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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: teecee on November 19, 2002, 08:12:53 PM
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I know we dont need another Snoop thread, but here it is anyway! Damn, since i dissed the hell out of Jigga and Xzibit for their subpar albums, i gotta do the same for Snoop because this is just appaling! Only Da Game... is worst among Snoop albums, Last meal is at least twice as good as this! Seriously, i have not been more disapponted on a first listen in a long time. I am a big Snoop fan, but ya'll will probably say i am hating or whatever. But seriously, I have been pretty hard on Jay and Xzibit (both of whom piss me off a lot nowadays) so i gotta do it to my man Snoop, cuz i cant believe he came with an album like this!
Of course, i will give this album many listens as SNoop is my favourite rapper behind Ras and Nas.....and i am sure the album will grow on me. However, i can't remember an album since Nastradamus that is so bad on first listen! I mean, seven or 8 nice songs and some serious shit besides that! The bad thing is, Snoop sounds nice for the most part, but its the beats! And the wackass choruses!
On a side note, Beautiful is actually TIGHT, and i never like Neptunes songs for the most part....and the premo joints are up there as the best songs on the album. Other than that, terribly disappinted, probably because the only other dope songs are ones i've already heard.
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Then shame on you for downloading the songs so far in advance.
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shiiyyyeet... this is breakin my heart, man. But fuck it, I'm still coppin the album ;D
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I know we dont need another Snoop thread, but here it is anyway! Damn, since i dissed the hell out of Jigga and Xzibit for their subpar albums, i gotta do the same for Snoop because this is just appaling! Only Da Game... is worst among Snoop albums, Last meal is at least twice as good as this! Seriously, i have not been more disapponted on a first listen in a long time. I am a big Snoop fan, but ya'll will probably say i am hating or whatever. But seriously, I have been pretty hard on Jay and Xzibit (both of whom piss me off a lot nowadays) so i gotta do it to my man Snoop, cuz i cant believe he came with an album like this!
Of course, i will give this album many listens as SNoop is my favourite rapper behind Ras and Nas.....and i am sure the album will grow on me. However, i can't remember an album since Nastradamus that is so bad on first listen! I mean, seven or 8 nice songs and some serious shit besides that! The bad thing is, Snoop sounds nice for the most part, but its the beats! And the wackass choruses!
On a side note, Beautiful is actually TIGHT, and i never like Neptunes songs for the most part....and the premo joints are up there as the best songs on the album. Other than that, terribly disappinted, probably because the only other dope songs are ones i've already heard.
On point.
I was extremely disappointed with this, I expected it to be tighter than the advances, but the advances was near classic compared to the final version.
If somebody blamed Xzibit for having Eastcoast-beats, then I suggest that they don't listen to this CD, because it's Eastcoast overload!!
If I stretch it a lil, I might say that there is 3-4 tight tracks on this CD, and a few tolerable ones.
This will be the first Snoop-CD that I don't buy OG.
I will rather take 3-4 of the tracks of this, and mix it with 12-15 of the tracks from the advances, and put it on a CD-R.
Maybe I will buy it if it's on sale or sumthin.
And I hating neither, people on mIRC is saying the same.
* BAD_SCE changes topic to '....::: FUCK SNOOP DOGG DONT BUY HIS CD DONT LISTEN TO HIM DONT EVEN LOOK IN HIS DIRECTION'
* mike|OG is gonna bump doggystyle until he's 90
<mike|OG> thats 4 real
<mike|OG> lol
<mike|OG> fuck this crap
<LiL|Jome> where the hell is Warren G ????
<mike|OG> he's not on it
<mike|OG> this is wackizzle
<Nate|Rev> glad he didn't call it Doggystyle 2
<mike|OG> yea, but he probably thinks its a tight album
Sums it up..
No Dre, No Warren G, No Tray Deee, No Daz, No etc..
>:(
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damn I have a feeling that I am gonna be very disapointed with this album
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i diss agree this cd is the best snoop since doggystyle,,,,i really like every song, i cant find anything wrong wit it
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probably because the only other dope songs are ones i've already heard.
this is the problem of course were gonna be dissipionted with this when we have heard so many good songs from the promo that didn't make it, and some of the tightest songs on the cd are ones we already have heard........................i mean think about how many though pimp slap was so tight when it fisrt hit, what about long beach to brick city ect if you heard the whole thing for the first time you'd probably feel it alot more
ps i haven't heard it but my guess is that the first listen won't be great for me, but i will be able to pop it in and bump and like the songs later on
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i agree teecee
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Sums it up..
No Dre, No Warren G, No Tray Deee, No Daz, No etc..
>:(
Oh but jome, there is warren g on there, there is!
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Dont get me wrong, i will buy the cd because their are some songs i really like, and i almost always enjoy Snoop unlike others.........and King Suge, i never actually dloaded the cd, i've been listening on a website. But i get your point buddy :)
WIth me, i have NEVER been disapponted with a SNoop album except Da Game......to me, SNoop always has enough high-end cuts that the filler doesn't really affect what i think. But this time their is no Hennesey and Buddha, Ready to RIde, Go Away, or Lay LOW. still some very nice songs, but i gotta hold out hope that Snoop has better music in him then this, and more importantly, a better ear for what is hot and what people wanna hear. Cuz to me, he worked with the East because he thought that is what is hot right now, yet it may backfire on him as he coulda made a MUCH better album with just Warren, Daz and Soopafly. I get his point about not needing Dre, but what about the others? Its not a case of not needing, its maybe a case of thinking he is above those guys a bit right now. In actuality, the Neptunes joints are HOT, which i cant believe cuz i hate the Neptunes and of course the Premo joints are top notch (I dont get how one of my fav. producers hitek doesnt hook SNoop up with even one dope beat though) imagine the two neptunes joints and the premo joints mixed in with some Warren beats, some Quik, daz, LT hutton, and a few other notable westcoast producers! Now you have made an album where the eastcoast beats actually stand out and you still keep the westcoast flavour and make everybody happy. Maybe the problem is Snoop just doesn't have a good ear for what sounds good...
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^^ Or maybe the problem is your ear... The songs I've heard from the album (I haven't listened to the new stuff) are all good. I heard "Batman and Robin" that B put up on wckillaz, and it's amazing, I think. I honestly feel that his new stuff is on the level of his doggystyle stuff. Snoop's been tight as hell since around the time Last Meal dropped. Pretty much every verse he spits anymore is dope as hell, and he's really increased lyrically, he's much more diverse now... he's the only rapper doing funk anymore; I could go on and on on why he's my favorite rapper. It comes down to everybody's got a different opinion... I like his new stuff as much as his old stuff, but you prefer his old stuff. It's all good...
Peace~
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like i posted on the 8 days left thread...
album is a big dissapointment like guy on top said this shit was that snoop aint shit without dre....damn this album is just what it is.....a snoop album without the typical 3 dre bangers...imagine top dogg without bitch please, just dippin, and buck em.....now imagine Tha last meal without lay Low and hennesey N Buddah...gettin the point? like my boy hittman2001 from the board said this is like Da Game but atleast Da Game had Still A G Thang in it....man this is starting to sound like his worst album to me....and im a huge snoop fan....damn it....im mad at snoop for not doing something with Dre....atleast one damn track....
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The slim, trim MC promises to never leave the West Coast alone on his new project, which drops on November 26.
"My main objective right now is to make the hottest record on the market when November hits," Snoop said a few weeks ago on the set of his video for "From the Chuuch to the Palace." "The West Coast rap game is sort of invisible right now. They need me to come back home and bring it back home. I'm'a do everything to make sure everything looks good and sounds good and feels good."
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like i posted on the 8 days left thread...
album is a big dissapointment like guy on top said this shit was that snoop aint shit without dre....damn this album is just what it is.....a snoop album without the typical 3 dre bangers...imagine top dogg without bitch please, just dippin, and buck em.....now imagine Tha last meal without lay Low and hennesey N Buddah...gettin the point? like my boy hittman2001 from the board said this is like Da Game but atleast Da Game had Still A G Thang in it....man this is starting to sound like his worst album to me....and im a huge snoop fan....damn it....im mad at snoop for not doing something with Dre....atleast one damn track....
TOP DOGG is a fuckin tight album even without just dippin and buck em, the 2 dj quick produced tracks (hit rocks and doin too much) are off the hook. Top dogg is the most west coast influenced snoop dogg album after doggystyle.
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TOP DOGG is a fuckin tight album even without just dippin and buck em, the 2 dj quick produced tracks (hit rocks and doin too much) are off the hook. Top dogg is the most west coast influenced snoop dogg album after doggystyle.
It's DJ QUIK
No c...
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damn I have a feeling that I am gonna be very disapointed with this album
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I honest to God think this CD is good. I think its great actually. I loved the promos and I love this ish. I just listened to it from beginning to end a few minutes ago and I just found myself singin a long and head bobbin to every song. Its hot ish.
Also, its really odd that THIS board who is all on Snoops dick is hating on this album, while SOHH is giving the album overall very high marks. Muy interesante.
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TOP DOGG is a fuckin tight album even without just dippin and buck em, the 2 dj quick produced tracks (hit rocks and doin too much) are off the hook. Top dogg is the most west coast influenced snoop dogg album after doggystyle.
It's DJ QUIK
No c...
Suarry if i've hurt your boy
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no tray deee?...no daz?...wack
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this album is crap!!! worst snoop album!!! but hey what does he care cause its gonna sell out in the east coast and he will get paid...you guys think he cares about his true fans? HELL NO!!! Wack beats
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warren g is listed on the track........but i dont hear him on there..........so is he on there or not?????? and honestly........no daz, no warren g, no tray dee, no dre...........wack!!
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dre said it before "I can't do my thang without snoop, and snoop cant do his thang without me"!.................seems true to me!!!
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Yo Trauma, i have always loved SNoop, i defended Doggfather to the fullest and i loved the eastsidaz shit, etc etc. But i really think the new shit is below his standards.....peace
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Oh ya, i dont get why Warren isnt on there, as the Source add says the album ft. 213!?
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Aww crap. Now y'all got me so not-hyped. But these kinds o' threds were posted when y'all had your first listens of Man vs. Machine and I actually liked the album. (Not classic or anything, but good.) Still, there's always Ghetto Heisman. (HOW FUCKIN' LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE FOR THE FUCKIN' POST OFFICE TO GET THAT RECORD HERE?!?!?!)
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OK OK OK, I couldnt resist and had to head over to VH1 and had to listen a few (like 3 or 4) 30 secs samples :-[ :-[ :-[ :'(
My opinion. Those tracks Ive heard so far, I like them, I think they are goood. Very different. I think the problem with you guys is that you expected another Doggystyle, the same ole gangsta shit and the classic west coast beats we all love. Hell yea who didnt. But I think thats the good thing about it, he changed his style again and came with somthing completely different and new. He's reppin the west in his own way. I cant hate on this album cause it has alot of dope and original tracks. ANd seriously, the audience (except wcc) is tired of that west coast Gangsta shit from 93, that stuff is not popular anymore so he's gotta come with new things and I gotta give him props for that. It reminds me of the Last Meal cause it wasnt west coast to the fullest, but it was fresh, so give it some time
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and warren g is the one talkin at the beginning of LOng Beach 2 Brickcity. Listen Closely
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The biggest issue I have with this, is how good it COULD have been, with all the tracks he had laying around.
I can't believe that these tracks didn't make the album:
Twenty Minutes II feat. Goldie Loc
Whatever feat. E-White
Fo real produced by Meech Wells (Ain't that right Myrealname?)
It's the D.O.G. feat. E-White (They threw this away on some other CD)
Pimp On feat. Eastsidaz
Add a Eastsidaz-track or two, and Bad Azz, Warren G & Daz instead of Ludacris & Jay-Z, and 3 Dre-cuts, and this could have been SO good.
And why oh why doesn't he rap over the "The boss would like to see ya"-beat??
I'm usually a fan of both Jay-Z & Ludacris, but they do NOT belong on a Snoop-cd for the sake of sales!! (Even if Ludacris came nice)
Redman was ok too, but for a dude who has been a Redman-fan for several years and buys his albums, he really didn't impress me on this one.
I admit to be defending Neptunes, but NOT on a Snoop-CD.
They're supposed to produce for Noreaga, Jay-Z & Clipse.
I think Neptunes directly POLUTED this CD, and their work on Jay-Z's album was also sub-par. I think I've heard 90% of all Neptunes-production, but this is the worst in a long while.
Premier is dope, JellyRoll is aight, but Neptunes doesn't belong on a Snoop-CD.
And King-Suge: No wonder they like this album on SOHH, as this album is made for the Eastcoast.
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WHATEVER is not featuring E-White 1°
That track is wack to me and i'm happy is not on the album,but the others listed are tight as fuck and like the ones on the last meal promo,are better than the ones on the final version.
ITs the d.o.g. is feat. bishop don juan
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Y'all fools are funny as hell, how the hell you gonna judge a album listening to it through computer speakers? But I dont know what yall what expecting, It seems like ya'll mad cuzz yall already herd most of it, but what does that have to do with it being a good album? Ya'll mad cuzz trey dee, daz and blah blah blah aint on there but its not their album. If you wanna hear Trey Dee go get the general list. If you wanna hear Daz go get life I lead. If you wanna some snoop get paid the cost.
Whats worse is the ones who is letting other people make they mind up for them. talking about "I dont think Im going to like it" dont let someone else make they mind up for you, Make your own decission. Wait till you hear the CD with some heavy bass behind it and and you hear all the sounds in the beats than make up your mind if its wack or if its tight.
and teceee you said you like 8 songs, than thats a good album, if look at it doggystyle had 12 good songs, top dogg had about 5, last meal had about 4, so you cant say it's the worst, I dont care what nobody says this is his best CD besides Doggystyle. BET said it's his best but I dont agree with that. It kinda reminds me of what OUTKAST did in the south with all that different type of music, of course I dont feel every joint on the album, but I dont feel every song on just about any album except for a few.
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My opinion. Those tracks Ive heard so far, I like them, I think they are goood. Very different. I think the problem with you guys is that you expected another Doggystyle, the same ole gangsta shit and the classic west coast beats we all love. Hell yea who didnt. But I think thats the good thing about it, he changed his style again and came with somthing completely different and new. He's reppin the west in his own way. I cant hate on this album cause it has alot of dope and original tracks. ANd seriously, the audience (except wcc) is tired of that west coast Gangsta shit from 93, that stuff is not popular anymore so he's gotta come with new things and I gotta give him props for that. It reminds me of the Last Meal cause it wasnt west coast to the fullest, but it was fresh, so give it some time
I feel the same way
& alot of people don't like it because they already heard songs like "ballin" "bossplaya" "paperd'up" ...., whats wrong with those tracks ??? I really have no idea, they r tight
Its nice album 4/5, better than last meal imo
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I can't believe people are hating on this CD...This album is better than all his other albums except for Doggystyle and Doggfather...Sure Snoop tried some different shit on this album, most notably no Dre, but even though there are no standout tracks like HennesseynBuddah or Bitch Please I think overall this album is a solid 4/5...My only complaint is that I would have liked to hear Daz on at least one cut and maybe cut the songs down to 15 or so...
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BALLIN is fuckin huge to me!
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DNARROW: i got my computer connected to my system which has HUGE sound, not computer speakers! also, for meal Last meal had way more that 4 good tracks, and the good tracks were GREAT, while the good tracks on this are just pretty good. THere is nothing wrong with a lot of tracks, but i have a feeling others will see this a little differently once the album soaks in a little. I'm not gonna listen again until i buy the album, then i wll give it a long time as i do with every Snoop release...
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I heard just two tracks so far and to tell u the truth ii really love the Snoop delivers is lyrics on them,paper'd up and chuuch to da palace.It's like he's really focusing on his flow nowadayz.To jugde by those two tracks the album will be cracking
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what do 'ya all have against the new snoop album??? ok, i know it isn't as good as his first albums was, but it isn't that bad! i heared some songs of it till now and i gotta say, that i like it more, then some oter snoop albums...
even if he hasn't that good features on this album!
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I know we dont need another Snoop thread, but here it is anyway! Damn, since i dissed the hell out of Jigga and Xzibit for their subpar albums, i gotta do the same for Snoop because this is just appaling! Only Da Game... is worst among Snoop albums, Last meal is at least twice as good as this! Seriously, i have not been more disapponted on a first listen in a long time. I am a big Snoop fan, but ya'll will probably say i am hating or whatever. But seriously, I have been pretty hard on Jay and Xzibit (both of whom piss me off a lot nowadays) so i gotta do it to my man Snoop, cuz i cant believe he came with an album like this!
Of course, i will give this album many listens as SNoop is my favourite rapper behind Ras and Nas.....and i am sure the album will grow on me. However, i can't remember an album since Nastradamus that is so bad on first listen! I mean, seven or 8 nice songs and some serious shit besides that! The bad thing is, Snoop sounds nice for the most part, but its the beats! And the wackass choruses!
On a side note, Beautiful is actually TIGHT, and i never like Neptunes songs for the most part....and the premo joints are up there as the best songs on the album. Other than that, terribly disappinted, probably because the only other dope songs are ones i've already heard.
On point.
I was extremely disappointed with this, I expected it to be tighter than the advances, but the advances was near classic compared to the final version.
If somebody blamed Xzibit for having Eastcoast-beats, then I suggest that they don't listen to this CD, because it's Eastcoast overload!!
If I stretch it a lil, I might say that there is 3-4 tight tracks on this CD, and a few tolerable ones.
This will be the first Snoop-CD that I don't buy OG.
I will rather take 3-4 of the tracks of this, and mix it with 12-15 of the tracks from the advances, and put it on a CD-R.
Maybe I will buy it if it's on sale or sumthin.
And I hating neither, people on mIRC is saying the same.
* BAD_SCE changes topic to '....::: FUCK SNOOP DOGG DONT BUY HIS CD DONT LISTEN TO HIM DONT EVEN LOOK IN HIS DIRECTION'
* mike|OG is gonna bump doggystyle until he's 90
<mike|OG> thats 4 real
<mike|OG> lol
<mike|OG> fuck this crap
<LiL|Jome> where the hell is Warren G ????
<mike|OG> he's not on it
<mike|OG> this is wackizzle
<Nate|Rev> glad he didn't call it Doggystyle 2
<mike|OG> yea, but he probably thinks its a tight album
Sums it up..
No Dre, No Warren G, No Tray Deee, No Daz, No etc..
>:(
jome i aint tryna judge or or anything but like i was expecting this off u man, u was kool with snoop until he dissed xzibit, then suddenly u start hating him, u should support westcoast music and buy his shit, im my opinion. i mean even if u was really feelin this album, would probably still wouldnt buy it kuz of what happened with him n xzibit. and i havent heard snoops album yet but i find it hard to believe his album sounds more eastkoast than xzibits...............kuz heres the difference between them at this stage im my opinion.......n you already know xzibits one of my favourite rappers so like i dont hate on him.....but snoops sounds westcoast on any beat, its jus what snoop is but xzibit needs a good westcoast soundin beat to rock it westcoast style, ya feel what im sayin? u probably dont agree but ya get what im sayin right? they both 2 of my fav rappers but like xzibits gonna have to bring up sum major heat on his next album after this but like i havent heard snoops album so i'll get back to ya with my opinions on that but like seriously man..........u hate the album that much?
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to me, the last meal is better than this
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Y'all fools are funny as hell, how the hell you gonna judge a album listening to it through computer speakers? But I dont know what yall what expecting, It seems like ya'll mad cuzz yall already herd most of it, but what does that have to do with it being a good album? Ya'll mad cuzz trey dee, daz and blah blah blah aint on there but its not their album. If you wanna hear Trey Dee go get the general list. If you wanna hear Daz go get life I lead. If you wanna some snoop get paid the cost.
^^^read this again yall it's very on piont..............just cause we already heard most of the tight songs doesn't mean you still can't bump them, its your own fault if you listened to them already
THIS IS OUR PROBLEM -- we are such big fans that we hear everything snoop makes so we get all dissipionted if he leaves a song or two off that we liked alot...........and because there is no dre prod. we autamatically think damn we missed out on three tight tracks which we probably did, but we can't think of things in those terms we have to enjoy the album for what it is
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i knew it...and have been saying it ever since i saw the production list...and know after listening to it...damn it does sick...i was hoping i would be wrong...but this is almost his worst album..(the game is really bad)....only people who are taking it in the ass from snoop will think this one is any good...and i though the last meal was bad
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jome i aint tryna judge or or anything but like i was expecting this off u man, u was kool with snoop until he dissed xzibit, then suddenly u start hating him, u should support westcoast music and buy his shit, im my opinion. i mean even if u was really feelin this album, would probably still wouldnt buy it kuz of what happened with him n xzibit. and i havent heard snoops album yet but i find it hard to believe his album sounds more eastkoast than xzibits...............kuz heres the difference between them at this stage im my opinion.......n you already know xzibits one of my favourite rappers so like i dont hate on him.....but snoops sounds westcoast on any beat, its jus what snoop is but xzibit needs a good westcoast soundin beat to rock it westcoast style, ya feel what im sayin? u probably dont agree but ya get what im sayin right? they both 2 of my fav rappers but like xzibits gonna have to bring up sum major heat on his next album after this but like i havent heard snoops album so i'll get back to ya with my opinions on that but like seriously man..........u hate the album that much?
Damn man, you're funny.
I could care less if Snoop threw one line towards Xzibit, and if you read my 10 latests post on Snoop Dogg, do I mention Xzibit at all?
Did I "suddenly" start hating on him? NO, I didn't. I don't hate him at all, but I hate his new commercialized Eastcoast-sound.
It sounds like the albums wasn't made for Snoop, but some random Eastcoast-rapper.
Try reading my previous post again, or the thread I made about how could PTCTBTB COULD have been..
Real reasons, real opinions.. NOTHING to do with Xzibit!! NOTHING!!
The biggest issue of them all, is that there is no Dre on the album. NO FUCKING DRE ON A SNOOP-ALBUM!!
I thought it was just a rumour when I first heard it, but it was the sad truth.
If you can tell me that Snoop sounds Westcoast on this CD, I'll give you a Jay-Z CD, and axe you to find Westcoast on that one too.
Xzibit's CD had a EastCoast-sound, YES, but this takes the prize fa sho.
Even Jay-Z's latest sounded more Westcoast than this.
This is only one notch better than Da Game, maybe 2.
NLTP & Last Meal was fucking awesome compared to this..
When Da Game dropped, I had the feeling that he sold his soul to the South.
This album gives me the feeling that he appointed Neptunes as his personal manager.
I aint hating, because there was actually 2-4 dope joints, and some tolerable ones, but the total is thumbs down.
I suggest you listen to the album, then give me some feedback ;D
And point out the remotely Westcoast-tracks to me please..
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Aight Lyrical_G, I changed my sig. and to be honest I haven't heard "Man vs. Machine" in the last 15 days.
You convinced yet?? LoL!!
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this album is better then last meal..thats for sure...
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man yall hating cause he did a world wide album
wes eas south beats not straigh west coast
we need to stop being diveded by coasts
its all hip hop shit and snoops shit is funky
this album is the shit smoke weed to it and see wha i
mean