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Title: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 16, 2009, 03:58:01 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ap-athleteofthedecade&prov=ap&type=lgns

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As sports go, it wasn’t close: Tiger Woods was famous for his golf long before he became infamous for his personal life.

For 10 incomparable years, no one ruled a sport like Woods. He won 64 tournaments, including 12 major championships. He hoisted a trophy on every continent where golf is played. And those 56 titles in one decade on the PGA Tour? Consider that only four of golf’s greatest players won more in their entire careers.

Even as a shocking sex scandal changed the way people look at Woods, the records he set could not be ignored.

AP - Dec 16, 10:00 am EST 1 of 9 Golf Gallery  Woods was selected Wednesday as the Athlete of the Decade by members of The Associated Press in a vote that was more about his performance on the course than the self-described transgressions as a person.

“The only reason I wouldn’t vote for Tiger Woods is because of the events of the last three weeks,” said Mike Strain, sports editor of the Tulsa (Okla.) World. “And I didn’t think that was enough to change my vote. I thought he was a transcendent sports figure.”

He received 56 of the 142 votes cast since last month by editors at U.S. newspapers that are members of the AP. More than half the ballots were returned after the Nov. 27 car accident outside his Florida home that set off sensational tales of infidelity.

Lance Armstrong, a cancer survivor who won the Tour de France six times this decade, finished second with 33 votes. He was followed by Roger Federer, who has won more Grand Slam singles titles than any other man, with 25 votes.

congradulations to the name; glad to see his off the course controversy didn't affect the vote.

Federer & Armstrong are very worthy runners-up & i wouldn't have argued to see one of them win it; even Phelps.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 16, 2009, 09:06:01 PM
Federer beats out Tiger real easy in my mind. For one he's actually an athlete. And two he's just as much dominant as Tiger. This isn't a hit on Tiger. This is a jab at Golf. I don't care who it was. If a Golfer is selected as best athlete then we have a problem. The litmus test should be if the average sports writer can play a sport from good to very well then it should be disqualified from discussion. OJ Simpson did what Tiger does after he retired. Maybe not nearly as well as Tiger, but let's see Tiger do what OJ did in his prime after he retires. It's not even close. I'd rather have Tom Brady win the award than a Golfer.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 17, 2009, 11:10:53 AM
for me, if you play a sport, you're an athlete.

Golf = sport.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: 7even on December 17, 2009, 12:16:04 PM
someone who's good at curling = athlete?
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 17, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
someone who's good at curling = athlete?

yeah lol.

if you compete in the Olympics, you're an athlete lol.

maybe not top of the line, sprinter, jumper, football player, but you're an athlete.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2009, 03:00:42 PM
someone who's good at curling = athlete?

yeah lol.

if you compete in the Olympics, you're an athlete lol.

maybe not top of the line, sprinter, jumper, football player, but you're an athlete.


Ok, so if you're a top of the line athlete because of the sport you play you should not be mentioned with the great athletes of the decade, and certainly not be the athlete of the decade. Plenty of things are sports and those participants may very well be athletes, but shouldn't even be considered with the greatest athletes. A guy like Lebron can be thrown into the Olympics as anything from a sprinter, to high jumper to shot put, and while he wouldn't win any medals or even qualify, he wouldn't be an embarrassment either. Tiger Woods in the tri-state high school decathlon would be a joke.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 17, 2009, 03:04:27 PM
someone who's good at curling = athlete?

yeah lol.

if you compete in the Olympics, you're an athlete lol.

maybe not top of the line, sprinter, jumper, football player, but you're an athlete.


Ok, so if you're a top of the line athlete because of the sport you play you should not be mentioned with the great athletes of the decade, and certainly not be the athlete of the decade. Plenty of things are sports and those participants may very well be athletes, but shouldn't even be considered with the greatest athletes. A guy like Lebron can be thrown into the Olympics as anything from a sprinter, to high jumper to shot put, and while he wouldn't win any medals or even qualify, he wouldn't be an embarrassment either. Tiger Woods in the tri-state high school decathlon would be a joke.

you're taking the word "athletic" too literally.

the award isn't who can jump the highest, run the fastest, go the longest, be the strongest, etc.; it's which person who plays in sports (any sport) has been the most successful.

it's not like they look and say, "hey, Ed Reed is 6'2'', strong as a tank, real fast, great on his feet, can jump high", it's which person in sports has been the most successful; you can make your argument for Federer, but you can't say Tiger doesn't deserve to win.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2009, 03:09:55 PM
someone who's good at curling = athlete?

yeah lol.

if you compete in the Olympics, you're an athlete lol.

maybe not top of the line, sprinter, jumper, football player, but you're an athlete.


Ok, so if you're a top of the line athlete because of the sport you play you should not be mentioned with the great athletes of the decade, and certainly not be the athlete of the decade. Plenty of things are sports and those participants may very well be athletes, but shouldn't even be considered with the greatest athletes. A guy like Lebron can be thrown into the Olympics as anything from a sprinter, to high jumper to shot put, and while he wouldn't win any medals or even qualify, he wouldn't be an embarrassment either. Tiger Woods in the tri-state high school decathlon would be a joke.

you're taking the word "athletic" too literally.

the award isn't who can jump the highest, run the fastest, go the longest, be the strongest, etc.; it's which person who plays in sports (any sport) has been the most successful.

it's not like they look and say, "hey, Ed Reed is 6'2'', strong as a tank, real fast, great on his feet, can jump high", it's which person in sports has been the most successful; you can make your argument for Federer, but you can't say Tiger doesn't deserve to win.


Oh, well in that case it's Phil Taylor hands down. He stared the decade with 5 straight World Championships, and then won 3 straight to open the 2000s, finished second the next year, and then won another 3-peat from 04 to 06. He just won again in 09 and he's only been ranked less than 2nd in the world once this whole ten years. Tiger doesn't even come close that.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: 7even on December 17, 2009, 03:31:33 PM
someone who's good at curling = athlete?

yeah lol.

if you compete in the Olympics, you're an athlete lol.

maybe not top of the line, sprinter, jumper, football player, but you're an athlete.


Ok, so if you're a top of the line athlete because of the sport you play you should not be mentioned with the great athletes of the decade, and certainly not be the athlete of the decade. Plenty of things are sports and those participants may very well be athletes, but shouldn't even be considered with the greatest athletes. A guy like Lebron can be thrown into the Olympics as anything from a sprinter, to high jumper to shot put, and while he wouldn't win any medals or even qualify, he wouldn't be an embarrassment either. Tiger Woods in the tri-state high school decathlon would be a joke.

you're taking the word "athletic" too literally.

the award isn't who can jump the highest, run the fastest, go the longest, be the strongest, etc.; it's which person who plays in sports (any sport) has been the most successful.

it's not like they look and say, "hey, Ed Reed is 6'2'', strong as a tank, real fast, great on his feet, can jump high", it's which person in sports has been the most successful; you can make your argument for Federer, but you can't say Tiger doesn't deserve to win.


Oh, well in that case it's Phil Taylor hands down. He stared the decade with 5 straight World Championships, and then won 3 straight to open the 2000s, finished second the next year, and then won another 3-peat from 04 to 06. He just won again in 09 and he's only been ranked less than 2nd in the world once this whole ten years. Tiger doesn't even come close that.

I agree. Why did they overlook him like that? Didn't he get any votes?  :-\
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: the ghost on December 17, 2009, 03:37:51 PM
I'm in the not so sure about golf being a "sport".  That being said NO one has been as dominating in their "sport" as Tiger has been to Golf over this decade.  I mean there are some great golfers out the today and they only win when Tiger fucks up it seems.  He is a monster and he has been so dominant for so long that everyone is desentisized!
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2009, 03:40:26 PM
someone who's good at curling = athlete?

yeah lol.

if you compete in the Olympics, you're an athlete lol.

maybe not top of the line, sprinter, jumper, football player, but you're an athlete.


Ok, so if you're a top of the line athlete because of the sport you play you should not be mentioned with the great athletes of the decade, and certainly not be the athlete of the decade. Plenty of things are sports and those participants may very well be athletes, but shouldn't even be considered with the greatest athletes. A guy like Lebron can be thrown into the Olympics as anything from a sprinter, to high jumper to shot put, and while he wouldn't win any medals or even qualify, he wouldn't be an embarrassment either. Tiger Woods in the tri-state high school decathlon would be a joke.

you're taking the word "athletic" too literally.

the award isn't who can jump the highest, run the fastest, go the longest, be the strongest, etc.; it's which person who plays in sports (any sport) has been the most successful.

it's not like they look and say, "hey, Ed Reed is 6'2'', strong as a tank, real fast, great on his feet, can jump high", it's which person in sports has been the most successful; you can make your argument for Federer, but you can't say Tiger doesn't deserve to win.


Oh, well in that case it's Phil Taylor hands down. He stared the decade with 5 straight World Championships, and then won 3 straight to open the 2000s, finished second the next year, and then won another 3-peat from 04 to 06. He just won again in 09 and he's only been ranked less than 2nd in the world once this whole ten years. Tiger doesn't even come close that.

I agree. Why did they overlook him like that? Didn't he get any votes?  :-\


Not a single vote.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: 7even on December 17, 2009, 03:43:02 PM
I'm in the not so sure about golf being a "sport".  That being said NO one has been as dominating in their "sport" as Tiger has been to Golf over this decade.  I mean there are some great golfers out the today and they only win when Tiger fucks up it seems.  He is a monster and he has been so dominant for so long that everyone is desentisized!

Federer has won more majors this decade than Woods, in two years he 1 3 majors per year, he's been in more than 20 major semifinals in a row, he's been number 1 in the world rankings for 4.5 years STRAIGHT. Federer has easily been more dominating than Woods, in a sport that people usually only can play for 5 years on a very high level. If Federer was American and black and Woods was white and Swiss, no doubt Federer would easily win this award.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
I'm in the not so sure about golf being a "sport".  That being said NO one has been as dominating in their "sport" as Tiger has been to Golf over this decade.  I mean there are some great golfers out the today and they only win when Tiger fucks up it seems.  He is a monster and he has been so dominant for so long that everyone is desentisized!

Federer has won more majors this decade than Woods, in two years he 1 3 majors per year, he's been in more than 20 major semifinals in a row, he's been number 1 in the world rankings for 4.5 years STRAIGHT. Federer has easily been more dominating than Woods, in a sport that people usually only can play for 5 years on a very high level. If Federer was American and black and Woods was white and Swiss, no doubt Federer would easily win this award.


If a black American was as dominant in tennis as Federer he'd be the biggest thing since sliced bread. But still not nearly the athlete Phil Taylor is. In ten full year he only fell outside the number 2 spot once, and only was number 2 twice. That means he was number 1 for 7 of the 10 years.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 17, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
maybe they count the entire package; i know Roger don't got a billion.

Tiger Woods is an icon, could that have helped his cause? obviously.

that's why your no-name boy wasn't even mentioned.

just live with it, you guys can name anybody you want as athlete of the decade, this is somebodies choice; you don't have to worship the decision, you don't have to pray to Tiger Woods because of this, just ignore it if it truly eats at you lol.

Golf couldn't live without him, Tennis could live without Roger, even though it wouldn't live for me; he's the only reason i watch Tennis lol.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2009, 04:39:33 PM


Golf couldn't live without him,


You could have said Tom Brady is hands down the greatest QB ever that would have made more sense to me than this. Golf isn't going anywhere, with or with out Tiger. Is he the big star? Yes. Does he make it more money? Yes. Would the PGA Tour cease to exist if Tiger was never born? No it wouldn't. Golf will do just as good after Tiger as it did before Tiger. That may not mean as good as it does with Tiger, but it's here to stay.

You may as well have said Rap couldn't live with out Eminem.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 17, 2009, 04:44:24 PM


Golf couldn't live without him,


You could have said Tom Brady is hands down the greatest QB ever that would have made more sense to me than this. Golf isn't going anywhere, with or with out Tiger. Is he the big star? Yes. Does he make it more money? Yes. Would the PGA Tour cease to exist if Tiger was never born? No it wouldn't. Golf will do just as good after Tiger as it did before Tiger. That may not mean as good as it does with Tiger, but it's here to stay.

You may as well have said Rap couldn't live with out Eminem.

the ratings are God awful without Tiger playing.

obviously the sport of Golf isn't going anywhere, but he is the only reason people watch Golf.

rap could live without Eminem because there are people we concider to be as good or better than Eminem, today & past.

Tiger, you can try to make some loopy argument that he isn't the greatest, but i'm sold that he is.

Tiger Woods is the greatest thing in Golf, greatest player in Golf for the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on December 17, 2009, 05:05:55 PM
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/115/whoaholdup.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 17, 2009, 06:43:35 PM


Golf couldn't live without him,


You could have said Tom Brady is hands down the greatest QB ever that would have made more sense to me than this. Golf isn't going anywhere, with or with out Tiger. Is he the big star? Yes. Does he make it more money? Yes. Would the PGA Tour cease to exist if Tiger was never born? No it wouldn't. Golf will do just as good after Tiger as it did before Tiger. That may not mean as good as it does with Tiger, but it's here to stay.

You may as well have said Rap couldn't live with out Eminem.

the ratings are God awful without Tiger playing.

obviously the sport of Golf isn't going anywhere, but he is the only reason people watch Golf.

rap could live without Eminem because there are people we concider to be as good or better than Eminem, today & past.

Tiger, you can try to make some loopy argument that he isn't the greatest, but i'm sold that he is.

Tiger Woods is the greatest thing in Golf, greatest player in Golf for the last 20 years.


I'm not arguing that ratings would sick big time until another star is born and even then may never be as big. I'm also not arguing that he is by far the best Golfer playing since Nicklaus stopped being great about 25 years ago. I'm not arguing that most people who watch network Golf watch to see Tiger. You said that that Golf needs Tiger to survive. And that is as wrong as Rap needs Eminem to survive. Who is more significant to their own area isn't the issue. The issue is both Golf and Rap will face no possibility of extinction whether Tiger or Em never do anything again.

My only issue with this award is that Golfers are not great athletes, it does not take great "athletic" skill to be great at Golf, and no Golfer should be mentioned with the great athletes of all time. Like I said; Wayne Gretzky does right now what Tiger Woods does, regardless of level, Tiger Woods could never do what Gretzky did.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: OchoCinco on December 21, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/WvngjWcwAOU
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Shallow on December 21, 2009, 07:09:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/WvngjWcwAOU


It's funny because Ferrel's physical comedy makes him just as eligible for athlete of the year as any golfer.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 21, 2009, 07:23:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/WvngjWcwAOU

this is why i love Will Ferrell lol.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: 7even on December 22, 2009, 08:19:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/WvngjWcwAOU


It's funny because Ferrel's physical comedy makes him just as eligible for athlete of the year as any golfer.

I don't know if many people caught that, but I'm sure Ferrel knew it.
Title: Re: Tiger Woods named athlete of the decade.
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 23, 2009, 10:16:55 PM
Lance Armstrong probably wants to snap a couple of necks after this.