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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: BiggBoogaBiff on November 16, 2009, 10:57:49 AM
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i mean, it's cool having Dr. Dre behind the nigga but the styles just dont mesh like u would think Dre is tryna accomplish (being a perfectionist and all). Black Milk's production screams Bishop's name anyways, way better than any track I've heard him do with Dr. Dre or the Aftermath Production Team (well most anyways). Cuzzo should just do it, fuck Dre, fuck Interscope; fuck Aftermath/G Unit/Shady, and fuck going' all of the way mainstream (or trying to get there). The nigga got mad talent but me personally, I think if Bishop wants to be successful on his own and make a brand for himself without constantly and forever being synonymous with Dr. Dre then he should do it (he still got plenty of time to do it). Bcuz right now that's how his legacy is gonna play out; just another nigga that had potential to be on his own star but stayed under Dr. Dre's shadow/mind game/pawnship and lost out. The nigga Dre ain't the GOAT nomore, and I damn sure ain't forgot about Dre ya dig.
Bishop and Black all day, they could be the 2020 Guru/Preme... the styles that they have go 2getha like Guns and Bullets, u laff but that's real talk, it's straight fire every time. My advice to Bishop, leave Dre immediately, drop something with Black immediately (or whoever the budget calls for at tha time, but Black would b better) and move out on your own. You have a name in tha rap game, use it. Dr. Dre/Interscope are just stagnating the truth that could be brought to this game (when u think about Hip Hop as a whole). Bishop & Black bring something new and fresh to Hip Hop.
And fuck wit' niggaz on the East Coast too, u get love out here. Homie got tha right flow for our style of instrumentals.
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I see what your sayin
Id like a Bishop album with production from Khalil, Dready, Black Milk, Focus and Dae One
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I see what your sayin
Id like a Bishop album with production from Khalil, Dready, Black Milk, Focus and Dae One
hell yeah, son dont need Dre, nobody needs Dr. Dre anymore. he's just fuckin his own career up staying over at Aftermath. I like Bishop, I wanna see the nigga do bigger shit bcuz of the image/message he represents; and of course get some bangin ass music in tha process. Him & Dre just don't sound as good as him and Black do or anybody else he's workd with over the years.
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To be fair i loved every track Bishop and Dre have cooked up together
"No Stoppin Carson" still gets dailly play by me :D
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I've never known of anyone leaving a label just based off the fact that they wanted to. Thing is labels don't just hand out money on contracts for artists and then let them go do whatever because they've had a change of heart or think they can succeed better on their own or with a different label. So it's a nice thought but unless Dre decides Bishop ain't working out, he probably ain't going nowhere.
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I've never known of anyone leaving a label just based off the fact that they wanted to. Thing is labels don't just hand out money on contracts for artists and then let them go do whatever because they've had a change of heart or think they can succeed better on their own or with a different label. So it's a nice thought but unless Dre decides Bishop ain't working out, he probably ain't going nowhere.
you're probably too right homie, that's the problem
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Not a fan of dude at all but it wouldnt be a bad idea
i mean Slaughter House is really doin things considering the fact that they dont have that major powerhouse backin them up
and they still out there gettin it doin all kinda tours, doin BET and whatnot
i think if Bishop did this, but at the same time using the right tools to get by (internet etc) then he prolly would be more succesful. As long as he dont go the "ima diss everybody" route.
things aint lookin to bright for him over at Aftermath
i personally think dude is pretty wack and it doesnt have anything to do with the fact that he doesnt have the "gangsta persona" or whatever, but people always seem to think that. I just think that dude lacks the "it factor" (ie Nipsey Hussle), nothin about him stands out both on and off the mic, which is why its hard for the public to really like dude. U could make the same argument abotu G Malone..but thats arguble.
but at the same time cant go wrong with any Westcoast music out there
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I've never known of anyone leaving a label just based off the fact that they wanted to. Thing is labels don't just hand out money on contracts for artists and then let them go do whatever because they've had a change of heart or think they can succeed better on their own or with a different label. So it's a nice thought but unless Dre decides Bishop ain't working out, he probably ain't going nowhere.
you're probably too right homie, that's the problem
I think this pretty much sums up Bishops situation over @t the math. SOON something needs to pop off already, when the confessional dropped bishop had a tremendous amount of buzz, Dre should pushed it w/ dropping the Reformation shortly thereafter, but instead he flaked-off which is the only things he's (Dre) good at now. also now we're dealing w/ the potential of this Slim The Mobster kat having an Aftermath album before Bishop has a chance to shine unless there's some situation where they're both going to be heavily featured on Detox like Hittman & Snoop were to either of tha Chronics, then that'd be dope cuz Slim is street/hood and all that, whereas Bishop is like a 'make you think' type of rapper like the kats from wu-tang are... 8) that would be the best route to go, instead of Dre shelving the Reformation like he did w/ Hittman & Stat, which were HUGE devastation's to real & true hip-hop, imo! and it kinda looks like that's whats going to end up happening anyway, Dre need to come-out & say straight-up I endorse this nigga w/ bishop to quell the departure rumors. as well as announce a more sophisticated approach to future Aftermath releases, this shit is getting retarded! :loco:
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Having Dr.Dre isn't a necessity, it's the other in-house producers at Aftermath that really help Bishop's overall sound. I don't care if he's fucking with Dre as long as he's down with khalil, mr. porter, focus, and black milk just to say a few.
Though, I think he'll be fine with or without them.
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at least we get Team America 8)
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at least we get Team America 8)
And we have gotten 3 or 4 street albums before that.
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at least we get Team America 8)
And we have gotten 3 or 4 street albums before that.
yeah i mean who else can say that?
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Fuck an album with Black Milk. He should do an entire album with J. Wells; no guest rappers.
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Dre and Bishop would be dope. The problem is that its not going to happen. He needs to move on and go indie.
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Dre and Bishop would be dope. The problem is that its not going to happen. He needs to move on and go indie.
well he's stuck for now
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at least we get Team America 8)
Is it still the 20th we'll hear it?
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i mean, it's cool having Dr. Dre behind the nigga but the styles just dont mesh like u would think Dre is tryna accomplish (being a perfectionist and all). Black Milk's production screams Bishop's name anyways, way better than any track I've heard him do with Dr. Dre or the Aftermath Production Team (well most anyways). Cuzzo should just do it, fuck Dre, fuck Interscope; fuck Aftermath/G Unit/Shady, and fuck going' all of the way mainstream (or trying to get there). The nigga got mad talent but me personally, I think if Bishop wants to be successful on his own and make a brand for himself without constantly and forever being synonymous with Dr. Dre then he should do it (he still got plenty of time to do it). Bcuz right now that's how his legacy is gonna play out; just another nigga that had potential to be on his own star but stayed under Dr. Dre's shadow/mind game/pawnship and lost out. The nigga Dre ain't the GOAT nomore, and I damn sure ain't forgot about Dre ya dig.
Bishop and Black all day, they could be the 2020 Guru/Preme... the styles that they have go 2getha like Guns and Bullets, u laff but that's real talk, it's straight fire every time. My advice to Bishop, leave Dre immediately, drop something with Black immediately (or whoever the budget calls for at tha time, but Black would b better) and move out on your own. You have a name in tha rap game, use it. Dr. Dre/Interscope are just stagnating the truth that could be brought to this game (when u think about Hip Hop as a whole). Bishop & Black bring something new and fresh to Hip Hop.
And fuck wit' niggaz on the East Coast too, u get love out here. Homie got tha right flow for our style of instrumentals.
thats right!!!a complete album with bishop and black milk again were dope!! but my thoughts about the other producers or the aftermath affiliates is they are very dope and tracks like
Exclusive (Feat. Marsha Ambrosius) (Prod. By Focus)
Bitches On My Dick (Prod. By Dj Khalil)
Missile Testing (Death To Infidels) (Prod. By Dj Khalil)
Feel On It (Prod. By Focus)
Send A Nigga Home (Feat. Danaun Porter) (Prod by Dj Khalil)
Gorilla Pimpin 5008 (Feat. Warren G, Stat Quo, Busta Rhymes & Ryan C. Fresh) (Prod by Mark Batson & Che' Vicious) i mean you cant say about it they are dope
and the dr dre beats i mean nobody is really know if they are really dre produced beats but they are tight
Hallelujah (Feat. X-Zibit) (Prod. By Dr. Dre)
Grow Up (Prod. By Dr. Dre)
No Stoppin' Carson (Prod. By Dr. Dre)
and im on the liveusestream with mr.parker yesterday and he say bishop is not on aftermath!! interscope or something like that
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also now we're dealing w/ the potential of this Slim The Mobster kat having an Aftermath album before Bishop has a chance to shine unless there's some situation where they're both going to be heavily featured on Detox like Hittman & Snoop were to either of tha Chronics, then that'd be dope cuz Slim is street/hood and all that, whereas Bishop is like a 'make you think' type of rapper like the kats from wu-tang are... 8) that would be the best route to go, instead of Dre shelving the Reformation like he did w/ Hittman & Stat, which were HUGE devastation's to real & true hip-hop, imo!
As of late it looks as though Slim's getting more chances. The D.O.C.'s pushing him and we've seen what happens when The D.O.C. pushes and Dr. Dre produces for an artist. While Bishop Lamont's label situation remains unknown and he's basicly alone.
I have a bad feeling that the Aftermath story is a never-ending cycle. Situation-wise I can see Bishop as the next Hittman and Slim as the next Stat Quo :P.
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also now we're dealing w/ the potential of this Slim The Mobster kat having an Aftermath album before Bishop has a chance to shine unless there's some situation where they're both going to be heavily featured on Detox like Hittman & Snoop were to either of tha Chronics, then that'd be dope cuz Slim is street/hood and all that, whereas Bishop is like a 'make you think' type of rapper like the kats from wu-tang are... 8) that would be the best route to go, instead of Dre shelving the Reformation like he did w/ Hittman & Stat, which were HUGE devastation's to real & true hip-hop, imo!
As of late it looks as though Slim's getting more chances. The D.O.C.'s pushing him and we've seen what happens when The D.O.C. pushes and Dr. Dre produces for an artist. While Bishop Lamont's label situation remains unknown and he's basicly alone.
I have a bad feeling that the Aftermath story is a never-ending cycle. Situation-wise I can see Bishop as the next Hittman and Slim as the next Stat Quo :P.
Neither of them are going anywhere. Apparently Aftermath doesn't push its artists. Dre needs to get his ass out of the studio and start talking about his artists and putting their names out there, and having them feature with the successful rappers he already has.
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at least we get Team America 8)
Is it still the 20th we'll hear it?
i think so, but some other dude in the other topic, said 25th
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at least we get Team America 8)
Is it still the 20th we'll hear it?
i think so, but some other dude in the other topic, said 25th
:(
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at least we get Team America 8)
Is it still the 20th we'll hear it?
i think so, but some other dude in the other topic, said 25th
:(
i wouldn't worry too much about the date, it will drop :)
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at least we get Team America 8)
Is it still the 20th we'll hear it?
i think so, but some other dude in the other topic, said 25th
:(
i wouldn't worry too much about the date, it will drop :)
ya, NOT if Tom Cruise has anything to say about it, lol! j/k!
Ok finally got this Tom Cruise phone call uploaded http://usershare.net/aij0u0... "TEAM AMERICA FUCK YEA!"
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seems like Bishop is already indy. I think dude got dropped. Dude, seem to drop The Reformation little by little once in a while. Hope he releases something, somewhere cause i would still cop his material.
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You know, now that I think about it. Bishop Lamont would've sounded way better over those Relapse instrumentals. That style of production fits Bishop Lamont more than Eminem and the content/sound of those beats fit more into Bishop's style. Too bad we can't get some Bishop Lamont accapella's and Relapse Instrumentals, i'd prove it.
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go cry somewhere else, a lot of people like Bishop's street albums
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Whats funny though is even tho some of u say that u only feelin 2-3 songs or whatever
YOU'RE STILL GONNA BUY THE ALBUM!!!
YET if this was a Jay Rock, Game, Nipsey, Glasses or whoever...you WOULDNT..i mean Game got WRECKED on this site for Camera Phone..and thats 1 song..
niggas aint keepin it consistant..how can u sit there and judge albums, if u buy shit like this just based off a nigga name??
thats why the West aint movin forward..still stuck in the past.
*watch my karma drop*
Why are u tallking about game again?
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He's a game stan.
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I posted in the wrong thread i was supposed to post this in the Snoop album thread
and i mentioned Jay Rock, Glasses and etc too
yet that made me a Game stan?
LMAO i told you, u cant say shit without bein a Game stan..
yet Crooked I, Kurupt, Bishop and Snoop has no stans here right? lmao
and LMAO @ Action callin anybody stan...this dude be riding Bishop, 50 and Eminem like a MUTHAFUCKA
white boy these days kill me hahahaha
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You're a fucking stan while I'm a fan of their music. I more than willingly point out their flaws and critiques. Stans can't accept shit. You're one of them. Go choke on a dick.
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You're a fucking stan while I'm a fan of their music. I more than willingly point out their flaws and critiques. Stans can't accept shit. You're one of them. Go choke on a dick.
ROFL suuuuuure..in yo mind!!!
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Die slow. I ain't responding to your close minded ass again.