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Title: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 22, 2009, 03:02:57 PM
Cube would of killed Pac's career, made him look foolish, probably best Suge told Pac not to fuck with Cube (especially Cube at that time period)
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: MILFSTA on August 22, 2009, 03:42:53 PM
pac and cube were homies you stupid moron and if there was a beef pac would  make cube cry haha i mean even b-real and kam killed cube lol
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: 2euce 7even on August 22, 2009, 03:48:23 PM
i dont think so..ice cube was an og indeed but.. he was just an LA-rapper rappin about fake-crippin, smokin´,chucks, rags (neutral) and bang bang.
AND ´PAC WUZ AN ARTIST
MAKAVELI RIP
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: J.E. on August 22, 2009, 03:49:53 PM
i dont think so..ice cube was an og indeed but.. he was just an LA-rapper rappin about fake-crippin, smokin´,chucks, rags (neutral) and bang bang.
AND ´PAC WUZ AN ARTIST
MAKAVELI RIP


You clearly haven't listened to Ice Cube's music.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: woof on August 22, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
cube would have murked pac with no vaseline
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Hatesrats™ on August 22, 2009, 03:58:52 PM
As a fan of both, I'm glad "Cube" decided not to bust back.
(Pac had already defo laid down some subliminal's @ Cube + some darts during interviews.)

Pac felt alot of the WS artists who were claiming "WS" on their albums or whatever mearly were just trying to capitalize off the
"Death Row Vs. Bad Boy"/EastCoast/West Coast bullshit...

I guess Pac didn't listen to Cube's 1993 album "Lethal Injection" where Cube praises The Westside on just about every track.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: IF NOT ME THEN WHO on August 22, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
ice cube was one of the most well rounded artist of that time and to date if u judge him from his old material. cube made records about erything from hiv to uncle sam to shoot em up to childrens fairy tale, and he was claiming not to bang way back on amerikkkas most wanted so i dont know where u get the fake crippin thing. that was wc with the fake crippin
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Blasphemy on August 22, 2009, 04:39:50 PM
They had a beef? lmao Honestly 2PAC wouldn't been in a good postion. Hit em Up despite being a classic record would of been killed by No Vaseline. Vaseline was a fucking Tirade, and unlike hit em up which had guest, Vase was a Solo deal.

But this wouldn't of EVER happened.

2pac had no beef with cube (nore did cube have beef with 2pac).

2pac since his first record has shown respect for Ice Cube's carrier, SOC, AMW, DC.

Second Record, 2pac FEATURED Ice Cube (Ice had pretty much start his Movie stint around this time, as such 2PAC didn't get a guess on his album).

Ice Cube (and dre) both had 2pac in the NBK video.

Ice Cube claimed West Side in Lethal Injection in 1993, while 2pac started really really going all out in 1995/1996.

If it wasn't for Ice Cube in N.W.A, or for his Solo albums,  2PAC wouldn't even been in the game. Cause no one gave a shit for the west until Ice T,N.W.A and the other acts came along.

Besides 2pac had no real grounds to even do it, besides the friends. What would he diss him on? Ice Claimed west before, He did his G-Funk work before him, He brought the west up, and did work with N.W.A. Lets face it, 2pac wouldn't be able to do anything except maybe talk about him in Boyz, but then Cube can come back in Juice, Poetic Justice, and Above The Rim.

Hell in Juice he can say "You said you played your self, just some punk nigga tired of getting pelted, Whos brain fucking melted" (Yes I write shitty lyrics you ge the idea).

Poetic He can say he was a punk

And in Above The Rim, well He got shot by Marlon Wayns.

Honestly Ice Cube would of had more material to use. With the Rape Conviction (even though it was bullshit), the Prison stint (Can say he was a prison bitch, and thats the only way he got out), The AIDS thing with Janet.Even the little kid getting killed cause of the fight between 2pac's people and other people.

Ice had more material at his disposal. Only reason all the disses at the time couldn't stand up to Hit Em Up, was because the Artist were shit.

But I know one thing. lol Both We'd see more Diss tracks like Hit em up and No Vaseline. Honestly I'd be fucking awesome. lol now I wish they had, Only thing I wanted though was Ice and 2pac to Collaborate more during 2pac's Death Row years cause finally 2pac had Crazy Production, and it would of just been amazing. lol Them (along with Ice T) were Amazing on Strictly 4 my niggaz lol
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Job starring as King Of Zamunda on August 22, 2009, 04:53:38 PM
damn eye dont know cube was raw back in the day. before he let these honkies pimp him
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: 174Proof on August 22, 2009, 04:56:40 PM
That would've been some bull shit 'cause both rappers rhymed about shit that matters other than gangsta shit. No need for those type to beef.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: dubsmith_nz on August 22, 2009, 06:13:58 PM
damn eye dont know cube was raw back in the day. before he let these honkies pimp him

The fuck? you gotta atleast have heard him on NWA, Cube always been raw as fuck...
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Blasphemy on August 22, 2009, 07:43:11 PM
damn eye dont know cube was raw back in the day. before he let these honkies pimp him

If you need 2 do some Research. Ice Cube is a Great, a Legend on this coast. THe stuff he did can only be compared 2 a few. Check out his Albums:Amerikkkaz Most Wanted, Death Certificate,  The Predator, Lethal Injection, Boot Legs and B-Sides.

Those albums define everything people had to deal with. From the institutionalized racism, the troubles, the good times, the injustice. Cube Inspired 2pac, and a gang of artist 2 come.

No mater what he does today, I'll always have great respect 4 what he did back in the days when rap wasn't bullshit.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 22, 2009, 08:22:50 PM
Cube would of killed Pac's career, made him look foolish, probably best Suge told Pac not to fuck with Cube (especially Cube at that time period)

Lol you assclown


did you see Cube get OWNED by common?  he ran to the fucking REverand Ferrikan to squash the beef so he didnt have to reply.

the bitch in you ended Ice Cube's tough guy image.  even more than his acting.


Cube was insulted enough by not being a guset on All Eyez On Me when DJ Pooh even produced for it
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 22, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjrT29f8fhY

http://mjrT29f8fhY
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: JD Bastin on August 23, 2009, 08:10:17 AM
Cube would of killed Pac's career, made him look foolish, probably best Suge told Pac not to fuck with Cube (especially Cube at that time period)

2pac would've ended ice cubes career worse than the youtube video posted above

are you 13 Mr LBIA?
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Okka on August 23, 2009, 09:50:23 AM
Lyrically Cube would have murdeder Tupac, i don't know about killin' his career though.

did you see Cube get OWNED by common?  he ran to the fucking REverand Ferrikan to squash the beef so he didnt have to reply.

I thought Common was scared to catch a beat-up? Was it Cube who decided to talk to Ferrikan?
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: famozni on August 23, 2009, 11:06:44 AM
whiy did common and cube had beef? can somebody explain it to me?
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: JD Bastin on August 23, 2009, 11:12:51 AM
whiy did common and cube had beef? can somebody explain it to me?


common made the song "i used to love her"

cube went and made WEstside Slaughterhouse, attacking common in his first verse  (its a W.C. track)


common made a diss response (full fledged attack) and Cube called up Farrikhan to squash it
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: JD Bastin on August 23, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
Lyrically Cube would have murdeder Tupac, i don't know about killin' his career though.


Biggie LYRICALLY would've murdered 2pac, but he didn't have the gaul to reply until after PAc died


cube's diss track to eazy e was not very solid lyrically.  immature disses do not make a great diss track.  now, it was a VERY catchy song with solid energy from Cube's voice.  that works in his favor, but the lyrics were nothing special like what common did.


common teared Cube's tough guy image into shreds.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Hatesrats™ on August 23, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
Lyrically Cube would have murdeder Tupac, i don't know about killin' his career though.


Biggie LYRICALLY would've murdered 2pac, but he didn't have the gaul to reply until after PAc died


cube's diss track to eazy e was not very solid lyrically.  immature disses do not make a great diss track.  now, it was a VERY catchy song with solid energy from Cube's voice.  that works in his favor, but the lyrics were nothing special like what common did.


common teared Cube's tough guy image into shreds.
Common is cool... BUt listening to his music recent;y
(I guess he divorced HER)
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 23, 2009, 12:05:59 PM
damn this would have been crazy
but whats the deal wit this?
didnt know bout pac/cube have any beef?

who spoke on who first?
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: JD Bastin on August 23, 2009, 12:13:12 PM
Lyrically Cube would have murdeder Tupac, i don't know about killin' his career though.


Biggie LYRICALLY would've murdered 2pac, but he didn't have the gaul to reply until after PAc died


cube's diss track to eazy e was not very solid lyrically.  immature disses do not make a great diss track.  now, it was a VERY catchy song with solid energy from Cube's voice.  that works in his favor, but the lyrics were nothing special like what common did.


common teared Cube's tough guy image into shreds.
Common is cool... BUt listening to his music recent;y
(I guess he divorced HER)


i dont care for common anymore but that song ruined ice cube's tough guy persona
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Okka on August 23, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
whiy did common and cube had beef? can somebody explain it to me?


common made the song "i used to love her"

cube went and made Westside Slaughterhouse, attacking common in his first verse  (its a W.C. track)

It's Mack 10's song, it was on his first album.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Jimmy H. on August 23, 2009, 12:33:08 PM
cube's diss track to eazy e was not very solid lyrically.  immature disses do not make a great diss track.  now, it was a VERY catchy song with solid energy from Cube's voice.  that works in his favor, but the lyrics were nothing special like what common did.
Get outta here! "No Vasoline" was one of the hardest diss tracks ever. He came out swinging on that one.

As for the Pac-Cube "beef", I don't think it ever would have gone to that level but I'm also someone who doesn't view the simple exchange of disses as a "beef". Beef means if my people and your people are in the same room, drama is going to pop off. And Pac wasn't saying Cube didn't start repping Westside until whenever, he said Cube and them weren't making "Bow Down" kind of tracks before. It was kind of like that Outlawz line towards Xzibit, it wasn't a diss. More of a criticism. It's in how the individual takes it that decides what it will be.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: JD Bastin on August 23, 2009, 01:00:12 PM
so making a bunch of jokes Eazy E and Jerry HEller is "hard"??


Common came with real facts about Cube being a phoney


Cube calls Eazy E gay.  very complx huh?
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Jimmy H. on August 23, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
The thing is you can play down the affect of any good diss record. You could say all "Hit Em Up" was was Pac calling Biggie fat and talking about fucking his wife. Or all "Dre Day" and "Real Motherfuckin' G'z" were was Dre and Eazy trading gay jokes back and forth. "No Vasoline" isn't about Eazy being gay. He's saying Eazy selling out his boys in the group so that he and his manager can keep it for themselves and that the rest of N.W.A. are just fools being roped along. The song definitely was affective so you can't really say it failed. Facts certainly help in building a great diss record but in the end, the objective third party listener isn't likely to know which side of the story is true and in most cases, both versions will be exagerrated (in most cases, intentially so for comedic effect). It's more about perception. The majority of people will give Game credit for defeating 50 because 50's label has fallen in sales since the start of the beef. But does the fact that Game hasn't even jumpstarted his label yet and has never come close to outselling 50 as a solo artist ever come in to question? No, because Game is clever with the world play. Once the audience hears the clever line about G-Unit dropping bricks, their mind is made up whether the Soundscan numbers support it or not.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 23, 2009, 01:28:17 PM
damn real talk




The thing is you can play down the affect of any good diss record. You could say all "Hit Em Up" was was Pac calling Biggie fat and talking about fucking his wife. Or all "Dre Day" and "Real Motherfuckin' G'z" were was Dre and Eazy trading gay jokes back and forth. "No Vasoline" isn't about Eazy being gay. He's saying Eazy selling out his boys in the group so that he and his manager can keep it for themselves and that the rest of N.W.A. are just fools being roped along. The song definitely was affective so you can't really say it failed. Facts certainly help in building a great diss record but in the end, the objective third party listener isn't likely to know which side of the story is true and in most cases, both versions will be exagerrated (in most cases, intentially so for comedic effect). It's more about perception. The majority of people will give Game credit for defeating 50 because 50's label has fallen in sales since the start of the beef. But does the fact that Game hasn't even jumpstarted his label yet and has never come close to outselling 50 as a solo artist ever come in to question? No, because Game is clever with the world play. Once the audience hears the clever line about G-Unit dropping bricks, their mind is made up whether the Soundscan numbers support it or not.
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 23, 2009, 01:42:04 PM
Cube murdered Cypress Hill, on King of the Hill, don't know what you stans talking about


and Cube dropping No Vaseline on Pac would have put Pac on coolio status
Title: Re: The best thing 2pac ever did: Not going through with the beef with Ice Cube
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 23, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
just go listen to "the bitch in you" and tell me Cube is stilla credible lol