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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: MarshColin on August 14, 2009, 10:14:53 AM
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Here's mine:
Doggumentary Intro
Doggystyle
Every Single Day (Real OG)
Head Doctor (OG)
Stranded On Death Row (Remix)
Street Life
God Don't Like Ugly
Next Episode (OG)
Root of all Evil
Take Me Down Easy
St. Ides Commercial (Used as an interlude)
Midnight Love
G'z Up Hoez Down
If There's A Cure For This
I realize that the songs with Pac and Next Episode OG are very iffy as to whether they could get them out there and also that some of these tracks have been released already. I think this collection of tracks right here would make a BOMB album that the average rap fan would be blown away by, and not just us die hard fans. Also the songs that you don't recognize I took from the asset list so some of these I haven't heard obviously.
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I'd pay 10 bucks for Next Episode OG alone
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Stranded On Death Row (Remix)
Never heard there was a remix of this? Who's featured on it?
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deathrow forum admin said theres 400 songs by Snoop in the vault so the possibilities are endless for this album.
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I want the real "Every Single Day OG" with the different Kurupt verse than what's on DPG 2002. And with Nate Dogg on the hook instead of Jewell. I've only had the crappy radio rip for the past 10 years. The OG of "Gangsta Shit" would be good too.
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deathrow forum admin said theres 400 songs by Snoop in the vault so the possibilities are endless for this album.
If true that rivals 2pac's catalog.
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deathrow forum admin said theres 400 songs by Snoop in the vault so the possibilities are endless for this album.
If true that rivals 2pac's catalog.
but the quality of music is easily in 2pac's favor
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Stranded On Death Row (Remix)
Never heard there was a remix of this? Who's featured on it?
No idea. It was on the asset list and it was from 93. That's all we know about it sorry.
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I'll settle for anything we have not heard instead.
(Then hope they release the ones we do know about later...) ;)
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Midnight Love
G'z Up Hoez Down
Those have both been released already.
but the quality of music is easily in 2pac's favor
How do you know? Have you heard them?
As for the "ideal" tracklist, what is the point? I don't have access to the songs in question and have no idea what most of them sound like so just guessing which ones would be good based off the titles and features seems pointless.
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I'll settle for anything we have not heard instead.
(Then hope they release the ones we do know about later...) ;)
For sure. I mean there were plenty of songs on the list that we didn't know existed but who knows how good those songs actually are.
The thing that I hope WideAwake does with all their releases, when possible, is make all the songs on them actually gel together like an album. So that would mean only including songs from the same era on each release. For example, make this Lost Sessions album like a Doggystyle part 2, with only tracks from 92-94 on there. The thing that bugs me about the Chronic Re-Lit bonus tracks is that most of them aren't from the Chronic era, as far as I know. I know Poor Young Dave was, but that track would've suited better on a Doggystyle part 2 type release.
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Midnight Love
G'z Up Hoez Down
Those have both been released already.
but the quality of music is easily in 2pac's favor
How do you know? Have you heard them?
As for the "ideal" tracklist, what is the point? I don't have access to the songs in question and have no idea what most of them sound like so just guessing which ones would be good based off the titles and features seems pointless.
I'm well aware they've been released already, I've had them since the late nineties. Read my whole post and you'll see why I put them on there.
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But why try to make something an album that clearly isn't? You think a Snoop album is gonna have St. Ide's advertisements on it? If it's gonna be the "Lost Sessions", it really shouldn't be structured like an album. Just give us a good collection of unreleased Death Row era Snoop and it's all good.
I agree with your comments on "The Chronic Re-Lit". They'd have been better off just using the second disc to put out all the rare but released B-side material from the singles (like the recent deluxe edition of "Criminal Minded").
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deathrow forum admin said theres 400 songs by Snoop in the vault so the possibilities are endless for this album.
If true that rivals 2pac's catalog.
but the quality of music is easily in 2pac's favor
EH?? you havent heard any of them
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I've heard they recorded about 150 songs durning Doggystyle sessions so they def got a large catalogue they can pick of..
Whatever tracklist they going to make I just hope a CDQ version of Street Life is gonna be on it 8)
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But why try to make something an album that clearly isn't? You think a Snoop album is gonna have St. Ide's advertisements on it? If it's gonna be the "Lost Sessions", it really shouldn't be structured like an album. Just give us a good collection of unreleased Death Row era Snoop and it's all good.
I agree with your comments on "The Chronic Re-Lit". They'd have been better off just using the second disc to put out all the rare but released B-side material from the singles (like the recent deluxe edition of "Criminal Minded").
Well when I meant album I was thinking something with a consistent sound throughout the whole release, more than what u meant with an album structure but I think they got enough material where they could make it seem that way. That way we're not gonna hear a mind blowing Dr. Dre produced Snoop track from 1993, followed by a mediocre DJ Pooh produced Snoop track from 97. Not saying Pooh's productions are mediocre, but I'm just giving an example of how an inconsistent sound kinda takes something away from the music. And I wouldn't have titled it "Lost Sessions" either.
The St. Ides track could actually fit perfectly. What they could do is record some new WBallz skits and then have EZ Dick say something along the lines of "and now a word from our sponsors" in one of them and then they break into the St. Ides commercial.
I'm grateful to get any unreleased music, but I think that some ways are better than others when it comes to marketing this stuff. If I was in charge, I would make a Doggystyle 2 outta this project instead of "Lost Sessions." That's all I'm saying.
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more pac, prince ital and sam sneed-featured tracks.
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I'm down for unreleased song that gets put on the tracklist. But what I'd really like to hear is the Next Episode OG.
Stranded On Death Row (Remix)
Never heard there was a remix of this? Who's featured on it?
No idea. It was on the asset list and it was from 93. That's all we know about it sorry.
oh shit there's a remix? :o
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But why try to make something an album that clearly isn't? You think a Snoop album is gonna have St. Ide's advertisements on it? If it's gonna be the "Lost Sessions", it really shouldn't be structured like an album. Just give us a good collection of unreleased Death Row era Snoop and it's all good.
I agree with your comments on "The Chronic Re-Lit". They'd have been better off just using the second disc to put out all the rare but released B-side material from the singles (like the recent deluxe edition of "Criminal Minded").
Well when I meant album I was thinking something with a consistent sound throughout the whole release, more than what u meant with an album structure but I think they got enough material where they could make it seem that way. That way we're not gonna hear a mind blowing Dr. Dre produced Snoop track from 1993, followed by a mediocre DJ Pooh produced Snoop track from 97. Not saying Pooh's productions are mediocre, but I'm just giving an example of how an inconsistent sound kinda takes something away from the music. And I wouldn't have titled it "Lost Sessions" either.
The St. Ides track could actually fit perfectly. What they could do is record some new WBallz skits and then have EZ Dick say something along the lines of "and now a word from our sponsors" in one of them and then they break into the St. Ides commercial.
I'm grateful to get any unreleased music, but I think that some ways are better than others when it comes to marketing this stuff. If I was in charge, I would make a Doggystyle 2 outta this project instead of "Lost Sessions." That's all I'm saying.
But I don't think you can truly get that without the involvement of the artist and I think calling it "Doggystyle 2" would be a mistake on their part. You can't craft a true follow-up to a classic record by throwing together leftovers from the original. In my opinion unless you have a Dr. Dre or Snoop or Daz working with you, you're better off just compiling the best music and letting the fans do what they want with it. Even if you break it down to a specific time period, it's very difficult to recreate that kind of thing.
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But why try to make something an album that clearly isn't? You think a Snoop album is gonna have St. Ide's advertisements on it? If it's gonna be the "Lost Sessions", it really shouldn't be structured like an album. Just give us a good collection of unreleased Death Row era Snoop and it's all good.
I agree with your comments on "The Chronic Re-Lit". They'd have been better off just using the second disc to put out all the rare but released B-side material from the singles (like the recent deluxe edition of "Criminal Minded").
Well when I meant album I was thinking something with a consistent sound throughout the whole release, more than what u meant with an album structure but I think they got enough material where they could make it seem that way. That way we're not gonna hear a mind blowing Dr. Dre produced Snoop track from 1993, followed by a mediocre DJ Pooh produced Snoop track from 97. Not saying Pooh's productions are mediocre, but I'm just giving an example of how an inconsistent sound kinda takes something away from the music. And I wouldn't have titled it "Lost Sessions" either.
The St. Ides track could actually fit perfectly. What they could do is record some new WBallz skits and then have EZ Dick say something along the lines of "and now a word from our sponsors" in one of them and then they break into the St. Ides commercial.
I'm grateful to get any unreleased music, but I think that some ways are better than others when it comes to marketing this stuff. If I was in charge, I would make a Doggystyle 2 outta this project instead of "Lost Sessions." That's all I'm saying.
But I don't think you can truly get that without the involvement of the artist and I think calling it "Doggystyle 2" would be a mistake on their part. You can't craft a true follow-up to a classic record by throwing together leftovers from the original. In my opinion unless you have a Dr. Dre or Snoop or Daz working with you, you're better off just compiling the best music and letting the fans do what they want with it. Even if you break it down to a specific time period, it's very difficult to recreate that kind of thing.
I agree. I think Doggystyle is the only album they could really do it with though. Maybe calling it "The Missing Doggystyle Sessions" or something would be more fitting. Oh well, I dont give a fuck in the end because WideAwake will release, within their power, what we want to hear. The only thing that's going to stop us from getting the tracks we want are going to be legal issues that WideAwake can hopefully get around or work out with the people behind them.
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It seems like the DPG Camp worked a little slower than Pac in terms of pumping out songs, but I think the reason for that is they focused so much more on completing the material. It's stories like this one from the All Eyez on Me XXL making of interviews that that sum it up for me.....
Rick Clifford: 'Pac was very adamant that the album was spontaneous. Everything that you hear, everybody got one take. They couldn't go back and fix anything. 'Pac said that number one, hip-hop is different from R&B. If a guy can't get out and spit eight to 16 bars, he's not ready yet. Then he said he loves the first take because there's a certain feel to it. He said if people go back and try and fix it, they would start thinking about it, they would lose the feel, they would mess it up. So the only one who refused to get out there like that was Snoop. Snoop said he'd come back tomorrow and do it. I think Snoop went home and wrote his stuff, learned his stuff came in and knocked it off, first take. All Snoop said was, "Wait a minute. You ain't going to put me out on one take. I'll come back and do it tomorrow"
I think generally speaking the quality of the unreleased DPG material is significantly higher in terms of production values and finalized, polished tracks that anyone elses at Death Row. The DPG camp had so many producers in their prime at their beck and call right then and there ex. Daz, Soopafly, LT Hutton, Dj Pooh plus all the support engineers and uncredited musicians. That, with the abundance of people to do hooks like Val, Nate, Big Pimpin, Ital Joe, Danny Boy etc and the collaborative nature of all their songs made for music that was really rich with quality. Pac might have pumped out a shit load of stuff in the short time he was on Death Row but the DPG had been there for years before him and years after.
I'm more excited about the DPG stuff than anything else. Also, side note... is it just me or did anyone else NOT see any of the Re-Lit bonus tracks mentioned in the Asset PDF's? If these are the original titles that means the Asset PDF's don't show everything that's there 8)
5. DOGG COLLAR - SNOOP DOGGY DOGG, BAD AZZ, BIG PIMPIN'
6. TOUCH DOWN - SNOOP DOGGY DOGG, THREAT
7. WOULD U RIDE? - DAZ, KURUPT, SNOOP DOGGY DOGG