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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: biggdazdilly on September 08, 2009, 08:49:06 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_-d0GpPWM yeah its baccc up
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hey daz, you gonna refund people for MAkaveli and Dillinger yet???
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Good to hear the other side.. lol Daz had me cracking up.. Bigg A has it right with Koch too.
Also.. the couple whiners about Makaveli & Dillinger get a life.. I'm sure you're hard up for the $50 that kronik stole from you.
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Good to hear the other side.. lol Daz had me cracking up.. Bigg A has it right with Koch too.
Also.. the couple whiners about Makaveli & Dillinger get a life.. I'm sure you're hard up for the $50 that kronik stole from you.
Lmao.............+1
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Good to hear the other side.. lol Daz had me cracking up.. Bigg A has it right with Koch too.
Also.. the couple whiners about Makaveli & Dillinger get a life.. I'm sure you're hard up for the $50 that kronik stole from you.
wow, yeah let someone get away with robbing his own fans of 50 bucks each....that's smart. he should also be punished for putting out the last 4 or 5 CD's that he has...
luckely it wasn't my 50 bucks but i still don't think that shit si right and if u do then ur a fucking moron
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Fuck DPG, fuck Snoop you are WACK to Date come back with youre old Flow from the Death Row Dayz Not that synth Pop shit you are independend no Big Record Label want you,i was a Big Fan of you and Snoop back in the Day but Not from the New shit.Lara makes à good Job for the Fans they want the orginal Music back thank you wideawake
before you enter an american westcoast forum again please learn how to spell & talk dog...... ;)
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Good to hear the other side.. lol Daz had me cracking up.. Bigg A has it right with Koch too.
Also.. the couple whiners about Makaveli & Dillinger get a life.. I'm sure you're hard up for the $50 that kronik stole from you.
wow, yeah let someone get away with robbing his own fans of 50 bucks each....that's smart. he should also be punished for putting out the last 4 or 5 CD's that he has...
luckely it wasn't my 50 bucks but i still don't think that shit si right and if u do then ur a fucking moron
kronik got the money.. not Daz. If it wasn't even your dealing you're just talkin out of your ass anyway.
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fuck you mean talking out my ass... how??
because 2000 peeps never got refunded?? and calling someone out on it?
plz explain that to me
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fuck you mean talking out my ass... how??
because 2000 peeps never got refunded?? and calling someone out on it?
plz explain that to me
Cause you're wrong I was a mod on the Gangstaville forums and know what I'm talking about and saw that shit go down. Ask anyone who was active in that forum. Not even 2,000 orders and refunds were given to almost everyone.
Holla at nando and Toonz they'll tell you the same shit..
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who the hell are Nando and Toonz
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yo how do i get a hold of nando... haha i used to talk to him all the time
kronik owed me money too.... but i interviewd DAZ for WESTCOASTRYDAZ.com and kronik hooked up free entrance to GRAND AVE CLUB for DPGC U KNOW WHAT IM THROWIN UP ALBUM RELEASE PARTY
i met soopafly and fredwreck there... lol and kronik... hes an indean lookin nerd
anyone know how to get a hold of nando... haha i wonder if dude even remembers me
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yo how do i get a hold of nando... haha i used to talk to him all the time
kronik owed me money too.... but i interviewd DAZ for WESTCOASTRYDAZ.com and kronik hooked up free entrance to GRAND AVE CLUB for DPGC U KNOW WHAT IM THROWIN UP ALBUM RELEASE PARTY
i met soopafly and fredwreck there... lol and kronik... hes an indean lookin nerd
anyone know how to get a hold of nando... haha i wonder if dude even remembers me
Check your PMs
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who the hell are Nando and Toonz
Exactly.. that's why you're talking out of your ass.
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Bigg A made some great points about the situation.Just seems like the artists are all waiting to see what wideawake does.
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lol daz was cracking me up. I didn't quite understand what they were getting at...no way daz makes $25-50K per track...who the fuck does he even produce for?
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yo daz, you gonna get those pressed hard copy cd's of your "public enemiez" lp on amazon.com or cduniverse.com?...
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There was a few who paid $500
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daz took the youtube video down. i wonder why,...
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There was a few who paid $500
That's even stupider.. there was one person who paid $500 and his name was Jermaine..
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Can someone fill me in on what was said, recap the interview 8)
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^cant help u there.
I used to buy the chuuch mix tapes from tooz an a few other things also an he always sent the items but when i went to support Daz whom iam a big fan of on his myspace page(i think i was ordering soopaflys album when it was only availeable digital(dont really know why i paid for a digital album but)) Daz wouldnt even semd me the link, he never did.
I ended up just downloading it for free in the end. Good way to treat your fans who actually go out of their way to support huh?
But it may have been someone else runnin Dazs page i guess..
J.t tha bigga figure was relieable.
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Yeah, I'd buy from Toon too. He had really cheap prices on DPG product that wasn't in stores and always delivered. It's weird because I remember back in the day when I ordered a whole bunch of DPG Cd's and that excited feeling I got when they arrived in the mail. I wish I could still give a shit about music like I did back then.
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^cant help u there.
I used to buy the chuuch mix tapes from tooz an a few other things also an he always sent the items but when i went to support Daz whom iam a big fan of on his myspace page(i think i was ordering soopaflys album when it was only availeable digital(dont really know why i paid for a digital album but)) Daz wouldnt even semd me the link, he never did.
I ended up just downloading it for free in the end. Good way to treat your fans who actually go out of their way to support huh?
But it may have been someone else runnin Dazs page i guess..
J.t tha bigga figure was relieable.
Yeah I got the Soopafly album online too, Bangin' West Coast, after you bought it you got the link on the PayPal purchase page, you must of missed the link but it was all within the system during the checkout process of the company that hosted it.
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Can someone fill me in on what was said, recap the interview 8)
In summary, its a wait and see what happens..
They said... Wideawake is getting shafted by Koch by telling them the Snoop album should only do 35,000 units, explaining Dogg Chit did 100,000 units. Bigg A said it would do 35,000 if it wasnt promoted or marketed. Daz was explaining they were diluting themselves and the artists. Talking about how Snoop would sell more if it were done right. The $15k offer was to get Daz to promote and remix tracks and to sign a release. Wideawake wanted Daz to promote their stuff with Snoop but seems they didn't really get at Snoop about it and Daz was saying he wouldn't do it without Snoop. Daz said that John Payne was around for a split second before he was gone and there was good reason for getting rid of him. They both were talking about how the old shit is dope and the fans wanna hear it but come holla at them when things are straight. They wanna make sure people are paid by Wideawake and things are done right.
There were a few other things too.. but that's the main idea.
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Can someone fill me in on what was said, recap the interview 8)
In summary, its a wait and see what happens..
They said... Wideawake is getting shafted by Koch by telling them the Snoop album should only do 35,000 units, explaining Dogg Chit did 100,000 units. Bigg A said it would do 35,000 if it wasnt promoted or marketed. Daz was explaining they were diluting themselves and the artists. Talking about how Snoop would sell more if it were done right. The $15k offer was to get Daz to promote and remix tracks and to sign a release. Wideawake wanted Daz to promote their stuff with Snoop but seems they didn't really get at Snoop about it and Daz was saying he wouldn't do it without Snoop. Daz said that John Payne was around for a split second before he was gone and there was good reason for getting rid of him. They both were talking about how the old shit is dope and the fans wanna hear it but come holla at them when things are straight. They wanna make sure people are paid by Wideawake and things are done right.
There were a few other things too.. but that's the main idea.
Unfortunately I didn't get to see the video before it was taken down, so thanks for summarizing it. I agree with Daz that if they wanted him to promote their stuff with Snoop, they should have spoken with Snoop as well as Daz. I thought they said that they had already spoken with Snoop though. But if they didn't, I think they should have. However, even if the first several Wideawake released don't do big numbers (especially when no one seems to want to step up and help them promote the releases), isn't some money in royalty checks better than no money? I mean, after all, there was a pretty good chance that Suge was never going to release a lot of this material when it was still in his possession. Wideawake at least wants to get the material out there. After all, you can't make money when you never offer anything for sale. I say Daz should at least wait and see what happens with " The Chronic: Re-Lit." If things go as planned, he should start to see some money from that. I'm guessing probably the Snoop Doggy Dogg album too. At the very least he shouldn't want to say anything too bad about Wideawake. Whether he agrees to sign any deal with them, he'll be making money off of many of their future releases.
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yea i would like to see sum new old shit come out. But it cant be scrapz. it soundz like wide awake has itz work cut out for them.
u know what else......IM ONLY BUYIN THE CHRONIC RELIT BECAUSE C.P.O. BOSS HOGG aka LIL NATION is gonna be on that mutha phuka! JUS SO U KNOW.......
myspace.com/krooklookbugzy
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what's the point of making a topic & then remove the video.
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also good to hear the dogg pound albums "get paid" & "100 wayz" are still comin.
also i'm wonderin if daz's Neu-ro project of the dogg pound album called "that was then, this is now" is still droppin?
that's supposedly 2cd. one cd being old dogg pound music, and another cd being new dogg pound music.
waitin for that aswell
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what's the point of making a topic & then remove the video.
yh i know. so it seems snoop aint promoting this project
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he got a point though Koch is fucking up this release just like what they did with slaughterhouse
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fuck you mean talking out my ass... how??
because 2000 peeps never got refunded?? and calling someone out on it?
plz explain that to me
Cause you're wrong I was a mod on the Gangstaville forums and know what I'm talking about and saw that shit go down. Ask anyone who was active in that forum. Not even 2,000 orders and refunds were given to almost everyone.
Holla at nando and Toonz they'll tell you the same shit..
I NEVER GOT REFUNDED U LIAR
HOW DO I GET AHOLD OF THEM
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Can someone fill me in on what was said, recap the interview 8)
In summary, its a wait and see what happens..
They said... Wideawake is getting shafted by Koch by telling them the Snoop album should only do 35,000 units, explaining Dogg Chit did 100,000 units. Bigg A said it would do 35,000 if it wasnt promoted or marketed. Daz was explaining they were diluting themselves and the artists. Talking about how Snoop would sell more if it were done right. The $15k offer was to get Daz to promote and remix tracks and to sign a release. Wideawake wanted Daz to promote their stuff with Snoop but seems they didn't really get at Snoop about it and Daz was saying he wouldn't do it without Snoop. Daz said that John Payne was around for a split second before he was gone and there was good reason for getting rid of him. They both were talking about how the old shit is dope and the fans wanna hear it but come holla at them when things are straight. They wanna make sure people are paid by Wideawake and things are done right.
There were a few other things too.. but that's the main idea.
Unfortunately I didn't get to see the video before it was taken down, so thanks for summarizing it. I agree with Daz that if they wanted him to promote their stuff with Snoop, they should have spoken with Snoop as well as Daz. I thought they said that they had already spoken with Snoop though. But if they didn't, I think they should have. However, even if the first several Wideawake released don't do big numbers (especially when no one seems to want to step up and help them promote the releases), isn't some money in royalty checks better than no money? I mean, after all, there was a pretty good chance that Suge was never going to release a lot of this material when it was still in his possession. Wideawake at least wants to get the material out there. After all, you can't make money when you never offer anything for sale. I say Daz should at least wait and see what happens with " The Chronic: Re-Lit." If things go as planned, he should start to see some money from that. I'm guessing probably the Snoop Doggy Dogg album too. At the very least he shouldn't want to say anything too bad about Wideawake. Whether he agrees to sign any deal with them, he'll be making money off of many of their future releases.
True but judging from the snoop doggy dogg cd'z tracklisting, that cd looks gangster and should do well over 100k plus. They gota promote that shit right. So inorder to promote it right.......they need snoop and he'll come for the right price and wideawake isn't willing to pay the big bucks.
I personally don't care ill download the cd and if i like it....i'll cop it for sure. I don't think they should fumble on the snoop cd b/c how many crazy unreleased snoop can they possibly have? That cd looks str8 and i think has the potential to put them back on the map. But im kinda talkin shit cuz i havent 1 track from the cd ....just seen the tracklisting ....haha
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he got a point though Koch is fucking up this release just like what they did with slaughterhouse
true.
i mean, this is a snoop album from his best years (1991 - 1997), when he was at deathrow, with all unheard tracks.
this album is bound to atleast move more than 100k units. if daz & kurupt's "dogg chit" album (which was released by koch) can do more than 100k world wide, then surely a snoop dogg album can.
maybe they will press up more, depending on how quickly the album sells. they shouldve pressed up more tho. thats ridiculous.
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There was a few who paid $500
That's even stupider.. there was one person who paid $500 and his name was Jermaine..
Jermaine is a common alias used by people
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There was a few who paid $500
That's even stupider.. there was one person who paid $500 and his name was Jermaine..
Jermaine is a common alias used by people
So your assumption is a few people all named Jermaine paid $500 for it. Even stupider again..
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fuck you mean talking out my ass... how??
because 2000 peeps never got refunded?? and calling someone out on it?
plz explain that to me
Cause you're wrong I was a mod on the Gangstaville forums and know what I'm talking about and saw that shit go down. Ask anyone who was active in that forum. Not even 2,000 orders and refunds were given to almost everyone.
Holla at nando and Toonz they'll tell you the same shit..
I NEVER GOT REFUNDED U LIAR
HOW DO I GET AHOLD OF THEM
Wannabe bootleggers who claim they have fake OGs and want to sell them for $400 on dubcnn get no love. The real Bastin for one was not a bootlegger or that fucking retarded cause he would already know what's up with the situation here.
Thanks for proving your fake! :)
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Daz, when can we buy PUBLIC ENEMIES on CD????
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Yeah I got the Soopafly album online too, Bangin' West Coast, after you bought it you got the link on the PayPal purchase page, you must of missed the link but it was all within the system during the checkout process of the company that hosted it.
I dunno daz was sposed to send the link an i contacted him several times an he kept replyin like "i'll send it homie" an neva did. i've orderd similar things from other places through pay pla an neva hada problem. When i messaged back saying fuck you i got it an i got the new dogg pound album downloaded he was like "good now u can finally hear it bitch" treats his fans well, dose Daz.
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Bigg A comes across as a guy who knows what hes talking about
Daz is funny lol
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who the hell are Nando and Toonz
Exactly.. that's why you're talking out of your ass.
fuck you you peice of shit
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who the hell are Nando and Toonz
Exactly.. that's why you're talking out of your ass.
fuck you you peice of shit
Great response.. learn to spell kid. Or is that the way you heard how to spell piece.. lol
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There was a few who paid $500
That's even stupider.. there was one person who paid $500 and his name was Jermaine..
Jermaine is a common alias used by people
So your assumption is a few people all named Jermaine paid $500 for it. Even stupider again..
:laugh:
I'm not assuming there was every guy and his dog called Jermaine who paid $500 for it, but that there was alias's/buying groups in the past who strung together to make high end purchases privately. I can remember a Jermaine name in the past that was indeed 5 people
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There was a few who paid $500
That's even stupider.. there was one person who paid $500 and his name was Jermaine..
Jermaine is a common alias used by people
So your assumption is a few people all named Jermaine paid $500 for it. Even stupider again..
:laugh:
I'm not assuming there was every guy and his dog called Jermaine who paid $500 for it, but that there was alias's/buying groups in the past who strung together to make high end purchases privately. I can remember a Jermaine name in the past that was indeed 5 people
You should just quit while you're down cause you're making yourself look retarded, there's people on this forum that know who Jermaine from Gangstaville is.
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There was a few who paid $500
That's even stupider.. there was one person who paid $500 and his name was Jermaine..
Jermaine is a common alias used by people
So your assumption is a few people all named Jermaine paid $500 for it. Even stupider again..
:laugh:
I'm not assuming there was every guy and his dog called Jermaine who paid $500 for it, but that there was alias's/buying groups in the past who strung together to make high end purchases privately. I can remember a Jermaine name in the past that was indeed 5 people
You should just quit while you're down cause you're making yourself look retarded, there's people on this forum that know who Jermaine from Gangstaville is.
Maybe you should re-read my last reply before eagerly jumping in to try and declare argumentative tendencies... Key points:
1) I'm not assuming there was every guy and his dog called Jermaine who paid $500 for it
2) There was a Jermaine name in the past that was indeed 5 people
& when I say past, I mean around 2002/2003 time. The Mak/Dilli EP was out a good year or two before that, and was stating that Jermaine is a common alias used by people. Why? probably because it was a memorable name for the certainty of providing funds due to the Makaveli Dillinger EP fiasco, but since I couldn't access the DPG Recordz forum back then I didn't know Jermaine on there was 1 person, but regarding other material it wasn't and that is fact
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There was a few who paid $500
That's even stupider.. there was one person who paid $500 and his name was Jermaine..
Jermaine is a common alias used by people
So your assumption is a few people all named Jermaine paid $500 for it. Even stupider again..
:laugh:
I'm not assuming there was every guy and his dog called Jermaine who paid $500 for it, but that there was alias's/buying groups in the past who strung together to make high end purchases privately. I can remember a Jermaine name in the past that was indeed 5 people
You should just quit while you're down cause you're making yourself look retarded, there's people on this forum that know who Jermaine from Gangstaville is.
Maybe you should re-read my last reply before eagerly jumping in to try and declare argumentative tendencies... Key points:
1) I'm not assuming there was every guy and his dog called Jermaine who paid $500 for it
2) There was a Jermaine name in the past that was indeed 5 people
& when I say past, I mean around 2002/2003 time. The Mak/Dilli EP was out a good year or two before that, and was stating that Jermaine is a common alias used by people. Why? probably because it was a memorable name for the certainty of providing funds due to the Makaveli Dillinger EP fiasco, but since I couldn't access the DPG Recordz forum back then I didn't know Jermaine on there was 1 person, but regarding other material it wasn't and that is fact
Keep making dumb excuses for your lack of knowledge.. next time don't bother to talk about shit you know nothing about then. It will make you look a lot less stupid.
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Finally got a chance to watch this interview. Very interesting stuff being said in this.
No matter how you feel about Wide Awake or even Daz for that matter, it's important to view BOTH sides of the story before blindly accepting something as fact.
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video is back
LMFAO Daz was funny as hell but they are right how can wideawake and koch only press 35,000 cds of an artist like snoop with material from his deathrow era??
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Fuck DPG, fuck Snoop you are WACK to Date come back with youre old Flow from the Death Row Dayz Not that synth Pop shit you are independend no Big Record Label want you,i was a Big Fan of you and Snoop back in the Day but Not from the New shit.Lara makes à good Job for the Fans they want the orginal Music back thank you wideawake
before you enter an american westcoast forum again please learn how to spell & talk dog...... ;)
lmfao i though it was borat.
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Daz, when can we buy PUBLIC ENEMIES on CD????
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Finally got a chance to watch this interview. Very interesting stuff being said in this.
No matter how you feel about Wide Awake or even Daz for that matter, it's important to view BOTH sides of the story before blindly accepting something as fact.
Agreed. But while I can understand that Daz feels pressing up 35,000 cds isn't nearly enough, he has to understand that if the cd doesn't sell well, E1 is stuck with 1000's of useless cds. I can see both sides of the argument. I seriously doubt E1 is going to set the limit of cds pressed at only 35,000 though. They may press 35,000 initially and see how it sells before they press more. And really, I don't see anything wrong with that. This isn't the same thing as a new Snoop studio album. And while the content of this album, is stuff that many of us on the forum have been waiting for for years, I don't think there's any way it will be a huge hit for the mainstream rap fans. Daz has to realize that most of the tracks on here are probably between 15 and 16 years old. While I prefer Snoop Dogg music from this era, I doubt the casual fan will have much interest.
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Daz respects no one including the fans who help him put food on his table. What gets me is that he disses people like Lara Levi yet he rides on their projects. Wideawake buys Deathrow and plans releases...oh- in comes Daz forms Neu Ro and promises to release music from back in the day. Didn't Daz downplay Wideawake's initiatives by claiming they have the old shit as he said?
Does anyone remember when DeathRow wanted to release Crooked I...there was Daz, ready to ride on their coat tails by releasing his Crooked I material. Let's not forget the Makaveli Dillinger screw job as well. Daz, take this from a fan- you're definitely talented but you're your worst enemy and until you grow out of your adolescent years you'll never get taken seriously by anyone. The only cd I have is when you were on DeathRow but like Kurupt once said "you don't do what you do no more"
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Daz respects no one including the fans who help him put food on his table. What gets me is that he disses people like Lara Levi yet he rides on their projects. Wideawake buys Deathrow and plans releases...oh- in comes Daz forms Neu Ro and promises to release music from back in the day. Didn't Daz downplay Wideawake's initiatives by claiming they have the old shit as he said?
Does anyone remember when DeathRow wanted to release Crooked I...there was Daz, ready to ride on their coat tails by releasing his Crooked I material. Let's not forget the Makaveli Dillinger screw job as well. Daz, take this from a fan- you're definitely talented but you're your worst enemy and until you grow out of your adolescent years you'll never get taken seriously by anyone. The only cd I have is when you were on DeathRow but like Kurupt once said "you don't do what you do no more"
So you're speaking on behalf on all Daz fans and taking old Kurupt quotes from when they were beefing.. lol
Ron Winter came up with Neu Ro and Snoop & Daz signed on. Wideawake is messing up and they're letting them know and to holla at them when they're straight.
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but bottomline sounds like daz is hatin
if they release these...he doesnt get any profit from it right, since he doesnt own his own publishin?
is that right?
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but bottomline sounds like daz is hatin
if they release these...he doesnt get any profit from it right, since he doesnt own his own publishin?
is that right?
He still sees some money from any release that he is credited for writing or producing. That's why I think all of this is sort of ridiculous. He may not like the particulars of how these are being released, but he's going to get money that he otherwise would not have received, had these tracks stayed in the vault. For instance, he will get paid for his guest appearances on The Chronic: Re-Lit and any appearances he may have on Snoop Doggy Dogg: The Lost Sessions.
This particular disagreement with Wideawake that Daz was speaking on, was a deal Lara Lavi offered him for promotion, vocals, and remixing. Daz opinion was that Wideawake's offer was too low. But regardless of that deal falling through, Daz will still get paid for every Death Row release that he was involved with creating.
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This is completely pointless, especially since if this Snoop Vault release sells poorly like Chronic Re-Lit, there's definitely not going to be a Daz release no matter how "timeless" the material is.
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but wait hold up...how can he get paid if he doesnt own his publishin? seer was sayin somethin bout that..or do you mean gettin paid in another way besides his publishin that he didnt own back then?
SO IF I UNDERSTOOD SEER RIGHT, THEY RELEASE THIS AND ONLY PERSON THAT WILL GET PAID IS DR. DRE IF HIS WORK APPEARS TO BE SOLD...EVEN THO HE DIDNT APPROVE OF IT?
(SINCE DRE OWNED HIS RIGHTS)
but bottomline sounds like daz is hatin
if they release these...he doesnt get any profit from it right, since he doesnt own his own publishin?
is that right?
He still sees some money from any release that he is credited for writing or producing. That's why I think all of this is sort of ridiculous. He may not like the particulars of how these are being released, but he's going to get money that he otherwise would not have received, had these tracks stayed in the vault. For instance, he will get paid for his guest appearances on The Chronic: Re-Lit and any appearances he may have on Snoop Doggy Dogg: The Lost Sessions.
This particular disagreement with Wideawake that Daz was speaking on, was a deal Lara Lavi offered him for promotion, vocals, and remixing. Daz opinion was that Wideawake's offer was too low. But regardless of that deal falling through, Daz will still get paid for every Death Row release that he was involved with creating.
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but bottomline sounds like daz is hatin
if they release these...he doesnt get any profit from it right, since he doesnt own his own publishin?
is that right?
He still sees some money from any release that he is credited for writing or producing. That's why I think all of this is sort of ridiculous. He may not like the particulars of how these are being released, but he's going to get money that he otherwise would not have received, had these tracks stayed in the vault. For instance, he will get paid for his guest appearances on The Chronic: Re-Lit and any appearances he may have on Snoop Doggy Dogg: The Lost Sessions.
This particular disagreement with Wideawake that Daz was speaking on, was a deal Lara Lavi offered him for promotion, vocals, and remixing. Daz opinion was that Wideawake's offer was too low. But regardless of that deal falling through, Daz will still get paid for every Death Row release that he was involved with creating.
Good factual post, thanks for the info my friend!
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Daz is a moron, Every other inmate is a retard. There it needed to be said.
but I say I think all the former inmates just moved on. Dr. Dre may of found success but in the end it had the worse situation. hell for all the originals it ended in the worse way.
All the artist had problems, it was getting very bad, 2pac died, and Suge Knight's bussiness tactics were finally coming to light. Getting off Death Row was hard cause the contracts cost the artist huge money to buy it out, plus they never got full royalties. I think they don't give a shit who runs it. I think they are just done with it.''
Then the Second dynasty had their own problems. They had The Realest 2pac controversy, The fact None dropped do to Suge. The label going into a bankrupt state do to all the law suits, the feuds. Honestly only way I see them giving DR their blessing now is if Lara actually doesn't fuck em over.
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but wait hold up...how can he get paid if he doesnt own his publishin? seer was sayin somethin bout that..or do you mean gettin paid in another way besides his publishin that he didnt own back then?
SO IF I UNDERSTOOD SEER RIGHT, THEY RELEASE THIS AND ONLY PERSON THAT WILL GET PAID IS DR. DRE IF HIS WORK APPEARS TO BE SOLD...EVEN THO HE DIDNT APPROVE OF IT?
(SINCE DRE OWNED HIS RIGHTS)
but bottomline sounds like daz is hatin
if they release these...he doesnt get any profit from it right, since he doesnt own his own publishin?
is that right?
He still sees some money from any release that he is credited for writing or producing. That's why I think all of this is sort of ridiculous. He may not like the particulars of how these are being released, but he's going to get money that he otherwise would not have received, had these tracks stayed in the vault. For instance, he will get paid for his guest appearances on The Chronic: Re-Lit and any appearances he may have on Snoop Doggy Dogg: The Lost Sessions.
This particular disagreement with Wideawake that Daz was speaking on, was a deal Lara Lavi offered him for promotion, vocals, and remixing. Daz opinion was that Wideawake's offer was too low. But regardless of that deal falling through, Daz will still get paid for every Death Row release that he was involved with creating.
Okay. I'm probably speaking out of my depth to a degree. But I was under the impression that anyone who is credited in creating a song, receives some amount of monetary compensation. Wouldn't that be considered Royalties? Can someone clarify this? Lara Lavi has also mentioned on many occasions that Wideawake was going to great pains to make sure that all artist involved in these releases would be compensated (even the ones who were previously not justly compensated). I guess to a degree I'm also assuming that Wideawake is doing what they said they were going to do.
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why the fuck is Daz always smoking in all of his internet statements? How can anyone take him seriously? it makes him sound retarded. if i was a businessman, why would i want to do ANY business with someone who behaves like this?? bottom line, daz is a dumb ass. he should be happy Wide Awake is reaching out to him to do any business, because they really don't need his permission at all to release his shit.
Daz wants to re-record his old shit and release it through "Neu Ro Records"? how retarded is that? remember the Dogg Pound Gangsta LP? is anybody still listening to "Bomb Ass Pussy 2005" or "Ambitionz az a Ridah 2005"? Didn't think so... nobody is going to want to listen to "Bomb Ass Pussy 2009" or "Ambitionz az a ridah 2009" either. We'll just listen to the originals Daz, thanks though.
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Daz respects no one including the fans who help him put food on his table. What gets me is that he disses people like Lara Levi yet he rides on their projects. Wideawake buys Deathrow and plans releases...oh- in comes Daz forms Neu Ro and promises to release music from back in the day. Didn't Daz downplay Wideawake's initiatives by claiming they have the old shit as he said?
Does anyone remember when DeathRow wanted to release Crooked I...there was Daz, ready to ride on their coat tails by releasing his Crooked I material. Let's not forget the Makaveli Dillinger screw job as well. Daz, take this from a fan- you're definitely talented but you're your worst enemy and until you grow out of your adolescent years you'll never get taken seriously by anyone. The only cd I have is when you were on DeathRow but like Kurupt once said "you don't do what you do no more"
So you're speaking on behalf on all Daz fans and taking old Kurupt quotes from when they were beefing.. lol
Ron Winter came up with Neu Ro and Snoop & Daz signed on. Wideawake is messing up and they're letting them know and to holla at them when they're straight.
how is Wideawake messing up, when there was miscommunication
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but wait hold up...how can he get paid if he doesnt own his publishin? seer was sayin somethin bout that..or do you mean gettin paid in another way besides his publishin that he didnt own back then?
SO IF I UNDERSTOOD SEER RIGHT, THEY RELEASE THIS AND ONLY PERSON THAT WILL GET PAID IS DR. DRE IF HIS WORK APPEARS TO BE SOLD...EVEN THO HE DIDNT APPROVE OF IT?
(SINCE DRE OWNED HIS RIGHTS)
but bottomline sounds like daz is hatin
if they release these...he doesnt get any profit from it right, since he doesnt own his own publishin?
is that right?
He still sees some money from any release that he is credited for writing or producing. That's why I think all of this is sort of ridiculous. He may not like the particulars of how these are being released, but he's going to get money that he otherwise would not have received, had these tracks stayed in the vault. For instance, he will get paid for his guest appearances on The Chronic: Re-Lit and any appearances he may have on Snoop Doggy Dogg: The Lost Sessions.
This particular disagreement with Wideawake that Daz was speaking on, was a deal Lara Lavi offered him for promotion, vocals, and remixing. Daz opinion was that Wideawake's offer was too low. But regardless of that deal falling through, Daz will still get paid for every Death Row release that he was involved with creating.
Okay. I'm probably speaking out of my depth to a degree. But I was under the impression that anyone who is credited in creating a song, receives some amount of monetary compensation. Wouldn't that be considered Royalties? Can someone clarify this? Lara Lavi has also mentioned on many occasions that Wideawake was going to great pains to make sure that all artist involved in these releases would be compensated (even the ones who were previously not justly compensated). I guess to a degree I'm also assuming that Wideawake is doing what they said they were going to do.
He'll only get royalties on songs where he has publishing credit - the publishing credit on most Death Row material was just Dre and Suge.
If you look in the album credits, Dre's is "Ain't Nuthin' Goin' On But Fuckin" and Suge is "Suge Publishing", and I think later "Big Simon Says Publishing"
Daz has publishing on some stuff - Retaliation, Revenge, and Get Back, but I don't think any on the Chronic or Doggystyle
WideAwake now owns all of Suge's publishing, but Daz would only get royalties if they negotiate on how much he gets of that publishing.
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lmfao Daz runs this shit, he runs the west
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but wait hold up...how can he get paid if he doesnt own his publishin? seer was sayin somethin bout that..or do you mean gettin paid in another way besides his publishin that he didnt own back then?
SO IF I UNDERSTOOD SEER RIGHT, THEY RELEASE THIS AND ONLY PERSON THAT WILL GET PAID IS DR. DRE IF HIS WORK APPEARS TO BE SOLD...EVEN THO HE DIDNT APPROVE OF IT?
(SINCE DRE OWNED HIS RIGHTS)
but bottomline sounds like daz is hatin
if they release these...he doesnt get any profit from it right, since he doesnt own his own publishin?
is that right?
He still sees some money from any release that he is credited for writing or producing. That's why I think all of this is sort of ridiculous. He may not like the particulars of how these are being released, but he's going to get money that he otherwise would not have received, had these tracks stayed in the vault. For instance, he will get paid for his guest appearances on The Chronic: Re-Lit and any appearances he may have on Snoop Doggy Dogg: The Lost Sessions.
This particular disagreement with Wideawake that Daz was speaking on, was a deal Lara Lavi offered him for promotion, vocals, and remixing. Daz opinion was that Wideawake's offer was too low. But regardless of that deal falling through, Daz will still get paid for every Death Row release that he was involved with creating.
Okay. I'm probably speaking out of my depth to a degree. But I was under the impression that anyone who is credited in creating a song, receives some amount of monetary compensation. Wouldn't that be considered Royalties? Can someone clarify this? Lara Lavi has also mentioned on many occasions that Wideawake was going to great pains to make sure that all artist involved in these releases would be compensated (even the ones who were previously not justly compensated). I guess to a degree I'm also assuming that Wideawake is doing what they said they were going to do.
He'll only get royalties on songs where he has publishing credit - the publishing credit on most Death Row material was just Dre and Suge.
If you look in the album credits, Dre's is "Ain't Nuthin' Goin' On But Fuckin" and Suge is "Suge Publishing", and I think later "Big Simon Says Publishing"
Daz has publishing on some stuff - Retaliation, Revenge, and Get Back, but I don't think any on the Chronic or Doggystyle
WideAwake now owns all of Suge's publishing, but Daz would only get royalties if they negotiate on how much he gets of that publishing.
Interesting. So then was he compensated for his guest appearances on Chronic and Doggystyle? In light of what you're saying, I'm guessing that his record deal was arranged so that he received payment for his vocals at the time the tracks were recorded. That makes sense, really. But I've heard several people saying that all the people involved in recording these albums would see some money from them, on these re-releases and unreleased projects. From what you're saying though, it sounds as though only Dr. Dre and Wideawake will receive any money from Chronic: Re-Lit. Unless there would be some other way all these other people would be getting paid, that we're not thinking of.
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Wideawake has no obligiation to pay any of the artists as they own all the publishing but Lavi has said she will be paying the artists so that she can heal the labels relationships with artists in hopes to ressuerect the label
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Wideawake has no obligiation to pay any of the artists as they own all the publishing but Lavi has said she will be paying the artists so that she can heal the labels relationships with artists in hopes to ressuerect the label
Yeah. I know they don't need the other artist's permission to release anything. And in that respect, I think Wideawake might be being too nice. Especially in light of the fact that it doesn't seem like many of the artists are offering them any help with promotion and such. I think if I were in charge at Wideawake, I'd just make a blanket statement that the door is always open for anyone who wants to help. But after that, I would just release whatever music I felt like releasing.
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Wideawake has no obligiation to pay any of the artists as they own all the publishing but Lavi has said she will be paying the artists so that she can heal the labels relationships with artists in hopes to ressuerect the label
Yep, I remember her saying that. And if her releases sell 3000 like 'Chronic Re-Lit' AND she wants to willingly out of kindness pay the artist then she really will go broke. I like the idea of her pressing up these albums and bringing them to the fans, but her best bet is to put the whole catalog online and make it 99 cent digital downloads and run commercials on VH1 and the radio and tell the fans you can download old Death Row songs for 99 cents online. Pressing all these units up isn't worth the printer and is inefficient when they just sit on the shelves.
And LOL at Bigg A saying Daz charges 25k to 50k per beat and sticking his nose up to the 15k. If she paid Daz 10 grand a week, or whatever he was asking for to do a few commercials and promos, wideawake would be in even worse debt. Does Daz really think that if he gets on youtube or a tv commercial these releases are going to scan 100k sales instead of 3000? LOL.
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If daz charges 25 to 50k no wonder the guy hasnt made a beat for anyone in so many years.Not even snoop would pay 50 k for one of his generic ass beats.
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daz is right though, 35k is a joke for that snoop album, and without the backing of these artists they are going to flop on all these albums
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daz is right though, 35k is a joke for that snoop album, and without the backing of these artists they are going to flop on all these albums
big a making a point,sum1 is tellin wideawake that they aint gonna sell enough,hes saying keep promoting and he and daz will also if things get sorted.
yh i agree.they should press up more,get the artist to promote it too.advertise like mad on tv 24/7,have banners on motorways showing the prodcut and in music stores,show posters around in music stores
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daz is right though, 35k is a joke for that snoop album, and without the backing of these artists they are going to flop on all these albums
big a making a point,sum1 is tellin wideawake that they aint gonna sell enough,hes saying keep promoting and he and daz will also if things get sorted.
yh i agree.they should press up more,get the artist to promote it too.advertise like mad on tv 24/7,have banners on motorways showing the prodcut and in music stores,show posters around in music stores
I think you're missin the point homie. Nobody in The South is looking for Death Row Records and they could care less if Daz sticks his face on there and tells people to buy it. The South buys the most records and nobody even cares about Death Row there. This thing is gonna scan 20k and most of the sales are going to come from the LA market. Nobody is even looking for Death Row Records. it would be a complete loss to pay Daz an outragous lump of cash to have him do a couple promos. Daz and Bigg A are just looking out for themselves and trying to get money anyway they can. Bigg A was saying to holler at RBX. What in the world would RBX do to sell more albums...most people don't even know who he is.