West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Jome on November 24, 2002, 02:46:53 AM
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Is it just me, or is this pretty average to be a Dre-beat??
I don't like Brooklyn on this neither, she does nothing to the song.
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Is it just me, or is this pretty average to be a Dre-beat??
I don't like Brooklyn on this neither, she does nothing to the song.
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well im sorry to burst yall bubbles but thas
a dre EASTCOAST style beat and its dark and grimey
and that song bangs here out east
im sorry if u expected 50 cent to kneel and suck westcoast sick jus cause he on aftermath but
maybe dre wants world wide and not jus westside
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Its a'ight.. nothing special. Nice to have some new Aftermath shit.. but this aint all that hot if you ask me..
Ax
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well im sorry to burst yall bubbles but thas
a dre EASTCOAST style beat and its dark and grimey
and that song bangs here out east
im sorry if u expected 50 cent to kneel and suck westcoast sick jus cause he on aftermath but
maybe dre wants world wide and not jus westside
Believe me d00d, I have heard much better "Eastcoast" beats than this.
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I got my doubts on weather Dre can pull off a grimy Hardcore east coast project like this... I don’t need any more Firm flashbacks and that was suposto be Industry club shit. Dre needs to give '50 Shot Ya or any of the shit he was doing with trackmasters a listen and really sit down and figure out what style sounds best. This shit needs to be a authentic eastcoast street album. A moderately west coast influenced, experimental sound isn’t gonna fly IMO.
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firm wasnt dre's fault...
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firm wasnt dre's fault...
No doubt, I wasn’t saying that fell solely on Dre the whole project was a disaster "Fiasco" from the conception of a Eastcoast lyricists/WestCoast production lp all the way to "Firm Biz." Personally I think its too bad dre was even associated with that, all I'm saying is I don’t want to see another flawed project. An if you remember.. the Firm album was hyped up just as much as this 50 album is. The track record can speak for itself so I'm just goin by the numbers on this one nothing more. dre really did his thing on "Phone Tap" and "Firm Family" if you ask me..classic shit.
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"Phone Tap" and "Firm Family" if you ask me..classic shit.
Those where the only two song that really moved me. ::)
The Firm was way too over hyped!
Seer.. whos fault was it? Give us your detailed view.
Ax
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"Phone Tap" and "Firm Family" if you ask me..classic shit.
Those where the only two song that really moved me. ::)
The Firm was way too over hyped!
Seer.. whos fault was it? Give us your detailed view.
Ax
dre really did his thing on "Phone Tap" and "Firm Family" if you ask me..classic shit.
and that about summed about dre's involvement most of the rest of the production on the album was handled by trackmaters tone+poke.. who went on to create.. kurupts 'its over' lol. the firm flop was steve stoutes fault, dre only had 48 hrs with them. thats all. they created a fake super-crew. they told everyone they put it together because they're all great and that it was a business move, cormega was booted and replaced with az because cormega wasnt managed by steve stoute so he wouldnt get as much money. people see through these fake crews, and they dont hold together and be loyal like 'real crews'.
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cormega was booted and replaced with az
Cormega was replaced by Nature. Dre also said in an interview that the whole firm thing was all about money, that's why there are 5 different logos on the back of the cd. It was all about money for the record companies.
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mah bad.. i'm at work, cant check the archives :)
yeah money money money.... and they didnt hide the fact.. then wondered why the public didnt fall for it... duh!
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"and that about summed about dre's involvement most of the rest of the production on the album was handled by trackmaters tone+pokethe"
...Remember those ("FirmFamily" & "Phone Tap") were JUST the good tracks Dre did. He also did "Five Minutes to Flush" ( :-\) and "Firm Fiasco" PLUS two intros. All toghter Dre handled 1/3 of the Firms album production, SIX tracks, only two of witch were good. So one could make the argument that dre is responsible for 1/3 or that alums failure. And with that cormega thing yea he didnt sign a production deal with Trackmasters because he thought they were extorting him so he refused to sign and they got him booted.. cause like u said there was no real luv.
peace
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Yea.. that really showed how loyal fuckin Nas is. He may be a great MC.. but he aint and never has been in creative control of his music.
Ever since he signed to Trackmasters.. hes been shittin on his own hood! I bet Nas dont even visit the Bridge anymore. I bet they just run his ass right on outta there. It's a shame.. He shouldve been down for Mega. Even if it meant scrappin the project.
Ax
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i havent heard this but the brooklyn song on the shday sampler sounds pretty sick thought ive only heard only a bit of it, gonna have to check it out........
peace
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The Dre beat for the 50/Brooklyn track I think is wack cause Dre tries to make a beat suited for 50 & Brooklyn - both from N.Y. So I think he tried too hard to make a east coast beat.
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The Dre beat for the 50/Brooklyn track I think is wack cause Dre tries to make a beat suited for 50 & Brooklyn - both from N.Y. So I think he tried too hard to make a east coast beat.
lol yeah i see wat ya sayin, still havent heard it yet though, oh and i know alot of ppl are hatin kuz dres gotta another N.Y act but as long as they young, i dont mind where dre picks his talent up from.........i mean id love it if it was from the west, but like as long as he aint waistin most of his time with 30 year olds............which he has been lately...........truth............spent two years on her wackish album...............rakim................but atleast it should be worth the wait..........but i like it when dre provides beats for young up n coming rappers....singers.....kuz its jus new ya get me
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The Dre beat for the 50/Brooklyn track I think is wack cause Dre tries to make a beat suited for 50 & Brooklyn - both from N.Y. So I think he tried too hard to make a east coast beat.
lol yeah i see wat ya sayin, still havent heard it yet though, oh and i know alot of ppl are hatin kuz dres gotta another N.Y act but as long as they young, i dont mind where dre picks his talent up from.........i mean id love it if it was from the west, but like as long as he aint waistin most of his time with 30 year olds............which he has been lately...........truth............spent two years on her wackish album...............rakim................but atleast it should be worth the wait..........but i like it when dre provides beats for young up n coming rappers....singers.....kuz its jus new ya get me
She has a nice voice...sounds good for hooks.
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i think the track is hot..............plain and simple....it is a laid back track.....it is not even a full song.....simple mixtape ish point blank......50 and Rakim Allah gonna rule in 2003!!!!
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50 sounds good over beats by Alchemist, Sha Money, Trackmasters & Eminem.
Dre should hit him with some hard shit, like "Xxplosive" or "Still D.R.E.", with Dre's signature bumping bass and shit, not try to be Eastcoast.
Also I think Primo would be a nice pairing with 50.
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50 sounds good over beats by Alchemist, Sha Money, Trackmasters & Eminem.
Dre should hit him with some hard shit, like "Xxplosive" or "Still D.R.E.", with Dre's signature bumping bass and shit, not try to be Eastcoast.
Also I think Primo would be a nice pairing with 50.
I feel you Jome. I think Primo would be typical. 50 should come with some new type of production that's his own signature. Falling into Dres production style IMO is a mistake. Id like to see what Eminem and The G-Unit can produce together. Eminem is really comin up as a producer and his sound is still fresh. Roll with Em's sound.. not Dres signature.
Axle
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. Falling into Dres production style IMO is a mistake. Id like to see what Eminem and The G-Unit can produce together. Eminem is really comin up as a producer and his sound is still fresh. Roll with Em's sound.. not Dres signature.
Axle
I hear that, roll with whats new. Definately