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Title: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Jome on November 16, 2009, 05:55:27 PM
Off the new Rakim album:

05. You & I (Feat. Samuel Christian)
Produced By Samuel Christian & J Wells

Turns out Samuel Christian = Shorty aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap

This is the same guy on

The Game - Doctor's Advocate (feat. Busta Rhymes)
The Game - L.A.X. Files
Big Boi feat. Too Short & George Clinton - For Your Sorrows
Knoc-Turn'al - Muzik


He's never credited in the main credits, even though he does a lot of hooks.. and he uses different names, it's almost like he doesn't wanna get his name out there.
"Shorty" isn't the easiest name to Google, either..  ::)

Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Ba
Post by: Blood$ on November 16, 2009, 06:03:21 PM
I thought that was Chauncey Black on "L.A.X. Files" and "Doctor's Advocate"
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: DTG Entertainment on November 16, 2009, 06:06:22 PM
I thought that was Chauncey Black on "L.A.X. Files" and "Doctor's Advocate"

Chauncey Black was on Advocate, but it was Shorty on LAX Files.
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Lunatic on November 16, 2009, 06:08:12 PM
pretty sure it was Shorty on both
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Jome on November 16, 2009, 06:11:22 PM
Hmmm, I thought it was Shortyo on Doctors Advocate because of this thread: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=119931.0

Wikipedia says Chauncey Black though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor%27s_Advocate

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11    "Doctor's Advocate"    Taylor, J. / Smith, T. / Rotem, J. / Young, C. / Goldsmith, D. / C. Hannibal (Vocals)

C.Hannibal = Chauncey Black

I guess Tanner was right.
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Lunatic on November 16, 2009, 06:14:12 PM
Hmmm, I thought it was Shortyo on Doctors Advocate because of this thread: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=119931.0

Wikipedia says Chauncey Black though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor%27s_Advocate

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11    "Doctor's Advocate"    Taylor, J. / Smith, T. / Rotem, J. / Young, C. / Goldsmith, D. / C. Hannibal (Vocals)

C.Hannibal = Chauncey Black

I guess Tanner was right.
well Fuck Wikipedia LOL. I own the album and just checked the booklet. That C. Hannibal name is not on the "doctors advocate" track booklet and in the booklet it says "chorus vocals by shorty"
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Ba
Post by: Blood$ on November 16, 2009, 06:15:56 PM
hmm... when I ripped my copy of Doctor's Advocate to iTunes it automatically said "(Feat. Chauncey Black)" for me, and I also have heard that name somewhere else
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Jome on November 16, 2009, 06:17:02 PM
Yeah, I agree, just did some additional research.

Allmusic
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Composed By  Goldsmith, D./J.R. Rotem/Smith, J./Taylor, J./C. Young


Discogs
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11           Doctor's Advocate     5:03     
                                     Producer - Jonathan "J.R." Rotem
                                    Recorded By - Steve "Steve B." Baughman*
                                    Vocals [Additional] - Busta Rhymes
                                     Vocals [Chorus] - Shorty (2)
                                     Written-By - D. Goldsmith* , J. Rotem* , C. Young* , T. Smith*


Shorty on both of them, then..  :D
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Jome on November 16, 2009, 06:29:02 PM
His Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/sickvikki

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I'm a music man,and a story teller. I have been blessed to work with alot of artist who are amazing at thier craft. You can find my work on such titles as; " Black and white" sound track song title "You" Samuel Christian(me),featuring MosDef. "The transporter" sound track song title "Muzik" Knocturnal featuring Samuel Christian singing the hook."Barbershop2" sound track song title "Can't wait" Sleepy Brown featuring Out kast. "Till your leg start shakig" Sleepy brown, on his latest album entitled "Mr. Brown"." Illumination" Earth Wind and Fire,song title "The One"(i wrote that song) and I also wrote and I am singing this hook , entitled "The Doctors Advocate". Title track of "The Games" album,"The Doctors Advocate" also, you can hear me on "LAX,FILES" I wrote and sang that hook for the "LAX" album. Other places to hear my current works of hooks i wrote and sang, or songs featuring me on the hook are; "SO MANY FACES" J WELLS, "FO YO SORROWS" BIG BOI , "PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS" TASH, "SIR LUSCIOUS LEFT FOOT" BIG BOI, "RESOLUTION" REAKWON, "AIM" RICK ROSS(white sand mixtape), "ALMA MATER" RAKIM(i also produced that track), "THESE PAST DAYS"(that's actually my single, featuring BIG BOI of OUTKAST), ALL THESE TITLES YOU CAN GOOGLE FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE. Thank You for listening..... and please stay tuned for my album coming soon......God Bless...Please visit my music page @

Preliminary discography:

The Game - Doctor's Advocate (feat. Busta Rhymes)
The Game - L.A.X. Files
Big Boi feat. Too Short & George Clinton - For Your Sorrows
Knoc-Turn'al - Muzik
Sleepy Brown feat. Outkast - Can't Wait
Sleepy brown - Till your leg start shaking
Earth Wind and fire - Illumination - The One
J Wells - So Many Faces
Tash - Penny For Your Thoughts
Raekwon - Resolution
Rick Ross - Aim
Rakim - Alma Water
Samuel Christian feat. Big Boi - These Past Days

Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Jaydc on November 16, 2009, 06:58:45 PM
I love this guys vocals
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Lunatic on November 16, 2009, 07:01:37 PM
hm, a single with big boi?
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 16, 2009, 07:16:06 PM
i dig his hook work. 8)
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: K.Dub on November 16, 2009, 07:57:58 PM
I love this guys vocals

This.
He kills those Game tracks, especially LAX Files!
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Meho on November 17, 2009, 05:23:17 AM
I thought he also did that E-40, Snoop & Game joint ?
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Portugoal on November 17, 2009, 05:31:13 AM
It's time for me to form an opinion.

Where's the zipfile? :P
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: RingMan on November 17, 2009, 06:37:29 AM
I thought he also did that E-40, Snoop & Game joint ?
off the Vault

      5  Pain No More  Broadus, Jordan, Rotem ...  4:25
Composed by: Broadus, S. Jordan, Rotem, Stevens, Taylor
Performed by: E Forty, Game, Snoop Dogg

maybe another name :)
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: k1000 on November 17, 2009, 06:46:05 AM
I love this guys vocals

co-sign. also, dont pass on the Tash track ("Penny For Your Thoughts", as mentioned by Jome's post) cos it's pure dopeness.
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Ba
Post by: chunkc85 on November 17, 2009, 08:41:25 AM
hmm... when I ripped my copy of Doctor's Advocate to iTunes it automatically said "(Feat. Chauncey Black)" for me, and I also have heard that name somewhere else
I think he's from flipmode squad according to busta rhymes also busta rhymes calls him C. Black.

Track 8. called Enemy lines from terrace martin's signal flow.

https://www.youtube.com/v/zETVuUDVm_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zETVuUDVm_o)
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Gamestarr on November 17, 2009, 10:38:05 AM
I love this guys vocals

co-sign. also, dont pass on the Tash track ("Penny For Your Thoughts", as mentioned by Jome's post) cos it's pure dopeness.

could you pm a link?
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: k1000 on November 17, 2009, 01:57:56 PM
BTW, props to the thread-starter for making notice that Samuel Christian and Shorty are one single person. i didn't know that. it's still not that obvious when listening to those various tracks.
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Ba
Post by: Blood$ on November 17, 2009, 02:02:19 PM
was he on the alternate version of Clyde Carson's "Doin' That" too? sounds like it's him if that was also him on "Pain No More"
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Ba
Post by: chunkc85 on November 17, 2009, 11:00:16 PM
was he on the alternate version of Clyde Carson's "Doin' That" too? sounds like it's him if that was also him on "Pain No More"
Any1 got that alt version of doin' that? Never heard it or of it.
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Ba
Post by: gio™fugahoo on November 18, 2009, 02:14:10 AM
hmm... when I ripped my copy of Doctor's Advocate to iTunes it automatically said "(Feat. Chauncey Black)" for me, and I also have heard that name somewhere else
I think he's from flipmode squad according to busta rhymes also busta rhymes calls him C. Black.

Track 8. called Enemy lines from terrace martin's signal flow.

https://www.youtube.com/v/zETVuUDVm_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zETVuUDVm_o)

if thats true then he is a former member of blackstreet

Chauncey Black - Everyday is your Birthday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwdV-laeguw&feature=fvw
Title: Re: Shorty (off the Game album) aka Samuel Christian aka Sam Chris aka Johnny Bap
Post by: Portugoal on November 18, 2009, 05:32:08 AM
WHERE'S THE HOOKUP?
 :halo: