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Title: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: KingNicholas on July 25, 2009, 02:23:49 PM
What songs that have been leaked/released so far are tracks from his untouchable era? Btw is Drunk Drivin with tha realest and swoop g considered an untouchable era song? Thanks.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on July 25, 2009, 03:34:49 PM
Crooked I's 2002-2003 is so much better.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: JohnnyL on July 25, 2009, 03:39:49 PM
Of the one's that are leaked, here's the one's I'm pretty are from that era:

Bang on 'Em (Remix)
Dollaz in My Hand (2 Verse Version)
Dollaz in My Hand (3 Verse Version)
Gangstaology
G'd Up and Banged Out
I Love the Ghetto to Death
I've Suffered Too Long (Only Released Tagged, Thus Far)
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 25, 2009, 03:41:45 PM
what about "So Gangsta" with the Armory?
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: JohnnyL on July 25, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
what about "So Gangsta" with the Armory?

Damn.  I don't know about that one.  I have to admit, I'm out of my depth at this point. lol  Where's Effex when you need him?  He probably knows.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on July 25, 2009, 05:17:43 PM
what about "So Gangsta" with the Armory?

Damn.  I don't know about that one.  I have to admit, I'm out of my depth at this point. lol  Where's Effex when you need him?  He probably knows.

Not sure if "So Gangsta" is "Untouchable" era, but it's very old... Sorry I don't have much information regarding that track, I'm sure someone knows though.

BTW: You can include these also as being part of the "Untouchable" era, whether or not they were actually going to be on the album or not...

-Crook Show
-House Party (OG)
-Jack 101
-Raw Dawgs
-Middle Finger Music
-Untouchable "feat. 2 Pac"
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: KingNicholas on August 20, 2009, 09:12:59 PM
Damn I wish there was a more full version of Raw Dawgs. Personally I like Crooked in his Untouchable era more. Well Untouchable/DPG/18th Street era are my favorite shit by him.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: 1nce was blind on August 20, 2009, 09:35:15 PM
Crook's Untouchable era tracks are fire. I hope we one day get to hear "Bang On Em", "Raw Dawgs" & "Crook Show" in full.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on August 20, 2009, 09:51:15 PM
Damn I wish there was a more full version of Raw Dawgs. Personally I like Crooked in his Untouchable era more. Well Untouchable/DPG/18th Street era are my favorite shit by him.

Agreed.

Although, I'm feeling his current music too.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 20, 2009, 09:53:02 PM
crooked's getting better with time



Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on August 20, 2009, 10:02:24 PM
crooked's getting better with time

I think he's more well rounded these days, but I'd definitely love to get my hands on a DPG/Untouchable era LP.

DAZ, you listening to this? RELEASE THAT PROJECT YOU HAVE!
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 20, 2009, 10:05:30 PM
yeah man Crooked's shit from 1998-now has been amazing


but ill take block obama/ slaughterhouse era
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on August 20, 2009, 10:19:35 PM
yeah man Crooked's shit from 1998-now has been amazing


but ill take block obama/ slaughterhouse era

I hear that definitely...

I want a copy of the Boss Music album too though. The original one, I'm sure that had some nice tracks on it.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Ridah662 on August 20, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
crooked i is a better artist today..................even though the death row material is better to me but im diggin his new shyt as well....
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: TheWestCoast on August 21, 2009, 12:18:30 AM
crooked i is so sick its just fuckedd
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 03:56:46 AM
Untouchable (incl. DPG)

Bang On Em
Middle Finger Music
G'd Up & Banged Out
Young Rider
I Love the Ghetto to Death
So Damm Hood (solo version)
Untouchable (the intro)
Untouchable (the track remix w/ 2Pac) **
Untouchable (solo)
Thuggin'
Shake That, Uughh
House Party (OG) **
Dollaz In My Hand **

Knock Knock Knock
Mr Uh Oh
Gangstaology
Tha Shi'ite
Crook Show
Crook In Me
Jack 101
Raw Dawgz

Say Hi To The Bad Guy 1 & 2

Hood Star **
Hood Star (remix)
Shoulda Made You My Wife **
B*tch
Lose Your Mind
Lil Youngsters
Welcome To Los Angeles
Baby Girl
Me & My Dogs
Slap Back
So Damm Hood **
So Damm Hood (remix)
Ghetto Love
Fuck Wit Us (OG)
Take The Title
Midnight Tonight
Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy
Real Thugs
Live At Tha Row
They Don't Give a Damm

** = proposed singles and idea's. 2 of which videos were written
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Zeus on August 21, 2009, 07:12:48 AM
Untouchable era is much better to me from the tracks that I have heard, no guests,no nonsense and the album was overseen by Big Hutch who is a west coast legend.....The Say Hi to the Bad Guy era had soem heaters n odoubt but it was also a bit commercial and had way, way too many guest  appearances. Suge was too worried about the album not selling so he wanted to load up on lame guests like Sisqo, Ray J and Ja Rule.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Okka on August 21, 2009, 07:16:11 AM
The full version of the original "Bang On 'Em" better leak, the snippet sounds tight.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on August 21, 2009, 09:06:30 AM
Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy
Real Thugs

Just out of curiosity where were these songs mentioned. I'm not doubting them, as I've heard of "Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy", but I'm just wondering so I can use that as a reference. Was that in those Death Row inventory documents?
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 04:07:59 PM
Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy
Real Thugs

Just out of curiosity where were these songs mentioned. I'm not doubting them, as I've heard of "Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy", but I'm just wondering so I can use that as a reference. Was that in those Death Row inventory documents?

I don't think these were mentioned online on an actual site that I know of. I know of 3 who have the Untouchable album, and some of the later material recorded, and most of the titles, and info on them stuck through discussion from years and years back. House Party snippet was put out a lot of years ago, I'm surprised people missed it
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Ridah662 on August 21, 2009, 04:21:27 PM
Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy
Real Thugs

Just out of curiosity where were these songs mentioned. I'm not doubting them, as I've heard of "Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy", but I'm just wondering so I can use that as a reference. Was that in those Death Row inventory documents?

I don't think these were mentioned online on an actual site that I know of. I know of 3 who have the Untouchable album, and some of the later material recorded, and most of the titles, and info on them stuck through discussion from years and years back. House Party snippet was put out a lot of years ago, I'm surprised people missed it

untouchable woulda definetly taken crooked i into a different path in his career, i can tell u that its 10 times better than shttbg.....
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 05:03:01 PM
4 people then....

Untouchable is described as a classic West Coast album. If Suge had put this out on some (at the time) subpart distribution deal, and at hit gold maximum - which he would have with the 2 singles/videos scheduled it would have definitly increased awareness on him for his next release, and for Death Row as a whole, but Suge wanting to hit a deal that'd ensure platinum with this only weakened any chances of this ever being released
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 21, 2009, 05:15:39 PM
Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy
Real Thugs

Just out of curiosity where were these songs mentioned. I'm not doubting them, as I've heard of "Say Bye To Tha Bad Guy", but I'm just wondering so I can use that as a reference. Was that in those Death Row inventory documents?

I don't think these were mentioned online on an actual site that I know of. I know of 3 who have the Untouchable album, and some of the later material recorded, and most of the titles, and info on them stuck through discussion from years and years back. House Party snippet was put out a lot of years ago, I'm surprised people missed it

untouchable woulda definetly taken crooked i into a different path in his career, i can tell u that its 10 times better than shttbg.....

However, Say Hi would have taken him into a money making route. Has more mainstream hit type tracks.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 05:25:56 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 21, 2009, 05:26:48 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
ridah post the mp3 to fuck em   i lost it
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 06:21:27 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.

I know, but to me IMPO, it would have secured negligibly renowned status as a West Coast classic, similar to that of Daz Dillinger's R.A.W. or King Tee's Triflin album
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Ridah662 on August 21, 2009, 06:39:56 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.

I know, but to me IMPO, it would have secured negligibly renowned status as a West Coast classic, similar to that of Daz Dillinger's R.A.W. or King Tee's Triflin album

actually i would put it in the same sentence as dogg food.....classic wise 
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 06:43:25 PM
Hmmm. Now, if it didn't have So Much Style, Respect & Reality, I'd probably sightlessly agree  :-\
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 06:47:07 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.

I know, but to me IMPO, it would have secured negligibly renowned status as a West Coast classic, similar to that of Daz Dillinger's R.A.W. or King Tee's Triflin album


plz dont try to compare Daz's wack raps to Crooked's fresh shit
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 07:01:10 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.

I know, but to me IMPO, it would have secured negligibly renowned status as a West Coast classic, similar to that of Daz Dillinger's R.A.W. or King Tee's Triflin album


plz dont try to compare Daz's wack raps to Crooked's fresh shit

hack which track u said u needed? fuck em with kurupt?



the one where he says "im getting paid like robert downey jr's drug connect"
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 07:03:54 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.

I know, but to me IMPO, it would have secured negligibly renowned status as a West Coast classic, similar to that of Daz Dillinger's R.A.W. or King Tee's Triflin album


plz dont try to compare Daz's wack raps to Crooked's fresh shit

Not rap-wise. I'm talking about solid album construction overall
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 07:09:44 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.

I know, but to me IMPO, it would have secured negligibly renowned status as a West Coast classic, similar to that of Daz Dillinger's R.A.W. or King Tee's Triflin album


plz dont try to compare Daz's wack raps to Crooked's fresh shit

Not rap-wise. I'm talking about solid album construction overall

ok thats a lil better

but DAz is wackness rapping





and he called Afeni a crackwhore :(

Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Ridah662 on August 21, 2009, 07:11:19 PM
Looking back to 2003 mainstream, Hood Star was a solid choice for a single. It's no surprise Petey Pablo took the beat in the studio and rapped over it. Simple impression, with a soft jingly melody and a simple hook was the range back then

It would have went high in the charts. Untouchable wouldn't have charted shit. Lol.

I know, but to me IMPO, it would have secured negligibly renowned status as a West Coast classic, similar to that of Daz Dillinger's R.A.W. or King Tee's Triflin album


plz dont try to compare Daz's wack raps to Crooked's fresh shit

hack which track u said u needed? fuck em with kurupt?



the one where he says "im getting paid like robert downey jr's drug connect"

that track isnt leaked my man sorry.....nice try though ;)
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 07:13:11 PM
i had it at one point  :-\ :(
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Ridah662 on August 21, 2009, 07:14:56 PM
i had it at one point  :-\ :(

ughhhhhh no u didnt cause it has never leaked at all....& u just dont lose that kind of track if u had it which u didnt
 
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 21, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
It may have been passed over AIM with someone else added. I can remember 1 Death Row Swoop G track in particular that got out that way

& Daz calling Afeni a crack whore is one example why Amaru & Aftermath,,, & now WIDEawake don't work deals with him
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 07:52:22 PM
i got a near CDQ version of 2pac and crook Catchin Feelings too :D


the one that leaked is 128 KBPS which is decent but not great Q
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on August 21, 2009, 08:48:20 PM
i got a near CDQ version of 2pac and crook Catchin Feelings too :D


the one that leaked is 128 KBPS which is decent but not great Q

Do you have I Shoulda Made You My Wife in CDQ / near CDQ?
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 21, 2009, 08:48:54 PM
i got a near CDQ version of 2pac and crook Catchin Feelings too :D


the one that leaked is 128 KBPS which is decent but not great Q

Do you have I Shoulda Made You My Wife in CDQ / near CDQ?

wasn't gave that one :(

Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: 1nce was blind on August 21, 2009, 09:30:04 PM
Crooked I probably would've been a much bigger name on the west if Untouchable was released. There are 2 versions of Untouchable correct? One produced by Daz & another one?
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 22, 2009, 06:34:53 AM
i got a near CDQ version of 2pac and crook Catchin Feelings too :D


the one that leaked is 128 KBPS which is decent but not great Q

Do you have I Shoulda Made You My Wife in CDQ / near CDQ?

wasn't gave that one :(



I have them both in WAV in the best quality they were sold in, Effex get at me.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 22, 2009, 06:36:08 AM
Also, Legendz - how much did you pay for the tracks Skanless jacked from Johnny J and the Crooked I stuff? That must have ran you a heavy toll.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: 2euce 7even on August 22, 2009, 06:44:22 AM
Of the one's that are leaked, here's the one's I'm pretty are from that era:

Bang on 'Em (Remix)
Dollaz in My Hand (2 Verse Version)
Dollaz in My Hand (3 Verse Version)
Gangstaology
G'd Up and Banged Out
I Love the Ghetto to Death
I've Suffered Too Long (Only Released Tagged, Thus Far)


str8 heat.i luv crook ova typical west coast beats.esp. "bang on em" and "i love the ghetto"
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Ridah662 on August 22, 2009, 07:05:55 AM
Also, Legendz - how much did you pay for the tracks Skanless jacked from Johnny J and the Crooked I stuff? That must have ran you a heavy toll.

i payed a nice price for them....back then
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 22, 2009, 07:10:31 AM
Also, Legendz - how much did you pay for the tracks Skanless jacked from Johnny J and the Crooked I stuff? That must have ran you a heavy toll.

i payed a nice price for them....back then

Excellent. Lol. It's crazy how he got his hands on all that stuff, eh? It's funny about the This Ain't Living fiasco as well. Lol.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Ridah662 on August 22, 2009, 07:13:53 AM
Also, Legendz - how much did you pay for the tracks Skanless jacked from Johnny J and the Crooked I stuff? That must have ran you a heavy toll.

i payed a nice price for them....back then

Excellent. Lol. It's crazy how he got his hands on all that stuff, eh? It's funny about the This Ain't Living fiasco as well. Lol.

hey thats all him, i just wanted the music so i bought it when i had the money avail.............
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 22, 2009, 07:17:54 AM
Also, Legendz - how much did you pay for the tracks Skanless jacked from Johnny J and the Crooked I stuff? That must have ran you a heavy toll.

i payed a nice price for them....back then

Excellent. Lol. It's crazy how he got his hands on all that stuff, eh? It's funny about the This Ain't Living fiasco as well. Lol.

hey thats all him, i just wanted the music so i bought it when i had the money avail.............

Yeah, good investment on your end man. I got to give you your props on that one.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Darksider on August 22, 2009, 07:20:16 AM
Crooked I's 2002-2003 is so much better.
yep
the untouchable tracks sounds like some underground shit...way too raw
and daz is not crooked i....RAW would have never sounded like it did without daz...daz got a certain style that we all like
for example ..dollars n my hand is a ok song but it sounds too underground and weird at the same time
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: Mietek23 on August 22, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
Also, Legendz - how much did you pay for the tracks Skanless jacked from Johnny J and the Crooked I stuff? That must have ran you a heavy toll.

i payed a nice price for them....back then

What kind of Johnny 'J' tracks you have? Could you drop some tittles?
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 22, 2009, 08:07:29 AM
Also, Legendz - how much did you pay for the tracks Skanless jacked from Johnny J and the Crooked I stuff? That must have ran you a heavy toll.

i payed a nice price for them....back then

What kind of Johnny 'J' tracks you have? Could you drop some tittles?

It's all 2Pac stuff. :-P
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 22, 2009, 10:47:24 AM
Crooked I's 2002-2003 is so much better.
yep
the untouchable tracks sounds like some underground shit...way too raw
and daz is not crooked i....RAW would have never sounded like it did without daz...daz got a certain style that we all like
for example ..dollars n my hand is a ok song but it sounds too underground and weird at the same time



dollars in my hand is a classic
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on August 22, 2009, 10:49:38 AM
Crooked I's 2002-2003 is so much better.
yep
the untouchable tracks sounds like some underground shit...way too raw
and daz is not crooked i....RAW would have never sounded like it did without daz...daz got a certain style that we all like
for example ..dollars n my hand is a ok song but it sounds too underground and weird at the same time



dollars in my hand is a classic

Agreed.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: conor48 on August 22, 2009, 12:42:28 PM
raw dawgs was the track that i wanted to hear..think from the tracks that leaked from SHTTBG it was too commercial and guest orientated-for some reason i've always thought untouchable was more a solo album than a crooked i feat the row album
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: KingNicholas on August 23, 2009, 09:27:39 PM
How come Daz hasn't released his version of the album actually?
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: EFFeX on August 23, 2009, 09:45:26 PM
How come Daz hasn't released his version of the album actually?

His plan was to release it after Say Hi To The Bad Guy dropped to steal some of Death Row's shine as well as capitalize off the name. I don't think he really has any interest in releasing those tracks anymore otherwise we probably would have heard it by now.
Title: Re: Crooked I Untouchable Era
Post by: V2DHeart on August 24, 2009, 07:56:30 AM
I'd rather hear his "Untouchable" project, and his "Say Hi To The Bad Guy" collections, other than his current B.O.S.S./COB material, because the Death Row tracks (and to a lesser extend - the Big C Style stuff) was what drawn me to him originally. His main appeal was his unique Raw, fast, versatile, lyrical ability. He rapped with a kind of off-par Jamaican twang with such strong metaphors, and came from the West. Death Row, my favourite label, had what appeared to be it's most talented lyricist ever repping Tha Row, and The West, and his music got me hyped for his upcoming projects. The Cold 187um underground hits, and even The Darren Vegas/Crook mixtape made his projects wanted highly.

As much as he still has talent, the vast amount of mixtape releases, with boring southern club sounding garbage beats, with him shouting out C.O.B., Clubs, Young Boss, Rims, Costing, Bosses etc. had put me off even bothering with his current stuff to be honest. Don't get me wrong, he still has huge talent on the MIC, and can spit raw fire, but musically - and what counts for 20% of me buying a CD, sucks at the moment, and I just prefer the chemistry and energy that hot beats from a good producer, and raw lyrics creates