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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: GEED-UP-HUSTLER on November 06, 2002, 08:31:14 AM
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no one from the label even told him, that's some cold shit. He also says that "XXplosive was supposed to be for King T! That would have been bangin!
We sit down for Part 1 with former Aftermath Artist Hittman and speak on his Last Dayz at Aftermath Records, The Up In Smoke Tour, his future, and much more...
ThaFormula.com - When did you start to feel that your album wasn't gonna drop?
Hittman - Shit I always thought it was gonna happen. Niggaz would have meetings. We would try to regroup...the way I found out, uh, I found out from my homegirl Mimi who's singin' on the DJ Quik and Dre song "Put It On Me." Anyway she called me and was like, "Yo did you hear you got dropped? Did you hear anything about you getting dropped?" and I'm laughin'. I mean, I'm supposed to go to the studio on Monday, "what you talkin' about?" She told me "look just check into that shit," so I was like cool. I'm callin' the label and I can't get in contact with nobody like for 3 days and I finally get in contact with this cat at the label who tells me, "yeah you got dropped, Jimmy dropped you basically." I'm thinkin' "damn how the fuck my homegirl know my business before me?" It's just the principal of that shit.
ThaFormula.com - So you got no phone calls or nothin'?
Hittman - Nope, cause that whole week I was supposed to record at the studio, but every time I go, niggaz was like "yo, we waitin' for the engineer." So I'm thinkin' okay, but this is a studio and there is always an engineer here, what the fuck? My attention span is short. When I'm ready to spit some shit I'm ready. I don't wanna be sittin' around with niggaz holdin' their balls playin' video games. I don't wanna do it. Hour is up I'm out and that whole week shit didn't go down, so next thing I hear I get a phone call on Sunday sayin' "nigga I heard you got dropped, check into it," and from there I'm just like wow!
ThaFormula.com - So it's not a situation at Aftermath where you can just walk in and say what's up to Dre and speak to him about it?
Hittman - Whenever I talked to Dre shit went correct, but when I talked to other muthafuckaz that he would hire it would be like "yo talk to me cause Dre got a lot of shit to do." Whenever I talked to them that shit would go haywire. It's a known fact that when you want you're shit to go right, talk to Dre cause he clears all that shit out.
ThaFormula.com - So it was Jimmy Iovine who dropped you?
Hittman - Basically, cause Dre had warned me right before we went on tour. He said "yo Hit, Jimmy only hears a couple of songs that he likes," and I'm thinkin' shit then we need to go in the studio and knock some shit out then. Me, Dre and Mel, but it never really happened. From the time "2001" came out the shit was just a whirlwind. Like my album not coming out was a casualty of Dre's success, because by the time he became the man you know everybody wanted him, so my shit kinda got pushed to the side and forgotten about. Plus I was going through a lot of shit. Early 2000 my grandmother passed away and that shit kind of took me out of my shit mentally for like a month, but I was ready to get back. February of 2000 Eminem is trying to finish up "The Marshall Mathers LP." March of 2000 niggaz are starting to plot out the show. These niggaz are starting to do appearances and award shows and shit like that. We go on tour in June and that's like 3 months. Get back home and he's got to mix down Xzibit's shit "The Restless LP," Snoop Dogg's shit, so you know there was never time for my album.
ThaFormula.com - So what was the purpose of doing a part of "The Last Dayz" track at the end of the "Forgot About Dre" video and saying "Hittman in 2000?"
Hittman - I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine.
ThaFormula.com - I mean was Iovine down with that at the time?
Hittman - Oh yeah, at that point my name was on fire. I remember NWA recorded something at the Farm Club and Eminem was on there too. So soon as Eminem gets on stage they thought DJ Hitt was me, so niggaz was like Hittman! Hittman! So Jimmy was like "yo, say something about Hittman." At that point my name was on fire but shit, I was only like 4 songs into my album. But I was like "yo drop this shit as a white label or just let the DJ's have it. Drop Akrite as a video." I had another song called "Hot Damn" for the summer and that shit would have bought time, but since we went on tour, everybody from Aftermath went too, it wasn't one soul left at home. Because I suggested you know, let me do the West Coast half of the tour and come back home and finish my album so that when you all get back, shit Dre only got to do 5 more songs and we a done deal. But it didn't work out that way. I mean we had a studio bus on tour but I couldn't get down in that shit to be honest with you. I mean we could do beats there, but it was just too much going on for me to really concentrate and record, because I felt like my album had to be, uh, I had to dominate on this album and I just didn't wanna write shit for the sake of, "here I got some songs." I had to put my heart and soul into it and on the road is wasn't happenin'. Niggaz would come up with beat concepts or whatever but as far as recording that shit wasn't going down. The bus broke down a couple of times. It was all kinds of technical shit with it to.
ThaFormula.com - You would think that loyalty would have been shown to you seeing that your were down with the team when nothin' was really poppin?
Hittman - I would think that as a rookie, but at this point I don't even know what loyalty means in the industry.
ThaFormula.com - It amazes me because you were on almost every song on "2001."
Hittman - Oh believe me, it's been hardest for me to swallow that shit. Even trying to go to other labels and shit. Muthafuckaz be lookin' at me like "ok you did that when? In '99? What are you doing now? I'm like, "you signin' unproven muthafuckas? At least you seen what I did and that's just a preview!" So it's been the hardest for me to deal with that reality.
ThaFormula.com - Do you feel that you got paid well for the work you put in on "2001?"
Hittman - I got paid probably better then what everybody got paid on the first "Chronic." That I can say. Like my publishing, I had to split with my production company. I got my writers share and that's about it, but the shit is what? 8 million, almost at diamond, so that shit was cool and I'm not angry about that. There's some things I didn't know where I could have fought for more money, but I just charge it to the game and get it on the back end from this new project.
ThaFormula.com - Is the Aftermath Staff that's there now the same as the one that was there when you first joined the team?
Hittman - It probably changed because when I first came to Aftermath by December of '98 that whole first crew was out of there. The sole survivors from the first time I came there was me, Eminem, and Mel Man. Everybody else was gone. Eve, Last Emperor, and a whole crew of muthfuckas weren't there no more. So I could imagine that shit is slightly different.
ThaFormula.com - Does Aftermath even have an office?
Hittman - As far as I know yeah. They probably got a cubicle or a little office up at the spot in Santa Monica.
ThaFormula.com - It's funny to me Hit because your talkin' to me like you have no idea what was going on with Aftemath?
Hittman - Man, I didn't have a fucking clue sometimes. Muthafuckas would say one thing and mean something else and that's the kind of shit that would bother me. Like on "The Watcher Remix" with Rakim. I did just a little bridge part you know what I'm sayin', and that's what I thought the team was you know? In 2001 just me, Rakim, and Dre. I think we would have killed shit. Ra is a legend, Dre is a fuckin' legend, and here comes the new nigga.
ThaFormula.com - One of the reasons why I liked your style was because you reminded me a lot of a young King Tee?
Hittman - Yeah he was the fuckin' man. That's another thing. Had his album come out the West Coast would be different right now. He would have set my album up perfect cause we do sound similar and he's a Compton nigga, and I'm a West Side nigga.
ThaFormula.com - Was he still there when you got there?
Hittman - He was on his way out I think. I think I seen him a couple of times and then I didn't see him no more, but I happened to hear this cat I know named Major. He's got a song called "Concrete Nigga" and shit. Big up to him. He was fuckin' with King Tee at the time and "Xplosive" was really this song called "The Future" and man that shit was ridiculous man. That was just one song I heard and I was like aww man!
ThaFormula.com - So your tellin' me the "Explosive" beat from "2001" was really supposed to be a King Tee track?
Hittman - Yeah the "Xplosive" beat was really for King Tee at first. This was back in '98 and shit and that shit was very hot. It was dope shit I can't even describe it. I mean I got at least 7 songs that I recorded with Dre that didn't make "2001." It's just countless material man. That nigga really don't even gotta do no more music to be honest with you.
ThaFormula.com - A lot of people have been wondering if the beats that Dre is doing now for recent artists are leftover "2001" beats? Are they?
Check back with us soon for Part 2 of this Formula World Exclusive with Big Hitt!!
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dope interview. i feel sorry for Hitt, he got fucked
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whooooooaaaaaa... :o
dope interview.. props dogg!! 8)
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sometimes i really get angry at dre >:(
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Man. It's becoming more and more obvious that Dre was part of the problem at deathrow, and its' starting to catch up to him again. Lesse heah
the D.O.C.
The Lady of Rage
Nate Dogg
Kurupt
Daz Dillinger
RBX
The Doggfather Himself
King T
Hittman
EVE
How many other artists have recorded cd's with a dr. dre ran company that never came out? All these people had problems gettin cd's released with dre in charge.
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Man. It's becoming more and more obvious that Dre was part of the problem at deathrow, and its' starting to catch up to him again. Lesse heah
the D.O.C.
The Lady of Rage
Nate Dogg
Kurupt
Daz Dillinger
RBX
The Doggfather Himself
King T
Hittman
EVE
How many other artists have recorded cd's with a dr. dre ran company that never came out? All these people had problems gettin cd's released with dre in charge.
so true.
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Dre is a horrible buisness man. This guy should NOT have a label. Watch aftermath die in 3 years. Unless Dre gets another big act like Eminem. He cant live off hype forever. Rakim might never drop and eminem will go indipendent.
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uuh!
When I first saw this shit I was like what a fuckin bitch move of Dre!
but after reading all this shit I think it's obvies it wasn't Dre's fault at all.
He shoulda tried more to help Hit n shit but it wasn't his decision.
Why would he promote Hitt that much with 2001 and drop him then.
Dre WANTED him to be the new star but the shit was fucked at all cuz so many shit at the same time like Hitt said.
And Hitts still paying respect to Dre I highly doubt he would if it was Dre that got the things fucked up as they are...
Plus
WHY would Dre make shit fucked up and not release albums of very talented artitst he promoted that much and whose albums would also get himself money..?
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I'm pretty sure there is a whole different side to this story. But i find it amuzing that a certain someone who posts here always talks about loyalty and family in the Aftermath Camp. I know we haven't heard the whole story, but if it was about loyalty and family, Dre and everbody at Aftermath would've stood up for him. If those tracks that were bootlegged were on his album, i would've bought it.
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Hittman - Whenever I talked to Dre shit went correct, but when I talked to other muthafuckaz that he would hire it would be like "yo talk to me cause Dre got a lot of shit to do." Whenever I talked to them that shit would go haywire. It's a known fact that when you want you're shit to go right, talk to Dre cause he clears all that shit out.
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If these shit is true, that means that Jimmy Runs Aftermath ant NOT Dre...Dre is a puppet like always..same shit at DeathRow...
Peace
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yeah kinda.
Interscope did it behind Dre's back kinda thing... Dre gotta get his shit in order... altho who wouldnt sign with Dre even with this risk? coz ya know what he can do if you the opportunity :/
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uuh!
When I first saw this shit I was like what a fuckin bitch move of Dre!
but after reading all this shit I think it's obvies it wasn't Dre's fault at all.
He shoulda tried more to help Hit n shit but it wasn't his decision.
Why would he promote Hitt that much with 2001 and drop him then.
Dre WANTED him to be the new star but the shit was fucked at all cuz so many shit at the same time like Hitt said.
And Hitts still paying respect to Dre I highly doubt he would if it was Dre that got the things fucked up as they are...
Plus
WHY would Dre make shit fucked up and not release albums of very talented artitst he promoted that much and whose albums would also get himself money..?
This is a very good point.. and Im glad to see someone bring out a different perspective to all of this. I agree with King Tauma in that.. Dre does have a track record for pulling out on Westcoast artists.. and IMO he should fight for the artists that he does believe in like HITT or King T. But on the other hand Im feelin what Ho Hopper said about all of this not being totally Dres fault.. He does have a distributor to answer too.
But my beef is that Dre doesnt seem to have the final when it comes to his artists. Like most of these so called labels out there.. They are just over glorified IMPRINT A&R companies that have to answer to the distributor. (unlike a joint venture.. example Master P, P-Ditty) If you ask me.. thats the problem. Dre has never had complete creative control and it piss's me off. If Dres business isnt setup so that he has the creative control.. then he should go Indy.
When you compare Dres work with Master P's.. Dre's music is WWWWWAAAAAAAy better but he has less control over what gets released. How the hell did MP release all them albums in 98? He did it cuz his business was right.. and he had creative control. Priority couldnt stop him due to the contract they had with No Limit.
Dre needs to setup a TRUE joint venture or go Indy. Ok.. Im done ranting and raving..
Axle
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Ya, hard to believe Aftermath is ran as shitty as it is............alo hard to believe Dre just kinda doesnt say anything when his artists get dropped..........
THats crazy that Xxplosive was a beat from 98, that woulda been crazy for king tee.......i wonder what all dre has lying around, like unreleased songs with beats that we;ve heard.....
Too bad for Hittman, if Dre woulda given him some time, he coulda been straight.......come to think of it, i haven't heard his unreleased cd even, i remember i didnt have internet when that got released. Axle, would you be able to hook me up man? I would appreciate it, holla back if you got the hook up........peace
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Dope article..........
But ya'll are fuckin CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!
Overseer said Interscope did something behind Dre's back? Are you kidding me? YOOOOOO...... Dre knows exactly what the fuck is going on. If he wants an album to drop, it drops. If he thinks it's week and won't even sell a million, then it doesn't drop.
Nobody is going to question Dre's musical taste. Not Jimmy Iovine, not anybody. How can you argue with the greatest producer of all time? Simple as this, Hittman and King Tee didn't drop because Dre didn't think they would sell a million records, PERIOD. Dre dropped King Tee's lead single and it didn't get played. Dre put Hittman at the end of Eminem's video and the mass majority didn't care.
Look, I love King Tee's album and Hitman's bootleg. But that is because we are West Coast fanatics. Not everyone is like us.
Hittman is lying to himself!!!!! Hittman got dropped from Aftermath because Dre didn't care to work with him anymore, period, pointblank!
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Hmm that was a very interesting read. Thanks for the interview.
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I thought Dr Dre sold Aftermath to Interscope a few years ago ?
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It's all Jimmy Iovine...he is the ultimate power. Dre just makes the music. Jimmy doesn't want another "Aftermath," "Firm" / King Tee mess like before...cause he saw Hittman as another King Tee, and he didn't want that.
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Nice interview. I think hittman summed it up when he said From the time "2001" came out the shit was just a whirlwind.
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Please stop SHITTIN on Dre. I think both sides made mistakes ... That's business. Dre has no 100% control!
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I thought Dr Dre sold Aftermath to Interscope a few years ago ?
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Can dre take decisions about his roster without iovine's judgement ?
Dre is not the boss ::)
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shit fo real it doesn't seem like he's the boss that's fucked up.
And he sold 30% of Aftermath last year so now they own 80% and in the end they'll always can kade decisions even if Dre doesn't want it.
I should go indi like peeps said befo and run this shit by his own.
Otherwise Hitt probably won't be the last to get fucked like this...
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I think Truth Hurts is the next one - I'm not sure we'll ever hear a second album from her on Aftermath/Interscope.
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basically interscope owns more than 51% of the company which means they own/run it, jus dre gets money off the artists on his label for havin a part in aftermath to n he still owns sum of it
plus the hitt interview was wack, a nice read but we read this loadsa time, i mean dre jus seems scared to tell his homies that he dont wanna release there album so he gets jimmy to do it, or dre wont stick up for his homies n tell jimmy u release the shit, but noone really knows fo sure, i mean not even hitt by the sounds off it!
notice how they change HITTMAN TO HIT MAN?
the interview on part 2 hopefully will tell about hittman more like whats his up 2 n it might tell us all about who his signed up with/final draft of signing up with ya never know, but ppl need to know about whats up with hitt
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plus the hitt interview was wack, a nice read but we read this loadsa time
How is it wack, but a good read? I don't remember any interview with Hittman where he has spoke about him being dropped so how have we read this lods of times. I'd like to read the interview if theres some where he's talking about, I love all the info.
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How is it wack, but a good read? I don't remember any interview with Hittman where he has spoke about him being dropped so how have we read this lods of times. I'd like to read the interview if theres some where he's talking about, I love all the info.
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stopped by to drop my last post of the year and i saw this topic so i wanted to throw in my 2 cents. first up, there is two sides to every story. secondly, dre and hit parted ways in a very positive way. things along the way maybe should have been handled better, but no one is at more fault than the other. the fact is that the music business sucks. hit is one of thousands of artists who get dropped or never truly make it. for every artist who makes it two thousand don't. i am not Dre and I am not Brian so i really can't say exactly what went down. however, hit may have heard on the street he got dropped but those rumours were flying around for a long time. the fact is that he WAS personally told when he was officially dropped from Aftermath. yeah, maybe dre should have pushed harder for hittman to stay on board, but Hitt also has to take some of the blame too. and Brian knows this and knows where he was to blame even if he doesn't say it. no one wants to take personal responsibility anymore. everyone always wants to blame someone else. at the same time Hitt did get a raw deal, bit dre also did the right thing in letting him go with no strings attached. dre could have blackmailed him and prevented him from even talking to another label, let alone release an album on another label. but dre didn't. dre paid Hitt properly for his work on 2001. dre had nothing to do with Hitt's publishing company. dre let Hitt go with free reign to sign another deal. unfortunaltly, no other label wants Hitt either at this point. i love Hitt as an artist and truly hopes he finds a deal somewhere. the fact is that it just didn't work out. dre and Hitt are still on good terms and there is a great mutual respect between the two.
I also want to clear a few things up in regards to Dre's power when it comes to Aftermath records. The reason Dre left Death Row was that he had NO CONTROL there. suge ran shit in all repects except when it came to making records. dre did the music, suge did most everything else. Suge stole all the publishing from all the artists. suge stopped the albums from coming out. dre got his publishing cause Suge knew death row would not suceed without Dre. But Dre could do nothing about getting the other artists paid correctly. thats why none of the former inmates ever blamed dre for not getting paid. only RBX spoke out but once he found out the truth he got back with dre again. dre left death row to get control. he was officially part owner of D.R. Even though Suge was the one stealing from the artists and creating the violent work environment, dre still had to accept part of the responsibility. it tore dre apart that snoop and everyone wasn't getting paid but there was nothing he could do. so he left to start AFtermath and control his own label and run business correctly. Dre was going to make sure his artists got good deals and recieved their correct publishing. and if he dropped an artist he would let them go clean. when suge let someone go from death row he did the opposite. Dre should have left with about 60 million dollars. but to leave he had to forfeit about half that. when everyone from snoop to nate to sam sneed, to soopafly to rbx to rage left death row suge would make it impossible to leave without big problems or a large loss of money. they would either have to give up money or make some other sacrifice to leave. for example when it came to sam sneed or soopafly suge refused to let him out of his contract so he couldn't do any work for any other artist or label. they were vitrually stranded on death row - con't
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So what is Dre's role in Aftermath Records? Aftermath has always been partly owned by Interscope. Jimmy gave Dre total creative freedom and control, as well as upfront money and contracts. There was a point where Dre's original contract came up and he had a chance to be a free agent. however, his loyalty to Jimmy for giving the original Chronic and Death Row a chance when no one else would kept him with Intercope. So a new deal was arraigned. LAst year Dre sold all but 20% of Aftermath to Interscope for a large 8 figure deal. Dre still controls the music and the artists, but Interscope still has the final word on everything. Thats the way most independent labels work. Now Em's Shady Records has merged with Dre's Aftermath under the Interscope label. Interscope has the final say, pays for most of the promotion and marketing, the manufacturing and distribution etc. In Hitt's situation Dre fought for a long time to keep Hitt on Aftermath. Jimmy got discouraged when Hitt's part on the Forgot about Dre video got cut out. he also saw that the media, music executives and a lot of fans (except us on the label and you die hard fans) didn't really feel Hitt. The reality was that Hittman would be a hard sell and most likely would fail. Thats the sad truth. that being said i felt and Dre felt for a long time that it was still worth taking a chance. But as time went along certain things occured, Hitt made some mistakes, dre didn't schedule Hitt as much as he maybe should have and Hitt was ultimately dropped. Ultimately Dre decided that other projects like Rakim should take precedence over Hitt. Dre decided it would only be fair to let Hitt go so he could try to find his own deal. If he did Dre would help him out with a few tracks. So in the end Dre and Jimmy agreed to drop Hitt from Aftermath. It's unfortunate and sad, but thats just the way the music business goes.
Dre does have to answer to Jimmy. But Jimmy is a very successful former record producer and he made Interscope one the of the top labels in the world. So dre respects Jimmy and listens to what he has to say. Jimmy was the one who rejected Dre and Em's finished version of the MMLP. he made them go back and do more songs. so dre and em hit the studio and came up with two tracks which jimmy okayed and released. Those 2 tracks were The Way I am and The Real Slim Shady. AT the same time Jimmy comes to Dre for advice and input on almost everything that goes on at Interscope. Jimmy calls Dre THE best producer in the history of all of music, so you know jimmy respects dre. Jimmy came to Dre at every stage of putting Em's 8 Mile Movie together. Dre was basically a non credited producer of that movie. he rejected a lot of the ideas that got cut out of the moive and okayed a lot of the ideas that made the movie. Jimmy lets Dre decide what artists dre signs to Aftermath. Jimmy lets Dre have total 100% control of the music Aftermath releases. Jimmy has to give the final OK before an album goes to get manufactured and released, but Dre usually gets his way.
So dre and jimmy work together in a positive way. no, dre is not Jimmys puppet. Jimmy takes dre's advice almost as much as dre takes Jimmy's advice.
Dre and Em have joined forces and will make SHady/Aftermath one of the most powerful labels in the world - look at the roster - Dre, Em, Rakim, Ice Cube, 50 Cent, etc. No two artists have sold more records together than Dre and em the last few years. Shady/Afternath have sold more the 50 million albums world wide since the release of the Slim Shady Lp. and by the way Murder inc and bad boy would have to more than triple their sales in the same time period to beat that.
Due to time spent on this thread I can't post what I was going to tonight. I will sometime in the next few days. peace.
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So what is Dre's role in Aftermath Records? Aftermath has always been partly owned by Interscope. Jimmy gave Dre total creative freedom and control, as well as upfront money and contracts. There was a point where Dre's original contract came up and he had a chance to be a free agent. however, his loyalty to Jimmy for giving the original Chronic and Death Row a chance when no one else would kept him with Intercope. So a new deal was arraigned. LAst year Dre sold all but 20% of Aftermath to Interscope for a large 8 figure deal. Dre still controls the music and the artists, but Interscope still has the final word on everything. Thats the way most independent labels work. Now Em's Shady Records has merged with Dre's Aftermath under the Interscope label. Interscope has the final say, pays for most of the promotion and marketing, the manufacturing and distribution etc. In Hitt's situation Dre fought for a long time to keep Hitt on Aftermath. Jimmy got discouraged when Hitt's part on the Forgot about Dre video got cut out. he also saw that the media, music executives and a lot of fans (except us on the label and you die hard fans) didn't really feel Hitt. The reality was that Hittman would be a hard sell and most likely would fail. Thats the sad truth. that being said i felt and Dre felt for a long time that it was still worth taking a chance. But as time went along certain things occured, Hitt made some mistakes, dre didn't schedule Hitt as much as he maybe should have and Hitt was ultimately dropped. Ultimately Dre decided that other projects like Rakim should take precedence over Hitt. Dre decided it would only be fair to let Hitt go so he could try to find his own deal. If he did Dre would help him out with a few tracks. So in the end Dre and Jimmy agreed to drop Hitt from Aftermath. It's unfortunate and sad, but thats just the way the music business goes.
Dre does have to answer to Jimmy. But Jimmy is a very successful former record producer and he made Interscope one the of the top labels in the world. So dre respects Jimmy and listens to what he has to say. Jimmy was the one who rejected Dre and Em's finished version of the MMLP. he made them go back and do more songs. so dre and em hit the studio and came up with two tracks which jimmy okayed and released. Those 2 tracks were The Way I am and The Real Slim Shady. AT the same time Jimmy comes to Dre for advice and input on almost everything that goes on at Interscope. Jimmy calls Dre THE best producer in the history of all of music, so you know jimmy respects dre. Jimmy came to Dre at every stage of putting Em's 8 Mile Movie together. Dre was basically a non credited producer of that movie. he rejected a lot of the ideas that got cut out of the moive and okayed a lot of the ideas that made the movie. Jimmy lets Dre decide what artists dre signs to Aftermath. Jimmy lets Dre have total 100% control of the music Aftermath releases. Jimmy has to give the final OK before an album goes to get manufactured and released, but Dre usually gets his way.
So dre and jimmy work together in a positive way. no, dre is not Jimmys puppet. Jimmy takes dre's advice almost as much as dre takes Jimmy's advice.
Dre and Em have joined forces and will make SHady/Aftermath one of the most powerful labels in the world - look at the roster - Dre, Em, Rakim, Ice Cube, 50 Cent, etc. No two artists have sold more records together than Dre and em the last few years. Shady/Afternath have sold more the 50 million albums world wide since the release of the Slim Shady Lp. and by the way Murder inc and bad boy would have to more than triple their sales in the same time period to beat that.
Due to time spent on this thread I can't post what I was going to tonight. I will sometime in the next few days. peace.
Real shiit.
LoL @ all the people dissing Dre because Jimmy sacked Hitt.
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Well, thanks for givin' us more info on it, but it gets old when every project dre has anything to do with has like a 15% change of coming out. I'm sure Suge held back a lot of the album releases on deathrow, but now you've got Jimmy holdin the same stuff back on interscope? That's pissy when you've got artists sitting around for what, 8-9 years now in King T's case (which I'm sure is a lot of his fault) without an album dropping.
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To me it seems kind of obvious that hittman was arrogant & lazy check that shit he was in the studio but he wasn't waitng around for an engineer & they had a studio bus on the Up In Smoke Tour but he wasn't feelin that shit. Hello you are working with Dre, Em & Rakim do you truly realise the oppurtunity you had Hitt???? Your time should have been spent between the studio, writing songs and promoting yourself get on Radio Tv etc
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It's all Jimmy Iovine...he is the ultimate power. Dre just makes the music. Jimmy doesn't want another "Aftermath," "Firm" / King Tee mess like before...cause he saw Hittman as another King Tee, and he didn't want that.
YO..... You are crazy man..... Nothing happens at Aftermath without Dre's approval. If Dre wants an album to drop, it drops. Jimmy Iovine has no reason to question Dre. How can you question a man who has been a part of some of the greatest records and hip-hop labels of all time. You can't. Dre owns the business. He owns the creative end of the business. Interscope just helps him when he asks for help, and picks up there percentage of the money. PERIOD. That's how it is. Dre dropped Hittman. And Jimmy is cool so he's going to take some of the heat off Dre. But if Dre still wanted Hitt, he'd be there, no doubt!!!!!!
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Shady/Afternath have sold more the 50 million albums world wide since the release of the Slim Shady Lp. and by the way Murder inc and bad boy would have to more than triple their sales in the same time period to beat that.
GOD DAMN 50 mls! :o :o :o
Rich motherfuckers ;)
Thanks for the infos MellowMan!
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It was a good split 4 both!!!!!
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YO..... You are crazy man..... Nothing happens at Aftermath without Dre's approval. If Dre wants an album to drop, it drops. Jimmy Iovine has no reason to question Dre. How can you question a man who has been a part of some of the greatest records and hip-hop labels of all time. You can't. Dre owns the business. He owns the creative end of the business. Interscope just helps him when he asks for help, and picks up there percentage of the money. PERIOD. That's how it is. Dre dropped Hittman. And Jimmy is cool so he's going to take some of the heat off Dre. But if Dre still wanted Hitt, he'd be there, no doubt!!!!!!
Actually there is a guy called Mellowman that works for Aftermath and 3 posts befor urs he just explained how the shit's going down...
So my advice is... have a good read
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After reading the interview I knew people would come at Dre like it was ultimately his fault. Seriously though, as much as I love the stuff i've heard from Hitt so far I doubt he would ever blow up the way Dre probably hoped he would, and at the end of the day it seems to me like Dre helped him all he could, he gave him that oppertunity to shine on "2001", he didn't have to do that, he could easily of found someone else or put more Eminem or Knoc on the tracks. To me though it doesn't seem like Hitt holds much against Dre, I believe Mellowman when he says their still on good terms. I'm sure we all wish that Dre and Hitt had done more together but we don't know exactly what went on behind the scenes so it's pointless for us to point fingers. I just wish Hitt the best, i'm looking forward to hearing more from him in the future, i'm sure he'll get another break sometime soon.
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Thanks Mellow, I appreciate it.
I really enjoyed your part about Shady & Aftermath as one label. Now that they are merged, this just makes them a strong label. Sort of like Island/Def Jam.
No one can fuck with them now, cept maybe for Def Jam...
Dre
Eminem
Rakim
Ice Cube
50 Cent
Truth
Mel-Man
Brooklyn
Shaunta
Joe Beast
Obie Trice
D-12
Focus
That is a fucking sick lineup.
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After reading the interview I knew people would come at Dre like it was ultimately his fault. Seriously though, as much as I love the stuff i've heard from Hitt so far I doubt he would ever blow up the way Dre probably hoped he would, and at the end of the day it seems to me like Dre helped him all he could, he gave him that oppertunity to shine on "2001", he didn't have to do that, he could easily of found someone else or put more Eminem or Knoc on the tracks. To me though it doesn't seem like Hitt holds much against Dre, I believe Mellowman when he says their still on good terms. I'm sure we all wish that Dre and Hitt had done more together but we don't know exactly what went on behind the scenes so it's pointless for us to point fingers. I just wish Hitt the best, i'm looking forward to hearing more from him in the future, i'm sure he'll get another break sometime soon.
They are on good terms because Hittman is in denial. He doesn't want to believe the truth. The truth was that Dre had no use for him anymore, didn't want to keep paying him. So he had Jimmy do his dirty work. Peace.