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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: ImmortalOne on November 06, 2002, 12:39:36 AM
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This shit is mind blowing, and further proves Pac was ahead of his time and was only gonna get better had he lived. Both versions of the song are classic, but the acoustic with Nas is absolutly off the hinges. Id go as far to say this is one of his greatest songs ever........2 AMAZING verses from Pac, and an equally amazing verse from Nas. This shit is too ill for words, especially Pac's last verse, where he describes a picture of heaven as if he had been there. Classic concept song ahead of its time. Its songs like this that show why he was and always will be the G.O.A.T.
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Latasha. Isnt it clear yet? ;D
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Best Single of the new Milenium
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Best Single of the new Milenium
Why not best single of the whole music history ?
Damn guys this song is aight but nothing spectacular.
"Trouble" still n.1, nobody can fuck with this song right here
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that single is more than spectacular :-*
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In my opinion whats golden is the best single of the year,
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There was better tracks on the 2Pac-promo.. even if they wasn't as commercial sellable as this one.
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that single is more than spectacular :-*
Actually "Und In Dem Scheegebirge " is tighter!
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wow this is pretty dope...yeah its the best single of the year...
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This shit is mind blowing, and further proves Pac was ahead of his time and was only gonna get better had he lived. Both versions of the song are classic, but the acoustic with Nas is absolutly off the hinges. Id go as far to say this is one of his greatest songs ever........2 AMAZING verses from Pac, and an equally amazing verse from Nas. This shit is too ill for words, especially Pac's last verse, where he describes a picture of heaven as if he had been there. Classic concept song ahead of its time. Its songs like this that show why he was and always will be the G.O.A.T.
agree wit everything you said, has the makings of a classic
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well the single is ok, i think better days would be way better for a single
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A testement to how great 2pac is...
7 year old track's are still puttin' muthaphukkkaz in their place.
He is still runnin' thang's like it was 96'.
check ya favorite current rapper's...his name & Idea's come outta their mouth every second.
OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
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Its ok nothing special...To be honest it does nothing for me...
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Agreed. Pac is still the G.O.A.T.
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i think the shit is just fuckin crazy how he is talking about heaven and all the people he is talking about...the content is just fuckin dope. look at all the other rappers out, talking about all kinds of material things. pac is talking about dying, social unrest, friendship...seriously if ur not listening to hip hop for the shit that pac spits then u should reexamine what u are looking for. by far pac's character and the elements he brings to the game are amazing. hip hop can definately be fun, but by far it like any genre is created to inspire, motivate and let other be aware of those around them, thugz mansion equals the point in case.
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i think the shit is just fuckin crazy how he is talking about heaven and all the people he is talking about...the content is just fuckin dope. look at all the other rappers out, talking about all kinds of material things. pac is talking about dying, social unrest, friendship...seriously if ur not listening to hip hop for the shit that pac spits then u should reexamine what u are looking for. by far pac's character and the elements he brings to the game are amazing. hip hop can definately be fun, but by far it like any genre is created to inspire, motivate and let other be aware of those around them, thugz mansion equals the point in case.
PERFECT POST. That's what i'm trying to write from years in this board! That's what i mean when i say that OG rap is still hella better than today's rap. Not because of beats, or because "Snoop was raw back in the days". Rap is born for a reason. For its contests. For a protest. To communicate DIRECTLY and SIMPLY to poor and common people. To express another point of view, the one of poor people. Rappers were creative, poors, repped thugs or poors, repped blacks or minorances. Now rap is just "ENTERTAINMENT". It's fun, show, business. Look at all those rappers (u want names? Ja Rule, Nelly, Fabulous, Ludacriss, Snoop himself, etc..) who are ruling the charts right now. They are selling millions of albums and the singles/videos are EMPTY tracks! With no messages. And they are selling millions! Now please dont reply with a stupid "sales doesnt matter, it's about quality" etc.. cause.. Shade Sheist (for example) can make the deepest tracks he wants (it's just an example), but if just 10,000 guys buys his cd, he's NOBODY and he CANT express something! The message is the one of FAMOUS PEOPLE. It's the message of people who rules the charts. Who sells millions. Cause THEY MAKE HIP-HOP. Not underground rappers. When you judge a movement, you judge the ppl who repp it. And those rappers are not acting good lately. All those empty tracks talking about bitches, dicks, weed, stupid beefs with no reasons like kids, shit aint fresh no more! Damn, is it to hard to understand it? Just check BET and you'll see all the same things. Like Nate said "Every other video, No matter where I go, I see the same hoe".
2Pac is totally different cause he's the only one (THE ONLY ONE) who's selling millions of albums, who's still on top of the game and, like AG correctly said, he's "talking about dying, social unrest, friendship...seriously if ur not listening to hip hop for the shit that pac spits then u should reexamine what u are looking for". Couldnt say it better.
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I cant believe theres actually people fronting on this song :o
If this song aint great, then no song is...........
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Best Single of the new Milenium
and the only song that'a not sample is original
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That acoustic version is tight as hell. I can listen to it for like 2 hours straight. I love it!
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Its a good song but damn..relax. It really isnt that good-barely single quality IMO.
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It's a great song, and I would probably say it's the best single so far, either this song or "One Mic" anyways. And yeah, he was so far ahead of his time, like i've said before he talked about things that no-one would touch back then and only now are they starting to catch on and come out with concepts that he did years ago. It's amazing, but not suprising that he still manages to make such an impact with his music even after all this time, thats a strong reason why he's often labelled the G.O.A.T. in itself.
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Yea Ive heard the snippet, read the lyrics, song sounds dope but yall over reacting lol... yeah its maybe the single of the year but not the BEST SINGLE EVER... anywayz good track
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ya i can't stop listening to both versions. nas's verse is unbelievable and the beats are cool. this is the best song i've heard in a while, just another classic tupac song to add to his long list of classics
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man this board is full of dick riders...if it aint snoop, its em, if not em its pac...this song is wack as fuck...its the same shit from tuwack over and over and over...the last good single released by this guy was off of makaveli...ever since then the material left has been real weak....thats why its UNRELEASED...means it wasnt good enough for release in the first place....
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man this board is full of dick riders...if it aint snoop, its em, if not em its pac...this song is wack as fuck...its the same shit from tuwack over and over and over...the last good single released by this guy was off of makaveli...ever since then the material left has been real weak....thats why its UNRELEASED...means it wasnt good enough for release in the first place....
Someone ban this kid. Im tired of reading all his stupid fucking posts whenever I come here.
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Someone ban this kid. Im tired of reading all his stupid fucking posts whenever I come here.
people only say that shit when theyre mad...obviously ur mad...and if that shit wasnt true u wouldnt be mad...which means...everything i said it true...fuckin buster....
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^^^Actually, no it isnt true, and you have yet to give any logical explanation which proves its true. Everything about that song is on-point. The beats, the lyrics, everything.
And how the fuck you gonna say Pac aint made any good songs since Makaveli?
Starin Through My Rear View
Lost Souls
Hellrazor
Do 4 Love
Made Niggaz
Smile
When Thugz Cry
Ballad Of A Dead Soulja
I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto
God Bless The Dead
Life's So Hard
^^^all of these are classics, and guess what? All of them came out AFTER Makaveli, so there goes your theory about Pac not having any good songs since that album: right down the drain. And I didnt even name all of them, just a few.
And just because a song is unreleased doesnt mean its wack. That has to be the most illogical, stupid thing ive read in a while.........
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DONT FORGET Letter 2 My Unborn!!! that track is amazin!
Thug Mansion iz very very ill , think about it how fuckern smart is pac man, letter 2 my unborn and thug mansion are both similar , its like he knew he would be dead when they were released.
Better Dayz Ahead Cant waiT! :o :o :o :o
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^^^Actually, no it isnt true, and you have yet to give any logical explanation which proves its true. Everything about that song is on-point. The beats, the lyrics, everything.
And how the fuck you gonna say Pac aint made any good songs since Makaveli?
Starin Through My Rear View
Lost Souls
Hellrazor
Do 4 Love
Made Niggaz
Smile
When Thugz Cry
Ballad Of A Dead Soulja
I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto
God Bless The Dead
Life's So Hard
^^^all of these are classics, and guess what? All of them came out AFTER Makaveli, so there goes your theory about Pac not having any good songs since that album: right down the drain. And I didnt even name all of them, just a few.
And just because a song is unreleased doesnt mean its wack. That has to be the most illogical, stupid thing ive read in a while.........
man if it was so damn classic why didnt they release it?...thats why the song is wack...all those songs are classic?...to u theyre classic...i cant stand not near one of em...and to tell u the truth i cant stand much of tuwack either...all this tupac is the goat bullshit needs to stop...nobody ever praised tupac until he died....oh and hellrazor...i know u cant stand me...but its only cuz im the only person who will speak on these wack ass rappers u OBSESS over....
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^^^Actually, no it isnt true, and you have yet to give any logical explanation which proves its true. Everything about that song is on-point. The beats, the lyrics, everything.
And how the fuck you gonna say Pac aint made any good songs since Makaveli?
Starin Through My Rear View
Lost Souls
Hellrazor
Do 4 Love
Made Niggaz
Smile
When Thugz Cry
Ballad Of A Dead Soulja
I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto
God Bless The Dead
Life's So Hard
^^^all of these are classics, and guess what? All of them came out AFTER Makaveli, so there goes your theory about Pac not having any good songs since that album: right down the drain. And I didnt even name all of them, just a few.
And just because a song is unreleased doesnt mean its wack. That has to be the most illogical, stupid thing ive read in a while.........
man if it was so damn classic why didnt they release it?...thats why the song is wack...all those songs are classic?...to u theyre classic...i cant stand not near one of em...and to tell u the truth i cant stand much of tuwack either...all this tupac is the goat bullshit needs to stop...nobody ever praised tupac until he died....oh and hellrazor...i know u cant stand me...but its only cuz im the only person who will speak on these wack ass rappers u OBSESS over....
You're such a fuckin herb. Your logic is completely warped. Then again, you think E-40 is the greatest MC ever, so its impossible for me to be mad at you. I just wont take any of your bullshit opinions seriously.
Nobody ever phraised Tupac until he died?? Yea, I guess thats why All Eyez On Me sold 7 million BEFORE Pac's death, and people were already calling him one of the greatest ever. I was around to see all that shit go down homie, back in 96'.
And I obsesses over wack ass rappers?? No, YOU obsesses over wack ass rappers. Some of my fav rappers [besides Pac] are Nas, the Wu Tang Clan, Scarface, Redman, Outkast, Tribe Called Quest, Bone, Kool G Rap, etc etc, all of which shit all over E-40......ive seen your top 10 list of fav rappers/albums, and its 90% garbage compared to the albums I [and all the other REAL hip hop heads] consider classic.
I could care less about what you speak on. I speak my mind too, just as I did in this post. But the difference is, Im objective about it and dont say stupid shit like "In A Major Way" is the greatest album ever made.......you're such a joke. Keep posting, so I can keep herbing you.
Pac will be forever superior to all your fav artists, and deep down, you KNOW im right......whether you care to admit it or not. E-40 might be your fav rapper, but all the real hip hop heads know Pac easily shits all over him.
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You're such a fuckin herb. Your logic is completely warped. Then again, you think E-40 is the greatest MC ever, so its impossible for me to be mad at you. I just wont take any of your bullshit opinions seriously.
Nobody ever phraised Tupac until he died?? Yea, I guess thats why All Eyez On Me sold 7 million BEFORE Pac's death, and people were already calling him one of the greatest ever. I was around to see all that shit go down homie, back in 96'.
And I obsesses over wack ass rappers?? No, YOU obsesses over wack ass rappers. Some of my fav rappers [besides Pac] are Nas, the Wu Tang Clan, Scarface, Redman, Outkast, Tribe Called Quest, Bone, Kool G Rap, etc etc, all of which shit all over E-40......ive seen your top 10 list of fav rappers/albums, and its 90% garbage compared to the albums I [and all the other REAL hip hop heads] consider classic.
I could care less about what you speak on. I speak my mind too, just as I did in this post. But the difference is, Im objective about it and dont say stupid shit like "In A Major Way" is the greatest album ever made.......you're such a joke. Keep posting, so I can keep herbing you.
Pac will be forever superior to all your fav artists, and deep down, you KNOW im right......whether you care to admit it or not. E-40 might be your fav rapper, but all the real hip hop heads know Pac easily shits all over him.
WOW!!! im a herb...man i am so hurt...please stop...please...lol...idiot...hey jackass quote where i said E-40 was my favorite EMCEE...quote it jackass...i said he was my favorite rapper...oh n get over the real hip hop bullshit...ill take u down memory lane of "real" hip hop...none of ur favorite rappers are fuckin with real emcees like Aceyalone, Mikah 9, Busdriva, Tech N9ne, Rifleman, Abstract Rude and so on...so get over it bitch...dont even try to tell me about "real" hip hop...just cuz a muthafucka likes E-40 he doesnt know about hip hop?...that had to be the dumbest comment next to the similar one someone made about me not knowin about hip hop cuz i like Master P...its called havin a broad horizon...i like everything...ur the kinda bitch that only likes something if u consider it real....muthafucka i like shit from Alaska, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Cali, Oregon...i can go on...it can be gangster shit...hip hop shit...whatever man...but if u think i dont know about hip hop then ur mistaken...u r a certified dickrider...for many reasons...one in particular...i dont like ur favorite artist so u try to sand bag me by sayin i dont know about hip hop...thats just lame....u really need to get off of tupacs dick...hes dead....6 years already...let him rest...he dont need u to be slobbin all over his dead carcus like u r....and "Ina Major Way" is a classic album...if u dont feel so...them im sorry...thats ur loss....to me E-40 meant more to the west coast than tuwack ever did....so lets see...u like nas...well we already know he rides with murder inc...so thats enough said about that moron...kool g rap...i think hes a great emcee...one of the only people out that is in the running for goat....outkast...theyre done with...that song for the scooby soundtrack did it...they need to take the goodie mob route and split...aint nothin good came from them since their first album...tribe called quest...when was their last album?....scarface...since the fix was so east coast...i see why u like it....hes done in my book....wutang....yea theyre last few albums were great ::)...bone...yea this latest album is a masterpiece!!!! ::)...and redman...ive liked him since whut..thee album...so i got nothin but praise for him....now u say i like wack rappers...the rappers i like maybe wack lyrically but make great music...the emcees i like are far superior than the emcees u have listed....Ras Kass, Crooked I, Tech N9ne, Aceyalone, Sly Boogie, Pharoahe Monch, Mad Skillz, Shabaam Sahdeeq, Talib Kweli, KRS-One, Paul Wall, Chamillion, Planet Asia, Rasco(not roscoe tho hes tight too)....so um...mister REAL HIP HOP...i think u have been proven wrong...know who ur speakin on before u speak...faggot
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^^^blah blah blah blah blah..........trust me, I know who im speaking to: an idiot.
And "In A Major Way" is a classic album?? ROFLMAO. Ive never heard ANYONE call that album a classic. You know why?? Because it isnt. Its not even close to being a classic. Now, albums like Illmatic, 36 Chambers, All Eyez On Me, The Chronic, ATLiens, E.1999 Eternal, Redman's first two joints, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Ready To Die, The Infamous, Live And Let Die, and Midnight Marauders are classic albums. All of those albums [among others] define what a classic hip hop album is.
And E-40 had more influence on the west than Pac did?? Put the crack pipe down already. All Eyez On Me is 1000000 times more influential than all of E-40's albums COMBINED.
Get your head out of your ass. Id set you straight some more, but I cant be bothered to argue with a child like you. Its like taking candy from a baby.
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yeah,single of the year!
both version are tight!