cavs but would be dumb for phoenix.
but i really don't want to see the coverage of shaq and kobe via lebron. that wouldn't be cool.
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i really don't want to see the coverage of shaq and kobe via lebron. that wouldn't be cool.
probably would turn into the most annoying shit ever
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stupid move if they do it....
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i really don't want to see the coverage of shaq and kobe via lebron. that wouldn't be cool.
probably would turn into the most annoying shit ever
right up there with the brett favre shit and a rod roids shit
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Shaq is obviously nowhere close to his prime but I think he'll still be pretty productive next year. With that said though, the addition of Shaq won't be nearly enough to get the Cavs over the hump.
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I wanted this to happen for this year. Nothing would have been sweeter for me than the Lakers getting stopped again but this time because of Shaq.
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I wanted this to happen for this year. Nothing would have been sweeter for me than the Lakers getting stopped again but this time because of Shaq.
lakers would still beat cavs
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I wanted this to happen for this year. Nothing would have been sweeter for me than the Lakers getting stopped again but this time because of Shaq.
lakers would still beat cavs
Likely. The Cavs have many weak spots, but I think their biggest problem is their starting guards are so damn small that they have trouble defending long wing players. Shaq would kind of address the Cavs weak interior defense and need for an offensive post player, but in no way is he the answer.
The Cavs had a GREAT regular season, they really overachieved, so props to them. On paper, they might be the worst team to ever win 66 wins. Seriously, look at their line-up, especially the posts.
I don't see the Cavs doing that well again unless they get an entirely new offensive system that has Lebron in the post often, and an athletic, scoring wing, and a semi-dominant post player.
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he gave Kobe his first ring, then Wade; why not LeBron? 8)
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Kobe has YET to do shit w/o him
LOL
Shaq would be a horrible fit with Cleveland.
who woulda thought he'd become a journeyman in the 2nd half of his career? LOL
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Kobe has YET to do shit w/o him
LOL
Shaq would be a horrible fit with Cleveland.
who woulda thought he'd become a journeyman in the 2nd half of his career? LOL
It's what happens when you're 38 or whatever with a contract that big. He's obviously still in demand.
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Just realized that if he joins he'll have played with Kobe, D Wade, and Lebron, pretty good company.