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Title: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: sofdark on July 17, 2009, 10:53:03 PM
I remember someone said that DOC was the ghost writer for Snoops classic album "Doggystyle" and I wanna know if anybody has the source that confirms the information
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 17, 2009, 11:28:21 PM
Nope. No ghostwriters for Doggystyle. D.O.C. helped Snoop format her verses and come up with ideas but Snoop wrote that album.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 06:25:48 AM
Gangstaboogy, Snoop did not write "Lodi Dodi"


Slick Rick wrote that



as for the rest, there's no credits listed (unlkike Chronic) so we'll never know....it's best to think Snoop wrote the rest but who knows
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Okka on July 18, 2009, 06:41:47 AM
I think Snoop Dogg wrote his own verses with some help from The D.O.C.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 07:19:38 AM
I think Snoop Dogg wrote his own verses with some help from The D.O.C.

Lodi Dodi was slick rick

as for the rest of the album we don't know HOW MUCH involvement DOC had...no credits in the booklet
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: BIGWORM on July 18, 2009, 08:25:45 AM
Man that album was full of ghost writers and producers.

The D.O.C.
RBX
Lady Of Rage

All co wrote with Snoop.

Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Okka on July 18, 2009, 08:47:12 AM
Man that album was full of ghost writers and producers.

The D.O.C.
RBX
Lady Of Rage

All co wrote with Snoop.

How the fuck you know that? I'm pretty sure Snoop Dogg handled most of the writing. Nima should ask Snoop Dogg about this next time he interviews him.

Lodi Dodi was slick rick

Yeah, Snoop Dogg just copied the whole song and twisted some rhymes.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
while I certainly would not be surprised if RBX and Lady of Rage helped write for Snoop, where's your proof Big Worm?
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on July 18, 2009, 09:50:59 AM
Y'all acting like Snoop's rhymes were on some Illmatic type lyricism... let's be real his voice, delivery, flow is what made that album classic along with the production not his lyricism. I don't think he had a ghostwriter, only D.O.C. coaching him which D.O.C. has admitted.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 09:52:53 AM
Y'all acting like Snoop's rhymes were on some Illmatic type lyricism... let's be real his voice, delivery, flow is what made that album classic along with the production not his lyricism. I don't think he had a ghostwriter, only D.O.C. coaching him which D.O.C. has admitted.

the best lyrical verses on that album were Kurupt's "for all my niggaz..." and "doggy dogg world" verses + slick rick's Lodi Dodi


but snoops lyrics were def above ANYTHING he's spat in the 15 years since
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: NillerTheKid on July 18, 2009, 10:11:40 AM
Y'all acting like Snoop's rhymes were on some Illmatic type lyricism... let's be real his voice, delivery, flow is what made that album classic along with the production not his lyricism. I don't think he had a ghostwriter, only D.O.C. coaching him which D.O.C. has admitted.
but snoops lyrics were def above ANYTHING he's spat in the 15 years since
that doesn't say much  ;)
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Okka on July 18, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
Justin (We Fly High) should ask Snoop Dogg about this. I really wanna know if he wrote all of his own verses or did he use ghostwriters.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 18, 2009, 12:24:03 PM
as for the rest, there's no credits listed (unlkike Chronic) so we'll never know....it's best to think Snoop wrote the rest but who knows
Why does everyone say this? There's no actual credits on the album itself but if you look at Death Row compilations (most noteably "Death Row's Greatest Hits"), there are full production credits for every song. I remember someone once said they intentially didn't break it down so they could hide the fact that Dre didn't produce certain songs but Dre is fully credited as the producer on every song. Snoop is also given full writing credit as well.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 12:38:50 PM
as for the rest, there's no credits listed (unlkike Chronic) so we'll never know....it's best to think Snoop wrote the rest but who knows
Why does everyone say this? There's no actual credits on the album itself but if you look at Death Row compilations (most noteably "Death Row's Greatest Hits"), there are full production credits for every song. I remember someone once said they intentially didn't break it down so they could hide the fact that Dre didn't produce certain songs but Dre is fully credited as the producer on every song. Snoop is also given full writing credit as well.

i dont buy it being to hide Dre's beats, probably more of them wanting to put in the comic in there

daz has contradicted himself on producing songs and Warren g said he had came upw ith the skeleton for "aint no fun" but that dre "took that motherfucker to another level'



death row's greatest hits confirms

-Slick rick aka ricky walters gets credit for Lodi Dodi  (duh...we heard it in 1984 lol)

-Snoop is credited for writing The Shiznit, Gin and Juice, Ain't No Fun, Doggy Dogg World and What's My Name


and Dre credited for each beat


leaving us without having credits for

"g funk intro"
"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)
"for all my niggaz..."
"g'z and hustlaz"
"pump pump"
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: G-Funk on July 18, 2009, 12:53:19 PM
as for the rest, there's no credits listed (unlkike Chronic) so we'll never know....it's best to think Snoop wrote the rest but who knows
Why does everyone say this? There's no actual credits on the album itself but if you look at Death Row compilations (most noteably "Death Row's Greatest Hits"), there are full production credits for every song. I remember someone once said they intentially didn't break it down so they could hide the fact that Dre didn't produce certain songs but Dre is fully credited as the producer on every song. Snoop is also given full writing credit as well.
i dont buy it being to hide Dre's beats, probably more of them wanting to put in the comic in there
daz has contradicted himself on producing songs and Warren g said he had came upw ith the skeleton for "aint no fun" but that dre "took that motherfucker to another level'
death row's greatest hits confirms
-Slick rick aka ricky walters gets credit for Lodi Dodi  (duh...we heard it in 1984 lol)
-Snoop is credited for writing The Shiznit, Gin and Juice, Ain't No Fun, Doggy Dogg World and What's My Name
and Dre credited for each beat
leaving us without having credits for
"g funk intro"
"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)
"for all my niggaz..."
"g'z and hustlaz"
"pump pump"

I think Daz did additional production for Serial Killa & All My Niggaz.
And I heard somewhere that RBX co-wrote Serial Killa.

On a side note, I heard Gin & Juice was not produced by Dr. Dre, but was ghost produced.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Okka on July 18, 2009, 01:11:20 PM
On a side note, I heard Gin & Juice was not produced by Dr. Dre, but was ghost produced.

Yeah, Daz Dillinger said that Emmanuel Dean produced "What's My Name" and "Gin & Juice" (check out the "DPG Eulogy" document)

"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)

Yeah, that's kind of odd. Only think D.O.C. says on the track is "Serial Killa".
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 18, 2009, 01:37:03 PM
I thought Emmanuel Dean's beef was not getting credit for his work. I don't remember him saying he "produced" those songs. I recall something about him playing certain things for Dre that he liked but instead of getting proper credit, he got listed as "Porkchop" in the special thanks section. I'll have to rewatch it again.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 02:18:24 PM
as for the rest, there's no credits listed (unlkike Chronic) so we'll never know....it's best to think Snoop wrote the rest but who knows
Why does everyone say this? There's no actual credits on the album itself but if you look at Death Row compilations (most noteably "Death Row's Greatest Hits"), there are full production credits for every song. I remember someone once said they intentially didn't break it down so they could hide the fact that Dre didn't produce certain songs but Dre is fully credited as the producer on every song. Snoop is also given full writing credit as well.
i dont buy it being to hide Dre's beats, probably more of them wanting to put in the comic in there
daz has contradicted himself on producing songs and Warren g said he had came upw ith the skeleton for "aint no fun" but that dre "took that motherfucker to another level'
death row's greatest hits confirms
-Slick rick aka ricky walters gets credit for Lodi Dodi  (duh...we heard it in 1984 lol)
-Snoop is credited for writing The Shiznit, Gin and Juice, Ain't No Fun, Doggy Dogg World and What's My Name
and Dre credited for each beat
leaving us without having credits for
"g funk intro"
"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)
"for all my niggaz..."
"g'z and hustlaz"
"pump pump"

I think Daz did additional production for Serial Killa & All My Niggaz.
And I heard somewhere that RBX co-wrote Serial Killa.

On a side note, I heard Gin & Juice was not produced by Dr. Dre, but was ghost produced.

i dont buy the gin and juice thing - has dre's sound to it


DOC had to have wrote something on Serial Killa, no other way he'd be listed
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: G-Funk on July 18, 2009, 02:19:23 PM
as for the rest, there's no credits listed (unlkike Chronic) so we'll never know....it's best to think Snoop wrote the rest but who knows
Why does everyone say this? There's no actual credits on the album itself but if you look at Death Row compilations (most noteably "Death Row's Greatest Hits"), there are full production credits for every song. I remember someone once said they intentially didn't break it down so they could hide the fact that Dre didn't produce certain songs but Dre is fully credited as the producer on every song. Snoop is also given full writing credit as well.
i dont buy it being to hide Dre's beats, probably more of them wanting to put in the comic in there
daz has contradicted himself on producing songs and Warren g said he had came upw ith the skeleton for "aint no fun" but that dre "took that motherfucker to another level'
death row's greatest hits confirms
-Slick rick aka ricky walters gets credit for Lodi Dodi  (duh...we heard it in 1984 lol)
-Snoop is credited for writing The Shiznit, Gin and Juice, Ain't No Fun, Doggy Dogg World and What's My Name
and Dre credited for each beat
leaving us without having credits for
"g funk intro"
"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)
"for all my niggaz..."
"g'z and hustlaz"
"pump pump"

I think Daz did additional production for Serial Killa & All My Niggaz.
And I heard somewhere that RBX co-wrote Serial Killa.

On a side note, I heard Gin & Juice was not produced by Dr. Dre, but was ghost produced.

i dont buy the gin and juice thing - its not very hard to take Atomic Dog and flip it lol

gin and juice didnt utilize Atomic Dog.. unless you're mentioning What's My name
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Okka on July 18, 2009, 02:22:51 PM
I hope y'all people remember that producin' doesn't mean makin' the beat. Snoop said that Dre produced "What Would You Do", but it doesn't mean he made the beat.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: G-Funk on July 18, 2009, 02:26:30 PM
I hope y'all people remember that producin' doesn't mean makin' the beat. Snoop said that Dre produced "What Would You Do", but it doesn't mean he made the beat.

i thought Daz was credited as the main producer for that song?
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 18, 2009, 02:29:54 PM
Is it 1994?
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 18, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
There is a Dr. Dre produced version of "What Would U Do" on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. The original version was produced by Daz.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 02:38:59 PM
Is it 1994?

great addition to the thread
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 18, 2009, 02:43:23 PM
How many times are you guys going to discuss the same fucking shit over and over and over.Seriously its 2009 who gives a shit.You weren't there nobody will ever know who wrote what or who produced what.Get over it.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 02:47:03 PM
How many times are you guys going to discuss the same fucking shit over and over and over.Seriously its 2009 who gives a shit.You weren't there nobody will ever know who wrote what or who produced what.Get over it.


well

1-i didn't start the thread, so obviously more people care about this than you not caring

2-this is one of the top 5 albums ever made, lets not just act like its some random wackass mixtape featuring Will Smiff Dogg and Spider Locc

3-if you don't like the thread, get out of it and go to another
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 18, 2009, 02:49:55 PM
death row's greatest hits confirms

-Slick rick aka ricky walters gets credit for Lodi Dodi  (duh...we heard it in 1984 lol)

-Snoop is credited for writing The Shiznit, Gin and Juice, Ain't No Fun, Doggy Dogg World and What's My Name


and Dre credited for each beat


leaving us without having credits for

"g funk intro"
"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)
"for all my niggaz..."
"g'z and hustlaz"
"pump pump"

Dude, you mentioned "Lodi Dodi" like 3 times...we know Snoop didn't write that, it was a remake! And DOC was on "Serial Killa", who do you think the raspy voiced dude was that was saying "Seriaaaal Killaaaa" was?
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Okka on July 18, 2009, 02:51:52 PM
There is a Dr. Dre produced version of "What Would U Do" on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. The original version was produced by Daz.

I know but im 100% sure Snoop Dogg wasn't talkin about that version ::)
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 18, 2009, 02:52:53 PM
Hack shut the fuck up and go listen to some wack ass Mc juice and esham.The point is theirs probably 500 threads about this exact topic already.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Rick James on July 18, 2009, 02:56:13 PM
The point is theirs probably 500 threads about this exact topic already.

probably because someone always has to interfere and start an argument in between the thread (you), thus people tuning out, forgetting, and making a new topic months later asking the same questions.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 18, 2009, 03:09:32 PM
Or its because its a question that can never be answered because nobody was there.Get over it you groupies.MOVE ON!
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 08:20:39 PM
death row's greatest hits confirms

-Slick rick aka ricky walters gets credit for Lodi Dodi  (duh...we heard it in 1984 lol)

-Snoop is credited for writing The Shiznit, Gin and Juice, Ain't No Fun, Doggy Dogg World and What's My Name


and Dre credited for each beat


leaving us without having credits for

"g funk intro"
"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)
"for all my niggaz..."
"g'z and hustlaz"
"pump pump"

Dude, you mentioned "Lodi Dodi" like 3 times...we know Snoop didn't write that, it was a remake! And DOC was on "Serial Killa", who do you think the raspy voiced dude was that was saying "Seriaaaal Killaaaa" was?


did you know Lodi Dodi was a slick rick cover??  ???
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 08:22:05 PM
http://www.omnipelagos.com/entry?n=doggystyle


http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/do/doggystyle.htm



"DOC: Ghost-writer of raps; preformer"



gangstaboogy, wanna explain that since you know everything apparently
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 18, 2009, 08:28:22 PM
Or its because its a question that can never be answered because nobody was there.Get over it you groupies.MOVE ON!
THEN GET OUT OF THE THREAD LMAO
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 18, 2009, 08:41:59 PM
Go smoke some crack and memorize production credits hack
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 18, 2009, 10:25:37 PM
Go smoke some crack and memorize production credits hack
Wouldn't smoking the crack be counter-productive to the memorizing thing?
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: acgrundy on July 18, 2009, 11:20:58 PM
gz and hustlers is a freestyle, no writers, same with shiznit

like the one dude mentioned its not like this is some crazy lyrical album...it was snoops voice and flow and beats that made this the amazing album it was.  the lyrics throughout the album are pretty simple
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Deep Cover on July 19, 2009, 05:18:58 AM
http://www.omnipelagos.com/entry?n=doggystyle


http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/do/doggystyle.htm



"DOC: Ghost-writer of raps; preformer"



gangstaboogy, wanna explain that since you know everything apparently

For all the haters who want to take out Snoop's credit from that album, go read some real sources... For example: Tha Formula's long ass quality interview with the man himself: The D.O.C.! He gave a lot of inside info on Doggystyle.
Link: http://www.thaformula.com/doc_ruthless_to_death_row_thaformula_music.html

Of course Snoop of now is NOWHERE near the Snoop of that time. He could, but he's not that hungry anymore, which for us fans is a shame. But the little kid's of today, don't really know what hiphop is all about. Face it guy's: It would be a disgrace comparing Snoop of 1992-1995 with your hero's of today. Snoop at that time was on top of the world! He would outfreestyle your favorite group's best written song. Even if that song is full of all kinds of multis/quadruples/metaphors. Snoop's MC skills, flow and charisma would fuck your favourite song up.

What people forget nowadays, is that when I hear a song for the first time, I don't wanna analyse the song to find out if I like it. "O yeah, he said this or he said that. Well the beat is not all that, and the flow is not all this, but the rhymes are wowww" Fuck that shit! I just wanna hear it, and be shocked and awed by the first sound wave that hits my ear drums. It's all about the combination of all aspects! I greatly respect and enjoy a crazy lyrical song, but only when the whole combination is great. The song should be constructed as a whole song, and not some beat and a guy who's rapping over it. The beat should create the flow, the flow should create the lyrics, and the flow combined with the lyrics should enlighten the beat.

And people who don't know what I'm talking about, your just to young to know the difference. You wasn't their when Snoop for example was at his best.

Link: http://www.thaformula.com/doc_ruthless_to_death_row_thaformula_music.html
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 19, 2009, 05:20:50 AM
Go smoke some crack and memorize production credits hack
Wouldn't smoking the crack be counter-productive to the memorizing thing?

LMAO +1  that guy is a jackass
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 19, 2009, 05:23:03 AM
http://www.omnipelagos.com/entry?n=doggystyle


http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/do/doggystyle.htm



"DOC: Ghost-writer of raps; preformer"



gangstaboogy, wanna explain that since you know everything apparently

For all the haters who want to take out Snoop's credit from that album, go read some real sources... For example: Tha Formula's long ass quality interview with the man himself: The D.O.C.! He gave a lot of inside info on Doggystyle.
Link: http://www.thaformula.com/doc_ruthless_to_death_row_thaformula_music.html

Of course Snoop of now is NOWHERE near the Snoop of that time. He could, but he's not that hungry anymore, which for us fans is a shame. But the little kid's of today, don't really know what hiphop is all about. Face it guy's: It would be a disgrace comparing Snoop of 1992-1995 with your hero's of today. Snoop at that time was on top of the world! He would outfreestyle your favorite group's best written song. Even if that song is full of all kinds of multis/quadruples/metaphors. Snoop's MC skills, flow and charisma would fuck your favourite song up.

What people forget nowadays, is that when I hear a song for the first time, I don't wanna analyse the song to find out if I like it. "O yeah, he said this or he said that. Well the beat is not all that, and the flow is not all this, but the rhymes are wowww" Fuck that shit! I just wanna hear it, and be shocked and awed by the first sound wave that hits my ear drums. It's all about the combination of all aspects! I greatly respect and enjoy a crazy lyrical song, but only when the whole combination is great. The song should be constructed as a whole song, and not some beat and a guy who's rapping over it. The beat should create the flow, the flow should create the lyrics, and the flow combined with the lyrics should enlighten the beat.

And people who don't know what I'm talking about, your just to young to know the difference. You wasn't their when Snoop for example was at his best.

Link: http://www.thaformula.com/doc_ruthless_to_death_row_thaformula_music.html



so your saying Snoop could out-freestyle Nas or Biggie or Wu?  other big artists at the time
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: JD Bastin on July 19, 2009, 06:13:23 AM
so basicaly snoop wrote some and DOC wrote some for him

but we wont ever know who wrote what unless they tell us in a interview

right?????
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Deep Cover on July 19, 2009, 07:25:01 AM
http://www.omnipelagos.com/entry?n=doggystyle


http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/do/doggystyle.htm



"DOC: Ghost-writer of raps; preformer"



gangstaboogy, wanna explain that since you know everything apparently

For all the haters who want to take out Snoop's credit from that album, go read some real sources... For example: Tha Formula's long ass quality interview with the man himself: The D.O.C.! He gave a lot of inside info on Doggystyle.
Link: http://www.thaformula.com/doc_ruthless_to_death_row_thaformula_music.html

Of course Snoop of now is NOWHERE near the Snoop of that time. He could, but he's not that hungry anymore, which for us fans is a shame. But the little kid's of today, don't really know what hiphop is all about. Face it guy's: It would be a disgrace comparing Snoop of 1992-1995 with your hero's of today. Snoop at that time was on top of the world! He would outfreestyle your favorite group's best written song. Even if that song is full of all kinds of multis/quadruples/metaphors. Snoop's MC skills, flow and charisma would fuck your favourite song up.

What people forget nowadays, is that when I hear a song for the first time, I don't wanna analyse the song to find out if I like it. "O yeah, he said this or he said that. Well the beat is not all that, and the flow is not all this, but the rhymes are wowww" Fuck that shit! I just wanna hear it, and be shocked and awed by the first sound wave that hits my ear drums. It's all about the combination of all aspects! I greatly respect and enjoy a crazy lyrical song, but only when the whole combination is great. The song should be constructed as a whole song, and not some beat and a guy who's rapping over it. The beat should create the flow, the flow should create the lyrics, and the flow combined with the lyrics should enlighten the beat.

And people who don't know what I'm talking about, your just to young to know the difference. You wasn't their when Snoop for example was at his best.

Link: http://www.thaformula.com/doc_ruthless_to_death_row_thaformula_music.html



so your saying Snoop could out-freestyle Nas or Biggie or Wu?  other big artists at the time

First of all, I was talking about your favorite group as in Slaughterhouse and all its members.
And second, the names your mentioned are other nice examples of people who where untouchable MC's in their primes, although I prefer Nas and Wu in their prime more than Biggie. Snoop easily could out-freestyle their freestyling skills all combined (yes you heard it, if you don't know, go teach yourself). But their best album songs (Nas, Wu and others) are arguably on the same level, depending on your mood. For chilling, cruising through the sun, smoking, clubbing, nothing beats Snoop's songs from that time (of course I'm only talking about hiphop now). For other moods, other artist's songs are more suitable to listen to. The only difference between their best albums is that when I play Doggystyle, I just press play and nothin else, while with the other albums of the guys you mentioned, I skip some tracks, depending on the mood. But that's based on everyone's own experience of course.

On snoop's MC-ing skills: go listen to Tha Shiznit and Gz and hustlas, and try to realize that he's actually freestyling. Tha Shiznit is rapping about nothing, but the way he flows through that song, and the way he gets more and more wilder and crazier throughout the song till the grand finale: the third verse.. That is PURE HipHop

The only thing I'm trying to say is that you CANNOT deny Snoop's genius in his prime. If you do that, you simply don't know, and I cannot take you serious..
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: JD Bastin on July 19, 2009, 09:32:18 AM


The only thing I'm trying to say is that you CANNOT deny Snoop's genius in his prime. If you do that, you simply don't know, and I cannot take you serious..


2-this is one of the top 5 albums ever made, lets not just act like its some random wackass mixtape featuring Will Smiff Dogg and Spider Locc





i dunn think he was
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Efrain on July 19, 2009, 01:28:16 PM
There is a Dr. Dre produced version of "What Would U Do" on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. The original version was produced by Daz.


Not produced by Dre. He's credited with mixing that version, Daz is still the producer credited on the NBK soundtrack.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 19, 2009, 01:53:26 PM
Deep Cover


give me one example of a great Snoop freestyle...and please don't use the one over the "Bitches aint shit" beat because that was a terrible example of "freestyling"



Snoop was great with his flow and rapping...but off the head?? no.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Okka on July 19, 2009, 01:59:19 PM
There is a Dr. Dre produced version of "What Would U Do" on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. The original version was produced by Daz.

Not produced by Dre. He's credited with mixing that version, Daz is still the producer credited on the NBK soundtrack.

Yeah, it's the same version that's on "Murder Was The Case" but there's also that "Dr. Dre Remix" of it, which is almost the same as the original. I'm guessin Daz Dillinger made the beat and Dr. Dre produced the song, just like Snoop Dogg said in one of his interview with DubCNN.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 19, 2009, 02:23:50 PM
I thought Emmanuel Dean's beef was not getting credit for his work. I don't remember him saying he "produced" those songs. I recall something about him playing certain things for Dre that he liked but instead of getting proper credit, he got listed as "Porkchop" in the special thanks section. I'll have to rewatch it again.

where did you hear that that emmanuel dean was credited as "porkchop" in thanks-section?why not "emmanuel dean"?

why was d.o.c. listed on "serial killa"?even if he wrote something, why is he listed as "featuring-artist"?

the d.o.c used ta help snoop, evrybody knows that but yall know dat snoop wrote tha whole album "with a little help of his friends".
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 19, 2009, 02:28:09 PM
death row's greatest hits confirms

-Slick rick aka ricky walters gets credit for Lodi Dodi  (duh...we heard it in 1984 lol)

-Snoop is credited for writing The Shiznit, Gin and Juice, Ain't No Fun, Doggy Dogg World and What's My Name


and Dre credited for each beat


leaving us without having credits for

"g funk intro"
"serial killa"  (notice how the back of the CD says it features DOC...hmm)
"for all my niggaz..."
"g'z and hustlaz"
"pump pump"

Dude, you mentioned "Lodi Dodi" like 3 times...we know Snoop didn't write that, it was a remake! And DOC was on "Serial Killa", who do you think the raspy voiced dude was that was saying "Seriaaaal Killaaaa" was?


did you know Lodi Dodi was a slick rick cover??  ???

Hell yeah. Slick Rick may be new to you but for those of us who weren't introduced to rap because of Crooked I, we've all known that forever.


http://www.omnipelagos.com/entry?n=doggystyle


http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/do/doggystyle.htm



"DOC: Ghost-writer of raps; preformer"



gangstaboogy, wanna explain that since you know everything apparently

Like I said, he helped Snoop come up with concepts and helped him with his verses. He was basically Snoop's coach. But D.O.C. is a ghostwriter as proved here...

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=220556.0
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 19, 2009, 02:30:29 PM
1-i was introduced to rap thru 2pac/wu tang thank you very much

2-i actually heard slick rick's lodi dodi first

3-did you know lodi dodi wasn't originally done by SNoop??  just thought i'd let ya know incase you didn't  :laugh:
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 19, 2009, 05:58:34 PM
where did you hear that that emmanuel dean was credited as "porkchop" in thanks-section?why not "emmanuel dean"?
Pretty sure that was Dean said on DPG Eulogy. Like I said, I need to rewatch it because I haven't seen it in a couple years but from what I remember, Dean was pissed that instead of being given credit for whatever he contributed to those tracks, he just got a listing as "Porkchop" or something weird like that.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Efrain on July 19, 2009, 07:15:26 PM
There is a Dr. Dre produced version of "What Would U Do" on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. The original version was produced by Daz.

Not produced by Dre. He's credited with mixing that version, Daz is still the producer credited on the NBK soundtrack.

Yeah, it's the same version that's on "Murder Was The Case" but there's also that "Dr. Dre Remix" of it, which is almost the same as the original. I'm guessin Daz Dillinger made the beat and Dr. Dre produced the song, just like Snoop Dogg said in one of his interview with DubCNN.


No. There are two versions, both released. One on Murder was the Case which is produced by Daz and mixed by ? (don't have the inlet) and the other was released on the Natural Born Killers STK which is also produced by Daz but happens to be mixed by Dr. Dre.

It is not a Dr. Dre Remix per se, it's just Daz's beat mixed by Dre. There is no additional instrumentation or musical elements that aren't present in the Murda Was the Case version.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 19, 2009, 10:42:01 PM
I just re-watched the Emmanuel Dean section from the DVD and here's what I got from it.

It sounds like he was mad at Dre for not helping him get his proper credit. He says Dre "definitely made the beat" but that he (Dean) was responsible for playing the instruments (doesn't specify but Daz later says he played the keyboards). He says "Pork Chop" was a nick name that the Death Row guys were trying to give him and seems very unhappy about his credit being reduced to a "Special Thanks" with some bullshit nickname instead of his real name. He seems to take issue with Dre over the fact that he allowed Death Row to fuck Dre's studio people out of publishing credits. He says something to the vibe of that he knew Dre took care of his people after the fact (I presume this to mean that he made sure everything was good with his Aftermath crew) but he was angry how he let Suge and Death Row fuck everybody and then just walked out of that to a new deal.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: Deep Cover on July 20, 2009, 01:42:04 AM
Deep Cover


give me one example of a great Snoop freestyle...and please don't use the one over the "Bitches aint shit" beat because that was a terrible example of "freestyling"



Snoop was great with his flow and rapping...but off the head?? no.

I can't blame you for being too young to know. Snoop was well-known to freestyle many of hist best songs. I already gave you two great examples. But if your so stubborn that you don't wanna read the things you don't wanna hear, that's your problem. So please go get some knowledge first. Try to start with the D.O.C. interview

Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 20, 2009, 01:59:36 AM
Deep Cover


give me one example of a great Snoop freestyle...and please don't use the one over the "Bitches aint shit" beat because that was a terrible example of "freestyling"



Snoop was great with his flow and rapping...but off the head?? no.

i know whatchu sayin but did you ever hear "arsenio hall freestyle"?, i heard "tha shiznit" is a freestyle too.
Title: Re: anybody got source of ghostwriter for Doggystyle?
Post by: 2euce 7even on July 20, 2009, 02:02:10 AM
where did you hear that that emmanuel dean was credited as "porkchop" in thanks-section?why not "emmanuel dean"?
Pretty sure that was Dean said on DPG Eulogy. Like I said, I need to rewatch it because I haven't seen it in a couple years but from what I remember, Dean was pissed that instead of being given credit for whatever he contributed to those tracks, he just got a listing as "Porkchop" or something weird like that.

lol @ "porkchop". but emmanuel dean did some other work too right (what he was credited for :)), wasnt he producing for "militia" and lord g?