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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Shallow on December 06, 2009, 02:13:52 PM
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Except for my Bills, who deserve to be out of the race, the other three teams are in a dead heat. Pats are only 1 game up and have to win out to tie the record they had last year with Matt Cassel, they can't win on the road and have a very hard time dealing with second have adjustments made by other teams. Then the Jets and Fins are tied at 6-6 and both could win out. Fins have an easy run and Jets have Indy and Cinci but those games come after both teams should be clinched for home field and a bye. Pats have Car, Buf, Jack and then close it out in Houston. I say they go 3-1 in their lucky with the season closer in Houston doing them in. I predicted early that Buffalo would get vengeance on them in December and I still think that can happen, but I figure the Pats have to win at least 1 game this season in the opponents stadium and if it was between Buf and Hou I'd pick they win in Buffalo. But if the Bills commit to the power run with Lynch and their defense is hungry and angry enough they could squeeze that one out.
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Its going to be interesting.Seems the east will be like last season,with the division up for grabs but the wildecard not.
Jets I hope can win out but cinci and indy will be tough.Their running game has been solid all season and so has the defesen.If sanchez can limit the rookie mistakes then they have a slight chance.Losing four games on the last play has been pretty heartbreaking.Jets could easily have a much better record.
Patriots have been fairly pedestrian all year and I dont even think they deserve the record they have now.Other then the game against the titans who they wiped the floor with and had me thinking they were fully back.Their defense has been pretty weak all season.
I honestly thought the dolphins season last year was a total fluke and theyd be horrid this season.Then when they lost chad i thought they were done,then when they lost ronnie brown i thought for sure they were done but theyve shown a ton of heart and determination.I wouldnt be shocked if they steal the division again
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Its going to be interesting.Seems the east will be like last season,with the division up for grabs but the wildecard not.
Jets I hope can win out but cinci and indy will be tough.Their running game has been solid all season and so has the defesen.If sanchez can limit the rookie mistakes then they have a slight chance.Losing four games on the last play has been pretty heartbreaking.Jets could easily have a much better record.
Patriots have been fairly pedestrian all year and I dont even think they deserve the record they have now.Other then the game against the titans who they wiped the floor with and had me thinking they were fully back.Their defense has been pretty weak all season.
I honestly thought the dolphins season last year was a total fluke and theyd be horrid this season.Then when they lost chad i thought they were done,then when they lost ronnie brown i thought for sure they were done but theyve shown a ton of heart and determination.I wouldnt be shocked if they steal the division again
I called Henne and eventual success when he was drafted and I call a system more important than a player when it comes to most players. But if you told me that the Dolphins would lose Chad and Ronnie mid season and still be a game back of the division lead and beat the Pats I'd have called you crazy. Now, they have the best shot at running the table from here out, but they need one loss by the Pats and I think that will happen. So all Miami needs to do is win. The Titans will be their toughest game I think.
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^success?
i think Chad Henne is like 2/30 when throwing a ball more than 20 yards lol.
anyway, the Jets are winning this division!
but the Pats got the Jags next week. :-X
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^success?
i think Chad Henne is like 2/30 when throwing a ball more than 20 yards lol.
anyway, the Jets are winning this division!
but the Pats got the Jags next week. :-X
Hes a rookie.No rookie qbs have impressive numbers.All that matters in the end is wins,and hes getting those wins.
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^success?
i think Chad Henne is like 2/30 when throwing a ball more than 20 yards lol.
anyway, the Jets are winning this division!
but the Pats got the Jags next week. :-X
Hes a rookie.No rookie qbs have impressive numbers.All that matters in the end is wins,and hes getting those wins.
he's better than Pennington; i'll give him that.
but this team is doomed without Brown; that Wildcat is what wins them games.
but impressive win today.
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Henny >> Sanchez so far. Both have had dec rookie years but Henny hasnt made as many costly mistakes as Sanchez has to screw his team over.
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Henny >> Sanchez so far. Both have had dec rookie years but Henny hasnt made as many costly mistakes as Sanchez has to screw his team over.
different offenses though.
i agree Henne has been the better QB, but before Ronnie Brown was injured, the entire offense was run, run, run & hopefully Henne wouldn't turn the ball over.
now we are going to see a more fundemental team, with a bigger mix of pass & after today, i was impressed.
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^success?
i think Chad Henne is like 2/30 when throwing a ball more than 20 yards lol.
anyway, the Jets are winning this division!
but the Pats got the Jags next week. :-X
I didn't call him a current success. I called him an eventual success. What I meant by it was I predicted him to become a great QB after learning from Chad, but I didn't think 1.5 years would do it and despite that the Dolphins are winning with him and their second RB.
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^success?
i think Chad Henne is like 2/30 when throwing a ball more than 20 yards lol.
anyway, the Jets are winning this division!
but the Pats got the Jags next week. :-X
I didn't call him a current success. I called him an eventual success. What I meant by it was I predicted him to become a great QB after learning from Chad, but I didn't think 1.5 years would do it and despite that the Dolphins are winning with him and their second RB.
i gotcha, boss.
boy's got a gun.
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^success?
i think Chad Henne is like 2/30 when throwing a ball more than 20 yards lol.
anyway, the Jets are winning this division!
but the Pats got the Jags next week. :-X
Hes a rookie.No rookie qbs have impressive numbers.All that matters in the end is wins,and hes getting those wins.
he's better than Pennington; i'll give him that.
but this team is doomed without Brown; that Wildcat is what wins them games.
but impressive win today.
They barely run the wildcat anymore, even before Ronnie Brown went down.
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I hate to beat a dead horse, actually in this case I love it, but I said long ago that when the pressure is on and the Pats are losing, not tied, during last minute drives, Tom Brady buckles. And this was just one more example of Tom Brady making stupid decisions in the face of failure. You get him worried and he isn't even mediocre compared to the rest. INT against the Colts in 06. 3 stupid bomb plays against the Giants with 3 TOs, and today what was he thinking making that throw. What was it? Second down, down by 1 point? People rag on Peyton for it but when Brady does it, even worse, it gets ignored. But all those clutch wins in the last minute they rave about were tie games and he had the ball last. When you can afford to be patient and you are patient. When you can't, you have to be amazing, and Tom Terrific isn't.
Respond anyway you want Cham. You won't bring me down from this high.
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yeah that was a fucking brutal pass. There was no NE WR in sight lol. Wtf was he thinking
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I hate to beat a dead horse, actually in this case I love it, but I said long ago that when the pressure is on and the Pats are losing, not tied, during last minute drives, Tom Brady buckles. And this was just one more example of Tom Brady making stupid decisions in the face of failure. You get him worried and he isn't even mediocre compared to the rest. INT against the Colts in 06. 3 stupid bomb plays against the Giants with 3 TOs, and today what was he thinking making that throw. What was it? Second down, down by 1 point? People rag on Peyton for it but when Brady does it, even worse, it gets ignored. But all those clutch wins in the last minute they rave about were tie games and he had the ball last. When you can afford to be patient and you are patient. When you can't, you have to be amazing, and Tom Terrific isn't.
Respond anyway you want Cham. You won't bring me down from this high.
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all the response nessesary for that.
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lol too true, how many does manning have on all those great teams he has been on? O ya 1.
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lol yea n I like how shallow points out all these things brady has done wrong to lose games, go back n find what Manning has done to lose games u fool. U act like Brady is the only one to make a bad play. Ur analysis and picking out shit is completely one sided its funny. Fact is Brady must have done some pretty good things to lead his team to 3 superbowls while manning had great teams an just as great coach and only has 1 superbowl. Manning is the definition of a playoff choker. Fact is he underperforms when he needs to the most.
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lol yea n I like how shallow points out all these things brady has done wrong to lose games, go back n find what Manning has done to lose games u fool. U act like Brady is the only one to make a bad play. Ur analysis and picking out shit is completely one sided its funny. Fact is Brady must have done some pretty good things to lead his team to 3 superbowls while manning had great teams an just as great coach and only has 1 superbowl. Manning is the definition of a playoff choker. Fact is he underperforms when he needs to the most.
I've pointed out every bad throw by Manning from this season to every season before. I don't make excuses for bad decisions. But he never choked like Brady has. Brady in recent years has been playing with the lead or at least a tie and has found ways not to score. This is going back to the 05 year against Denver. The second they started believing he was Joe Montana and started letting him be creative is the second they stopped winning championships. Brady was at his best when he didn't have to be that good. Screen pass, screen pass, screen pass, screen pass fake stand in the pocket, hit the wide open guy. It was easy. Just like it was easy for Quinn at Notre Dame, for Cassel last year, and Kyle Orton this year. Put Brady in a spread and make him make tough trows by applying pressure and he fucks up way worse than Manning ever could.
Manning's chokes came in games where the opponent took and early lead and took the Indy run away an then ran down the throats of the small Indy D. The very fact that Indy is built around taking the lead should be proof that it depends more on QB play than NE. The current Pats can no longer rely on defensive three and outs and it's killing them. Brees, Warner, and Favre would all have much greater success with the current Pats than Brady is having.
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The fact is all ur arguments are "if" this had happened and "if" they had played this team and "if" so and so was the qb they would be better. The fact is those arent good arguments and show no proof of anything. 3 rings is proof, Manning under performing in the playoffs is proof. So you can say all the fuckin gibberish you want about "ifs" but that dont mean shit in the real world until that shit actually happens. I aint sayin Manning aint better then Brady but ur Brady hate and tryin to pick him apart is so fuckin retarded especially when you ur arguments revolve about what you think would happen in certain situations.
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lol yea n I like how shallow points out all these things brady has done wrong to lose games, go back n find what Manning has done to lose games u fool. U act like Brady is the only one to make a bad play. Ur analysis and picking out shit is completely one sided its funny. Fact is Brady must have done some pretty good things to lead his team to 3 superbowls while manning had great teams an just as great coach and only has 1 superbowl. Manning is the definition of a playoff choker. Fact is he underperforms when he needs to the most.
I've pointed out every bad throw by Manning from this season to every season before. I don't make excuses for bad decisions. But he never choked like Brady has. Brady in recent years has been playing with the lead or at least a tie and has found ways not to score. This is going back to the 05 year against Denver. The second they started believing he was Joe Montana and started letting him be creative is the second they stopped winning championships. Brady was at his best when he didn't have to be that good. Screen pass, screen pass, screen pass, screen pass fake stand in the pocket, hit the wide open guy. It was easy. Just like it was easy for Quinn at Notre Dame, for Cassel last year, and Kyle Orton this year. Put Brady in a spread and make him make tough trows by applying pressure and he fucks up way worse than Manning ever could.
Manning's chokes came in games where the opponent took and early lead and took the Indy run away an then ran down the throats of the small Indy D. The very fact that Indy is built around taking the lead should be proof that it depends more on QB play than NE. The current Pats can no longer rely on defensive three and outs and it's killing them. Brees, Warner, and Favre would all have much greater success with the current Pats than Brady is having.
but...
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i'll take losses in the regular season opposed to losses in the playoffs.
losing the Superbowl to the Giants (which i will call a FLUKE forever) is the only thing holding Tom Brady from the unanimous greatest season ever.
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I think people use bradys rings as the only thing to defend him.Brady didnt win those rings,his team did.
In comparison to say hockey,the goalie is an important position like the qb in football.Chris osgood has won how many rings with the red wings now?So does that make him the best goalie in the league and one of the best ever?Not a fucking a chance.
Brady with any other team doesnt win a single ring.Most over rated quarter back of all time.
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lol i love when ppl say shit like the team won it not the qb, no shit idiot. Has a shitty team ever won the superbowl, no. The whole point of winning it is the best TEAMS get there to win it, not some chumps that get lucky all season. The fact is 100's of analysts and people that play football and been it around football for years say Brady is one of the best. So I think Ill go with them and the facts that show Brady is good lol, not some dude that probably thinks Sanchez is one of the best in the league, and some other that fully admitting to hating brady with a passion that he loses sleep when brady wins and cums in his pants when he fails.....
peyton manning career rating 95.3
tom brady 93.3
circa 2008
Peyton Manning's lifetime playoff stats throwing to Marvin Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Edge/Addai:
21 TD's, 17 INT
Tom Brady's lifetime playoff stats throwing mostly to David Givens, David Patten, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, and Jabar Gaffney:
25 TD's, 12 INT
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I think people use bradys rings as the only thing to defend him.Brady didnt win those rings,his team did.
In comparison to say hockey,the goalie is an important position like the qb in football.Chris osgood has won how many rings with the red wings now?So does that make him the best goalie in the league and one of the best ever?Not a fucking a chance.
Brady with any other team doesnt win a single ring.Most over rated quarter back of all time.
well then people need to stop making it out like Peyton wins games all by his lonesome.
i mean, Brady has two game winning drives in the Superbowl; the QB position will forever get the glory & title of "leading" those drives.
& this on-going argument of Brady not winning anywhere else is interesting & ridiculous.
what team would Peyton strive on besides a top contender? the Saints? Pats? Vikings? Chargers? those are the only teams i see him doing good on if you could place him any other teams in the NFL & they are fine without him; but i could see Brady winning on those teams too, judging by his ACTUAL stats & not my personal opinion of hate towards the man.
the only average team i could see Peyton going on & making them a strong contender is the Jets.
but regardless where he went, STATS & games that ACTUALLY happened, he cannot win in the playoffs, unless the Pats D choke on him in the playoffs & then get the mighty Bears in the Superbowl lol.
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both are superbowl championship teams
its hard to argue who is better but Colts are this year
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lol i love when ppl say shit like the team won it not the qb, no shit idiot. Has a shitty team ever won the superbowl, no. The whole point of winning it is the best TEAMS get there to win it, not some chumps that get lucky all season. The fact is 100's of analysts and people that play football and been it around football for years say Brady is one of the best. So I think Ill go with them and the facts that show Brady is good lol, not some dude that probably thinks Sanchez is one of the best in the league, and some other that fully admitting to hating brady with a passion that he loses sleep when brady wins and cums in his pants when he fails.....
peyton manning career rating 95.3
tom brady 93.3
circa 2008
Peyton Manning's lifetime playoff stats throwing to Marvin Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Edge/Addai:
21 TD's, 17 INT
Tom Brady's lifetime playoff stats throwing mostly to David Givens, David Patten, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, and Jabar Gaffney:
25 TD's, 12 INT
I like how you conveniently leave randy moss and wes welkers name out out of bradys receivers to make it seem hes working with pedestrian wide receivers. ::)
Brady is good but hes nowhere near elite and nowhere near one of the best to every do it.
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I think people use bradys rings as the only thing to defend him.Brady didnt win those rings,his team did.
In comparison to say hockey,the goalie is an important position like the qb in football.Chris osgood has won how many rings with the red wings now?So does that make him the best goalie in the league and one of the best ever?Not a fucking a chance.
Brady with any other team doesnt win a single ring.Most over rated quarter back of all time.
well then people need to stop making it out like Peyton wins games all by his lonesome.
i mean, Brady has two game winning drives in the Superbowl; the QB position will forever get the glory & title of "leading" those drives.
& this on-going argument of Brady not winning anywhere else is interesting & ridiculous.
what team would Peyton strive on besides a top contender? the Saints? Pats? Vikings? Chargers? those are the only teams i see him doing good on if you could place him any other teams in the NFL & they are fine without him; but i could see Brady winning on those teams too, judging by his ACTUAL stats & not my personal opinion of hate towards the man.
the only average team i could see Peyton going on & making them a strong contender is the Jets.
but regardless where he went, STATS & games that ACTUALLY happened, he cannot win in the playoffs, unless the Pats D choke on him in the playoffs & then get the mighty Bears in the Superbowl lol.
I love how you back and forth on who wins games. The Osgood example was as good as it gets. He might have more playoff wins than any other goalie right now but he's nowhere near the best goalie of the era, and I'm a Red Wings fan. But the win/loss stats make a case for him.
I don't care about W/L stats. I don't care about TD stats, or yard starts, or anything of the sort. My argument for Manning over Brady in a landslide is based on this and this foremost; put each of them on the two worst teams in the league and both teams would still suck but the difference in my mind is Manning would still be amazing while Brady would suck as bad as the team he's on. Manning wouldn't turn the winless 70s Bucs into a playoff team. He might not even get them past 1 or 2 wins. But through it all he'd shine to the point where'd they'd build around him or another team would try like the devil to get him, like Denver did with Plummer. Brady, and I truly believe this would fall into obscurity. And I'm talking about if they were drafted by bad teams. I just don't think that if Brady was drafted by the Lions that he would have ever become a career starter in the NFL. While Manning never would have seen the bench no matter where he played.
Call me a dick suck, call me what you want. But I would have said the same thing in the 90s about Elway and Aikman, or the 80s about Marino and Montana, or the 70s about Tarkenton and Bradshaw, or the 60s about Unitas and Starr. It's not about Brady and Manning, it's about what I think about football. I've got no reason to think Manning over Brady other than the fact that I've watched them both as a Bills fan their whole careers and saw one play at a level higher than the other. And I mean playoffs too. Fuck stats. I watch games, not numbers.
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I think the Pats win the East still but do not go very far in the playoffs.
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lol i love when ppl say shit like the team won it not the qb, no shit idiot. Has a shitty team ever won the superbowl, no. The whole point of winning it is the best TEAMS get there to win it, not some chumps that get lucky all season. The fact is 100's of analysts and people that play football and been it around football for years say Brady is one of the best. So I think Ill go with them and the facts that show Brady is good lol, not some dude that probably thinks Sanchez is one of the best in the league, and some other that fully admitting to hating brady with a passion that he loses sleep when brady wins and cums in his pants when he fails.....
peyton manning career rating 95.3
tom brady 93.3
circa 2008
Peyton Manning's lifetime playoff stats throwing to Marvin Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Edge/Addai:
21 TD's, 17 INT
Tom Brady's lifetime playoff stats throwing mostly to David Givens, David Patten, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, and Jabar Gaffney:
25 TD's, 12 INT
I like how you conveniently leave randy moss and wes welkers name out out of bradys receivers to make it seem hes working with pedestrian wide receivers. ::)
Brady is good but hes nowhere near elite and nowhere near one of the best to every do it.
he got moss in 2008, so sure some of those td were in that year but those are the stats leading up to the superbowl , so all 3 of those playoff games he had him. And welker came to the team in 2007. both players werent on the team when the pats dynasty took place.
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lol i love when ppl say shit like the team won it not the qb, no shit idiot. Has a shitty team ever won the superbowl, no. The whole point of winning it is the best TEAMS get there to win it, not some chumps that get lucky all season. The fact is 100's of analysts and people that play football and been it around football for years say Brady is one of the best. So I think Ill go with them and the facts that show Brady is good lol, not some dude that probably thinks Sanchez is one of the best in the league, and some other that fully admitting to hating brady with a passion that he loses sleep when brady wins and cums in his pants when he fails.....
peyton manning career rating 95.3
tom brady 93.3
circa 2008
Peyton Manning's lifetime playoff stats throwing to Marvin Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Edge/Addai:
21 TD's, 17 INT
Tom Brady's lifetime playoff stats throwing mostly to David Givens, David Patten, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, and Jabar Gaffney:
25 TD's, 12 INT
I like how you conveniently leave randy moss and wes welkers name out out of bradys receivers to make it seem hes working with pedestrian wide receivers. ::)
Brady is good but hes nowhere near elite and nowhere near one of the best to every do it.
he got moss in 2008, so sure some of those td were in that year but those are the stats leading up to the superbowl , so all 3 of those playoff games he had him. And welker came to the team in 2007. both players werent on the team when the pats dynasty took place.
I'll trade the decade's top defense, Charlie Wies, and video tapes of the other team's practices for Moss and Welker any day of the week.
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every team does it, pats just got caught.
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every team does it, pats just got caught.
Like I said, Crennel, Mangini, McDaniels, Wies>>>>>>>Moss, Welker, Brady. Because Drew Bledsoe would have 2 more rings if he never got hurt.
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yah crennel and daniels have gone so far since leaving...best defences ever for the browns.......
so does it mean that dungy is a shity coach? he leaves and his replacement has them with a perfect record? So that mean that its all the other coaches and players? not dungy?
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you guys hate Tom Brady; end of story.
nothing he does will get him credit, you just hate him lol.
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yah crennel and daniels have gone so far since leaving...best defences ever for the browns.......
so does it mean that dungy is a shity coach? he leaves and his replacement has them with a perfect record? So that mean that its all the other coaches and players? not dungy?
Gretzky left the Oilers and never won another Cup, while Messier stayed behind and won one more with the Oilers and then another in NY. I'd like to see someone say Messier is even in the same league as Gretz.
Moss went to Oakland and stunk it up.
The point of this is that individuals don't win or lose championships. The NE coaching staff of the early 2000s was like the late 90s Yankees. No one would really stand out if they left the team but together they won championships and they knew how to plan a game, and change a strategy when the planned one wasn't working.
You put Bellicheck, Weis, Crennel, and Mangini on any team in 2000 and by 2002 they'll win a Superbowl. That's how important I think a coaching staff is to a team. Dungy left but the team is almost the exact same as far as coaches go. His understudy just took over and kept a lot of the same things going. Just like when Walsh retired and the 9ers won the SB the next year with out him. The whole team of co-ordinaters is more important than the single head coach, so long as the new head coach lets it run the same way. Just like how Tomlin came in as a defensive guy but never told LeBeau how to do anything.
Dungy was a great coach for working with what he had. Polian fucked with that team too often. I still say they would have had another 1 or 2 rings if they kept Faulk. I like Edge, but as a runner or a catcher he's not Marshall.
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yah crennel and daniels have gone so far since leaving...best defences ever for the browns.......
so does it mean that dungy is a shity coach? he leaves and his replacement has them with a perfect record? So that mean that its all the other coaches and players? not dungy?
i told you that coaches were overrated.
it's talent!
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you guys hate Tom Brady; end of story.
nothing he does will get him credit, you just hate him lol.
The second he shows me he can perform like a champ when the chips are down against a real team, whether he wins or loses the game, I will give him credit. But to this day all he has shown me is he can win when it's in his favor to win, and when the game is on the line and his team is down he has done nothing but screw up in big games. From fumbling against Oakland, to throwing a pick 6 at Denver in the redzone, to the INT against Indy, to getting shut down by the Giants and missing wide open guys for 1st down conversions all game and then airing out those punts to Moss for no reward at the end. Mr Clutch? I don't think so.
Just show me some tough throws under pressure, thread the needle when all hope is lost, or pass that perfect fade route to the back of the end zone and I'll admit I was wrong.
EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT BRADY I ONCE SAID ABOUT KOBE! FACT! KOBE WON LAST YEAR, LEAD HIS TEAM, AND I APOLOGIZED TO NIK, ADMITTED I WAS WRONG, AND I EVEN DEFEND KOBE NOW!
I don't take things personally in sport or hold grudges for no reason. I legitimately do not see what is so special about the way Brady plays the game. So stop trying to pass the buck and blame my personal feelings, because my personal feelings don't mean shit when it comes to how good I think a player is at what he does.
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^see what i mean?
"punts to Moss".
where when Peyton makes throws like that, they are "perfect" passes.
you love Peyton & hate Brady; if 3 rings, which two were on game winning drives lead by him aren't enough; i don't know what to tell you.
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^see what i mean?
"punts to Moss".
where when Peyton makes throws like that, they are "perfect" passes.
you love Peyton & hate Brady; if 3 rings, which two were on game winning drives lead by him aren't enough; i don't know what to tell you.
A perfect pass is Peyton to Garcon from this past week. A jump ball to a 6'6'' WR is punt. Moss had the NY defenders beat but because Brady's throw was too high, which is why I call it a punt, Moss had to slow down, let the DB catch up, and not make the play. I don't understand how you can't see that. There is no doubt that Peyton is better at hitting over the shoulder long balls in stride than Brady is. That's why they use things that can't be measured or judged to put Brady in the argument, like cool or calm or poise. It's a nice way of saying he can't make the throws but his team wins a lot so we have to give him credit.
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^see what i mean?
"punts to Moss".
where when Peyton makes throws like that, they are "perfect" passes.
you love Peyton & hate Brady; if 3 rings, which two were on game winning drives lead by him aren't enough; i don't know what to tell you.
A perfect pass is Peyton to Garcon from this past week. A jump ball to a 6'6'' WR is punt. Moss had the NY defenders beat but because Brady's throw was too high, which is why I call it a punt, Moss had to slow down, let the DB catch up, and not make the play. I don't understand how you can't see that. There is no doubt that Peyton is better at hitting over the shoulder long balls in stride than Brady is. That's why they use things that can't be measured or judged to put Brady in the argument, like cool or calm or poise. It's a nice way of saying he can't make the throws but his team wins a lot so we have to give him credit.
i say, use what you got.
but i know that first drive against the Phins this week was a "Peyton Perfect" pass to Moss.
you don't need to be as perfect as long as you win.
i don't see how you become bad just because you can't make the same throws as arguably the greatest QB ever lol.
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^see what i mean?
"punts to Moss".
where when Peyton makes throws like that, they are "perfect" passes.
you love Peyton & hate Brady; if 3 rings, which two were on game winning drives lead by him aren't enough; i don't know what to tell you.
A perfect pass is Peyton to Garcon from this past week. A jump ball to a 6'6'' WR is punt. Moss had the NY defenders beat but because Brady's throw was too high, which is why I call it a punt, Moss had to slow down, let the DB catch up, and not make the play. I don't understand how you can't see that. There is no doubt that Peyton is better at hitting over the shoulder long balls in stride than Brady is. That's why they use things that can't be measured or judged to put Brady in the argument, like cool or calm or poise. It's a nice way of saying he can't make the throws but his team wins a lot so we have to give him credit.
i say, use what you got.
but i know that first drive against the Phins this week was a "Peyton Perfect" pass to Moss.
you don't need to be as perfect as long as you win.
i don't see how you become bad just because you can't make the same throws as arguably the greatest QB ever lol.
You don't become bad because you aren't the best. But when time after time you've shown you cannot make tough throws under pressure you become not great. And that's all I've said from day one. Very good QB, but not great, about Tom Brady.
P.S. - given the distance and the situation I won't say Peyton would have thrown that ball to Moss any different, but it wasn't perfect, like the Garcon pass.