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Title: THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: bez on November 20, 2002, 05:01:42 PM
After all the hype I have been hearing from this board, after all the threads and posts about THE WATCHER 2 this THE WATCHER 2 that, I downloaded it.  

Now the way you guys have talked about this track I expect nothing but straight heat you know a track that I would bump for days on end and nothing else would ever get a look in.  I have downloaded the song and all I can say is OVERATED.  

The way everyone on this board descirbed that song was so overrated that I am actually stunned to be saying that.  The song is average IMO and I could easily bump The Watcher off 2001 for so much longer than this.  

The beat is awful, I didnt even find myself nodding my head to it or tapping my feat to it, I think that Jay Z's rappin is ok but I would love to see him perform that live because I swear there moments in his what 1.30 second verse where he dont breath for like 30 seconds.  Even tho his rappin was good I dont think it was his style at all.  

Truth was awful on the hook, it just sounded basic and boring.  And there was nothing new from Dre, still rhyming about himself, boasting about himself.  

Rakim impressed me cause at least his verse was well dropped and the lyrics where well written and it flowed good but really the only part of this track that I really felt was the:

Every where that I go, aint the same as before,
People I used to know, just dont know me know more,
But everywhere that I go, I got people I know, who got people they know,
So I suggest you lay low!

Everything else just sucked.  Ahhhhh the beat is giving me a headache.  

The song might as well of been a totally new song and IMO the Term THE WATCHER shouldent of been used in this song at all because this track does THE WATCHER now justice at all.  

This for me has most definetly been one of the most over-rated hyped up songs that I have listened to since I have been here at WCC, I dont know if everyone was just like wow, its dre so I'll just say its good or if people actually did feel it as much as they said they did.  But I know one thing for sure this song will not be getting much play from me.  
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: platinumk777 on November 20, 2002, 05:24:51 PM
It is overrated, I'll give u that, but for the rest, I disagree
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Darksider on November 20, 2002, 05:43:27 PM
After all the hype I have been hearing from this board, after all the threads and posts about THE WATCHER 2 this THE WATCHER 2 that, I downloaded it.  

Now the way you guys have talked about this track I expect nothing but straight heat you know a track that I would bump for days on end and nothing else would ever get a look in.  I have downloaded the song and all I can say is OVERATED.  

The way everyone on this board descirbed that song was so overrated that I am actually stunned to be saying that.  The song is average IMO and I could easily bump The Watcher off 2001 for so much longer than this.  

The beat is awful, I didnt even find myself nodding my head to it or tapping my feat to it, I think that Jay Z's rappin is ok but I would love to see him perform that live because I swear there moments in his what 1.30 second verse where he dont breath for like 30 seconds.  Even tho his rappin was good I dont think it was his style at all.  

Truth was awful on the hook, it just sounded basic and boring.  And there was nothing new from Dre, still rhyming about himself, boasting about himself.  

Rakim impressed me cause at least his verse was well dropped and the lyrics where well written and it flowed good but really the only part of this track that I really felt was the:

Every where that I go, aint the same as before,
People I used to know, just dont know me know more,
But everywhere that I go, I got people I know, who got people they know,
So I suggest you lay low!

Everything else just sucked.  Ahhhhh the beat is giving me a headache.  

The song might as well of been a totally new song and IMO the Term THE WATCHER shouldent of been used in this song at all because this track does THE WATCHER now justice at all.  

This for me has most definetly been one of the most over-rated hyped up songs that I have listened to since I have been here at WCC, I dont know if everyone was just like wow, its dre so I'll just say its good or if people actually did feel it as much as they said they did.  But I know one thing for sure this song will not be getting much play from me.  
I agree 100%.
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: asiatic8 on November 20, 2002, 05:51:40 PM
I personally think the song is tight as hell......well worth the wait......i think you are disappointed b/c u started to believe all the hype and not just wait to judge your own opinion.........that is how u should judge everything...dont listen to other ppl form your own opinion.  With all the hype most songs get, they can do nothing but fail since expectations so high!  But the watcher 2 is hot....point blank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  But that is just my opinion and that is the point.....  
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: budsmokeronly on November 20, 2002, 05:54:24 PM
I like the og watcher 5 times better than the watcher II
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: AxleF on November 20, 2002, 06:14:14 PM
I personally think "Truth Hurts" heats it up on this song.  Her part is what makes this song almost live up to the hype.  IMO  Im not so critical on this song because.. Its like this.. maybe WE fans are holding Dre to some UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS just cuz we need a "fix."

We're so busy fiendin for the ultimate beat.. and believe me.. I know the feeling.  I wake up every morning with a "bowl" "coffee" and a "beat."  An admitted beat junkie, that I am!!!!!  But that doesnt mean that we should be so critical.  Shit.. we are the only ones who get disappointed and bitch.  Not the artist.

I think overall The Watcher 2 delivered.

Axle
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: LIL GUY on November 20, 2002, 07:32:53 PM
Bez here's a little advice for you,  dont listen to anything the people at this board say.  form your own opions.  If you listen to them before you hear songs you will always be upset.  They either blow up songs too much or try to tear them down.  The only reason they blew this song up is becuase of Dre.  Most of the people here are on Dre and Eminem really hard.  This song does not even have a topic,  Jay-Z is not talking about being a watcher, Dre is still talking about....well "still"  "Im still in the game, Im still this, Im still that"  Rakim Had the best verse becuase it was on topic.  but yeah dont listen to these fools most of hear a song one time and say "oohhh that is classic",  Dont let them make up your mind for you.
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Vigilante on November 20, 2002, 07:50:14 PM
After all the hype I have been hearing from this board, after all the threads and posts about THE WATCHER 2 this THE WATCHER 2 that, I downloaded it.  

Now the way you guys have talked about this track I expect nothing but straight heat you know a track that I would bump for days on end and nothing else would ever get a look in.  I have downloaded the song and all I can say is OVERATED.  

The way everyone on this board descirbed that song was so overrated that I am actually stunned to be saying that.  The song is average IMO and I could easily bump The Watcher off 2001 for so much longer than this.  

The beat is awful, I didnt even find myself nodding my head to it or tapping my feat to it, I think that Jay Z's rappin is ok but I would love to see him perform that live because I swear there moments in his what 1.30 second verse where he dont breath for like 30 seconds.  Even tho his rappin was good I dont think it was his style at all.  

Truth was awful on the hook, it just sounded basic and boring.  And there was nothing new from Dre, still rhyming about himself, boasting about himself.  

Rakim impressed me cause at least his verse was well dropped and the lyrics where well written and it flowed good but really the only part of this track that I really felt was the:

Every where that I go, aint the same as before,
People I used to know, just dont know me know more,
But everywhere that I go, I got people I know, who got people they know,
So I suggest you lay low!

Everything else just sucked.  Ahhhhh the beat is giving me a headache.  

The song might as well of been a totally new song and IMO the Term THE WATCHER shouldent of been used in this song at all because this track does THE WATCHER now justice at all.  

This for me has most definetly been one of the most over-rated hyped up songs that I have listened to since I have been here at WCC, I dont know if everyone was just like wow, its dre so I'll just say its good or if people actually did feel it as much as they said they did.  But I know one thing for sure this song will not be getting much play from me.  
I agree 100%.

Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: T-Dogg on November 21, 2002, 12:16:56 PM
Don't believe the hype...
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Fashizzle on November 21, 2002, 01:58:48 PM
I personally think "Truth Hurts" heats it up on this song.  Her part is what makes this song almost live up to the hype.  IMO  Im not so critical on this song because.. Its like this.. maybe WE fans are holding Dre to some UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS just cuz we need a "fix."

We're so busy fiendin for the ultimate beat.. and believe me.. I know the feeling.  I wake up every morning with a "bowl" "coffee" and a "beat."  An admitted beat junkie, that I am!!!!!  But that doesnt mean that we should be so critical.  Shit.. we are the only ones who get disappointed and bitch.  Not the artist.

I think overall The Watcher 2 delivered.

Axle

you goddamn right. couldnah said it better
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on November 21, 2002, 02:13:50 PM
I personally think "Truth Hurts" heats it up on this song.  Her part is what makes this song almost live up to the hype.  IMO  Im not so critical on this song because.. Its like this.. maybe WE fans are holding Dre to some UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS just cuz we need a "fix."

We're so busy fiendin for the ultimate beat.. and believe me.. I know the feeling.  I wake up every morning with a "bowl" "coffee" and a "beat."  An admitted beat junkie, that I am!!!!!  But that doesnt mean that we should be so critical.  Shit.. we are the only ones who get disappointed and bitch.  Not the artist.

I think overall The Watcher 2 delivered.

Axle

word
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Tha_Reverend on November 21, 2002, 07:55:51 PM
Word to AX.





-Nate
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Jome on November 21, 2002, 08:54:35 PM
We're so busy fiendin for the ultimate beat.. and believe me.. I know the feeling.  I wake up every morning with a "bowl" "coffee" and a "beat."  An admitted beat junkie, that I am!!!!!  But that doesnt mean that we should be so critical.  Shit.. we are the only ones who get disappointed and bitch.  Not the artist.

I think overall The Watcher 2 delivered.

Axle

Real talk!!
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on November 21, 2002, 09:48:45 PM
The song is defo over rated
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: DPGC2003 on November 23, 2002, 06:09:23 PM
The original is a 5/5...This one is just ehhh....
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: deeznutzz on November 24, 2002, 05:38:02 AM
Y'all gotta remember that this song was done during the "2001" recordings and that it's gonna sound played out because we keep hearing all of dre's beats that sound alike.  I guarantee you that if dre released this song on the 2001 album with hittman and rakim on it everybody would call it a classic. Remember  that this song is 3 years old and y'all are still on it's nutzzzzz.
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Timcasic on November 27, 2002, 10:37:46 PM
Bez, do you like West Coast Hip Hop Music?
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Murrow on November 28, 2002, 07:26:43 AM
Fuck the beat, the original was betterm the raps on here are ill from all of em.  I still think Dre has the best flow...it is is best since like "Forgot About Dre."  Jay-Z and Rakim both do a great job too, but the award goes to Dre.

"You was puttin Peter Pan poster in you room" - that line by Jay, he says it kind it off key, and it sounds very familiar.  Didn't Eminem say a rap in that tone,  because I swear Jay ripped this from someone.
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Fashizzle on November 28, 2002, 08:55:55 AM
fuck all the bullshit said about this track. "The Watcher 2" is hot as fuck, nuff said!

if you take a dre beat + jigga + another dope rapper like rakim, eminem, snoop
it always comes out good... real nice... i would like a album with only those artist... STR8 HEAT!

Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: bez on November 28, 2002, 12:13:09 PM
Bez, do you like West Coast Hip Hop Music?

I like all sorts of music no matter from what coast it is from.  How can you class a song that is on a Jay Z album as West Coast Music n e way. Just because its produced by dre dont mean shit to me, I dont like the beat, no because its west coast or not, just because simple I DONT LIKE IT.
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Vigilante on November 28, 2002, 01:39:59 PM
I like the og watcher 5 times better than the watcher II
Title: Re:THE WATCHER 2, I cant belive this!!
Post by: Gangsta_T on November 29, 2002, 01:35:42 AM
After all the hype I have been hearing from this board, after all the threads and posts about THE WATCHER 2 this THE WATCHER 2 that, I downloaded it.  

Now the way you guys have talked about this track I expect nothing but straight heat you know a track that I would bump for days on end and nothing else would ever get a look in.  I have downloaded the song and all I can say is OVERATED.  

The way everyone on this board descirbed that song was so overrated that I am actually stunned to be saying that.  The song is average IMO and I could easily bump The Watcher off 2001 for so much longer than this.  

The beat is awful, I didnt even find myself nodding my head to it or tapping my feat to it, I think that Jay Z's rappin is ok but I would love to see him perform that live because I swear there moments in his what 1.30 second verse where he dont breath for like 30 seconds.  Even tho his rappin was good I dont think it was his style at all.  

Truth was awful on the hook, it just sounded basic and boring.  And there was nothing new from Dre, still rhyming about himself, boasting about himself.  

Rakim impressed me cause at least his verse was well dropped and the lyrics where well written and it flowed good but really the only part of this track that I really felt was the:

Every where that I go, aint the same as before,
People I used to know, just dont know me know more,
But everywhere that I go, I got people I know, who got people they know,
So I suggest you lay low!

Everything else just sucked.  Ahhhhh the beat is giving me a headache.  

The song might as well of been a totally new song and IMO the Term THE WATCHER shouldent of been used in this song at all because this track does THE WATCHER now justice at all.  

This for me has most definetly been one of the most over-rated hyped up songs that I have listened to since I have been here at WCC, I dont know if everyone was just like wow, its dre so I'll just say its good or if people actually did feel it as much as they said they did.  But I know one thing for sure this song will not be getting much play from me.  

word bez
i was sayn that shit earlier this month

GT