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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: kyledonquan on August 02, 2009, 03:27:53 PM
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I was recently reading an article at thehuq.com. In it, they were examining 2pac's music and his impact on pop culture. Though they acknowledged his creativity, they dismissed him as being grossly overrated.
I want to know what are you all thoughts, not primarily on the article but on Pac being overrated. I mean I've recently heard "If there is a cure for this" (compliments of dubcc ofcourse) and personally I believe that it puts new artists like souljah boy, drake et al to shame. I mean these guys are just fooling around in the studio but the result is phenomenal. Props to snoop.
Nonetheless, check out the interview at http://www.thehuq.com/news00001.aspx and pitch your thoughts here.
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No.
Pac is damn near G.O.A.T.
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Theres no doubt Pac's music puts all the new artists of todays music to shame, but I peronally think he's overrated. He definitely aint the GOAT as many people think.
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Theres no doubt Pac's music puts all the new artists of todays music to shame, but I peronally think he's overrated. He definitely aint the GOAT as many people think.
same here...
he got some dope shit,but he's too much repetive
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Depends what you listen to hip-hop for.
Pac has more levels than most, IMO... He don't have the multi's & punches that most think = a "lyricist".
But IMO, Pac's words in song's ment for thought kill 99% of all multi/punchline rappers.
+ his music has longevity, even today decade plus into his death his songs still sound crisp.
I'm bias, Been down w/Pac since his introduction to me thru being a Digital Underground fan.
I have yet to see an artist since who's albums have got better as he progressed thru his career.
(2Pacalypse Now - Makaveli: The Don Killuminati/The 7 Day Theory)
Overrated, maybe only if you were introduced to him after '96.
(Then you were spoon fed, But many of us already had him up there regardless.)
Death just forced most.
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so many people just dont realize that being the greatest rap ARTIST doesnt necessarily mean your the greatest lyricist . 2PAC SHAKUR IS the GREATEST RAP ARTIST EVER because
1. he was GREAT on the mic [ vocally , lyrically , delivery ]
2. rapped about real life issues from EVERY angle [everyday folk , political , etc] FAR more than any other hardcore rapper
3. his image [ i DARE someone to pretend this isnt important or not looked upon] was second to none
4. pacs legion of followers will NEVER be matched , without question the most BELOVED RAPPER EVER
5. SHOT A COP [this speaks for itself , his outlaw status was forever sealed after this ]
6. probably the most interesting upbringing EVER for a rap artist [background story is VERY important]
7. wasnt scared to speak his mind on ANY situation or individual for fear of being blackballed [even BEFORE he REALLY blew up]
8. how many blacks have you seen fully tatted up before pac? how many german cross tats have you seen since pac's ? [trends]
9. the way he died and all the strange situations and theories and coincidences [yes this definitely counts]
i could actually go on and on but my point is that we have to realize that being a great ARTIST is a mixture and combination of many different things . and with that being said i feel that 2PAC SHAKUR IS THE GREATEST RAPPER EVER
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to further back my point take eminem for example . em is EASILY one of if not THE GREATEST LYRICIST EVER , but if he passed tomorrow what would he be remembered as ? a white man that defied the odds and became a great rapper , nothing else . . he would be all but forgotten in 2 years tops . take biggie who has been stuffed down our throats as THEE GREATEST RAPPER EVER [which is VERY VERY debatable] . . . his passing generated NOWHERE NEAR the shockwaves throughout the world that pac's did . BUT if he had all of the qualities that i listed that pac had . . . TOTALLY different story .
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no, Biggie fans made that shit up & it caught on to a serious question.
Pac has 4 classic albums lmao.
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lol and my last point to back my opinion is that of an ARTIST vs LYRICIST . what does being the best lyricist mean if you pick wack beats , features , hooks , and or subject matter for your album ? i'll tell you . . NOTHING . a great ARTIST is well rounded , knows what he sounds good rapping on , next to , and about so when his album drops its FIRE . a lyricist drops an album that is lyrically great but everything else may be way off course so in the end even though he rips most of the album it is still OVERRALL wack . being a great artist is FAR more important than being a great lyricist . yet again why i say HELL NO 2PAC SHAKUR wasnt overrated , he was the GREATEST RAP ARTIST EVER . thanks for reading .
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Depends what you listen to hip-hop for.
Pac has more levels than most, IMO... He don't have the multi's & punches that most think = a "lyricist".
But IMO, Pac's words in song's ment for thought kill 99% of all multi/punchline rappers.
+ his music has longevity, even today decade plus into his death his songs still sound crisp.
I'm bias, Been down w/Pac since his introduction to me thru being a Digital Underground fan.
I have yet to see an artist since who's albums have got better as he progressed thru his career.
(2Pacalypse Now - Makaveli: The Don Killuminati/The 7 Day Theory)
Overrated, maybe only if you were introduced to him after '96.
(Then you were spoon fed, But many of us already had him up there regardless.)
Death just forced most.
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That's really what it's about...only these newcomers who got introduced to Rap by Eminem say STUPID shit like you hear about Pac.
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lol and my last point to back my opinion is that of an ARTIST vs LYRICIST . what does being the best lyricist mean if you pick wack beats , features , hooks , and or subject matter for your album ? i'll tell you . . NOTHING . a great ARTIST is well rounded , knows what he sounds good rapping on , next to , and about so when his album drops its FIRE . a lyricist drops an album that is lyrically great but everything else may be way off course so in the end even though he rips most of the album it is still OVERRALL wack . being a great artist is FAR more important than being a great lyricist . yet again why i say HELL NO 2PAC SHAKUR wasnt overrated , he was the GREATEST RAP ARTIST EVER . thanks for reading .
You got it
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2pac was the best
case closed
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2pac was the best
case closed
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he was dope, but no greatest of all time.
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he was dope, but no greatest of all time.
who wuz better then Pac, Gucci Mane?
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tracks like dear mama and keep ya head up still bring goose bumps to me when hearing it.
pac is the GOAT nobody comes close.
today is mtv jams bay day and they played so many classic pac tracks. just makes you appricate him more
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lol and my last point to back my opinion is that of an ARTIST vs LYRICIST . what does being the best lyricist mean if you pick wack beats , features , hooks , and or subject matter for your album ? i'll tell you . . NOTHING . a great ARTIST is well rounded , knows what he sounds good rapping on , next to , and about so when his album drops its FIRE . a lyricist drops an album that is lyrically great but everything else may be way off course so in the end even though he rips most of the album it is still OVERRALL wack . being a great artist is FAR more important than being a great lyricist . yet again why i say HELL NO 2PAC SHAKUR wasnt overrated , he was the GREATEST RAP ARTIST EVER . thanks for reading .
You got it
THANKS MAN
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he was dope, but no greatest of all time.
who wuz better then Pac, Gucci Mane?
for me; Ice Cube, Scarface...
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he was dope, but no greatest of all time.
who wuz better then Pac, Gucci Mane?
I think thats getting a bit played out now.
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Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makaveli, 2Pacalypse Now >>> insert any other four albums made by one artist.
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HE RAPPED ABOUT THE REAL SHIT POOR/MINORITIES IN THE HOOD LIVED THROUGH. THE FIRST REAL MOTHAFUCKA TO DO THAT
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I don't necessarily think Pac is overrated. The guy could write music better than any rap artist of his time. Problem I've got is people who think everything in rap starts and ends with Pac. He's one of my favorites of all-time but a lot of fans definitely have trouble seperating their personal feelings in the way they relate to his legacy. Like many deceased icons from the past, people tend to remember and overcompensate their strengths while having selective memory with their weaknesses. Pac was definitely unique and one of a kind and there will never be another like him but that doesn't automatically make him someone who is "above debate". It's all in what you relate to.
I think the biggest thing that bugs me in regards to Pac fans after he died was how his discography suddenly became "classic" or how the comparisons seemed to move away from the actual content and more about how the content related to the artist. I can remember an argument of "Doggystyle" versus "All Eyez On Me" that pretty clearly turned into a popularity contest between Pac and Snoop. Issues of how much material was recorded over what length of time or who stayed truer to their content came up but seemed like smoke screens. People who say AEOM is unquestionably the greatest hip-hop album of all-time sort of seem like the kind of fans who most validate the "Pac being overrated" theory. All Eyez has some awesome material and the fact that it was recorded so quickly is definitely a testament to what an exceptional and very driven artist Pac was. It was groundbreaking in being that it was one of the first double albums in hip-hop history and worked as sort of an introduction to a new era in hip-hop music but historical signifance is one thing and overall album quality is another. If it took Pac three years to record and wasn't the first double album and came out on a label other than Death Row would it be any less of an important album? "All Eyez" is the West Coast fan's wet dream. It's far less balanced with its content than his previous album but it's full of West Coast heavyweights and has some of Pac's best songs. It's easily to be distracted from the album's overall quality when there are so many phenominal tracks spread over two discs. I think "Me Against The World" and "Makaveli" both did a much better job when it came to the orginazation and selection of the track listing. "All Eyez" is a four-star album that so many people are convinced is a five.
Just my two cents on the subject.
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makaveli was the best rap cd ever made
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HE RAPPED ABOUT THE REAL SHIT POOR/MINORITIES IN THE HOOD LIVED THROUGH. THE FIRST REAL MOTHAFUCKA TO DO THAT
But what's "real"? Did you give equal credit to millionaires who make music about being happy, rich, and having fun? Reality seems like it only works in art when people directly relate to it. Someone's "reality" might be to be self-serving or prejudice or negative. Is it the same thing? More over, does art have to be reflective of reality for it to be important? Is "Flavor of Love" a more significant television show than something like "Star Trek" or "X-Files"?
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Depends what you listen to hip-hop for.
Pac has more levels than most, IMO... He don't have the multi's & punches that most think = a "lyricist".
But IMO, Pac's words in song's ment for thought kill 99% of all multi/punchline rappers.
+ his music has longevity, even today decade plus into his death his songs still sound crisp.
I'm bias, Been down w/Pac since his introduction to me thru being a Digital Underground fan.
I have yet to see an artist since who's albums have got better as he progressed thru his career.
(2Pacalypse Now - Makaveli: The Don Killuminati/The 7 Day Theory)
Overrated, maybe only if you were introduced to him after '96.
(Then you were spoon fed, But many of us already had him up there regardless.)
Death just forced most.
couldnt have said it better
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I don't like threads like this just because its to give people over sea's security in their American Rap/Hip-Hop Artist. 8)
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There's no right or wrong answer to anything anyone said since it's all opinion.. here's my take though..
If you were to compare his work to others who else could work as fast with that much depth along with doing all the movies, music videos, appearences..
These people that wanna question these types of things need to look at other popular artists and compare.. I don't see Jay Z, TI, or Lil Wayne doing anything anywhere near what Pac did in terms of quality and quantity while into additionally persuing other avenues like movies.
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he is the greatest rapper ever...I don't know about overrated or anything...but there's other greats that I would consider as well...like Nas for example.
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he was dope, but no greatest of all time.
who wuz better then Pac, Gucci Mane?
I think thats getting a bit played out now.
it doesn't matter to people who are stuck in a phallic stage
There's no right or wrong answer to anything anyone said since it's all opinion..
most people on here can't figure that concept out.
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Depends what you listen to hip-hop for.
Pac has more levels than most, IMO... He don't have the multi's & punches that most think = a "lyricist".
But IMO, Pac's words in song's ment for thought kill 99% of all multi/punchline rappers.
+ his music has longevity, even today decade plus into his death his songs still sound crisp.
I'm bias, Been down w/Pac since his introduction to me thru being a Digital Underground fan.
I have yet to see an artist since who's albums have got better as he progressed thru his career.
(2Pacalypse Now - Makaveli: The Don Killuminati/The 7 Day Theory)
Overrated, maybe only if you were introduced to him after '96.
(Then you were spoon fed, But many of us already had him up there regardless.)
Death just forced most.
couldnt have said it better
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Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makaveli, 2Pacalypse Now >>> insert any other four albums made by one artist.
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Death Certificate, Predator, Lethal Injection
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Overrated as who says ? the notorious big fans ? 2 Pac is underrated . he was something special , not just a rapper but way more than that . when it comes to rap he has songs that you can feel and with passion period .
my fav Pac songs
Pain - off the above the rim soundtrack
Got my mind made up
So Many tears
Keep ya head up
Me against the world
Hold ya head
Pour out a little liqour
Death around the corner
Ambitiionz az a ridah
Picture me rollin
Blasphemy
Dear mama
Cali Luv - Album version not the mad max radio version
When We Ride
too many to name
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Pac will always be one of the best but his obsessive fans, who probably weren't old enough to listen to rap when he was alive, have come close to ruining his legacy with outlandish claims and theories.
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Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makaveli, 2Pacalypse Now >>> insert any other four albums made by one artist.
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Death Certificate, Predator, Lethal Injection
beat me to it! Ice Cubes Discography >>> 2pacs Discography
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Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makaveli, 2Pacalypse Now >>> insert any other four albums made by one artist.
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Death Certificate, Predator, Lethal Injection
beat me to it! Ice Cubes Discography >>> 2pacs Discography
Your crazy , 2 Pac discography is much better than Cubes , Ice Cubes music sounds outdated when it comes to the stuff he made in the early 90's . and im a Cube fan . his albums are 2nd to Pacs
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Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makaveli, 2Pacalypse Now >>> insert any other four albums made by one artist.
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Death Certificate, Predator, Lethal Injection
beat me to it! Ice Cubes Discography >>> 2pacs Discography
Your crazy , 2 Pac discography is much better than Cubes , Ice Cubes music sounds outdated when it comes to the stuff he made in the early 90's . and im a Cube fan . his albums are 2nd to Pacs
Ok then, Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic and God's Son (Lost Tapes over God's Son if you can count that as an album). If I had to choose any one of them sets, I would easily take Nas.
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Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makaveli, 2Pacalypse Now >>> insert any other four albums made by one artist.
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Death Certificate, Predator, Lethal Injection
beat me to it! Ice Cubes Discography >>> 2pacs Discography
Kool G Rap got 4 albums better than those 4 Pac ones ;D if you count the Polo stuff
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The World is Yours, The Diary, Mr Scarface Is Back, My Homiez or The Fix >>> 2pacs
Im not bashing Pac though, IMO the Makaveli album is probably my fav rap album. But I find myself skipping tracks on his earlier albums
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Invincible & NillerTheKid, basically just proved the point that Tupac is clearly not overrated.
they named Ice Cube & Nas, two of the best rappers of all time, Tupac is right in the mix; add the impact of his music, his best songs vs. theirs & you have your greatest rapper of all time.
thread closed. ;)
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No.
Pac is G.O.A.T.
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I was recently reading an article at thehuq.com. In it, they were examining 2pac's music and his impact on pop culture. Though they acknowledged his creativity, they dismissed him as being grossly overrated.
I want to know what are you all thoughts, not primarily on the article but on Pac being overrated. I mean I've recently heard "If there is a cure for this" (compliments of dubcc ofcourse) and personally I believe that it puts new artists like souljah boy, drake et al to shame. I mean these guys are just fooling around in the studio but the result is phenomenal. Props to snoop.
Nonetheless, check out the interview at http://www.thehuq.com/news00001.aspx and pitch your thoughts here.
maybe you should dig him up & ask him.
until then, sssssh.
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2PAC SHAKUR IS the GREATEST RAP ARTIST EVER because he was so real.......Nobody can be like Pac, even a small part of what he was. Pac is an example for the true Man, the true Soulja......Everybody -Blacks, Whites, Latinos must have respect from Pac. He created the history of the real rap. I'm sure that some day kids will learn about Pac's life in schools. R.I.P true Soulja
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Pac will always be one of the best but his obsessive fans, who probably weren't old enough to listen to rap when he was alive, have come close to ruining his legacy with outlandish claims and theories.
Exactly. I'd never try to discredit him as an artist. Like I said, he had a work rate that seemed inhuman. He made incredible music but the amount of people that think he was like the Jesus Christ of hip-hop is downright creepy and sickening. It has nothing to do with Pac. It's about these people who literally have built up to be bigger than life itself. To say that someone is the best ever and there will never be anyone that ever comes close is just an ignorant statement. A more honest way of saying it would be "I'm so obsessed with Pac that I will never be able to judge anyone else's music unbiasedly."
Overrated as who says ? the notorious big fans ? 2 Pac is underrated . he was something special , not just a rapper but way more than that . when it comes to rap he has songs that you can feel and with passion period .
Underrated? Get out of here.
2PAC SHAKUR IS the GREATEST RAP ARTIST EVER because he was so real.......Nobody can be like Pac, even a small part of what he was. Pac is an example for the true Man, the true Soulja......Everybody -Blacks, Whites, Latinos must have respect from Pac. He created the history of the real rap. I'm sure that some day kids will learn about Pac's life in schools. R.I.P true Soulja
See this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. People take an iconic music figure and turn him into "the greatest human being who ever walked the Earth."
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Overrated as who says ? the notorious big fans ? 2 Pac is underrated . he was something special , not just a rapper but way more than that . when it comes to rap he has songs that you can feel and with passion period .
Underrated? Get out of here.
Actually he is underrated in a perverse way. With so many people worshipping the Death Row era 2Pac and making him out to be a thugged-out Jesus, his deeper work from before that time gets overlooked.
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Overrated as who says ? the notorious big fans ? 2 Pac is underrated . he was something special , not just a rapper but way more than that . when it comes to rap he has songs that you can feel and with passion period .
Underrated? Get out of here.
Actually he is underrated in a perverse way. With so many people worshipping the Death Row era 2Pac and making him out to be a thugged-out Jesus, his deeper work from before that time gets overlooked.
I will agree that the bulk of his work/career tends to get overlooked in favor of his Death Row era stuff but I still wouldn't say he was underrated in that respect because his great but flawed albums from that time seemed to have become "classics" on the basis that he recorded them. "2Pacalypse Now" has suddenly become one of the greatest hip-hop debut albums ever when I would argue that if you remove the man's legacy from the table and judged the material strictly on its own merit, it wasn't even one of the top ten or fifteen debut albums of that decade. Of course, because it's Pac, it has to be.
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topics like these r worthless! how can u argue bout pacs greatness???? he is legendary.. no rapper can match his music.. he had it all, u can go on 4 ever if u list his attributes.. most of these topics r for teenage hiphop followers who werent around when pac hit the scene n all they know is that eminem is the best lyricist.. WTF!!! get tha fuck outta here, how can u compare a fake ass rapper who aims his disses at women (britney, mariah, christina) n compare him to PAC!! r u fukn outta yo mind?? u need 2 slap yoself.. pac was everythin in 1 his lyrics were tight n he spoke real shit!!!
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topics like these r worthless! how can u argue bout pacs greatness???? he is legendary.. no rapper can match his music.. he had it all, u can go on 4 ever if u list his attributes.. most of these topics r for teenage hiphop followers who werent around when pac hit the scene n all they know is that eminem is the best lyricist.. WTF!!! get tha fuck outta here, how can u compare a fake ass rapper who aims his disses at women (britney, mariah, christina) n compare him to PAC!! r u fukn outta yo mind?? u need 2 slap yoself.. pac was everythin in 1 his lyrics were tight n he spoke real shit!!!
But this "apples and oranges" approach is the big problem. No, Eminem can't do what Pac does anymore than Pac would be able to do what Em does. The problem with the comparison is you only look at Pac's unique characteristics and not those of the other artist you're comparing him with. Obviously, Eminem isn't a suitable replacement for Tupac in the same way that Usher or Justin Timberlake isn't a suitable one for Michael Jackson. It seems like hip-hop fans in particular have trouble with diversity within their own genre in that in order for someone to be in the same class as Pac, they have to do everything he did either as good or better. It's not a worthwhile debate because people who are iconic are always gonna be viewed in a different way than most of the artists who follow them.
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pac can be compared to any rapper but is not fair he died at 24!!!! compare any rappers work before they were 24 and u will see he was truly the best to ever do it.
ice cube is probably the closes that comes to pac as a complete artist but imagine what pac would sound like today i dont know about u guys but i've been bumpin the few songs that leaked way more than any new stuff thats out today
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pac can be compared to any rapper but is not fair he died at 24!!!! compare any rappers work before they were 24 and u will see he was truly the best to ever do it.
ice cube is probably the closes that comes to pac as a complete artist but imagine what pac would sound like today i dont know about u guys but i've been bumpin the few songs that leaked way more than any new stuff thats out today
just thought i'd be a jackass and correct you. he died at 25 :)
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i'd like to add pac's music has insane replay value. it's also nice to be able to just let an album ride straight through without having to skip any tracks like i end up doing with other artists' albums.
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i'd like to add pac's music has insane replay value. it's also nice to be able to just let an album ride straight through without having to skip any tracks like i end up doing with other artists' albums.
I have to leave his albums for a while before I listen to them again. I don't listen to him regularly. Me Against The World is the only album with replay value for me.
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pac can be compared to any rapper but is not fair he died at 24!!!! compare any rappers work before they were 24 and u will see he was truly the best to ever do it.
ice cube is probably the closes that comes to pac as a complete artist but imagine what pac would sound like today i dont know about u guys but i've been bumpin the few songs that leaked way more than any new stuff thats out today
But it also works to his advantage in some areas. A lot of rappers' catalogs would probably appear stronger if you looked exclusively at the material they made in the 90's. Another complaint I have with the groupies is they seem to think he would have transcended a "transistional" period. "Everything would still sound like 1995 if Pac never died." Pac's history can be based more subjectively because anything he would have done after the shooting is tied up in hypothetical situations. Fans can create whatever fantasy scenerio they choose. How differently would we remember Cube if he got gunned down after "Bow Down" or Snoop if he died before he went to No Limit? Dogg Pound and Outlawz were going strong for many years themselves.
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Overrated as who says ? the notorious big fans ? 2 Pac is underrated . he was something special , not just a rapper but way more than that . when it comes to rap he has songs that you can feel and with passion period .
my fav Pac songs
Pain - off the above the rim soundtrack
Got my mind made up
So Many tears
Keep ya head up
Me against the world
Hold ya head
Pour out a little liqour
Death around the corner
Ambitiionz az a ridah
Picture me rollin
Blasphemy
Dear mama
Cali Luv - Album version not the mad max radio version
When We Ride
too many to name
Cant Deny it Pac was ridah , you dont wanna fucc with him " all the other rappers you think are real are pretend "
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The influence 2pac had on the rap game is unparalled.When you consider the person who hes most compared to as the best of all time with is big and then take into account how much pac influenced bigs music.
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2pac was the man but everybody know that he wasnt that gangsta he claimed to be and he wasnt on the "crooked i"-"rakim"-level mc-wise but
he had MOST powerful and meaningful songs..he could reach you and make u think.plus 95% of his beats were always on point.
in otha words..yes he was a good rapper but maybe little bit overrated.
im still his #1 fan.
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People will say shit like this not only about 'Pac but about other great musicians, actors, athlets etc
At first I was hella mad when I've heard this nonsense but I've learned to just ignore that shit - I ain't gonna argue with some dumb fuck who thinks Lil' Gay is better than 'Pac, T-Fag is better than Nate Dogg or with some stupid busta who says that MJ was just some average basketball player.. that don't make sense.
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Pac was the best rapper ever lived, and still be forevet...
MAKAVELI THE DON
rip
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Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Makaveli, 2Pacalypse Now >>> insert any other four albums made by one artist.
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Death Certificate, Predator, Lethal Injection
beat me to it! Ice Cubes Discography >>> 2pacs Discography
Your crazy , 2 Pac discography is much better than Cubes , Ice Cubes music sounds outdated when it comes to the stuff he made in the early 90's . and im a Cube fan . his albums are 2nd to Pacs
Not to mention, cube killed pac on his on shit. On a song off Strictly 4 My Niggaz ( can't think of the name of the song but it also features Ice T) Cube clearly out shine everyone on the song. Really it's hard to determine a goat in hip hop because it's art, and art is based on a person's perception not fact. They're people that think Pac is the best, Cube, Jay, Biggie, hell there may be someone out there that thinks Souldja Boy is the shit. It's all opinion.
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he was dope, but no greatest of all time.
who wuz better then Pac, Gucci Mane?
for me; Ice Cube, Scarface...
I believe Cube and face were great, easily two of the greatest and realest of all time. They juss weren't able to cross the same boundaries that Pac in the ability to reach multiple ppl from all backgrounds
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yeah he was dope but there are rappers that are would take his GOAT crown IMO
that dont mean pac is/was wack jus others are/were better
but anyway pac was more for the camera and lettin the world know of how things were vs bein more about the muzik IMO
Theres no doubt Pac's music puts all the new artists of todays music to shame, but I peronally think he's overrated. He definitely aint the GOAT as many people think.
same here...
he got some dope shit,but he's too much repetive