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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: INGlewood4Life on December 21, 2009, 07:57:45 AM
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I've been listenin' to Battlecats' recent work and it is nowhere how it was back during Eastsidaz , REMIX for DAZ it might sound crazy, Snoop Jus dippin' REMIX and countless others!!!! The secrets track on Malice was ok but it didn't floor me like the work of old!!!! The G & Sexy album????????????? The soundz Cat was layin' back then still K-NoCK to this day!!!!!!!!!!!! If you read this Cat........... You are by far one of the dopest producers to touch a drum machine!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still remember Quik sayin' that you gave him the drum track to the most famous G -Funk cut to his name...........TONIGHT!!!!!!!!! Cat just make that slap we all know and love!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace!!!!!!!!!! Don't cha'll agree???? 8)
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Battlecat has never been one of my favourites, he's indeed a good producer but a good portion of his material I've heard has sounded the same to me.That Bishop Lamont and Suga Free track he produced a few months ago was hot tho!
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a good portion of his material I've heard has sounded the same to me
yeah indeed and that the biggest problem he had with his recent productions. g & sexy is particulary boring to listen coz you have this impression to listen the same prod on all the album
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I disagree about Secrets that's classic BC.
What are other tracks he's done this year?
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Battlecat has made some real dope cuts, but I can't tell you how many times I've heard him use the same drum samples over and over again. Example: the same drum sample that Deep Cover uses.
and Tonite isn't g-funk, g-funk wasn't around then :-X
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Just heard the production he did for Snoop, man he hasn't lost a step what are you talking about. It's a shame Snoop and Kokane had to be on the song though.
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Just heard the production he did for Snoop, man he hasn't lost a step what are you talking about. It's a shame Snoop and Kokane had to be on the song though.
u must be the first Battlecat fan who dislikes Snoop & Kokane lol
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amplified is the new battlecat...
http://www.myspace.com/amplifiedmusic
that christmass tree beat is :o
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Just heard the production he did for Snoop, man he hasn't lost a step what are you talking about.
"Secrets" is 5 years old, it's originally a Kokane solo track.
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okka real talk
where do you rank bc on a producers list of dopeness amongst others?
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okka real talk
where do you rank bc on a producers list of dopeness amongst others?
I'd say he's in my "top 10 producers". It's true that he has a lot of beats that sound the same but he has made a lot of classic shit though. His sound has never been "worldwide" or how do you say it, he always had that West Coast sound in his beats though.
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aite glad you pointed that out...he isnt anythin special as in anythin thats str8 westcoast or str8 bangin where as fredwreck can make some str8 bangin westcoast shit that isnt borin
like you mentioned alot of cats production sounds the same but its the sound thats borin
like some of jelly roll or his brothers work might sound the same but its bangin
thats the problem with battle cat his work doesnt always sound dope....and if it does it sounds the same but top on the westcoast is bout right prolly on the higher end
name bc's best work and theres a good chance fred or others have done better
so noone can really put him as the best producer ever...which some have but id take battle cat>>>dj quik
unless it was dj quik at his absolute best game which he always isnt IMO
okka real talk
where do you rank bc on a producers list of dopeness amongst others?
I'd say he's in my "top 10 producers". It's true that he has a lot of beats that sound the same but he has made a lot of classic shit though. His sound has never been "worldwide" or how do you say it, he always had that West Coast sound in his beats though.
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8)I agree
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Actually Fredwreck has some sounds too that he uses a lot in his beats, but Battlecat has beats that sound "identical" to some other beats he made. Both of them are in my "top 10 producers" list though, they both made a lot of classic beats. I like both of them more than DJ Quik, he's a great producer too but i don't like some of his beats that much.
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I love Fredwreck's music but I would choose to listen to this Battlecat production over anything he's done.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JA9St4I2TfY&hl=en_US&fs=1&
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again its not that battle cat is wack but up against fred and quik and jelly roll
fred wins and yeah freds work does sound the same but its doper and has more bass
but quik got more of a dre influenced style
and battle cat got more of a above the law style IMO but his style is laid back and soft and sometimes can be borin
quik is overrated tho
and that nah nah song is one of his best and different cuz it sounds different compared to his other work
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They all have very different styles, so I mean to say Fredwreck is better because he has more bass is not really a characteristic to judge all of them by.
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nah im not sayin fredwreck is better cuz he has more bass..not at all
like i said battle cat is a dope producer but his work sounds alike and simple and doesnt change up
where as freds does but it also sounds the same and changes up
hes really the next producer thats next to dre that can cook up some dretox type material
but real talk khalil can make better muzik overall than battle cat and hes proven what he can do so far which is make bangers and his work sounds the same but again its complicated which is a good thing and battle cats work isnt complicated
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I love Fredwreck's music but I would choose to listen to this Battlecat production over anything he's done.
Damn, i never liked that "Nah Nah" beat/track at all.
again its not that battle cat is wack but up against fred and quik and jelly roll
fred wins and yeah freds work does sound the same but its doper and has more bass
but quik got more of a dre influenced style
and battle cat got more of a above the law style IMO but his style is laid back and soft and sometimes can be borin
quik is overrated tho
Hahah, i always felt that Fredwreck has that Dr. Dre's "2001" sound in most of his beats, but to each his own. Yeah, you right about Battlecat though, most of his beats are laid back and smooth. Have you heard Mr. Short Khop's "Flashbacks"? It's a Battlecat beat but not like his usual beats and it's tight as fuck.
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yeah its not that i didnt like nah nah...its mos def dope and gots to be one of his best ever but compared to what fred can do and has done....its not the best and cant and isnt better than freds sound
but yeah your right fred has that 2001 sound
but if quik really put in some work he could be much better than battle cat
quik is a talented producer but he doesnt put in work all the time otherwise talent wise and as far as whos better quik could surpass battle cats range of THE MAKIN OF A BANGA
okka check it out
name 3 of the best pieces of work by battle cat, quik and fred
fredwreck
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dj quik
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battle cat
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I love Fredwreck's music but I would choose to listen to this Battlecat production over anything he's done.
Damn, i never liked that "Nah Nah" beat/track at all.
again its not that battle cat is wack but up against fred and quik and jelly roll
fred wins and yeah freds work does sound the same but its doper and has more bass
but quik got more of a dre influenced style
and battle cat got more of a above the law style IMO but his style is laid back and soft and sometimes can be borin
quik is overrated tho
Hahah, i always felt that Fredwreck has that Dr. Dre's "2001" sound in most of his beats, but to each his own. Yeah, you right about Battlecat though, most of his beats are laid back and smooth. Have you heard Mr. Short Khop's "Flashbacks"? It's a Battlecat beat but not like his usual beats and it's tight as fuck.
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I'll list the 5 best beats from all of them. Not in order though
Battlecat
-213 - MLK
-Ice Cube - 24' Mo Hours
-Tha Eastsidaz - G'd Up
-Snoop Dogg - Just Dippin (Battlecat G-Mix)
-Snoop Dogg - Backup Hoe
Xzibit's "Get Your Walk On" is another beat from Battlecat that sounds real different compared to most of his stuff, i'd say that's one of my favorites from him too.
Fredwreck
-Tray Deee - IzUWitIt
-Kurupt - On, Onsite
-Knoc-Turn'Al - Let's All Roll (Remix)
-FT (feat. Tha Eastsidaz) - High Times
-Snoop Dogg, RBX & MC Ren - Legend Of Jimmy Bones
Obie Trice's "Follow My Life" is a beat from Fredwreck that's different compared to most of his stuff and i gotta say that's one of my favorite beats from him.
DJ Quik
-DJ Quik - Tonite
-DJ Quik - Safe + Sound
-DJ Quik - It's Like Everyday
-Kurupt - Can't Go Wrong
-Snoop Dogg - Don't Tell
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im gonna do 5 for each
fredwreck
1. crip-a-fied - eastsidaz
2. who ride wit us - kurupt
3. callin out names - kurupt
4. gangsta rap - dogg pound
5. big ballin - tray dee
dj quik
1. quik's groove v
2. tonite
3. we still party
4. divorce song
5. hearts of men - 2pac
battle cat
1. we can freak it - kurupt
2. i luv it - eastsidaz
3. dollaz drank n dank - short khop
4. ballin - snoop dogg
5. nah nah - e40
actually i wanna replace the tray dee song on my fredwreck list with kurupt - everybody knows. thaat beat was insane
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aite jus from those traxx alone...fred has the best work IMO and thats bein fair to all producers
and some of those arent even freds best but compared to the ones mentioned they are better and more in-depth
you know im likin dae one alot and at times it seems like his work sounds better than battle cat and by that i mean dae one's got his own sound but its dope
its jus that battle cat doesnt have the dopeness in his muzik, same with dj quik
but difference with quik is dj quik at his very best, ABSOLUTE BEST HE Could prolly make better muzik that sounds doper and on some next generation type of shit
and thats why i like dae one....dae one makin some bangers for real and hes a new g in the game but what hes doin is on some other shit for bein new
same with khalil
mel-man at his very best>>>>>
and didnt mel-man help battle cat with get your walk on?
which is by far one of the best hits from this decade IMO
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mel-man at his very best>>>>>
Mel-Man is a good producer, he hasn't produced so many solo beats but most of the beats he done by himself are GREAT. You can't really compare himself cause he doesn't have that many material out. He made a lot of classic shit with Dr. Dre though but not as a solo producer.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=109785.0
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well yeah mel-man is in a way like battle cat that he has his on style and its laid back but what i meant was that mel-man at his very best could cook somethin up better than what battle cat could...he jus hasnt but what mel-man has done has been dope
jus from the 5 traxx you mentioned...what 5 from what producer you think are the best?
mel-man at his very best>>>>>
Mel-Man is a good producer, he hasn't produced so many solo beats but most of the beats he done by himself are GREAT. You can't really compare himself cause he doesn't have that many material out. He made a lot of classic shit with Dr. Dre though but not as a solo producer.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=109785.0
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jus from the 5 traxx you mentioned...what 5 from what producer you think are the best?
Battlecat's, i'm sayin' him cause out of all those tracks those 5 are the tracks i have listened to the most.
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thats waz up i listen to pretty much all them especially battle cat and fredwrecks traxx of those 5 but from that list IMO fred has the best pieces of work
but again dj quik at his absolute best could be as dope as dre IMO
dj quik can cook up some shit that not jelly roll, blaqtoven, daz etc...would be able to cook up amd prolly not even fred n battle cat but again thats quik at his absolute best and he hasnt been at his best in a minute
but that jus dippin is one of the coldest beats to ever surface on this planet IMO
jus from the 5 traxx you mentioned...what 5 from what producer you think are the best?
Battlecat's, i'm sayin' him cause out of all those tracks those 5 are the tracks i have listened to the most.
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but that jus dippin is one of the coldest beats to ever surface on this planet IMO
Yeah, the original version is a classic too but i always liked the Battlecat remix more.
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the og is prolly better overall but both are dope
but that jus dippin is one of the coldest beats to ever surface on this planet IMO
Yeah, the original version is a classic too but i always liked the Battlecat remix more.
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Battlecat is my favorite producer rite now (and has been for a while), i just enjoy the type of beats he makes, the feel of them. on my itunes i list producers so i can look at songs by producer, anyway i can put Battlecats songs on all day and play some games or smokin, whatever.
props on the links, i was diggin those Christmas instrumentals by BC he def added his touch! All the instrumentals on those 2 pages were dope!
anybody got any of those instrumentals mp3? i really want some of those!
a top 3 produced songs will be hard, this list could easily change
1 Lost Angels in the Sky- Lost Angels
1.5 We Can Freak It- Kurupt
2 Dollaz, Drank & Dank- Short Khop
2.5 God Save Me- Ruff Dog (love how the beat switches up in every verse)
3 On the Grind- Kokane
3.5 Put Your Hands Up- Doggys Angels
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good topic
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good topic
whats up Amp ?
whats going on with you ? Anything dropping soon ?
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Call me nostalgic but I am a big fan of the classic BC material, such as Sest In The West, Banging On Wax, even more recent tracks such as Cali is active...
But to me BattleCat is still my favorite producer!
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I would agree but then I heard "secrets"
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1. Can someone up the Version of "Secrets" without Snoop.. okka mentioned it..
2. Battlecat is a great producer. I love his style because it is really soulfull! Listen to Faith Evans "Faithfully" or "Just A Dance" by Deborah Cox. That's the sound i was searching for soooo long. it is creative and originial too. Todays producers (like warren or daz) always look to other producers and copies them.. I mean listen to warrens new album or compare daz productions with live instruments from the death row days with his todays tracks.. look, the only one who really keep his style and develope it in a real and succesfull way is Dre, Quik and Battlecat..
Fredwreck is dope! IMO you cannot compare him with battlecat because of the differences in their music styles. That's like you compare apple juice with cola!
Blaqthoven and Jelly Roll are both scolars of battlecat.. even terrace martin!!! and now Amplified. This man gaves a lot of talented guys the chance to work with him and learn from him. Does this Quik or Fredwreck?
@Amp
Tell Battlecat that he should come to this forum or get in contact with DubCC to get an interview!! We need him back on the map!
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Here are some dope rare Battlecat productions.. he even work with some underground cats.. that's a way to support the west coast! Dre should do the same!
http://www.youtube.com/v/WMpK4PNDsfo&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/5ruCZ4gB9VA&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/QI82En2HLi8&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/GRosmJr6Y48&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/bV8c2kc3Nlk&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/pTblHXeCNzk&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/GRyEEjdzhm0&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/kd1U2XNBQN0&hl=de_DE&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/hXoK5Su0JYA&hl=de_DE&fs=1
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there is sumthin missing on today's Battlecat production
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@Amp
Tell Battlecat that he should come to this forum or get in contact with DubCC to get an interview!! We need him back on the map!
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Check out 'Blowed Out My Mind' (AKA I'm 2High) of Daz's Who Ride Wit Us. Vol 4 - Classic Cat!
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I never of this bookie rapper, but he's wack, and those beats knock
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Maybe cat has lost a step but who on the west hasnt im pretty sure when the west gets on track all the producers from the west will too.
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Battlecat is my favorite producer rite now (and has been for a while), i just enjoy the type of beats he makes, the feel of them. on my itunes i list producers so i can look at songs by producer, anyway i can put Battlecats songs on all day and play some games or smokin, whatever.
props on the links, i was diggin those Christmas instrumentals by BC he def added his touch! All the instrumentals on those 2 pages were dope!
anybody got any of those instrumentals mp3? i really want some of those!
a top 3 produced songs will be hard, this list could easily change
1 Lost Angels in the Sky- Lost Angels
1.5 We Can Freak It- Kurupt
2 Dollaz, Drank & Dank- Short Khop
2.5 God Save Me- Ruff Dog (love how the beat switches up in every verse)
3 On the Grind- Kokane
3.5 Put Your Hands Up- Doggys Angels
hell yeah that beat is one of my favourites!
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I think most producers discography will have a lot of the same vibe and sound to it. it is their signature.. from east to west.. dj premier, just blaze, neptunes, swizz beats, battlecat, dj quik, lil jon, scott storch... they have all had their time of BIG commercial success. Cat's most prominent time was probably from 99-02.. he was getting singles.. we can freak it, g'd up, high come down, nah nah nah...... His signature was in demand then.
times changed. Cat's sound has also changed tremendously.. it's unfortunate that most people don't get to hear all the stuff he does and submits to artists. i've had the "secrets" beat for probably 4 years.. not sure why snoop would pick that one over some others i've seen cat tailor make him..
all that to say i don't think Cat has lost anything.. He's a talented dude and has contributed a lot to music..
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yeah you know i was jus thinkin bout this that cat never lost anythin...his style has always been this laid back style and low key profile
but talent wise lately he hasnt done much on a big scale for snoop or others
that secrets song might be dope but on a bigger scale for a bigger artist he could have made a much bigger song that could lift the coast up
i mean if hes possibly the best producer ever.....some have called him the best producer ever then how come the best producer ever isnt cookin up some of the craziest pieces of work?
and thats part of the problem he hasnt been gettin singles which is what im sayin...why tho?
can he make single worthy material?
yeah he can....so why hasnt he?
has snoop been ignorin him? lol
maybe battle cat can be the one to get snoop outta this commercialized industry cuz snoop makin pussy cat dolls muzik
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Battlecat has never been one of my favourites, he's indeed a good producer but a good portion of his material I've heard has sounded the same to me.
I've got to quote you, I used to think he was almost the best but no, his beats always sound the same... they used to be dope, but he should change.
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damn its crazy tho a majority of the people in this thread agree that battle cat's production sounds the same which is why i think hes never maybe gotten the credit or blown up as a producer vs others
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Battlecat has never been one of my favourites, he's indeed a good producer but a good portion of his material I've heard has sounded the same to me.
I've got to quote you, I used to think he was almost the best but no, his beats always sound the same... they used to be dope, but he should change.
If it aint broke why fix it ???
BC got that signature sound and it cant get more westcoast than that
We aint heard much from him these past years though
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BattleCat has definitely a signature sound but overall he is versatile, Quik's beats also have a strong signature, Dre as well; it's better to have this kind of sound rather that BC screaming on the tracks lol!
After this I agree with Soopa, you don't change a winning team, I'd rather listen new material which sounds somehow similarly to the old songs but feels good, rather than a brand new sound which comes up disapointing.
And I also agree on this point : You can't get more WestCoast than Dj BattleCat.
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BattleCat has definitely a signature sound but overall he is versatile, Quik's beats also have a strong signature, Dre as well; it's better to have this kind of sound rather that BC screaming on the tracks lol!
After this I agree with Soopa, you don't change a winning team, I'd rather listen new material which sounds somehow similarly to the old songs but feels good, rather than a brand new sound which comes up disapointing.
And I also agree on this point : You can't get more WestCoast than Dj BattleCat.
My point exactly
+1
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https://www.youtube.com/v/VcvhpbcK4lo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcvhpbcK4lo)
Battlecat makin' a beat
Amazing :o
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How bout dis ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeSxroKw28o
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^^ this one's dope too
i'd like to know what happened to the mixtape he was supposed to release ???
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fuck you battle cats is top 5 best west producer.
he produced a lot of underground classsics... he is not workin wid artist these days...maybe he not feelin most of them
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anyone have a link to the deborah cox song.. can someone please hook me up 'Just A Dance
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Battlecat needs to leak that Christmas song with Snoop & Kokane, this song was greAT!!!
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He needs to move to Cassel and check his head . He can go to Old Station and hang out by the stream.
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i knew some would take it as others sayin battle cat is wack
ont think anyone sayin hes wack...jus sayin his style is simple and not complicated compared to others
its competition and he has his own sound but alot of it isnt good enough for albums it seems like
and then you have a dope producer like quik that doesnt do enough work
quik at his best could outshine battle cat and others, but he jus doesnt
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You can't get more WestCoast than Dj BattleCat.
A huge fan of Quiks, but I couldn't agree more with you.
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To: Dollars & Sense.......................Tonight is considered G funk>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poll it if you think I'm lyin' get ya facts straight........ROOKIE
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lol
To: Dollars & Sense.......................Tonight is considered G funk>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poll it if you think I'm lyin' get ya facts straight........ROOKIE
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One of my favorite Battlecat beats is (Lucy Pearl - You Feat. Q Tip and Snoop Dogg ) 8) 8) 8)
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That Faith Evans and Battlecat cut is on point too Too Smooth 8) 8)
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One of my favorite cuts is Sets in Tha West from I Smooth 7's album, the instrumental is incredible