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Title: 2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Hittman2001 on November 14, 2002, 04:28:01 PM
has been ripped.  i would wait on getting this, the queues are crazy right now.  it is available on pretty much every channel
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Rick on November 14, 2002, 05:17:34 PM
I'm gettin it now... I can't wait to hear They Don't Give A Fuck About Us in real cdq..  ;D :)
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on November 14, 2002, 05:20:25 PM
damn immma check that out

by the way did y'all notice that all the album coming november 19 and november 26 are all out on the net Except One (I'll let u guess)
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Hittman2001 on November 14, 2002, 05:34:57 PM
snoop is the next victim of internet bootlegging
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: southbound on November 14, 2002, 05:59:52 PM
you gotta give snoop credit though.. shits on lock
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Post by: serv-on on November 14, 2002, 07:09:09 PM
you gotta give snoop credit though.. shits on lock
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: serv-on on November 14, 2002, 07:09:46 PM
btw anyone got that tupac shit yet?
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Hittman2001 on November 14, 2002, 07:14:47 PM
mine just finished downloading
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Post by: Gotti......Xl on November 14, 2002, 07:22:15 PM
snoop is the next victim of internet bootlegging
lol
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Efrain on November 14, 2002, 08:06:45 PM
yea i just got it. Shit aint all that in my opinion. I cant stand the kids that defent these wack pac albums on face value alone. something to note, They dont give a fuck about us sounds like that they got it off the internet and remastered it lol. I bet somone jacked the master and left a cassette tape dub.

Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Hittman2001 on November 14, 2002, 08:17:17 PM
this cd is garbage in my opinion
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: js83 on November 14, 2002, 09:32:01 PM
i heard that dis album is actually pretty good...lot better then UTEOT...
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Young Dan Iza on November 14, 2002, 09:58:44 PM
im feelin dis shit, kinda different vibe this time around doe,,,shits bangin jazze pha really hooked pac up wit some hot shit, but tha joint im bangin the most is....
U CAN CALL, yall want some bangin west coast classic beat this is it wit pac flwoin over it
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Hatesrats™ on November 14, 2002, 09:59:41 PM

Fuckin'...Bitch azz Internet!!

It's dope, but sometimes peep's blow it to fucken bitz and abuse the fuck out of it. ;)

Enjoy ya free music while ya still can...
It all comes to an end.

Support the music
Hatesrats 2oo2
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: D1G1T4L on November 14, 2002, 11:28:47 PM

Fuckin'...Bitch azz Internet!!

It's dope, but sometimes peep's blow it to fucken bitz and abuse the fuck out of it. ;)

Enjoy ya free music while ya still can...
It all comes to an end.

Support the music
Hatesrats 2oo2

You obviously dont know computers that well then.... It will never come to an end, no matter what music industry will do...

yea i downloaded the 2pac album, listening to it right now
i was kind of disgusted by intro track how the reporter said "We are all wondering where all the tracks keep coming from" looks like suge is trying to profit from 2pac death. kind of stupid in my opinion

he is dead, let him rest, that aint cool suge
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: D1G1T4L on November 14, 2002, 11:29:38 PM
Which one is suppose to be the mike tyson song btw?
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Myrealname on November 14, 2002, 11:32:22 PM
Check the tracks here !
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=23592
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: D1G1T4L on November 14, 2002, 11:35:18 PM
They dont give a fuck about us sounds like that they got it off the internet and remastered it lol. I bet somone jacked the master and left a cassette tape dub.



sounds normal to me, maybe you downloaded a fucked up version?
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: js83 on November 14, 2002, 11:39:48 PM
Which one is suppose to be the mike tyson song btw?

i don't think that song is on the album..
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Myrealname on November 14, 2002, 11:52:53 PM
The album is good but is sad listen to the same diss after several years....
fuck fugees,bad boy,mobb deep....sad and boring.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: D1G1T4L on November 14, 2002, 11:57:25 PM
The album is good but is sad listen to the same diss after several years....
fuck fugees,bad boy,mobb deep....sad and boring.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: D1G1T4L on November 14, 2002, 11:57:53 PM
Which one is suppose to be the mike tyson song btw?

i don't think that song is on the album..


shit you are right

i hella wanted that song :(
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Lil Jay on November 15, 2002, 12:51:32 AM
i dont know about yall but im fuckin sick of these 2pac albums that come out after he died. those  moneymakin bitches use his name to make money and put trick daddy or nas on it. i aint gonna buy this shit,, yea its his music but never in life will i buy these albums. and i just heard that  the next 2pac album is coming next year, afeni is puttin it out and suge knight is gettin paid again. im just sick if this bs and thats my opinion
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: southbound on November 15, 2002, 12:54:11 AM
i dont know about yall but im fuckin sick of these 2pac albums that come out after he died. those  moneymakin bitches use his name to make money and put trick daddy or nas on it. i aint gonna buy this shit,, yea its his music but never in life will i buy these albums. and i just heard that  the next 2pac album is coming next year, afeni is puttin it out and suge knight is gettin paid again. im just sick if this bs and thats my opinion
word!! i couldnt agree with you more homie.. the album is just ok imo. i didnt buy uteot and im not going to buy this one. im only gonna buy snoop on the 26th.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Myrealname on November 15, 2002, 12:57:43 AM
i dont know about yall but im fuckin sick of these 2pac albums that come out after he died. those  moneymakin bitches use his name to make money and put trick daddy or nas on it. i aint gonna buy this shit,, yea its his music but never in life will i buy these albums. and i just heard that  the next 2pac album is coming next year, afeni is puttin it out and suge knight is gettin paid again. im just sick if this bs and thats my opinion
According to antocorsa this album is POETRY.... :D  :D  :D
                                                                 :D  :D  :D
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: southbound on November 15, 2002, 01:11:11 AM
Quote

According to antocorsa this album is POETRY.... :D  :D  :D
                                                                 :D  :D  :D
yeah well consider the source  ;D
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Scarfacetony on November 15, 2002, 01:34:46 AM
Corsa is right the Album is Tight

TO ALL THE HATERS: check out "Mamas just a lil girl" and Im sure you will stop bithcin about the album
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Scarfacetony on November 15, 2002, 01:35:44 AM
The album is good but is sad listen to the same diss after several years....
fuck fugees,bad boy,mobb deep....sad and boring.

bad boy kilaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: southbound on November 15, 2002, 01:49:56 AM

TO ALL THE HATERS: check out "Mamas just a lil girl" and Im sure you will stop bithcin about the album

listening to it right now, and honestly its lame, nuthin special, and i consider myself a pac fan. i just wont buy his shit
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: The Watcher on November 15, 2002, 03:15:16 AM
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~gabbs/2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS.tar

dont know if anyones posted the link ..
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Myrealname on November 15, 2002, 03:19:03 AM
Corsa is right the Album is Tight

TO ALL THE HATERS: check out "Mamas just a lil girl" and Im sure you will stop bithcin about the album
Nah.... :D
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Hatesrats™ on November 15, 2002, 11:51:27 AM
If your a post 96' fan...
this shitt is not for you anyway so stay down lil' kid's.
I still haven't heard not a one track off of this shit, but I know it's already sold to me.
Cause I've been a fan since 90% of you were still tryin' to find a fad to cling onto...lol

{2pacalypse now}

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2

Maybe when ya grow some pubes and have a lil' more info on how life is a special thing we should appreciate.
Then maybe we can all see that we Pac fan's feel blessed that his music and wordz will live on forever...

A big Fuck you to all the hater's.
U will never understand shitt.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Myrealname on November 15, 2002, 11:56:16 AM
If your a post 96' fan...
this shitt is not for you anyway so stay down lil' kid's.
I still haven't heard not a one track off of this shit, but I know it's already sold to me.
Cause I've been a fan since 90% of you were still tryin' to find a fad to cling onto...lol

{2pacalypse now}

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2

Maybe when ya grow some pubes and have a lil' more info on how life is a special thing we should appreciate.
Then maybe we can all see that we Pac fan's feel blessed that his music and wordz will live on forever...

A big Fuck you to all the hater's.
U will never understand shitt.
Yeah,from a JA RULE FAN.... :D  :D  :D pretty funny  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Rick on November 15, 2002, 12:18:14 PM
If your a post 96' fan...
this shitt is not for you anyway so stay down lil' kid's.
I still haven't heard not a one track off of this shit, but I know it's already sold to me.
Cause I've been a fan since 90% of you were still tryin' to find a fad to cling onto...lol

{2pacalypse now}

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2

Maybe when ya grow some pubes and have a lil' more info on how life is a special thing we should appreciate.
Then maybe we can all see that we Pac fan's feel blessed that his music and wordz will live on forever...

A big Fuck you to all the hater's.
U will never understand shitt.
Yeah,from a JA RULE FAN.... :D  :D  :D pretty funny  :D  :D  :D

It's true, Myrealname. You're an ignorant dickhead who's obsessed with Snoop Dogg.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Myrealname on November 15, 2002, 12:23:24 PM
If your a post 96' fan...
this shitt is not for you anyway so stay down lil' kid's.
I still haven't heard not a one track off of this shit, but I know it's already sold to me.
Cause I've been a fan since 90% of you were still tryin' to find a fad to cling onto...lol

{2pacalypse now}

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2

Maybe when ya grow some pubes and have a lil' more info on how life is a special thing we should appreciate.
Then maybe we can all see that we Pac fan's feel blessed that his music and wordz will live on forever...

A big Fuck you to all the hater's.
U will never understand shitt.
Yeah,from a JA RULE FAN.... :D  :D  :D pretty funny  :D  :D  :D

It's true, Myrealname. You're an ignorant dickhead who's obsessed with Snoop Dogg.
:D :D :D
Ok my dear kid net banger!
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: gFuNkA on November 15, 2002, 12:52:00 PM
all the og versions of these recycled tracks on that release are way much better...i dont buy that album, its not worth the money.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Quadruple OG on November 15, 2002, 12:54:19 PM
My 2 cents on the album:

I liked the album, it's a lil better than UTEOT, partially because there are more unbootlegged tracks on "Better Days" than there was on UTEOT.  Anyone that questioned 7 Aurelius's involvement in this album needs to slap themselves upside the head, he did a great job with "Thug Mansion" and "Better Days", 2 of my 3 favorite cuts on the album.  Jazze Pha  did a pretty good job, especially with "U Can Call".  I know a lot of peeps are upset about "Ghetto Star", but remember the original beat was already used by Bad Azz on his first album, so they needed to change it up.  Whoever produced "When we ride on our enemies" ruined the song.  Overall, good album, it's amazing how ahead of his time he was when listening to the album.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 15, 2002, 01:40:30 PM
If your a post 96' fan...
this shitt is not for you anyway so stay down lil' kid's.
I still haven't heard not a one track off of this shit, but I know it's already sold to me.
Cause I've been a fan since 90% of you were still tryin' to find a fad to cling onto...lol

{2pacalypse now}

OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2

Maybe when ya grow some pubes and have a lil' more info on how life is a special thing we should appreciate.
Then maybe we can all see that we Pac fan's feel blessed that his music and wordz will live on forever...

A big Fuck you to all the hater's.
U will never understand shitt.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Quadruple OG on November 15, 2002, 01:45:33 PM
The album is good but is sad listen to the same diss after several years....
fuck fugees,bad boy,mobb deep....sad and boring.

what the fuck you want, bring 2pac back to life just to re-record the song?
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on November 15, 2002, 02:51:44 PM
I cant wait to get my hands on this. I dont no whether to down load this or just wait till its released.
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Post by: smartass on November 15, 2002, 04:47:55 PM
its alot better than uteot imo. only thing i didn't like was the remixed beats on fright night and when we ride on our enemies. the beat on ghetto star and nuttso featuring on the track instead of bad azz was better than the og...
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Post by: ImmortalOne on November 15, 2002, 04:56:54 PM
FUCK all you haters.

this album is off the hook, period. MUCH, MUCH better than UTEOT, there is no comparison.
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Post by: js83 on November 15, 2002, 05:13:01 PM
FUCK all you haters.

this album is off the hook, period. MUCH, MUCH better than UTEOT, there is no comparison.

word~
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: D1G1T4L on November 15, 2002, 05:15:14 PM
isnt this suppose to be last 2pac album?

there will be more out?
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Doggystylin on November 15, 2002, 06:45:20 PM
man i got nothin but love for 2pac, but man FUCK this album and FUCK suge and his mama for switchin up the beats, man the OG song should be put out, why the fuck they put a new beat, shit sounds so fuckin gay with a new beat, pac doesnt even sound like himself, the only thing i have a problem with is the production, i want the OG beats, fuckin people dont know what we want......we want the OG shit without your dirty hands fuckin with the songs
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Lil Jay on November 15, 2002, 07:49:09 PM
man i got nothin but love for 2pac, but man FUCK this album and FUCK suge and his mama for switchin up the beats, man the OG song should be put out, why the fuck they put a new beat, shit sounds so fuckin gay with a new beat, pac doesnt even sound like himself, the only thing i have a problem with is the production, i want the OG beats, fuckin people dont know what we want......we want the OG shit without your dirty hands fuckin with the songs


right,..thanks for your opinion. i never once questioned his talent and lyrics cause i know he was ahead of his time, and i appreciate HIS music but im just tired of these albums with changed beats. and lmao at all these dickriders gettin mad when ppl have different opinions
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Post by: Hatesrats™ on November 15, 2002, 10:36:05 PM

The part I find shady as fuck is when peep's want the O.G. beats on the lp's or whatever...I agree the Illegal music we heard before was dope in it's original Drawing board form, but as far as anyone knew {Producer's artists} at the time of making the song...it was material to be stored and fixed and mixed up later, Pac was just droppin' vocal's on studio scrap's.....
Most of those beat's/song's we have so viciously Bootleged since 96' should have never been in our hand's in the first place.
So when we cry about track's that we liked wit' song's that they would have to pay thousand's for in Clearence we are left with an all new lp with music that u were supposed to be hearing for the first time, and we were not even supposed to know it was remixed....lol. ;)

So consider Ourself lucky to have Pac drop so much shitt.
OnE
Hatesrats 2002
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Gotti......Xl on November 16, 2002, 08:54:32 AM
i got the the shit but i think they fuck so many classic like 12 Ghetto Star (Feat Nutt-So) bad azz was tight but igot a burner and the og's song and repalcing the track lol ha

02 still ballin is tight  i like trick dady

03 When We Ride On Our Enemies og's better
 
04 change man is tight sound like world wide mob figgaz pt2
 
05 fuck em all is tight off the hook pac got great production

06 never be peace is kool to but no storm outlawz new version they got poetry on this track is kool

07 Mama's Just A Little Girl i picture this track like real life shit's
 
the happen  is like lil bitchez going to party fucking  all theses foolz only trying to kick it and a lil kids growing up with his mon getting abuses.

08 street fame is fuckin tight

09 what'ch gonna do more poetry by the lawz is tight

10 Fair XChange = Boss playa  this shit is tight jazze pha hook this album up with the track i smell next single

11 late night yall heard the game tight iam fuckin bitchez the same night

12 ghetto star  they kill this shit but if got a burner and the og version fuck it lil romeo

13 Thug masion is tight i picture the video a big house like new jACK City were foolz go and get smoke out  ;D
 
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Post by: Murrow on November 16, 2002, 12:33:57 PM
So far, I like "Still Ballin" because it has a fresh feel.  Not the old '94-'96 Pac feel we've been stuck with.


I d/l this off IRC and it only gave me the second disc.  Can someone please tell me or hook me up with the second disc?
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Don Mega on November 16, 2002, 01:39:37 PM
Why are people not supporting this album because of the beats? What was it that made 2Pac so special? his ability to reach out and make music that most people can relate to, his ability to touch people , his ability to make us think! NOT his beats!

Let me ask you people a question, when u rate a album do u rate the beats or the lyrics? obviously u should rate both but to me it seems like u put 90 % into the beats. 2Pac always put his feelings into every single track... and he was being real everytime. And to be honest... i've heard the better days samples and the beats on this album arent that bad.

its sad what hip hop is becoming. It seems like a constant competition to make dope beats and nothing else. Take a artist like Dre. People glorifies dre like the king of the west coast.... what makes him the king? his beats??? pleeeaaaase! Its funny how i've never heard anyone say "2001 was a dope album... but the lyrics are pointless, therefor ITS NOT A CLASSIC!" Everyone see what i mean? 2001 sold platinum because of the fucking beats, dre could be taking a shit over the still d.r.e beat and go platinum. Dont get me wrong, 2001 is a hella dope album... but it aint classic because his lyrics don't wake any feelings in people.

But 2pacs lyrics does wake feelings! and to me the lyrics are 90-95 % of the album

the people who are unsatisfied with the beats go listen to p. diddy. The rest of us will "settle" with 2Pac
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Post by: ImmortalOne on November 16, 2002, 03:13:16 PM
^^^I couldnt of said it better.

And besides, the beats on this album are actually pretty good. Id even go as far to say that some of them are better then the originals, though most of them arent. However, any 2Pac fan should be happy with this album. Its much less watered down than UTEOT, there are less guest appearances, and less fucked up hooks. Bangin album overall........
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: King-Suge on November 16, 2002, 05:38:36 PM
Why are people not supporting this album because of the beats? What was it that made 2Pac so special? his ability to reach out and make music that most people can relate to, his ability to touch people , his ability to make us think! NOT his beats!

Let me ask you people a question, when u rate a album do u rate the beats or the lyrics? obviously u should rate both but to me it seems like u put 90 % into the beats. 2Pac always put his feelings into every single track... and he was being real everytime. And to be honest... i've heard the better days samples and the beats on this album arent that bad.

its sad what hip hop is becoming. It seems like a constant competition to make dope beats and nothing else. Take a artist like Dre. People glorifies dre like the king of the west coast.... what makes him the king? his beats??? pleeeaaaase! Its funny how i've never heard anyone say "2001 was a dope album... but the lyrics are pointless, therefor ITS NOT A CLASSIC!" Everyone see what i mean? 2001 sold platinum because of the fucking beats, dre could be taking a shit over the still d.r.e beat and go platinum. Dont get me wrong, 2001 is a hella dope album... but it aint classic because his lyrics don't wake any feelings in people.

But 2pacs lyrics does wake feelings! and to me the lyrics are 90-95 % of the album

the people who are unsatisfied with the beats go listen to p. diddy. The rest of us will "settle" with 2Pac

Awful post.

Listen up, pumpkin.  I listen to rap music cos the shit sounds good.  Yah-good lyrics are tight but they should never draw you in.  Music is about sound, poetry is about words.  You got your lines crossed, little one.
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Don Mega on November 17, 2002, 01:22:32 AM
I'm sorry my king.

Theres no discussion to be made. You listen to it because it sounds good i listen to it because i like lyrics i can relate to ---- 2 different views. Its cool with me, you just go on and let loose listening to pointless songs.

btw. please don't call me pumpkin, im not interested in being drawn into the homosexual world
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: D1G1T4L on November 17, 2002, 01:54:57 AM
i'll have to agree with king

sure lyrics are good, but mostly i listen to songs cause they sound good and cool to bump in the car, i mean scarface has some of the best lyrics  and he is not as popular as some other rappers because his flow/voice/beats dont sound as good

i listen to music because it sounds tight

and about you relating to lyrics....... you relate to 90 percent rappers singing about killing someone, riding bentleys, etc? i doubt that.....
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: Don Mega on November 17, 2002, 04:11:19 AM
i'll have to agree with king

sure lyrics are good, but mostly i listen to songs cause they sound good and cool to bump in the car, i mean scarface has some of the best lyrics  and he is not as popular as some other rappers because his flow/voice/beats dont sound as good

i listen to music because it sounds tight

and about you relating to lyrics....... you relate to 90 percent rappers singing about killing someone, riding bentleys, etc? i doubt that.....

If you read more closely i said that when i listen to 2Pac the lyrics are 90 percent to me. Sure i buy alot of albums that i just listen to and think are dope (like 2001) but i can't really relate to them. So when rappers talk about bentleys and killing people i just listen to it and thats it... i don't relate to it. I'm not saying 2Pac didn't have these kind of songs cus he did, but he had alot of mind blowing lyrics as well.

About the scarface issue. I think scarface is one of the dopest rappers ever because of his lyrics, its true that he's not as popular as other rappers but that really doesnt mean shit these days when dudes like p. diddy, nelly, ja rule etc. are some of the most recognised "rappers"

Im just saying its cool that u listen to it because it sounds dope... i do too but that doesnt make it classic to me. Check the 4 pillars of hip hop: Dj'ing, Rapping, breaking and graffiti. Now the last 2 has been forgotten long time ago... and the 2. is going the same way, i mean who the fuck listens to Pharaoh monch, mos def, talib kweli, common and rappers like that? not many but they are still some of the dopest rappers today

Back in the days when hip hop was being experimented with it wasnt really mindblowing to alot of people because alot of it was "break down the beat, get off your feet" and lyrics like that. Then "the message" came along and flipped the game completely because of its lyrical content.

Oh yea, thanks for making a proper reply digital... instead of taking it personal like king suge... I respect your opinion
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: heyyou on November 17, 2002, 06:15:39 AM
I see where don mega & d1g1t4l etc are coming from.  listen to 2pac for his lyrics too but the beats do matter, they set the tone for the lyrics. If P Diddy, or any of te no limit producers produced 2pacs album, would people still say beats don't matter? Plus the lyrics don't really have to say anything important for an album to be a classic. It's a bonus if they do, but I wouldn't say that doggystyle had anything to say, except for an exaggerated day in snoop's life. I will also disagree with don mega saying that dre's 2001 album didn't say anything lyrically. IMO it was personal & introspective on some tracks (O.K. so dre didn't write the lyrics), eg the watcher, still dre, what's the difference, forgot about dre, bang bang & the message.

I respect all your opinions, and agree with you in some points, but many I disagree, please don't interpret them as hating on you because i'm not. Basically when I buy a cd it's all about the music, beats, lyrics & flows. Depending on the artist, beats, lyrics  & flows are more important than others.
The only problemI have with the new 2pac albums (after makaveli), is that they are not doing justice to his music.
Some of the remixed tracks are better than the OG eg. until the end of time, but I'd rather have the original tracks, (touch them up if necessary). IMO the remixed version of All Out on UTEOT was just plain awful compared to the original. If they can't get the sample clearence, they should change the sample slightly to get around it, why change the whole beat? The same goes for the changing of the outlaw verses. I touched on this topic more on a reply for another post on this forum a few days ago (titled: betta dayz OG - I think).
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: smartass on November 17, 2002, 10:39:38 AM
first you people complain about uteot beats sounding too pop. now the new album gets harder more west-influenced beats and your still complaining. if you want og's go buy the makaveli bootlegs and stop whining..
Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: KuRupTed PuNjAbiZ on November 18, 2002, 12:57:33 AM
2pac better dayz rt here
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ftp://better:dayz@24.76.138.33:21
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Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: js83 on November 18, 2002, 01:51:20 AM


btw. please don't call me pumpkin, im not interested in being drawn into the homosexual world

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Title: Re:2Pac-Better_Dayz-2CD-2002-RNS
Post by: LIL GUY on November 18, 2002, 07:30:58 AM
If beats aint bangin, I aint fuckin wit it.