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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lunatic on October 31, 2009, 12:44:49 AM
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This album gets WAY more hate than it should I feel.
Solid songs:
In My Hood
This is 50
I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
Piggy Bank
Gatman & Robin [Ft. Eminem]
Outta Control
Get In My Car
Ski Mask Way
A Baltimore Love Thing
Ryder Music
Gunz Come Out
My Toy Soldier [Ft. Tony Yayo]
Do any of U really disagree with those tracks being dope? The only one I feel I can give a pass to y'all if u said "nah, that shit wasn't hot" is Get In My Car. But the rest, fuckin' dope.
Posistion of Power, I Don't Need 'Em, God Gave Me Style & Hate It Or Love [GUnit Remix] are all good too.
Fuck Candy Shop, Just a Lil' Bit, Disco Inferno, Build You Up & So Amazing
5 filler/crap on a 21 song album is SOLID; wish every album nowadays put up those statistics
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Ski mask was and is my shit... Gatman i woulnt of put on there i would of put a lil bit on there tho... beat is siiick
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Nah sorry man its actually that bad compared to GRODT. You have to make comparisons cuz GRODT is what 50 is capable of and he thought too much of himself and couldnt wait a bit longer to get Dre to make this classic too. Patience would have made this a much better album and it and Curtis are good at best (and thats only when I am in the mood). Sorry man Good for you if you dig but I just cant. His latest album is still a bit weak but its better than these two albums put together!
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I agree with Lunatic. There were a lot of bangers, hell I even liked Disco Inferno. Beat knocked and it was a pretty good club joint. For me it was Candy Shop and Just a lil Bit that pissed me off. If Iovine hadn't told 50 to go back in the studio and do something with Storch then things may have been a lot more different.
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I prefered it to GRODT
Get In My Car and Ski Mask Way are my favourite tracks, beats were insane
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i recall that massacre was one of the worst -if not THE worst- albums that i ever heard
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Somebody Gonna Die Tonight is probably my favourite 50 song.
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Massacre was a great album, I was saying that since day one and always got called crazy. He obviously lost that hunger compared to GRODT but it was 50 at his peak as a songwriter, every track could've been a single. I also didn't mind Candy Shop, Lil Bit and Disco Inferno because they all had banging production and were done proper for a catchy single which was the purpose of it. Same with that Jamie Foxx joint and So Amazing had a nice little bounce to it and 50's melodic flow. Considering some of the Massacre session tracks ended up on Game's album and GRODT OST maybe 3,4 changes and the album would be better than GRODT. The album was an event and had that big Aftermath feel to it unlike Curtis and BISD that sound like mixtapes.
Don't forget that you had an all star production that had a distinctive/ cohesive sound to it: Dre, Storch, J.R., Hi-Tek, Needlz, Sha Money, Eminem, Buckwild, Dangerous LLC, Cool & Dre...
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Massacre>>>GRODT
This was mad underrated at the time cos everyone was sick of 50 and on Game's nuts.
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Another thread about The Massacre. As I've said many times before, this is an under-rated album. My opinion on this is more or less the same as Meho's. Just that the Jamie Foxx joint wasn't great. The only other track I wasn't feeling was Gatman & Robin. I'm going to put it on right now.
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I agree with you all. If he wasn't afraid to reveal more about his character than his gangsta persona it would've been a better structured album with tracks like Hate It or Love It. The pop sections weighed the album down. I could do without Candy Shop and Piggy Bank.
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i ALWAYS said this album was tight.
but also, don't even get any idea that it was better than GRODT, it was a few levels down.
i prefer Power of The Dollar too.
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its ight
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Massacre for me has some of 50's best ever tracks on it
Get In My Car is my personal favourite 8)
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Personal fav 50 album.
When the deluxe version with the video's came out, I was blazed like every day watching that...lol
(Got me thru a rough patch, Well that and the herb)
Fav: "Ski Mask Way"
Could do W/O track: "Gatman & Robin"
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^you must have been a HUGE fan of the Disco Inferno video. :laugh:
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This album gets WAY more hate than it should I feel.
Solid songs:
In My Hood
This is 50
I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
Piggy Bank
Gatman & Robin [Ft. Eminem]
Outta Control
Get In My Car
Ski Mask Way
A Baltimore Love Thing
Ryder Music
Gunz Come Out
My Toy Soldier [Ft. Tony Yayo]
Do any of U really disagree with those tracks being dope? The only one I feel I can give a pass to y'all if u said "nah, that shit wasn't hot" is Get In My Car. But the rest, fuckin' dope.
Posistion of Power, I Don't Need 'Em, God Gave Me Style & Hate It Or Love [GUnit Remix] are all good too.
Fuck Candy Shop, Just a Lil' Bit, Disco Inferno, Build You Up & So Amazing
5 filler/crap on a 21 song album is SOLID; wish every album nowadays put up those statistics
actually, i'd start to worry if everybody felt the same about the album :P
seriously, some of you guys need to cut it out with that hate bullshit
anyway, it has too much filler.
i only listen to: i'm supposed to die tonight, Ryder music, Piggy Bank & Position of Power
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get rich n massacre r both dope albums
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This album gets WAY more hate than it should I feel.
Solid songs:
In My Hood
This is 50
I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
Piggy Bank
Gatman & Robin [Ft. Eminem]
Outta Control
Get In My Car
Ski Mask Way
A Baltimore Love Thing
Ryder Music
Gunz Come Out
My Toy Soldier [Ft. Tony Yayo]
Do any of U really disagree with those tracks being dope? The only one I feel I can give a pass to y'all if u said "nah, that shit wasn't hot" is Get In My Car. But the rest, fuckin' dope.
Posistion of Power, I Don't Need 'Em, God Gave Me Style & Hate It Or Love [GUnit Remix] are all good too.
Fuck Candy Shop, Just a Lil' Bit, Disco Inferno, Build You Up & So Amazing
5 filler/crap on a 21 song album is SOLID; wish every album nowadays put up those statistics
agree on everything here except..
id take off gatman & Robin , My toy soldier..... dont and still dont like the beats......
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I love the Gatman and Robin beat I just hate what they rapped about. It was laaammmeeee.
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I definitely think that "The Massacre" was a step up from GRODT in terms of production, quality of the beats...and GRODT had some dope material. Massacre was just more refined, more polished. A good mix of styles, surely there was filler. But if you take the 50 material that ended up on "The Documentary" and some of the cuts he put on the "GRODT Soundtrack", I think it would've been a near perfect record.
Like Meho said, it was 50 at his songwriting peak.
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This album gets WAY more hate than it should I feel.
Solid songs:
In My Hood
This is 50
I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
Piggy Bank
Gatman & Robin [Ft. Eminem]
Outta Control
Get In My Car
Ski Mask Way
A Baltimore Love Thing
Ryder Music
Gunz Come Out
My Toy Soldier [Ft. Tony Yayo]
Do any of U really disagree with those tracks being dope? The only one I feel I can give a pass to y'all if u said "nah, that shit wasn't hot" is Get In My Car. But the rest, fuckin' dope.
Posistion of Power, I Don't Need 'Em, God Gave Me Style & Hate It Or Love [GUnit Remix] are all good too.
Fuck Candy Shop, Just a Lil' Bit, Disco Inferno, Build You Up & So Amazing
5 filler/crap on a 21 song album is SOLID; wish every album nowadays put up those statistics
CO MUTHA FUCKIN SIGN ;D
Ryda Music was my shit. And as Hatesrats said, the deluxe edition with the videos is the shit. I can play that album front to back and not skip a track.
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It's hated on for the same reason Doggfather is hated on, it's as simple as that...
Album is solid as fuck, and still gets spins
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great album. Piggy Bank :o
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This was and still is a weak album . As a rapper is going worst and worst with each album , I have the impression that lots of posters here use the "it was not that bad of an album" or "it has grown on me" argument to try defending their favorite rappers
I enjoy the following tracks , the rest goes from bumpable to horrible :
In My Hood
This is 50
I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
Outta Control
Ski Mask Way
Gunz Come Out
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or maybe they like it and think the criticism is unfair?
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maybe but dont you find surprising that 95% of them thought it was wack when it's 1st came out ? Your opinion on an album can obviously change but a such turnaround is surprising .. just my opinion
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maybe but dont you find surprising that 95% of them thought it was wack when it's 1st came out ? Your opinion on an album can obviously change but a such turnaround is surprising .. just my opinion
prime example is just look at the BISD album leak thread.
the first 3 pages were pure "great album", one guy came in & said it was garbage & then the next 5 pages were all about how poor the album was lol.
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maybe but dont you find surprising that 95% of them thought it was wack when it's 1st came out ? Your opinion on an album can obviously change but a such turnaround is surprising .. just my opinion
prime example is just look at the BISD album leak thread.
the first 3 pages were pure "great album", one guy came in & said it was garbage & then the next 5 pages were all about how poor the album was lol.
that's true ....
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maybe but dont you find surprising that 95% of them thought it was wack when it's 1st came out ? Your opinion on an album can obviously change but a such turnaround is surprising .. just my opinion
I always though the shit was dope, and know alot of people who thought the same
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Ryder Muzic
I suppose to die tonight
postition of power
all dope 8) 8)
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Back when 50 hit the commercial scene I was an elitist strictly underground "real" rap shit. I hated him. So, my tastes have clearly changed. My experiences have allowed me to appreciate all kinds of hip-hop and music. Now when people hate on club tracks I laugh. There's a time and place for everything especially celebrating life in the moment.
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everybody hates an album when it first comes out (atleast bloggers do) and then everybody loves it after about 2 years. i made a massacre topic a minute ago saying that this album wasn't hot garbage like everybody was saying. wait til about another year or two comes, Curtis will be compared to GRODT and BISD will be right under that until a year or two from that. it's a continuous and pathetic cycle that people make albums go thru
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its because overall music keeps getting shittier and shittier so the shit of yesteryear becomes gold compared to the shit of today
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its because overall music keeps getting shittier and shittier so the shit of yesteryear becomes gold compared to the shit of today
which is why it's never a good thing to hate on a record or "speak your mind" everytime you hear something new (most people always speak too soon). too many people get caught up in judging the first 30 seconds of a track or the 1st listen and never go back and listen to it again and rule it off of that. i do it too bcuz it tells u how good tha song is but you can't hear everything just by doin that. look at everybody (on here) hatin' on Gucci Mane.
Pretty soon most will be on Gucci or everybody will be goin' 2 a Gucci Mane show bcuz it's gonna be the thing to do (in the US). now don't over exaggerate my words but u kno that's how the shit is gonna play out, look at The Diplomats (Cam, Jimmy, & Juelz). I remember when they wasn't so popular everybody (includin' me) didn't really fuck wit em, now Jimmy got his own name/brand, Juelz got a name and respect, and niggaz be waitin' on that new Cam shit (atleast the actual album or dvd), shit niggaz even know about Zeak. bottom line, this is how shit always plays out; the jealousy and hate then the jockin'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWvOPB7357s
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Yall aint faceing reality cuzz...fif 1st was his best...aint no fucking way massacre was touching his 1st...yall need to just drop the bullshit....massacre had sooo many fillers it was crazy. :(
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I think the problem is people are over critical of music this day and age.Too many people judge music after listening to an album once.In this day and age of the ipod and quick fix,people listen to it a song once they aint feeling it and they delete the song from their playlist.That is not the wya to listen to music.People say its because its defending their favourite artist,or music is getting shittier,but its not that.Music is a strange beast.Some of my favourtie songs of all time are songs that I didnt like the first time I heard them.People dont take the time to let the music develop within themself.I see chad vader posts his reviews on here and base his likes on what he doesnt delete.I dont get that.To me thats just depriving yourself of music that you could possibly like in the future.
As for this album in particular,this album to me is like snoops doggfather.When you follow up a classic album,unless its a certified classic its going to be torn apart and overly criticized.Its a great album,its only problem is it followed get rich.Doggfather was considered garbage at the time,but not its widely considered his second best album.
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I think the problem is people are over critical of music this day and age.Too many people judge music after listening to an album once.In this day and age of the ipod and quick fix,people listen to it a song once they aint feeling it and they delete the song from their playlist.That is not the wya to listen to music.People say its because its defending their favourite artist,or music is getting shittier,but its not that.Music is a strange beast.Some of my favourtie songs of all time are songs that I didnt like the first time I heard them.People dont take the time to let the music develop within themself.I see chad vader posts his reviews on here and base his likes on what he doesnt delete.I dont get that.To me thats just depriving yourself of music that you could possibly like in the future.
As for this album in particular,this album to me is like snoops doggfather.When you follow up a classic album,unless its a certified classic its going to be torn apart and overly criticized.Its a great album,its only problem is it followed get rich.Doggfather was considered garbage at the time,but not its widely considered his second best album.
i like doggfather from the start..... i have listen to the massacre plenty of times(my car,headphones,dres headphones,club)and now in 2009,and still think this lp.isaight nothing special...and i like fif.buuuut sorry. ???
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Thats your opinion but Ive always thought it was a dope album.
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to many fillers for me....same with bigs 2nd album...great album,but had alot of fillers. :(
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to many fillers for me....same with bigs 2nd album...great album,but had alot of fillers. :(
True, but 50 even said he "overdid" the Massacre. I think the Massacre shits on GRODT if u trim it down to the top 12/14 tracks. Do urself a favor and trim it down 2 ur favs and then play GRODT, you'll see. IMO GRODT was an okay album, it was tha shit at tha time bcuz everybody was goin' soft and niggaz needed 50 Cent and Lil' Jon back then. They brawt that hard shit back, which is why GRODT sounded so fresh then, but listen to it now it sounds kinda average/basic (atleast to me)