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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: C-BLUE on July 17, 2009, 01:43:35 PM
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http://thisis50.com/profiles/blogs/tony-yayo-says-gunit-isnt
fucc Game
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lol
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lol didnt he apologize to 50? who the fuck is g-unit nowaday, 50 and yayo? lol.
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and banks and hot rod and 40 glocc and spi and mob deep nad nyce and m fox i think thats it
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but what is he doing appollogizing to a nigga he said was trying to stop him from feeding his family period? what kind of sense does that make at all?
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Game is a seriously fucked up brain dead person.
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LoL.. Tony Yayo is 50 Cent's bitch. Who lied to this clown and told him he could rap....
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LoL.. Tony Yayo is 50 Cent's bitch. Who lied to this clown and told him he could rap....
50 cent?
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Well, I think some of what Yayo is saying here makes sense. But at the same time, right after he says he's not a 50 Cent "yes-man," he pretty much admits to "playing second fiddle" to 50 Cent. I also think he overestimates the current value of the G-Unit brand. And some of that is probably due to the G-Unot campagin. But he's also glossing over the fact that after the first time 50 Cent and Game "made peace," G-Unit went out of their way to try to ruin Game's career. It seems like Lloyd Banks in particular went after Game lyrically. I think that there's still some animosity there that their plan wasn't entirely successful. And while I agree with Yayo that I'm sure the group was full of massive egos, I think that he's also glossing over the idea that ultimately The Game was dropped from the group because the rest of the group didn't like him-bottom line. If memory serves me, their excuse at the time was that Game wasn't a "team player" because he personally didn't have beef with Fat Joe, Jadakiss, or Nas. (It's funny to me how even though 50's mentor feels the same way as Game about the aforementioned people, it's never caused 50 to want to dissolve his business relationship with him).
I don't really know why Game apologized. But, regardless of whether or not G-Unit accepts it, maybe they can at least move on past the beef. It's all getting tired.
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If memory serves me, their excuse at the time was that Game wasn't a "team player" because he personally didn't have beef with Fat Joe, Jadakiss, or Nas. (It's funny to me how even though 50's mentor feels the same way as Game about the aforementioned people, it's never caused 50 to want to dissolve his business relationship with him).
That seems like the answer is right there in your statement. I'm assuming that you're talking about Dre when you say "mentor" but thing is while Dre may or may not feel that way, he didn't go on the radio and say that. People give Yayo so much shit but from my view, he's doing things how it should be. If any one of your favorite rappers had a homeboy on his label who was doing that, you'd say he was a loyal dude but if the guy they following is someone you don't like, he's an "ass-kisser". I mean if you're best friend is an artist on your label, of course, he's gonna side with you on your beefs. To me, it seemed like the radio interview was the straw that broke the camel's back in the Game-50 relationship. Both of them have said there were disagreements well before that so it's not like it was the isolated incident of him saying he'd work with so and so that lead to him being removed from the label.
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So wait.. He rather be always below 50 cent (in short his bitch) then be on the same level or possibly higher? LOL! G-Unit = just another fade 4 wiggaz and fucking house nigga scum who tried to act like they down again. I swear doesn't even matter anymore. G-Unit as a brand has weaken as a whole, 50 cent is basically the only 1 left who gets any play or any attention, if it wasn't for the constant Disses from game then G-Unit would fade out Completely.
I mean its completely debatable how game would of ended up with in G-Unit I mean shit least the nigga was real with himself and didn't want to be second best. Even if it really hurt his carrier. Doctors Advocate was getting more rotation then the next crappy club single G-Unit and 50 cent was putting out. I mean shit, it sorta looks like the split both help and hurt the carriers.
I mean the entire 50 cent, G-Unit and Game thing was basically fueled by disses, the controversy from the feud and that's about it.You take out that aspect, they just be average rappers. 50 would be considered another Club rapper in a game full of that crap. G-Unit wouldn't be seen as anything special, The Game well he'd just be seen as another west coast rapper struggling in the game were its always been slanted for faggot new york/south artist.
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If memory serves me, their excuse at the time was that Game wasn't a "team player" because he personally didn't have beef with Fat Joe, Jadakiss, or Nas. (It's funny to me how even though 50's mentor feels the same way as Game about the aforementioned people, it's never caused 50 to want to dissolve his business relationship with him).
That seems like the answer is right there in your statement. I'm assuming that you're talking about Dre when you say "mentor"
He could of mean Eminem because he's worked with Nas, Fat Joe & Jadakiss.
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If memory serves me, their excuse at the time was that Game wasn't a "team player" because he personally didn't have beef with Fat Joe, Jadakiss, or Nas. (It's funny to me how even though 50's mentor feels the same way as Game about the aforementioned people, it's never caused 50 to want to dissolve his business relationship with him).
That seems like the answer is right there in your statement. I'm assuming that you're talking about Dre when you say "mentor"
He could of mean Eminem because he's worked with Nas, Fat Joe & Jadakiss.
Yeah. Eminem is who I was referring to specifically. Although Dr. Dre would also apply. I used Eminem though because he actually rapped with Fat Joe on the "Lean Back Remix." And has spoken very highly of Nas as well, in past interviews. And this has never seemed to have caused a rift between he and 50. I was merely using the example to point out the holes in 50's logic here. And to make the argument that this was never the real reason Game was dismissed from the group. It was more just a flimsy excuse. The real reason was much more simple. G-Unit just didn't like Game.
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em and dre put 50 on so in order to compare situations you would have to consider if he went and dealt with people they weren't coool with, like benzino,suge, etc........ and he didnt, and looking from that stand point he was not asking game to do anything he wouldnt do as well.game stepped into 50's light, as game shined a percent of the rays were reflections of 50's shine and when he chose or sounded willing to share that with 50's enemies, its a direct slap in the face. for game, standing next to 50 had majoor benefits, therefore 50's enemies being able to stand next to game meant they'd benefit from 50 as well and that is simply disrespectful. it has nothing to do with liking one or the other, it is what it is.
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em and dre put 50 on so in order to compare situations you would have to consider if he went and dealt with people they weren't coool with, like benzino,suge, etc........ and he didnt, and looking from that stand point he was not asking game to do anything he wouldnt do as well.game stepped into 50's light, as game shined a percent of the rays were reflections of 50's shine and when he chose or sounded willing to share that with 50's enemies, its a direct slap in the face. for game, standing next to 50 had majoor benefits, therefore 50's enemies being able to stand next to game meant they'd benefit from 50 as well and that is simply disrespectful. it has nothing to do with liking one or the other, it is what it is.
Well, I agree with your point that 50 Cent obviously took it as a "slap in the face" that Game seemed to be willing to work with people that 50 Cent had a problem with at the time. But I disagree with you that it had nothing to do with (at least most of) the members of G-Unit not liking Game.
As I understand it, Game started out exclusively as an Aftermath artist, not a member of G-Unit. He was added to G-Unit at Dr. Dre's request, whereas Tony Yayo, Lloyd Banks, and 50 Cent had started the group together. Game's position in the group could be likened to when Record industry executives used to make "boy bands" by arbitrarily putting several people together and telling them they were a group. In other words, he had no past relationship with the other members of G-Unit. At it's best, it was only ever a business relationship.
Even before the official word broke that 50 had dropped Game from G-Unit, there was rampant reports of confrontations between Game and the other members. Lloyd Banks, reportedly couldn't stand Game.
The point I was trying to make is that in my opinion, that is what ultimately led to Game being dropped from G-Unit. Maybe Game's willingness to work with 50's "enemies" was the last straw. But I still think it was misleading, and a bit hypocritical of 50 to present it that way. If he had just said, "Game was dropped because things just weren't working out with the group," I think that would have been more honest than how he approached it.
I was only using Eminem's relationship with Fat Joe, Nas, and Jadakiss to illustrate that if it had really been a question of betrayal; and it really went against 50's principles, he would have dissolved his relationship with Eminem as well, regardless of how much money it would have cost him.
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Well, I agree with your point that 50 Cent obviously took it as a "slap in the face" that Game seemed to be willing to work with people that 50 Cent had a problem with at the time. But I disagree with you that it had nothing to do with (at least most of) the members of G-Unit not liking Game.
As I understand it, Game started out exclusively as an Aftermath artist, not a member of G-Unit. He was added to G-Unit at Dr. Dre's request, whereas Tony Yayo, Lloyd Banks, and 50 Cent had started the group together. Game's position in the group could be likened to when Record industry executives used to make "boy bands" by arbitrarily putting several people together and telling them they were a group. In other words, he had no past relationship with the other members of G-Unit. At it's best, it was only ever a business relationship.
Even before the official word broke that 50 had dropped Game from G-Unit, there was rampant reports of confrontations between Game and the other members. Lloyd Banks, reportedly couldn't stand Game.
The point I was trying to make is that in my opinion, that is what ultimately led to Game being dropped from G-Unit. Maybe Game's willingness to work with 50's "enemies" was the last straw. But I still think it was misleading, and a bit hypocritical of 50 to present it that way. If he had just said, "Game was dropped because things just weren't working out with the group," I think that would have been more honest than how he approached it.
I was only using Eminem's relationship with Fat Joe, Nas, and Jadakiss to illustrate that if it had really been a question of betrayal; and it really went against 50's principles, he would have dissolved his relationship with Eminem as well, regardless of how much money it would have cost him.
I'm pretty sure that it was Jimmy who put Game with G-Unit, not Dre. I don't think he was ever in the "group" but part of the G-Unit label. This has been discussed before and there really hasn't been any confirmation either way. Young Buck was in the group. Game, I'm not sure about. I don't think 50 ever denied there were problems with Game besides the comment on the radio. He said something in an Vibe article prior to it. I never heard nothing about Lloyd Banks having problems with Game. I know there was a lot of people reading into the fact that Lloyd was the only 1 from G-Unit whose name wasn't in the "thank you" notes in Game's booklet but he shouted him out about a dozen times on the record so I think it was just an error. I think the issues were more with 50. Jimmy put Game over there because 50 had momentum and knew how to build promotion for the G-Unit brand. I think the problem was Game was looking to build his own brand, independent of G-Unit, and presumably went about it in a way that clashed with how 50 wanted to do things. I've never heard 50 Cent say that his exclusive reason for booting Game was the Nas-Jada-Joe comment. People look at The Game thing from a strictly personal standpoint sometime. If you're a business man and you've just made your issues with certain people public and one of your own artists is making public his desire to work with these people, it's damaging to the whole way your business is viewed. It allows Game to profit off the exposure 50 generated for him and appeal to the G-Unit fanbase while at the same time, he can seperate himself from the label and profit off working with people who are opposing them.
In addition to Em being 50's boss, the collabos with the artists mentioned were all mostly done before the beef popped up. If you remember, DJ Green Lantern, Em's DJ at the time made comments to Jadakiss about how the record he made against 50 was hot. Eminem ended up severing ties with him over this so while he may not have a specific issue with Jada, he understood what needed to be done. From a business perspective for anyone associated with Dre or Eminem to say something that could damage 50's credibility is bad for their business and while neither one has stated this publicly, their actions have always seemed to show an understanding of this.
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Well, I agree with your point that 50 Cent obviously took it as a "slap in the face" that Game seemed to be willing to work with people that 50 Cent had a problem with at the time. But I disagree with you that it had nothing to do with (at least most of) the members of G-Unit not liking Game.
As I understand it, Game started out exclusively as an Aftermath artist, not a member of G-Unit. He was added to G-Unit at Dr. Dre's request, whereas Tony Yayo, Lloyd Banks, and 50 Cent had started the group together. Game's position in the group could be likened to when Record industry executives used to make "boy bands" by arbitrarily putting several people together and telling them they were a group. In other words, he had no past relationship with the other members of G-Unit. At it's best, it was only ever a business relationship.
Even before the official word broke that 50 had dropped Game from G-Unit, there was rampant reports of confrontations between Game and the other members. Lloyd Banks, reportedly couldn't stand Game.
The point I was trying to make is that in my opinion, that is what ultimately led to Game being dropped from G-Unit. Maybe Game's willingness to work with 50's "enemies" was the last straw. But I still think it was misleading, and a bit hypocritical of 50 to present it that way. If he had just said, "Game was dropped because things just weren't working out with the group," I think that would have been more honest than how he approached it.
I was only using Eminem's relationship with Fat Joe, Nas, and Jadakiss to illustrate that if it had really been a question of betrayal; and it really went against 50's principles, he would have dissolved his relationship with Eminem as well, regardless of how much money it would have cost him.
I'm pretty sure that it was Jimmy who put Game with G-Unit, not Dre. I don't think he was ever in the "group" but part of the G-Unit label. This has been discussed before and there really hasn't been any confirmation either way. Young Buck was in the group. Game, I'm not sure about. I don't think 50 ever denied there were problems with Game besides the comment on the radio. He said something in an Vibe article prior to it. I never heard nothing about Lloyd Banks having problems with Game. I know there was a lot of people reading into the fact that Lloyd was the only 1 from G-Unit whose name wasn't in the "thank you" notes in Game's booklet but he shouted him out about a dozen times on the record so I think it was just an error. I think the issues were more with 50. Jimmy put Game over there because 50 had momentum and knew how to build promotion for the G-Unit brand. I think the problem was Game was looking to build his own brand, independent of G-Unit, and presumably went about it in a way that clashed with how 50 wanted to do things. I've never heard 50 Cent say that his exclusive reason for booting Game was the Nas-Jada-Joe comment. People look at The Game thing from a strictly personal standpoint sometime. If you're a business man and you've just made your issues with certain people public and one of your own artists is making public his desire to work with these people, it's damaging to the whole way your business is viewed. It allows Game to profit off the exposure 50 generated for him and appeal to the G-Unit fanbase while at the same time, he can seperate himself from the label and profit off working with people who are opposing them.
In addition to Em being 50's boss, the collabos with the artists mentioned were all mostly done before the beef popped up. If you remember, DJ Green Lantern, Em's DJ at the time made comments to Jadakiss about how the record he made against 50 was hot. Eminem ended up severing ties with him over this so while he may not have a specific issue with Jada, he understood what needed to be done. From a business perspective for anyone associated with Dre or Eminem to say something that could damage 50's credibility is bad for their business and while neither one has stated this publicly, their actions have always seemed to show an understanding of this.
All good points. In all honesty, you may be right about it being Jimmy Iovine rather than Dr. Dre who moved Game over to the G-Unit label. I had always heard it was Dr. Dre, but I don't have anything substantial to back that up, so it may have been Jimmy Iovine.
Regarding the situation between Game and Lloyd Banks, dubcnn had conducted an interview with 50 shortly before his and Game's falling out. To his credit, 50 Cent addressed it about as fairly as I thought he could have at the time. It was a bit of a "diplomatic" answer, but he did in some measure acknowledge that the problem was there. I'm paraphrasing, but he said something to the effect of The Game and Lloyd Banks worked together and that was it. They didn't really need to have any other relationship, outside of working together in the group.
Lloyd Banks made his feelings about Game public in a freestyle diss aimed at him on Rap City, shortly after the first time 50 Cent and Game had attempted to reconcile their
differences. I believe that freestyle was the first of the back-and-forth diss tracks that both sides leveled at each other for what would end up being quite a while.
I believe the issue of Game's dismissal from the group for his comments about Nas and Fat Joe, was addressed in an interview that Hot 97 Radio Station (I believe) conducted with 50 Cent, which was in fact where 50 first announced that Game was dropped from the group. But I agree that that issue wasn't exclusively the reason Game was dropped. In fact, I think that that particular incident was used more as an excuse to just go ahead and get rid of Game, as I think most of the other members of G-Unit had wanted to do for quite a while, anyway. I think that personal turbulence from within the group is mostly what would account for Game being dropped. Although you may also have a point that Game's ambition in starting his own label may have been a factor (as I believe it was with Young Buck).
As I said before, when you have a situation where three people basically have founded a group together, they're in all likelihood going to have more invested in the group than someone who was added to it by a record label executive. This is just speculation on my part, but I think there may have been some resentment about that even from the beginning.