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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: thug child on December 18, 2009, 11:45:43 PM
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The interview where biggie rated everyone in the game at the time and he gave 40 and spice 1 a zero.
Redman: The new Redman!?! Seven. I can't dis him cause I know he got skills. He get busy on the lyrics but i can't feel his new shit, his new cosmic crazy shit. I'm used to the clean cut blowout fly nigga. When I met the nigga he was a fly nigga, you know what I'm sayin', now he on some different shit. I reallt don't like when a rapper come out and they blow up the way they are and they come out again on some changed up shit. To me, that's like getting some good coke from poppy and then getting some money and then be like,'Fuck that! I'm getting some more 45ths, some brown shit and then bag that up.' Why would you change your plan? That's what he
did to me.
E-40: No rating! Zero! I don't fuck with duke at all. At all.
Too $hort: Ten. That's my dog right there. I love that nigga. That's my man. The calibre of shit he got. Cocktails shit, i ain't got to see that shit yet. I know that shit it hot! I was with him in Atlanta and we were just kickin' it and shit. That's my dog. I love that man.
Spice 1: Zero. I don't like that guy at all.
Craig Mack: I don't really like him too much either, dog. I can't give him a zero though 'cause he got some hot shit but like five...four, since he on some different shit, some shit I can't relate to. I'm from the hood, he from the suburbs so it's completely different shit. I don't really like the music too much. I like the beats but that (scats) it's not rhymes for me, it's just some prety kid shit.
Eiht: I like Eiht's shit. I give Eiht like an eight. He got some hard shit, some real shit.
DJ Quick: I like the shit on the soundtrack. That's shit is hot. I give him a seven...six.
Snoop Doggy Dogg: Snoopy??? I like Snoop. I give him like an eight. I like his shit.
He sits and reflects on what we have asked and offers, "I'm into fly pimp, straight flat shit. I don't like no nigga that I have to decipher but some nigga that I don dicipher I give a ten...Nas, I give Jeru a ten, I give ummmmm?....
(Someone shouts out KRS-One.)
KRS-One: KRS-One?? Naahhh...I don't like KRS no more 'cause he just think he's too dope. He let his ego take over his shit and that's what brings him down. When he was like that (shouts "Blow it to yorself"), when he was like that, then he was a ten but now, 'I am Hip Hop'!!! Eat a dick nigga. Eat a muthaphukkin' dick!
Guru: Premier??? Umm...who else I give a ten too? I like Keith. Keith's shit is hot.
Outkast: I like them too...six...seven.
Big Mike: Six...Seven
Scarface: Seven...eight. He got some hard shit. Face got some hard shit.
R.A. The Rugged One: The white boy??!! The one that I did the jam with??? That's who you talkin' about? Two...might be a three, I did the song, they paid me a lot of money, that's why I did it. The beat was knockin'.
Dr.Dre & Ed Lover: Those are my boys. I just like them nigga, know what I'm sayin'. You don't rate niggas. I just like them niggas. They just friends.
Cypress Hill: I used to like them. The first, shit, that first "How i can just kill a man" joint, I was liking that but that new age smoke out shit...fuck it!
New Kingdom: Who? Never heard of them.
Da Brat: I like Da Brat. I like her shit. I give her a nice six. She ain't the dopest female MC but I like her single. I like how she comin'.
The topic of females MC's arrives and Biggie Speaks. "The dopest female MC that has a record deal that's out right now is Rage, but my Mc that's coming out, Little Kim, is the dopest female MC that's coming out ever. Ever.
She gets busy like a nigga that's why I like her style. Hard shit! She
speaks on suckin niggas...,shooting niggas, real shit that real bitches do that they are just scared to talk about, just how I came out, on some real shit."
Naughty By Nature: I like all of 'em. I got a relationship with Treach. I got a relationship with Vinnie and I got a relationship with K, but you know what I'm sayin', the music itself it seems that they just wanna make that one hit. Once they got that one hit everything else don't count. That's why I can't dig that. I want a nigga that's gonna be like, 'Yo, I heard an album that's like nine joints I like three, I like maybe the single, the remix. I don't want no album like that.
Coolio: I like that new joint, "Mama I'm In love with a Gangsta". I like that joint. I just like them hard niggas, them niggas that just be leveled out.
Ice Cube: The old one or the new one? Kickiyaya???? It's not hte same shit. It's like niggas is changing too much for me and I can't keep the love. I respect the nigga because I know back in the day he used to do his thing so I can't dis him but the new shit right now is...
The topic of quitting before the game gets up on you is put on the table.
"I quit before it get on me like that dog!! I know my niggas keep it real.
My niggas be like,'Big, you are sleeping. That shit right there ain't no
Ready to Die type shit'. I take my niggas word. If shit ain't right, it
ain't right. I ain't putting it out. I quit before a nigga say Big was
wack. Fuck that!! I produce, get a label, do something. Fuck that!
Tupac: Pac get busy. People can't take nothing from him. On the lyrics he get busy, straight up. That nigga got some hard shit dog for real, and it's like the sad thing about it. When he started working on his new album he's got now, Out on Bail, (retitled and released as Me Against The World)
he had so many raw east coast producers and shit. The shit was sounding real tight 'cause everybody always says Pac had lyrics but his beats was back. He was up in New York when he was working on Above the Rim shit and he was working on his album at the same time. I put him on to Mo Bee. I put him on to L.G. He has Action, Special Ed's DJ, he had some hard shit.
(HE) went back to the west and just started getting back into that other shit.
Dr. Dre: Beats? Incredible!
The topic of producers arrives and names are fired out for Biggie to rate.
"Who do I think every beat they make is just ridiculous??!!...
Ant Banks: I like Banks. I like that whole shit though. Ant BAnks shit, the whole Dangerous crew shit."
Who is a ten producer?
"Ain't nobody perfect dog. Everybody got their little faults and shit but the only one I seen that's been hitting hard with their shit is Premier.
Every joint that he be putting out right now is just ridiculous, from
Jeru's shit, to the new group he got, the Group Home shit, to the shit he did with me. The shit is hard, yo! The beats is crazy."
Sir Mix-a-lot: Nothing! I love his coats. I would love to be in the game like how that nigga get in the game. I wanna be just as large as those fools but get busy, cut the bullshit. Nigga saying...I got millions but God damn that nigga get on the mic it's just something terrible dog. I just wanna get busy on the mic more than anything. The little bitch game the niggas play with the girls, man! A nigga just throw some bitches in they shit and they just sit there, like from the "Tootsie Roll" shit to the "Whoot! There it is!" shit. It's the same shit. You get trapped up with these hoes. That shit ain't got nothing to do with hip hop. Nothing!
The topic of wack lyrics arises and Biggie states:
"I don't wanna be a nigga paying so much attention to the fucking networking and all that other shit and I'm not paying' no attention to these rhymes. That's what made me get to where I'm at so I gotta make sure the lyrics is hard."
K-Dee: "The greatest MC in the world"?? I like that track. Nigga don't really be saying nothing to me, you know, like lyrically he don't be saying nothing to me. What make it so bad is when they come out with some shit that's like half ass and like you wonder like, "I wonder how the video will be." And then they got a video with this nigga spinning this bottle and I'm like OK, what's gonna happen when the bottle stops and the bottle is spinning for like three fucking minutes and then it stops and
everybody laughs like ha, and he spins again!!! Who directed this? Cube, it had to be. It's just that funny style shit that I can't fuck with. I
like flat on the table shit, like my shit. They try to stick me for my shit I shot 'em. Period. There's no helicopter scenes with me talkin to
somebody like , 'Well, how's the record doing?' There's no shit on there that you could be like why is that shit in there. That's how I like the shit, just regular shit.
Easy-E: (before his untimely death)-I like Easy-E. Easy-E is a real illnigga. He's sharp as a tack ontop but rhymin' even he knows. He took a group from the hood and just put them on and two million. Bing! He know how to do that shit. Same thing with Luke and all the rest of them niggas. Man, I just think they take another turn. I can let you hear some Easy-E shit on some old NWA shit and niggas would think Easy was nice, you know what I'm saying, so he know.
MC Breed: He ain't come out with nothing too wrong for me. I gotta hear some shit. I know once when I was in L.A. I saw Breed at Fattburger and that nigga just took me into the room and just got me smoked out. He had me listening to some ill beats and shit that he work on production too and I didn't know that. That's a plus for MC's. If you can make your own beats you got props because producing is better than being an artist.
Warren G: That's my man. Nigga came to Brooklyn, he came to check me. He just came to hood and shit, pulled up in a little Crysler, jumped out and Warren G was on the ave. drinking Crazyhorse and shit, you know what I'm saying' 'cause I ain't gonna lie, I ain't going to his hood, staight up!
Wu-Tang Clan/Method Man: Wu-Tang is hot! I like their shit. I love that shit. I like their shit because they have a real I don't give a fuck attitude. 'We in this game to blow the fuck up! We don't give a fuck what happens. All of us is gonna do our thing and we just gonna do it.' And they just did it. You can hear punches, you hear so much shit in that album you know damn these guys is not giving a fuck. At the beginning of CREAM, when that shit start!! Voila! Oh my God, this is some rushed shit but I dig it.
The Roots: The Roots album. The Roots album is hot! On the strength, they rock the whole album for a whole hour. I was definetly in dibelief. I like the single, I really did but other people were like, 'Single was hot but I wasn't paying attention to the album at all.'
Bonus Questions:
Did you dis The Roots on the remix for "Flavour in your ear"?
"I stepped to them about that. They heard about it but they knew I said Gooch (a character on the Gary Coleman, Todd Bridges, Dano Plato series Different Strokes) so that's all they cared about. As long as they knew I wasn't trying to dis them. It's over."
Are you really the crew who will take it to that other level if someone steps to you?
"For real! For real! We be banging! We be banging! We're definitely the crew that just go out of the world. We take it to the extra extra limit. I mean that shit from the bottom of my fuckin' heart. Cold blow your head off. Fuck the rap. Fuck Puff, Fuck Arista, Clive, BMG!!! I don't give a fuck. It's over!!! Anything happen to me it's over!! They just throw the whole shit in the toilet. I don't give a fuck, we banging now! Everything is switched over for real man. A nigga ain't gonna dis me. Nigga's is not dissing me, man!!!!
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good read... 8) 8)
Big comes across like Joe Budden
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good read... 8) 8)
Big comes across like Joe Budden
hahaha
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I like biggie dude was a real nigga he shouldnt get dissed for voicing his opinion.
E-40>biggie tho
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I like biggie dude was a real nigga he shouldnt get dissed for voicing his opinion.
E-40>biggie tho
Biggie was miles ahead of e40
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I like biggie dude was a real nigga he shouldnt get dissed for voicing his opinion.
E-40>biggie tho
Biggie was miles ahead of e40
^not in a million years.
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I like biggie dude was a real nigga he shouldnt get dissed for voicing his opinion.
E-40>biggie tho
Biggie was miles ahead of e40
^not in a million years.
Ready to Die trumps E40's entire catalogue
the hardcore tracks like Gimmie the Loot, Respectl, Things Done Changed etc. to the lyrical tails of the hardshells of life in Everyday Struggle and Suicidal Thoughtz.
and a bomb single in Big Poppa (Juicy was over rated though)
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it dont matter, E-40 is still a better mc than Chris Wallace
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it dont matter, E-40 is still a better mc than Chris Wallace
in what world? E-40 probably isn't a better emcee than Rashweed Wallace
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Ready to Die trumps E40's entire catalogue
Hell no
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Literally
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your just deislusioned n desioriented wit ur beliefs tho
hiphop-ilumiinati makes u believe what they want u to believe
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this interview appears to have been done before Thug Life came out, with those references to "Out on Bail" and LG
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I should have been more specific.
I like e-40 more than biggie.
Although im not stupid biggie is a way better mc. But dont think e-40 cant rap. You not in this game for over 20 plus yeara with no skills.
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I should have been more specific.
I like e-40 more than biggie.
Although im not stupid biggie is a way better mc. But dont think e-40 cant rap. You not in this game for over 20 plus yeara with no skills.
I like certain e40 verses but overall i don't care for him
but yes as you pointed out Biggie was the much better emcee. too bad Biggie never had a chance to evolve...same with the rest of the dead rapper society (Pac, L, Pun, Kadafi, Proof, Eyedea etc)
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I like biggie dude was a real nigga he shouldnt get dissed for voicing his opinion.
Exactly, but it could've gotten him killed, lol.
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Stupid fool. Spice-1 a ZERO. But yet he loves all the dangerous crew! As I re-call Spice-1 was a member when they made that interview.
I guess because it was a TORONTO free magazine "NOW" he thought nobody would read it.
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rating other people is something bitches do in high school
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Props for putting that out. I only found out about that incident on beef where Biggie wasn't a fan of E40. And 40 waters fans took it too far.
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biggie (...) shouldnt get dissed for voicing his opinion.
exactly... i prefer someone like biggie with his own opinion, however disrespectful he might come off as, and his personality than just another cowish rapper diggin the shit out of every other rapper. at least he's speakin his mind.
I'm a huge 40 waters fan, but i'll never say he was better than biggie. apparently when biggie got set up in Sac and E-40 solved the situation with a phone call, they became cool and e-40 was supposed to be featured on life after deat. would have been interesting.
anyhow, i wonder why big was hatin so much on e-40 and spice specifically. he rates highly other left coast mc's and pac friends (mc breed) but he gives a zero to 2 of the coldest rappers of the day. now i understand why he would give 40 a 0 since his style is so particular but shit when you hear Spice's shit like welcome to the ghetto or murda show it's instant classic, so when he gave them 0 he was definitely more hating than anything else.
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back in the day spice 1 was way better then biggie.i admit e-40 was wack back then.but e-40 skills became on point around loyalty & betrayal album.every since then e-40 been one of the top spitters.but it sound like biggie didnt like much westcoast beats or raps.but at least he gave it up 4 dj quik,snoop,too short & rage.
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how can he not love like much westcoast beats or raps when he's praising every westcoast mc hes asked about except for spice and 40 ??
and 40 was way better in the 90's than in the 00's... federal, mail man and in a major way are huge classics. musically he will never approach again the level of greatness that studio ton, k-lou, funkdaddy, sam bostic & mike mosley brought. rapwise, it's hard to trump the dopeness of a "drought season" or "outsmart the popo". 40 managed to stay relevant in the 00's but he wasn't as great as during the mobb music heyday.
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how can he not love like much westcoast beats or raps when he's praising every westcoast mc hes asked about except for spice and 40 ??
and 40 was way better in the 90's than in the 00's... federal, mail man and in a major way are huge classics. musically he will never approach again the level of greatness that studio ton, k-lou, funkdaddy, sam bostic & mike mosley brought. rapwise, it's hard to trump the dopeness of a "drought season" or "outsmart the popo". 40 managed to stay relevant in the 00's but he wasn't as great as during the mobb music heyday.
lmao.u crazy!e-40 was wack ass hell back then.e-40 didnt learn how 2 rap untill he dropped loyalty & betrayal,every since then he been one of my favoirite rappers.& u must didnt read the interview right.he was downing westcoast beats.like dude he was dissing westcoast beats & raps.
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how can he not love like much westcoast beats or raps when he's praising every westcoast mc hes asked about except for spice and 40 ??
and 40 was way better in the 90's than in the 00's... federal, mail man and in a major way are huge classics. musically he will never approach again the level of greatness that studio ton, k-lou, funkdaddy, sam bostic & mike mosley brought. rapwise, it's hard to trump the dopeness of a "drought season" or "outsmart the popo". 40 managed to stay relevant in the 00's but he wasn't as great as during the mobb music heyday.
lmao.u crazy!e-40 was wack ass hell back then.e-40 didnt learn how 2 rap untill he dropped loyalty & betrayal,every since then he been one of my favoirite rappers.& u must didnt read the interview right.he was downing westcoast beats.like dude he was dissing westcoast beats & raps.
Helll nawww alll my og's was bumpin thr fuck out of the click and e-40. Dude was raw every og i met knew every word of mr flamboyant. And thats real cuzz. How you gonna put him down in his best moment.
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KRS-One: KRS-One?? Naahhh...I don't like KRS no more 'cause he just think he's too dope. He let his ego take over his shit and that's what brings him down. When he was like that (shouts "Blow it to yorself"), when he was like that, then he was a ten but now, 'I am Hip Hop'!!! Eat a dick nigga. Eat a muthaphukkin' dick!
Biggie was never that great to me, and how do you give Outkast a 6????? But, this is the truth though
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how can he not love like much westcoast beats or raps when he's praising every westcoast mc hes asked about except for spice and 40 ??
and 40 was way better in the 90's than in the 00's... federal, mail man and in a major way are huge classics. musically he will never approach again the level of greatness that studio ton, k-lou, funkdaddy, sam bostic & mike mosley brought. rapwise, it's hard to trump the dopeness of a "drought season" or "outsmart the popo". 40 managed to stay relevant in the 00's but he wasn't as great as during the mobb music heyday.
STR8 up! I aint trying to hear any music that 40 made after "hall of game"....
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how can he not love like much westcoast beats or raps when he's praising every westcoast mc hes asked about except for spice and 40 ??
and 40 was way better in the 90's than in the 00's... federal, mail man and in a major way are huge classics. musically he will never approach again the level of greatness that studio ton, k-lou, funkdaddy, sam bostic & mike mosley brought. rapwise, it's hard to trump the dopeness of a "drought season" or "outsmart the popo". 40 managed to stay relevant in the 00's but he wasn't as great as during the mobb music heyday.
lmao.u crazy!e-40 was wack ass hell back then.e-40 didnt learn how 2 rap untill he dropped loyalty & betrayal,every since then he been one of my favoirite rappers.& u must didnt read the interview right.he was downing westcoast beats.like dude he was dissing westcoast beats & raps.
WTF are you talking about? E-40's earlier stuff blows away his later stuff. I stopped checking out his albums after Charlie Hustle (I mean I listen to them a few times, but nothing like how I listen to his older albums) His older shit was way ahead of its time.
Biggie is cool, but In a Major Way > a compilation album of Biggies best songs.
I think both e40 and spice 1 have fallen off, but in the 90's they were much better than biggie
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interview is fake imo
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interview is fake imo
the interview is not fake at all homie, this is why biggie was almost killed by 40 water's people....all this shyt was very real it did go down...biggie was jus young n dumb thinkin he was the shyt when he was just an average lyricist at best but had a nice flow, his flow is what got him big not his lyrics, i seen better storytellers before him: slick rick, snoop ect...Rakim woulda ate big alive as an mc any day...rakim, the doc, 2pac them niggaz biggie couldnt fuck wit at all only ny niggaz talk all that shyt bout biggie cause thats all they had..shyt even nas could tore biggie ass up lyrically
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Its amazing how much hate biggie gets on this site. Yall niggaz some bitch azz ho dickriders. Biggie would have eaten probably every westcoast mc period point blank. You can argue all you want but its a fucking fact that east coast rappers are better lyricist. That aint no opinion either.
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Its amazing how much hate biggie gets on this site. Yall niggaz some bitch azz ho dickriders. Biggie would have eaten probably every westcoast mc period point blank. You can argue all you want but its a fucking fact that east coast rappers are better lyricist. That aint no opinion either.
Lmao u catchin feelings? truth hurts nigga dont it lol ;)
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Catchin feelings hell naw. I dont know yall ho niggaz i just like arguing because most of you niggaz are idiots talking stupid. Like your voice is the final decision. If niggaz thought 40 was wack they was probably in the south or east coast cuz midwest and west loved him.
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Catchin feelings hell naw. I dont know yall ho niggaz i just like arguing because most of you niggaz are idiots talking stupid. Like your voice is the final decision. If niggaz thought 40 was wack they was probably in the south or east coast cuz midwest and west loved him.
well im glad we agree on something the west loves 40 waters like no otha, & no i aint the final decision at all but neither was big ;)
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You can argue all you want but its a fucking fact that east coast rappers are better lyricist. That aint no opinion either.
yeah nigga? Gift of Gab would rap circles around any east coast rapper
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this interview has been circulating the net since like 03 with nothing to back it up....no magazine scans or audio clips or anything, i heard that he said some shit on the radio about bay area rappers in general and thats how the beef kicked off.
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Its amazing how much hate biggie gets on this site. Yall niggaz some bitch azz ho dickriders. Biggie would have eaten probably every westcoast mc period point blank. You can argue all you want but its a fucking fact that east coast rappers are better lyricist. That aint no opinion either.
c'mon man, with statements like that you just sound like a complete moron. Claiming that east coast rappers are better lyricists and that it is a fact and not an opinion? Get fucking real. It is 100% opinion. If it were fact then you would be able to prove it. Its all opinion man.
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This interview is real & was discussed in this segment from The Notorious B.i.G.'s "Bigger Than Life" DVD.
https://www.youtube.com/v/ibOMqINc_m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibOMqINc_m8)
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Biggie is a one note MC. He is great at doing what he does but he never achieves anything more than being a coke rapper. E-40 will always prevail as a more prolific rapper than Biggie.
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Catchin feelings hell naw. I dont know yall ho niggaz i just like arguing because most of you niggaz are idiots talking stupid. Like your voice is the final decision. If niggaz thought 40 was wack they was probably in the south or east coast cuz midwest and west loved him.
man even in the south 40 was big. maybe not in ATL but in Houston, Dallas, NO, or Memphis he was gettin much luv
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Its amazing how much hate biggie gets on this site. Yall niggaz some bitch azz ho dickriders. Biggie would have eaten probably every westcoast mc period point blank. You can argue all you want but its a fucking fact that east coast rappers are better lyricist. That aint no opinion either.
c'mon man, with statements like that you just sound like a complete moron. Claiming that east coast rappers are better lyricists and that it is a fact and not an opinion? Get fucking real. It is 100% opinion. If it were fact then you would be able to prove it. Its all opinion man.
Dude the fucking albums itself prove it. Illmatic, stress:extinction era, wratth of the math, sun rises in the east. Alllll the super high classic albums that everyone says are eastcoast albums. Domt get me wrong i love westcoast more than anything but get fucking real dogg. You seriously gonna tell me that gift of gab can fuck with pharoe monch. Or even canibus. Ras kass better than lets say big l, hieroglyphics better than wu tang???? Really now. I know you didnt say those things but you sort of did. East coast emcees are overall better lyricists and that Is a FACT. Like i said im a westcoast head(bay area in particular) so dont put that bias shit on me im just keeping it real.
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You seriously gonna tell me that gift of gab can fuck with pharoe monch.
GoG owns Monch or any other corny motherfucker you come up with
Big L? Seriously? You're gonna bring up a dude whose greatest accomplishment is a corny beavis and butthead line? LMAO.
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that bevis and butthead line was classic if you heard it in its original context when he first freestyled it...twenty years later not so hot.
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both coasts got lyricst but unfortunetly lyrics is what the east was known for the westcoast lyrical niggas were always seen as novelty acts and the gangster rappers were always promoted as the face of wc hiphop when in all reality it shold have been vice versa in order for the art form to progress as a whole.
in order for a ras kass to gain some recognition he had to align himself with dre a gangster rap producer...etc.
gog is sweet but fucking with monch? naw
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Doesn't matter how old it is, that butthead line is corny as fuck. I can't see how niggas can think that line is sick but shit on all the corny shit weezy says.
aight man, give me a Monch verse that fucks with this. No one can spit like this nigga. Plus 3 classic albums? Cmon son.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqTu3Juvz6g
Nothing against Monch, he's extremely dope. He's basically a less talented version of Gift of Gab, which still makes an amazing emcee.
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Biggie is a one note MC. He is great at doing what he does but he never achieves anything more than being a coke rapper. E-40 will always prevail as a more prolific rapper than Biggie.
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I like biggie dude was a real nigga he shouldnt get dissed for voicing his opinion.
E-40>biggie tho
Biggie was miles ahead of e40
^not in a million years.
Ready to Die trumps E40's entire catalogue
the hardcore tracks like Gimmie the Loot, Respectl, Things Done Changed etc. to the lyrical tails of the hardshells of life in Everyday Struggle and Suicidal Thoughtz.
and a bomb single in Big Poppa (Juicy was over rated though)
you should kill yourself today not tomorrow
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To quote the great Suge Knight took those bullets like a fat bitch. ;D