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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Shallow on January 12, 2010, 05:04:37 PM
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Forgive me if it's being posted already but I don't see any threads and I don't know why there aren't any, but;
Leno's 10 O'Clock show failed and now NBC wants him back at 11:35. Then they wanted to push Conan to 12:05, but Conan just came out and said he won't do that. Conan's contract means his money is guaranteed whether they use him or not and it's a lot, like 20 mil.
The only two places for him to go if he leaves is Fox or cable, unless NBC changes their minds and leaves him at 11:35, which I don't think they will. My guess is he'll end up doing the Conan O'Brien Show on Fox.
Almost 20 years later and Jay's still a bitch.
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I like Jay and enjoy his show more than Conan's to be honest, but Leno is a fuckin faggot for pulling this shit. Take a play from Carson's playbook, retire with class, and stop being such a puss just because your show failed. I don't blame Conan at all.
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I like Jay and enjoy his show more than Conan's to be honest, but Leno is a fuckin faggot for pulling this shit. Take a play from Carson's playbook, retire with class, and stop being such a puss just because your show failed. I don't blame Conan at all.
I like headlines but that's about it. Leno isn't edgy enough for me and there's a certain style he lacks. Always preferred Letterman. Definitely prefer Conan, but will probably prefer him even more on Fox where he'll have more freedom, if he goes there.
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You guys are on point.
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I don't find Jayo Leno's show appealing at all. He's funny at times but when I checked out his new show it felt like I was watching Oprah.
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Conan is the best guy on TV (besides Craig lol).
they should eliminate Leno's show all together & just have Conan on from 10:30-12:30 lol.
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rumors have it, Conan might go to Fox; being the only station without a Late Night Show these days.
it doesn't matter the channel, people are going to watch him; it just depends if NBC is willing to lose him.
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rumors have it, Conan might go to Fox; being the only station without a Late Night Show these days.
it doesn't matter the channel, people are going to watch him; it just depends if NBC is willing to lose him.
It reminds me of that one time Peyton threw that TD to Harrison....
Just fucking with you.
I think NBC thinks Leno will be worth more ratings and can still go another 10 years, about the same age Johnny was when he retired. I personally would like to see Leno come back and fail, and have Conan do wonders on Fox, but I won't predict it to happen, because the odds aren't in favor.
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Conan was castrated when he moved into that time slot. I think this whole thing is hilarious.
NBC royally fucked up. Conan should go to another network, but I hope he doesn't go to Fox
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fuck em all except kimmel. :bandit:
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Conan was castrated when he moved into that time slot. I think this whole thing is hilarious.
NBC royally fucked up. Conan should go to another network, but I hope he doesn't go to Fox
Fox would be perfect for him. He'd have all the freedom he'd need to be his funniest.
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Conan was castrated when he moved into that time slot. I think this whole thing is hilarious.
NBC royally fucked up. Conan should go to another network, but I hope he doesn't go to Fox
Fox would be perfect for him. He'd have all the freedom he'd need to be his funniest.
He was perfect in his original setting on NBC. Not saying I want him to stay there though. He can go anywhere and be himself if he's in the proper time slot.
Fox doesn't deserve Conan. Then again Fox doesn't deserve to be a major broadcasting station in the first place.
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conan should go back to the simpsons. get that 40MM payout from nbc and go back to the yellow people. lol
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The funny thing is this whole thing would of been avoidable if they just kept things the way they were. I
m not sure on the details, but did NBC force Leno into giving up the Tonight Show or did Leno announce that he was tired of doing it and ready to retire?
BTW, George Lopez > both Leno and Conan
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conan pushed to get the tonight show and nbc gave it to him even though he wasnt even beating furgeson in the same time slot. if he cant beat furgeson, why would nbc put him up against letterman? well, they did...
leno was getting nice ratings and nbc didnt wanna lose him so they gave him the 10 o clock spot, which also 'saved' them money cause they wouldnt have to produce a 'regular' show for that timeslot. turns out they lost and are loosing millions with the current arrangement.
its just a complete clusterfuck and i think the whole thing is FUBAR. people lost interest in leno and conan and moved onto letterman and kimmel. i dont think leno will ever have the same types of ratings again and nbc will continue to digg their own grave.
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i just dont understand how that jeff zuccer guy can still have a fuccin job. WHOSE DICC IS THAT MAN SUCCIN?. he's fucced this up so badly. but as far as that shit goes...conan should just pacc his bags and leave that bitch ass company. if they're gonna treat you like a bitch then you should treat them like a bitch. I like Conan and I especially like that dog..Triumph or whatever the fucc he's called. He fuccs everybody. I like him. And that Andy dude is funny too. As for Jay..he's just getting tired.
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conan pushed to get the tonight show and nbc gave it to him even though he wasnt even beating furgeson in the same time slot. if he cant beat furgeson, why would nbc put him up against letterman? well, they did...
leno was getting nice ratings and nbc didnt wanna lose him so they gave him the 10 o clock spot, which also 'saved' them money cause they wouldnt have to produce a 'regular' show for that timeslot. turns out they lost and are loosing millions with the current arrangement.
its just a complete clusterfuck and i think the whole thing is FUBAR. people lost interest in leno and conan and moved onto letterman and kimmel. i dont think leno will ever have the same types of ratings again and nbc will continue to digg their own grave.
Ferguson wasn't even on the air yet when NBC announced Conan would take over back in 04.
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the late night thing never did it for me, but if conan is on fox, that better not mean no seinfeld at 11, ill be pissed
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i agree that Lopez Tonight is the new king for me.... but as the NBC stuff going on... im riding with Team Conan... Leno should have stepped down with class.... he should have never had that 10 o clock show because it devides the Tonight Show audience....even after them saying "hey maybe we should move you back to 11:35" He should have said NO!....
(http://sirmikeofmitchell.com/sirmitchell/conan03.jpg)
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lol Jimmy Kimmell did his entire show last night as Jay Leno
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/OMgPPJZfsCM
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leno tries too hard to bring comedy IMO
this is comedy in it self to see these dukes fightin over this..lol
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No, Conan was gonna bolt to fox 5 yrs ago, so nbc offered him the tonight show to keep him.
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Conan used to be the shit, i haven't really liked his new show. Kimmel is always funny and Leno is usually funny too. Never liked Letterman though.
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lol Jimmy Kimmell did his entire show last night as Jay Leno
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/OMgPPJZfsCM
LOL, Jimmy is a monster! :laugh:
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the late night thing never did it for me, but if conan is on fox, that better not mean no seinfeld at 11, ill be pissed
That's just your Fox affiliate. Seinfeld reruns are always strong so they'll keep them if the ratings are there. It'll be an 11:30 show most likely.
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Conan was my favorite late night talk show till Lopez came along but Conan should go to fox
It would be great to see him beat Leno in the ratings.
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Conan was my favorite late night talk show till Lopez came along but Conan should go to fox
It would be great to see him beat Leno in the ratings.
Conan could have a show from 1:00-2:00 AM & still have better ratings lol.
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breaking news
Conan O'Brien arrested for the execution style murder of Jay Leno!
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Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
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This is what will happen. Conan will leave and Leno will get his tonight show bacc.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/p/2010/01/14/2010-01-14_conan_obrien_could_be_off_the_air_next_week_as_.html
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This is what will happen. Conan will leave and Leno will get his tonight show bacc.
Now that's fucked up.
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Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
Because I find his show and him funny. It's a lot edgier and more subtle. I also find the content funnier. Jay says a lot of things that aren't really funny in a way that makes people think it's funny. It's comes across as very phony and uninspired.
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Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
Because I find his show and him funny. It's a lot edgier and more subtle. I also find the content funnier. Jay says a lot of things that aren't really funny in a way that makes people think it's funny. It's comes across as very phony and uninspired.
what about the way letterman confessed to cheating on his wife, kind of a slimeball move
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Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
Because I find his show and him funny. It's a lot edgier and more subtle. I also find the content funnier. Jay says a lot of things that aren't really funny in a way that makes people think it's funny. It's comes across as very phony and uninspired.
what about the way letterman confessed to cheating on his wife, kind of a slimeball move
That made him a G, he owned the blackmailers lol
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Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
Because I find his show and him funny. It's a lot edgier and more subtle. I also find the content funnier. Jay says a lot of things that aren't really funny in a way that makes people think it's funny. It's comes across as very phony and uninspired.
what about the way letterman confessed to cheating on his wife, kind of a slimeball move
Cheating on his wife, or confessing to it? The cheating wasn't very nice, but the confessing was admirable. Either way, no skin off my back. I just like the dude's art. Don't care what kind of person he is.
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Tiger should have busted a Letterman and come clean.
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damn i thought you were talkin bout a real war at first...lol
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Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
Because I find his show and him funny. It's a lot edgier and more subtle. I also find the content funnier. Jay says a lot of things that aren't really funny in a way that makes people think it's funny. It's comes across as very phony and uninspired.
what about the way letterman confessed to cheating on his wife, kind of a slimeball move
Cheating on his wife, or confessing to it? The cheating wasn't very nice, but the confessing was admirable. Either way, no skin off my back. I just like the dude's art. Don't care what kind of person he is.
i agree with you about that, what an artist does does not impact how i view his art (like michael richards saying nigger), however, considering he used his show to tell his wife he was cheating on her, and made a joke of it, dick move
on a side not, watched the intro to the leno show today, wow, so NOT funny, not even remotely
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Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
Because I find his show and him funny. It's a lot edgier and more subtle. I also find the content funnier. Jay says a lot of things that aren't really funny in a way that makes people think it's funny. It's comes across as very phony and uninspired.
what about the way letterman confessed to cheating on his wife, kind of a slimeball move
Cheating on his wife, or confessing to it? The cheating wasn't very nice, but the confessing was admirable. Either way, no skin off my back. I just like the dude's art. Don't care what kind of person he is.
i agree with you about that, what an artist does does not impact how i view his art (like michael richards saying nigger), however, considering he used his show to tell his wife he was cheating on her, and made a joke of it, dick move
on a side not, watched the intro to the leno show today, wow, so NOT funny, not even remotely
Why would anyone watch Letterman? that show is just awkward.
Because I find his show and him funny. It's a lot edgier and more subtle. I also find the content funnier. Jay says a lot of things that aren't really funny in a way that makes people think it's funny. It's comes across as very phony and uninspired.
what about the way letterman confessed to cheating on his wife, kind of a slimeball move
Cheating on his wife, or confessing to it? The cheating wasn't very nice, but the confessing was admirable. Either way, no skin off my back. I just like the dude's art. Don't care what kind of person he is.
i agree with you about that, what an artist does does not impact how i view his art (like michael richards saying nigger), however, considering he used his show to tell his wife he was cheating on her, and made a joke of it, dick move
on a side not, watched the intro to the leno show today, wow, so NOT funny, not even remotely
I didn't realize the wife found out that way. From what I've read the affair may not have happened while he was married. The girl in question wasn't even a part of the plot. The facts aren't in. But even if it did happen the way you said it I'd still watch Dave over Leno every night.
Not sure I'm on board with the Kramer example. Richards was trying to do shock humor, and failed miserably. What Dave may have done to his wife is a real insult with cowardly intent. That's closer to liking the Beatles despite Lennon being a piece of shit to his first wife and kids.
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I like how Conan is handling this. Just taking a nice big shit all over NBC and Leno, but in an entertainign manner. WHich is why he is getting more ratings.
Leno, on the other hand, is trying to play the victim on his shitty show, and the ratings show how believable people find it.
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LOL Jimmy Kimmel just ethered Leno on his own damn show. Too funny.
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I didn't realize the wife found out that way. From what I've read the affair may not have happened while he was married. The girl in question wasn't even a part of the plot. The facts aren't in. But even if it did happen the way you said it I'd still watch Dave over Leno every night.
Not sure I'm on board with the Kramer example. Richards was trying to do shock humor, and failed miserably. What Dave may have done to his wife is a real insult with cowardly intent. That's closer to liking the Beatles despite Lennon being a piece of shit to his first wife and kids.
i just meant in general, and where i agree with you, like i wouldnt watch the show Letterman any differently (despite how i feel), and i wouldnt watch seinfeld any differently, and i wouldnt listen to beatles any diff, etc.
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© Retna Ltd.
Rosie O'Donnell
O'Donnell says it's time for Leno to step aside
Jan. 14, 2010, 8:59 PM EST
PASADENA, Calif. (AP) -- Rosie O'Donnell says it's time for Jay Leno to step away from late night and not try to flatten the tires of Conan O'Brien.
NBC is seeking to move Leno into his old 11:35 p.m. "Tonight" show time slot and push O'Brien past midnight again.
O'Brien is balking at the move after only seven months at "Tonight," and a negotiated exit from NBC seems likely.
Also: Is Jay Leno late-night's new villain?
O'Donnell says she was a huge fan of O'Brien. She used the metaphor of a bus driver who should hand over the keys to a new guy, saying: "Pass the keys to the new guy with red hair and not try to flatten his tires before he even gets going."
She was asked her opinion on the late-night fights while in town to promote an HBO documentary.
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looks like Conan is gone from NBC and will get a $30-40 million payout once it's all signed
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/15/done-deal-conan-out-for-30-million-payout
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LOL Jimmy Kimmel just ethered Leno on his own damn show. Too funny.
LOL, i saw.
Kimmel is a GOD! ;D
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i feel bad for the 200 staff workers on the conan show. they moved from NY to LA and now they getting fucked in the ass with no type of lube. ouch.
i wonder if conan will give em a piece of that 40MM...
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i feel bad for the 200 staff workers on the conan show. they moved from NY to LA and now they getting fucked in the ass with no type of lube. ouch.
i wonder if conan will give em a piece of that 40MM...
maybe they'll move on to his next show?
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i feel bad for the 200 staff workers on the conan show. they moved from NY to LA and now they getting fucked in the ass with no type of lube. ouch.
i wonder if conan will give em a piece of that 40MM...
I don't think it wa sthat many. The only people that would have moved were the ones makign enough money to warratn a move across the country. Writers, directors etc.
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Conan went out with so much class.... NBC Fucked up... When Conan comes back i think he has won over an even bigger following than before.
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Has Conan commented on what he's goin' to be doin' next?
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LOL KIMMEL KILLED IT! :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/UKZ1lMtd2NE
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LOL KIMMEL KILLED IT! :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/UKZ1lMtd2NE
That was classic.
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is leno really a "bad guy" in all of this? i mean, i heard that if nbc wanted to get rid of leno they would of had to pay him $100MM+....to kill off conan it was only $45MM. there was no way they were going to get rid of em both, even they both sucked balls in the ratings, so they took the cheaper route to try and salvage their network.
nbc is the one fucking up, leno and conan were just caught in the middle.
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is leno really a "bad guy" in all of this? i mean, i heard that if nbc wanted to get rid of leno they would of had to pay him $100MM+....to kill off conan it was only $45MM. there was no way they were going to get rid of em both, even they both sucked balls in the ratings, so they took the cheaper route to try and salvage their network.
nbc is the one fucking up, leno and conan were just caught in the middle.
Who do you think put that 100M clause in the contract? Leno knew his show was going to fail, and he knew that Conan starting off wasn't going to do well vs Letterman. And Leno back in the day let his manager do all the work, which included some shady shit that eventually forced Johnny Carson out.
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is leno really a "bad guy" in all of this? i mean, i heard that if nbc wanted to get rid of leno they would of had to pay him $100MM+....to kill off conan it was only $45MM. there was no way they were going to get rid of em both, even they both sucked balls in the ratings, so they took the cheaper route to try and salvage their network.
nbc is the one fucking up, leno and conan were just caught in the middle.
Who do you think put that 100M clause in the contract? Leno knew his show was going to fail, and he knew that Conan starting off wasn't going to do well vs Letterman. And Leno back in the day let his manager do all the work, which included some shady shit that eventually forced Johnny Carson out.
are you saying conan knew he would fail, too? since he had the same thing in his contract? i dont think anyone went into this saying "oh, i know im going to fail". they put that in their contract to protect themselves. if neither of them had it nbc probably would have fired both of them.
if i had a job with any type of contract then i would put something like that in my contract, too. youd be stupid not to.
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is leno really a "bad guy" in all of this? i mean, i heard that if nbc wanted to get rid of leno they would of had to pay him $100MM+....to kill off conan it was only $45MM. there was no way they were going to get rid of em both, even they both sucked balls in the ratings, so they took the cheaper route to try and salvage their network.
nbc is the one fucking up, leno and conan were just caught in the middle.
Who do you think put that 100M clause in the contract? Leno knew his show was going to fail, and he knew that Conan starting off wasn't going to do well vs Letterman. And Leno back in the day let his manager do all the work, which included some shady shit that eventually forced Johnny Carson out.
If Carson wanted to be aggressive he could have shut all of that down. In the end it was Letterman's lack of obedience that did him in and good for him. Leno will always been seen as the guy that could never fill Johnny's shoes. Letterman and now Conan will be wearing their own shoes.
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Conan deserves that clause because of the fact that he is the host of the Tonight Show. Leno decided to be a bitch and again come before Conan, he has no class. He didn't have class when he had a bitch running shit for him, he was a classless ballsless person back then, and he is still is now.
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is leno really a "bad guy" in all of this? i mean, i heard that if nbc wanted to get rid of leno they would of had to pay him $100MM+....to kill off conan it was only $45MM. there was no way they were going to get rid of em both, even they both sucked balls in the ratings, so they took the cheaper route to try and salvage their network.
nbc is the one fucking up, leno and conan were just caught in the middle.
Who do you think put that 100M clause in the contract? Leno knew his show was going to fail, and he knew that Conan starting off wasn't going to do well vs Letterman. And Leno back in the day let his manager do all the work, which included some shady shit that eventually forced Johnny Carson out.
If Carson wanted to be aggressive he could have shut all of that down. In the end it was Letterman's lack of obedience that did him in and good for him. Leno will always been seen as the guy that could never fill Johnny's shoes. Letterman and now Conan will be wearing their own shoes.
That's true, now there will be 3 giants at 11:35, assuming Conan gets it there with FOX. NBC's duo of Leno and Fallon is horrible lol. Anytime I'm watching tv that late, Ferguson has been the preferred choice.
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Conan deserves that clause because of the fact that he is the host of the Tonight Show. Leno decided to be a bitch and again come before Conan, he has no class. He didn't have class when he had a bitch running shit for him, he was a classless ballsless person back then, and he is still is now.
lol what? most people with a contract, or high level positions, show business or not, have a golden parachute in their contract. it has nothing to do with how you view someone, its simply there for protection. that clause has nothing to do with being sneeky or any shit like that. its just business.
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Creating a new show to come on before Conan was the bitch move. If Conan knew Leno was going to be this way after agreeing to step down on the Tonight Show, Conan would have left early and all of this mess wouldn't exist.
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Creating a new show to come on before Conan was the bitch move. If Conan knew Leno was going to be this way after agreeing to step down on the Tonight Show, Conan would have left early and all of this mess wouldn't exist.
what if the prime time show was a success? with if it leno got better ratings and the lead for conan was stronger? what if lenos lead in made it so that the tonight show had ratings like never before?
with if it had all worked out, no one would say leno is a bad guy. they would all be praising his decision to move to prime time. shit, it wasnt until recently that everyone started hating on leno. when this all (conan getting the tonight show/leno-primetime) was announced i didnt see a single person bashing leno like they are now.
and theyre only hating cause he seems like the bad guy, when really he hasnt done shit, has he? nbc is the one making the decisions. sure, leno could of said "no" when they offered him the primetime show, but if you still like what youre doing, and you get offered a nice contract, why would you turn it down?
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Most people that followed these moves expected it to not be successful. People have been bashing on Leno for decades lol it's obviously intensified during the recent "scandal"
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leno didnt do anything tho. nbc is the one who offered him the deal, theyre the ones who gave conan the tonight show, theyre the ones who axed conan, theyre the ones giving leno his old show.
sure, leno could of said "no" when they offered him the primetime show, but if you still like what youre doing, and you get offered a nice contract, why would you turn it down?
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btw, its really really REALLY hard to feel bad for conan when he is walking away with millions out of all this. i dont see how anyone can feel bad. oh boo hoo, he cant work till september, how will he go on with his life?! ::)
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I don't feel bad for Conan. The thing is that Leno agreed to step down, then however the idea came up, the fact is that he agreed to that without any consideration to the Tonight Show. If Leno's manager back in 93 would have heard the news that Carson was going to do a show at 10PM, she would have killed people at NBC lmao
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What the fuck is wrong with Letterman? Why is he always runnin' in the background right when they introduce him :D
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btw, its really really REALLY hard to feel bad for conan when he is walking away with millions out of all this. i dont see how anyone can feel bad. oh boo hoo, he cant work till september, how will he go on with his life?! ::)
I don't feel bad for Conan. I feel bad for everyone that will now sit through the Leno/Fallon/Daly trio that's on NBC. They should call it the late night comedy sphere. No edge.
I'm still waiting for the Helloooo, Hellooooooo, Hellooooooooooooo! commercial that the three of them need to be on together. Of course that might be too offensive to Curly, Larry, and Moe; actual innovative comedians with edge.
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if Conan goes to Fox & has the 11:30 slot with Letterman & Leno; Leno's ratings are just going to go down even further.
Coco is the fucking man. ;D 8)
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if Conan goes to Fox & has the 11:30 slot with Letterman & Leno; Leno's ratings are just going to go down even further.
Coco is the fucking man. ;D 8)
Leno has a strong following of people over 50. In terms of ad revenue 18-49 males is all that counts for Late Night TV but I still expect Leno's over all viewership to be up there.