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Title: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 06:06:29 AM
You said you could eat me up, and destroy me with your vast hip-hop knowledge and to make a thread in the Outbound section... so I did just as you asked...  Go for it...
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 06:15:51 AM
u were the one who brought it up originally, Einstein. im just playn alone..

go ahead, student.

pick a topic


*puttin on my teacher clothes*
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 06:17:42 AM
wit extravagant karma like dat - let's c how well the public oppostion will play along

 8)
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 06:23:26 AM
im waiting..  :D

i will chew u up alive, and use ur remaining skeleton as a toothpick..
 ;D
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 06:28:04 AM
lol... We already had a topic in the 2pac discussion.  But for some reason you insisted I make a thread in the Outbound Section.  So I made the thread... and now you want me to choose a topic.  We already had a topic when we were discussing 2pac.

But since you asked for another topic, why don't we get into the four elements of hip-hop.  Since you were obviously confused in this regard, by saying that to be an emcee took 4 elements (LOL?WTF?) in the 2pac thread.  Which of course lead me to explaining to you what the four elements actually were (breakin, DJing, Graffiti, rapper).

But I guess maybe you could start by explaining why you were confused and why you thought that the 4 elements of hip-hop were mic skills, flow, lyrics, etc.
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 29, 2010, 06:35:54 AM
any debate with fab is interestin.....most of the time.... ;D
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 06:38:08 AM
u just destroyed urself..
 ;D

i am goin to quote myself from dat thread dat u just mentioned..

here is the quote,
when u are defining mc's worthy of the goat-titles in hiphop - one of the stripes a rapper has to have on his belt - is flow, lyrical wordplay, mic-capabilities etc etc -
there are 4 elements to hiphop - the "master of the crowd"-subject bein one of the more important ones, dat ppl should keep in mind when ranking artists


Infinite's braincells understands this quote, as me quotin those underlined subjects, as the TRUE elements of the hiphop-genre.. now, normaly a functual and normal impression of dat above quote would b somethin else.. but Infinte is kinda confused wit alotta things..   :-\


and for the record,
u were the one dat started the whole lecturin-thing, by preachin about the elements in hiphop - and i gave u the propistion to discuss thoroughly bout hiphop as a genre in general in the outbound-section - so dont det it twisted, dat it was my idea.
 a funny and amusing idea, nevertheless, but not mine..

Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 06:40:08 AM
Okay.. so I'm still waiting for you to lecture me and bless me with your vast knowledge on hip-hop. 
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: ikke on January 29, 2010, 06:45:50 AM
u just destroyed urself..
 ;D

i am goin to quote myself from dat thread dat u just mentioned..

here is the quote,
when u are defining mc's worthy of the goat-titles in hiphop - one of the stripes a rapper has to have on his belt - is flow, lyrical wordplay, mic-capabilities etc etc -
there are 4 elements to hiphop - the "master of the crowd"-subject bein one of the more important ones, dat ppl should keep in mind when ranking artists


Infinite's braincells understands this quote, as me quotin those underlined subjects, as the TRUE elements of the hiphop-genre.. now, normaly a functual and normal impression of dat above quote would b somethin else.. but Infinte is kinda confused wit alotta things..   :-\


and for the record,
u were the one dat started the whole lecturin-thing, by preachin about the elements in hiphop - and i gave u the propistion to discuss thoroughly bout hiphop as a genre in general in the outbound-section - so dont det it twisted, dat it was my idea.
 a funny and amusing idea, nevertheless, but not mine..


Infinite thinks you are talking about the elements of the hiphop culture not the elements of hiphop music.

Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 06:46:55 AM
so u agree dat the correct impression u had when readin my above-quote, for the first time - was the exact same as i described it as? do YOU? REALLY? *tsk, tsk*
 :laugh:

pick a topic, Einstein - like i said, everythin originated oriignaly wit ur ideas about lecturing ME in the 2pac-thread. so ultimatley - You are  the one dat has to start it off - pull up some beliefs u have concering the 4 elements, in words - and let' start the lecturin debate..

i will destroy u b4 the day is over.

wit karma like dat, ur obvioulsy standin on ur last leg.. and u will fall down today..
 8)
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 06:47:30 AM
^^^^^^^^^^No your shit still doesn't make sense... and I already picked a topic.  The 4 elements is my topic.  


when u are defining mc's worthy of the goat-titles in hiphop - one of the stripes a rapper has to have on his belt - is flow, lyrical wordplay, mic-capabilities etc etc -
there are 4 elements to hiphop - the "master of the crowd"-subject bein one of the more important ones, dat ppl should keep in mind when ranking artists


This quote of yours makes no sense.  Because you said you weren't questioning that Pac didn't have great shows and that he wasn't an ill performer.  Yet you put "master of the crowd" in parenthesis.  And you said... "there are 4 elements to hiphop- "master of the crowd" subject bein the most important one."  But that didn't make any sense in our discussion.  Because we weren't trying to say that Crazy Legs was the greatest hip-hop artist because he was the best breaker, or the SEEN was the best because he was the best Graff artist.. so why would you point out the "Master of The Crowd" is on of the more important of the 4 elements?

It's obvious you didn't understand what the 4 elements really were.
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 29, 2010, 06:48:23 AM
damn fab got alot of confidence......in himself
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 06:56:21 AM
^^^^^^^^^^No your shit still doesn't make sense... and I already picked a topic.  The 4 elements is my topic.  


when u are defining mc's worthy of the goat-titles in hiphop - one of the stripes a rapper has to have on his belt - is flow, lyrical wordplay, mic-capabilities etc etc -
there are 4 elements to hiphop - the "master of the crowd"-subject bein one of the more important ones, dat ppl should keep in mind when ranking artists


This quote of yours makes no sense.  Because you said you weren't questioning that Pac didn't have great shows and that he wasn't an ill performer.  Yet you put "master of the crowd" in parenthesis.  And you said... "there are 4 elements to hiphop- "master of the crowd" subject bein the most important one."  But that didn't make any sense in our discussion.  Because we weren't trying to say that Crazy Legs was the greatest hip-hop artist because he was the best breaker, or the SEEN was the best because he was the best Graff artist.. so why would you point out the "Master of The Crowd" is on of the more important of the 4 elements?

It's obvious you didn't understand what the 4 elements really were.

when i am describing an mc, it doesn't necessarily have to mean dat im talkin about his abilites as a "live-performer" - an mc (master of the crowd), doesnt have to perform in "live-format".
u can still have dat title - MC - even though ur NOT rockin the crowd.. SIMPLE

if i am sayin dat 2pac wasn't great as a "master of the crowd" - dat doesn't necessairly mean dat im talkin about his abilities on the stage.. u can be a "master of the crowd" even tho, u never rocked a stage b4..!!!
Allah decided to give u a brain for one thing (which i kinda feel like u dont have) - THINKING

damn fab got alot of confidence......in himself
wouldn't anyone have, dealin wit Infinite?

This guy is TRULY an idiot by epic proportions, and clearly doesn't know what the fuck he is talki about when he can't even undestand the basics of reading and understanding letters/words
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: ikke on January 29, 2010, 07:06:44 AM
damn fab got alot of confidence......in himself
wouldn't anyone have, dealin wit Infinite?
nothing worse thena smart dumb muthafucka
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 29, 2010, 07:22:18 AM
^^^^^^^^^^No your shit still doesn't make sense... and I already picked a topic.  The 4 elements is my topic.  


when u are defining mc's worthy of the goat-titles in hiphop - one of the stripes a rapper has to have on his belt - is flow, lyrical wordplay, mic-capabilities etc etc -
there are 4 elements to hiphop - the "master of the crowd"-subject bein one of the more important ones, dat ppl should keep in mind when ranking artists


This quote of yours makes no sense.  Because you said you weren't questioning that Pac didn't have great shows and that he wasn't an ill performer.  Yet you put "master of the crowd" in parenthesis.  And you said... "there are 4 elements to hiphop- "master of the crowd" subject bein the most important one."  But that didn't make any sense in our discussion.  Because we weren't trying to say that Crazy Legs was the greatest hip-hop artist because he was the best breaker, or the SEEN was the best because he was the best Graff artist.. so why would you point out the "Master of The Crowd" is on of the more important of the 4 elements?

It's obvious you didn't understand what the 4 elements really were.

when i am describing an mc, it doesn't necessarily have to mean dat im talkin about his abilites as a "live-performer" - an mc (master of the crowd), doesnt have to perform in "live-format".
u can still have dat title - MC - even though ur NOT rockin the crowd.. SIMPLE

if i am sayin dat 2pac wasn't great as a "master of the crowd" - dat doesn't necessairly mean dat im talkin about his abilities on the stage.. u can be a "master of the crowd" even tho, u never rocked a stage b4..!!!
Allah decided to give u a brain for one thing (which i kinda feel like u dont have) - THINKING

damn fab got alot of confidence......in himself
wouldn't anyone have, dealin wit Infinite?

This guy is TRULY an idiot by epic proportions, and clearly doesn't know what the fuck he is talki about when he can't even undestand the basics of reading and understanding letters/words

when i get home tonight from work imma jump in here & basically school you on hip hop, its too bad i gotta go work in a few.... ;)
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 07:25:46 AM
lol, this is a one-on-one fight. but sure, jump in..

i'll destroy both of u at the same time..  ;)
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 29, 2010, 07:28:02 AM
lol, this is a one-on-one fight. but sure, jump in..

i'll destroy both of u at the same time..  ;)


ohh i will haha....
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 07:46:28 AM
*yawn*
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 08:37:06 AM


when i am describing an mc, it doesn't necessarily have to mean dat im talkin about his abilites as a "live-performer" - an mc (master of the crowd), doesnt have to perform in "live-format".
u can still have dat title - MC - even though ur NOT rockin the crowd.. SIMPLE

if i am sayin dat 2pac wasn't great as a "master of the crowd" - dat doesn't necessairly mean dat im talkin about his abilities on the stage.. u can be a "master of the crowd" even tho, u never rocked a stage b4..!!!
Allah decided to give u a brain for one thing (which i kinda feel like u dont have) - THINKING

damn fab got alot of confidence......in himself
wouldn't anyone have, dealin wit Infinite?

This guy is TRULY an idiot by epic proportions, and clearly doesn't know what the fuck he is talki about when he can't even undestand the basics of reading and understanding letters/words

Listen fabtox, you still haven't schooled me on anything regarding the 4 elements of hip-hop.  Why would you spell out "Master-of-Ceremonies" to make your point if you weren't talkin about rockin a show?  Why wouldn't you have just left it at rapper, or Emcee?

Dude, I really think you were confused about what the 4 elements of hip-hop were.  I think you had just vaguely remembered hearing something about "4 elements" and wanted to throw that phrase into the conversation in a futile attempt at sounding intelligent.    Because anybody who was in that thread knows that the 4 elements were no part of the discussion, we weren't speaking even remotely about breakin', DJin, or Graffiti.  The only thing you or anybody spoke on was about 2pac as a rapper.

Since you still have failed to explain to me anything about the 4 elements, let me explain them more in depth to you...  

See back in the 70's and early 80's the four elements that make up hip-hop culture were basically equal and beautifully intertwined with one another.  For example, graffiti artists would gather in the subways and in the streets and they all had their nicknames and their own slang, they would kick it, freestyle and so on; a lot of 5 percenter teachings were popular at the time in the Bronx.

See, a Parks Commissioner in New York, Robert Moses, built an expressway right through the Bronx and a Co-Op apartment complex on the Northern Edge.  As a result of his projects many businesses left the area, and people were dislocated to less comfortable living conditions.  Street gangs filled the vacuum.  Savage Seven, Black Spades (which Bam was originally a member of) and other gangs flooded the streets in a scene similar to what has been depicted in films such as Warriors.  Many of these gangs were involved in graffiti battles to get their name up more than other gangs, or crossing out each others names, and so on.  Some gangs or breakin' crews like Rock Steady (Crazy Legs) crew were developed out of this type of culture.  They would battle with other crews of breakers, and a DJ would play the breaks of a record for them to battle to.  Kool Herc was a pioneer in playing the breaks of records, which was an influence he got from the Jamaican Reggae tradition of "toasting".  You could say it goes back even further to the West African tradition of griots which I've actually seen live in person in the villages and at weddings in the time I spent in West Africa.

So there you had it.  Right there in the Bronx.  In the 60's, 70's and up to the early 80's you had 4 equal parts of a culture.  Like you may go to a park, and hear a DJ playing some breaks, while a rapper would keep the crowd entertained, introduce the breakin crews as they stepped up to do battle.  (The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's)  Then late into the night crews would tag up the subways.  


"Forget the TV/ I'd rather hit the streets and do graffiti/ be careful/ don't let the transit cops see me/ It ain't nothin like the Old School"  -2pac- "Old School" off Me Against The World
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
Why would you spell out "Master-of-Ceremonies" to make your point if you weren't talkin about rockin a show?  Why wouldn't you have just left it at rapper, or Emcee?

 ;)
why not, Infi-Prick? are ur brain so stupid, dat u think everybody inplys anythin about "rockn crowds" - as soon s u hear the word "mc"..  

when im spendin time later on in the same thread (the 2pac-thread) on discussing 2pac's capabilites as a rapper - IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS dat i was talkin about him as bein an mc, when i dropped this quote (and NOT anythin regardin his abilities as a stage-performer)
the "master of the crowd"-subject bein one of the more important ones, dat ppl should keep in mind when ranking artists For fucks sake

u dumb muddafucca - ur mental reception-abilities clearly is DISTURBED wit capital letters - it's obvious to me, dat u've had the wrong impression about almost everythin i wrote previoulsy in the pac-thread - and it's nothin wrong wit my formulatin-skills in writin, cus obvioulsy NOBODY xcept u have pointed out any "errors" and/or somethin they didnt understand. do u walk across the streets when the sign says "Stop", u dumb muddafucca?

BUT i gotta give u an A+ on ur words about the 4 elements.

altho it definetly smells "paste from wiki" or somethin of dat nature, since ur typical grammar/vocabularly in those writings wasn't similar to ur otherwise typical writing.. or mayb im wrong.

nevertheless, an A+
 8)

however, i gotta point out somethin thou
u got this one incorrect.
The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's
dat isn't completely tru - the mc-aspect of the hiphop-musicgenere outweighed the other elements before Mother Time hit us wit the 90's -
One good xample to back this up is---:
Big Daddy Kane's Dj - DJ Mister Cee
he got mad on the lack of awarded credit for DJ's in hiphop, and did a song about the subject
"D.J.'s Got No Credit", back in the 80's (altho it wasn't released in retail-form till 1990/as a bonus-part of a Kane-album)

other than dat, ur right
*clappin hands*
 8)
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: 1981 on January 29, 2010, 09:49:20 AM
any debate with fab is interestin.....most of the time.... ;D

not really. he is always against the grain just to fuck with people. he's just an idiot that thinks he knows somethin about rap music. fuck him. i have a lot of pm's from him so I can show everybody what a fucking moron he is.
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 09:50:49 AM

i will chew u up alive, and use ur remaining skeleton as a toothpick..
 ;D

Okay fagbox, I'm tired of waiting.  At what point are you going to eat me up and school me with your great wisdom in hip-hop.  You asked me to respond to you in the last thread, I did.  You asked me to make a separate thread in OUtbound section, and I did.  You asked me to pick a topic, and I did.

So please... I am still waiting...
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 09:53:13 AM
lol, i still got ur PM's too as well..
 watch out now..

 8)

btw, i bet i really scared u up, when i was threatin u, didnt i? u never wrote me back after dat..

 :laugh:
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: 1981 on January 29, 2010, 09:54:31 AM
lol, i still got ur PM's too as well..
 watch out now..

 8)

btw, i bet i really scared u up, when i was threatin u, didnt i? u never wrote me back after dat..

 :laugh:
 :laugh:

because im 28 years old. and I don't pay attention to internet threats from a kid. i have a life ya dig?
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Nega-Sikotic on January 29, 2010, 09:54:39 AM
Is this needed.. like seriously.. why not just meet up in real life and duke it out on there.
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 09:56:25 AM

i will chew u up alive, and use ur remaining skeleton as a toothpick..
 ;D

Okay fagbox, I'm tired of waiting.  At what point are you going to eat me up and school me with your great wisdom in hip-hop.  You asked me to respond to you in the last thread, I did.  You asked me to make a separate thread in OUtbound section, and I did.  You asked me to pick a topic, and I did.

So please... I am still waiting...

u did good wit the last topic, alto some minor errors.
im proud - i even gave u props for dat--
 8)
NOW, lets move on too somethin else.
how about ur idol 2pac, hm?
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 10:02:56 AM
Is this needed.. like seriously.. why not just meet up in real life and duke it out on there.

we're not fightin, just debating--

the bighead wanted to flex his muscles on hiphop, so now im givin the teenager a chance to do so.. and im enjoyin every minute of it-  8)
altho, he did get it right wit our first topic (for the most part)


because im 28 years old. and I don't pay attention to internet threats from a kid. i have a life ya dig?
ur a 28-year old cryin about ppl askin u for iTunes-songs, when u at the same time - are cryin in seperate threads bout how ppl aint givin u shit for free?
ur a bum slash leech..  8)



Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 10:05:01 AM
MC or MC skills don't necessary makes you Hip Hop
yeah, we know - your point is??

and usin Bun B as a source for provin relevant historic facts..  :-\
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Chad Vader on January 29, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
here is the quote,
when u are defining mc's worthy of the goat-titles in hiphop - one of the stripes a rapper has to have on his belt
- is flow, lyrical wordplay, mic-capabilities etc etc -
there are 4 elements to hiphop
- the "master of the crowd"-subject being one of the more important ones, dat ppl should keep in mind when ranking artists


Infinite's braincells understands this quote, as me quotin those underlined subjects, as the TRUE elements of the hiphop-genre..
now, normally a functual and normal impression of dat above quote would b somethin else.. but Infinite is kinda confused wit alotta things..   :-\

MC or MC skills don't necessary makes you Hip Hop  :P
Quote
Bun B interview in FC#17 2009
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2657/4056148863_42e031dee6.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2495/4056156455_7368760028.jpg)

MC or MC skills don't necessary makes you Hip Hop
yeah, we know - your point is??


Well my point....  :P :P :P
Correct me if I'm wrong  ;)
-By the looks of it you're talking about what makes you a "real" MC...
maybe even what can (or could) be defined as "real/true" rap (didn't bother to look up your previous convo with infinite)

-Infinite on the other hand is talking about Hip Hop.

Am I right?


vader, give me some cool 80s hip hop

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=159062.0
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: ikke on January 29, 2010, 10:18:22 AM
Goddamn people are stupid.

Fabtoxicp is talking about elements of the hiphop msuic, the rest is talking about the elements of  the hiphop culture.

do you even read eachothers post?
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: white Boy on January 29, 2010, 10:22:27 AM
vader, give me some cool 80s hip hop
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 10:24:05 AM
MC or MC skills don't necessary makes you Hip Hop
yeah, we know - your point is??


Well my point....  :P :P :P
Correct me if I'm wrong  ;)
-By the looks of it you're talking about what makes you a "real" MC...
maybe even what can (or could) be defined as "real/true" rap (didn't bother to look up your previous convo with infinite)

-Infinite on the other hand is talking about Hip Hop.

Am I right?


nah, see.. I am very well aware of the fact dat bein a rapper/mc is just ONE single stripe to the hiphop-genre in it's whole..
if u work in the hiphop-section at BestBuy's THAT still makes u hiphop - all good.

what i was sayin back in the pac-thread, was dat if u are goin to be entitled wit the "goat-title" in the genre of hiphop ----- ur abilities on the mic as an MC, should weigh as much as ur other positive-characteristics..

some agreed wit me, and some didn't - and SOME took it even emotionaly - dats why im dukin out verbally wit Infinite in this thread.. he couldn't prove anythin to me back in the pac-tread, so he tried to challenge me over here on somethin else (babblin on about his expertis on the 4 hiphop-elments  ::)) - in order for him to get rid of his aggravated emotions..
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Matty on January 29, 2010, 10:31:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/pqzWW4xtZnI
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 11:29:50 AM

u did good wit the last topic, alto some minor errors.
im proud - i even gave u props for dat--
 8)
NOW, lets move on too somethin else.
how about ur idol 2pac, hm?


Listen fagbox, because your really starting to frustrate me now.  We were already debating 2pac in the 2pac thread.  Then you insisted that I start a new thread in the Outbound section so you could lecture me and destroy me with your vast knowledge on hip-hop.  So I did just as you asked me to do; and then now you want to discuss 2pac? 

LOL... dude, you must be one of those people that when you ask them a question they are too fake to say they don't know something, so they will just spin you around in circles without ever really answering your question.
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 11:46:09 AM
 ;D
we WERE never debating 2pac in the 2pac-thread - u dumb fucc.  ???

 :)
the ONLY thing u were doin in the pac-thread, was pointing out imaginative "errors" in my posts, dat u and ur thick fuckin skull couldn't understand.. u were talkin about fuckin "4 elements" dat had nothin to do wit anythin, like a lost fuckin puppy - tryin to prove somthin to me, so u could feel important as compensation for ur lack of debating-matter on the 2pac-issue..
u have failed horrendously in every aspect of ur previous writins everywhere on this forum - an idiot by epic-proprotions -
u tried to hit me wit some lecturing over here, but there were still things u got wrong wit ur beautfiul post about the "4 elements".


if anythin, u are frustrating to me..
if pac isn't good for u (which obviosuly is ur hero, so i figured "why not?"), what do u want to debate about?

NOTICE - a wise man once told me - dont debate wit fools. now, i've givin u alot of options to step ur pengame up - but ur still fallin off - and my impression of u, still remains intact - u are an idiot  :-\

ur a hella confused individual, and u cant even understand some simple writings - (if i am not re-formulating them for u in the "kindergarden"-way)  ;)


 :D
 :D
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 12:05:43 PM
;D
we WERE never debating 2pac in the 2pac-thread - u dumb fucc.  ???

 :)
the ONLY thing u were doin in the pac-thread, was pointing out imaginative "errors" in my posts, dat u and ur thick fuckin skull couldn't understand.. u were talkin about fuckin "4 elements" dat had nothin to do wit anythin, like a lost fuckin puppy - tryin to prove somthin to me, so u could feel important as compensation for ur lack of debating-matter on the 2pac-issue..
u have failed horrendously in every aspect of ur previous writins everywhere on this forum - an idiot by epic-proprotions -
u tried to hit me wit some lecturing over here, but there were still things u got wrong wit ur beautfiul post about the "4 elements".


if anythin, u are frustrating to me..
if pac isn't good for u (which obviosuly is ur hero, so i figured "why not?"), what do u want to debate about?

NOTICE - a wise man once told me - dont debate wit fools. now, i've givin u alot of options to step ur pengame up - but ur still fallin off - and my impression of u, still remains intact - u are an idiot  :-\

ur a hella confused individual, and u cant even understand some simple writings - (if i am not re-formulating them for u in the "kindergarden"-way)  ;)


 :D
 :D

LOL..... most my posts in the 2pac thread had nothing to do with the 4 elements subject.  You keep going in circles.  And then you told me to bring up a subject here, and I thought it was necassary to explain the basics of the 4 elements to you, because from your post it seemed you were unclear about the subject (which of course, you deny).  Then I mentioned that rappers didn't really take center stage as superstars in hip-hop until the late 80's and you went and posted some shit about Big Daddy Kane and his DJ doin something IN the late 80's and 1990!  What the fuck is that?  LOL

Seriously, this bullshit routine of taking someone around in circles doesn't fool anyone.
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Chad Vader on January 29, 2010, 12:15:17 PM
   
Rap bla,bla,bla... (http://blogs.usatoday.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/13/person05opedonline.jpg) Hip Hop bla,bla,bla...

Fabtoxicp is talking about elements of the MCing   .......   Infinite is talking about the elements of the Hip Hop culture.

do you even read each others post?
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 12:17:23 PM
U DUMB MUDDAFUCCA, ur hellla CONFUSED
this is the ONLY post u had out of all the posts u did (on the subject-matter itself), in the pac-thread

Real recognize real and who feels it knows it. People who feel 2pac know that he put his soul into his music in a way that no rapper ever has or ever will.
And the material he was coming out with in his last days was on such an intense spiritual level, that he connected with his true fans in a way that some will never understand; and thats okay because it wasnt for them to understand.
He knew he was about to leave this planet and tracks like "Blasphemy" and "Hold Your Head" were like his last precious words and legacy he wanted to leave for his fans.
Allah (God) put it in his heart to do that, and it flowed naturally from his viens, he had a burning desire to express and he had to get everything out before Allah could take him from this Earth.


besides this one above, the only posts u did, were basicaly about some fuckin "4 elements" dat didn't have anythin to do wit anythin.. ur confused LOL




and this is the correct feedback i gave ur post on the 4 elements in this thread

dat isn't completely tru - the mc-aspect of the hiphop-musicgenere outweighed the other elements before Mother Time hit us wit the 90's -
One good xample to back this up is---:
Big Daddy Kane's Dj - DJ Mister Cee
he got mad on the lack of awarded credit for DJ's in hiphop, and did a song about the subject
"D.J.'s Got No Credit", back in the 80's (altho it wasn't released in retail-form till 1990/as a bonus-part of a Kane-album)


i never said anythin about the late 80's - IT was available in the 80's (not the late 80's) and it was available in retail-form as part of an album, in 1990. confused dumb-mddafucca


Seriously, this bullshit routine of taking someone around in circles doesn't fool anyone.
im not spinning around in circles, u confused muddafucca. im still waitin on a chance to pop it off - I just gave u an option for my next session in class, but obvioulsy it wasn't good enuff for u.. gimme an example of stuff u want to kno more about.. confused muddafucca  ;)
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Raphael on January 29, 2010, 12:23:13 PM
wth are you guys talking about?
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 01:32:03 PM
U DUMB MUDDAFUCCA, ur hellla CONFUSED
this is the ONLY post u had out of all the posts u did (on the subject-matter itself), in the pac-thread

besides this one above, the only posts u did, were basicaly about some fuckin "4 elements" dat didn't have anythin to do wit anythin.. ur confused LOL


Here we go again... Dude.  Check the 2pac thread... On the first page alone I have around 5 posts totally unrelated to the 4 elements, it wasn't until around the third or fourth page that I even mentioned the 4 elements.  Anyone can just go check the first page of the thread.


and this is the correct feedback i gave ur post on the 4 elements in this thread

dat isn't completely tru - the mc-aspect of the hiphop-musicgenere outweighed the other elements before Mother Time hit us wit the 90's -
One good xample to back this up is---:
Big Daddy Kane's Dj - DJ Mister Cee
he got mad on the lack of awarded credit for DJ's in hiphop, and did a song about the subject
"D.J.'s Got No Credit", back in the 80's (altho it wasn't released in retail-form till 1990/as a bonus-part of a Kane-album)


i never said anythin about the late 80's - IT was available in the 80's (not the late 80's) and it was available in retail-form as part of an album, in 1990. confused dumb-mddafucca


And that's funny you said, "It was available in the 80'" without mentioning that it was in the late 80's; which defeats your point in being petty and agonizing over my words in the first place.   I was only mentioning that in the early 80's and in the 70's rappers would do shows with breakers and DJ's and graph artists would often provide the visuals; that all the 4 elements played a comparable role in the scene that was going on; that it wasn't until the second half of the 80's (late 80's) and into the 90's that rappers came to dominate the scene and become huge superstars.

 
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
these are the exact words u wrote..
The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's

u were incorrect, and i gave u an answer - the rapper's role in hiphop outweighed more than the other elements as early as IN THE 80's --- which doesn't necessarily mean the late 80's, u confused muddafucca..
(and to be honest wit u - it is kinda obvious dat the rapper's been playin a bigger part FOR ALONG TIME - to say dat it didn't took off, until the early 90's is prety dumb and stupid in itself. so nobody gave a fuck about Ice-T's presence on his beats? - IDIOT, his rhymes were the ONLY thing dat ppl took notice of back in 1983, when he first came out - im callin ur bluff, u dont know ANYTHIN)



just looked it up tho -- the Mister Cee-song was released on vinyl for the first time in 1984, and got remixed wit a new instrumental for the retail-release of the Kane-album dat came out in 1990..

U DONT KNO ANYTHIN, AND IM EATIN U ALIVE



Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 02:06:11 PM
The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's

here's another great example, dat i totaly forgot.. sorry

MC Ricky D was an overnight success after he came out in 1984 wit his songs "la-di-da-di", "the show", "children's story" - these songs solidified a new form of rhyming called "story-telling" - and the songs was basicaly only recognized bcause of this new style dat Ricky D brought to the table lyricaly (xcept maybe "the show")

these songs would later go on to inspire young artists in the early 90's - such as Raekwon, Nas, Prodigy
btw, Ricky D is an artist u should study if ur interested in hiphop-culture..

MC Ricky D would later evolve into an artist known today by Slick Rick
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 02:17:21 PM
one of these songs "Children's Story" made a bigger impact than the other ones  - it was even featured (even tho it was nearly 4 years old) for Slick's debut-album - dat come out on Def Jam in 88


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjNTu8jdukA
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on January 29, 2010, 02:30:26 PM
yo my point wasn't that I was out to prove that breakin, DJ'in, or graffiti were as big as the rapper.  That wasn't the purpose of my thread, and it's not any kind of point that I am passionate about upholding.  I was simply giving a brief explanation of the four elements, and why they were called the "4 elements" and how they all played a comparable role in the foundation of hip-hop and were inter-related.  "Equal" may be the wrong word to use in regards to the 80's, because as the 80's went on the rapper started to eclipse the other elements in popularity, although  I thought I made that point by saying "late 80's".   In the 80's breakin (breakdancing) was blowing up, performing at the Olympics and shit like that it achieved international fame and status. 

So if you want to make a big issue of me saying that the 4 elements played an "equal" role in the foundation of hip-hop, and you want to argue that the rapper has always been front and center, or that he was in early 80's... go ahead and make that argument.  I don't necessarily agree or disagree; it's not a major issue with me.
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 29, 2010, 02:42:51 PM
QUOTE
yo my point wasn't that I was out to prove that breakin, DJ'in, or graffiti were as big as the rapper.

Earlier, the same day
QUOTE
The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's

u are confused as fuck, and u dont kno anythin about anythin - im callin ur bluff..
ur done
u just got destroyed

/thank u
 8)

Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Blood$ on January 29, 2010, 03:57:39 PM
fabtoxicp has 666 posts right now  ;D
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: kevin t on January 29, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
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Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 29, 2010, 06:16:52 PM
QUOTE
yo my point wasn't that I was out to prove that breakin, DJ'in, or graffiti were as big as the rapper.

Earlier, the same day
QUOTE
The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's

u are confused as fuck, and u dont kno anythin about anythin - im callin ur bluff..
ur done
u just got destroyed

/thank u
 8)



lmao, u seriously have some anger issues lil homie, did u just get dumped by a girl/boy cause from the beginning of this & 2pac thread u weren't even cussing. now u been cussin everyone in here, lmao are you also hitting your keyboard haha...bottom line is these few things i will mention to you cause after this imma leave u alone to fight everyone else in here lol:

1 i understood your lil argument about the mc, four elements of hip hop blah blah, freestyling and all that bullshyt....
2 there's 2 different types of ways of looking at this whole senseless threads you started:
i look at the whole issue completely, you the type of kid that don't get the whole picture cause u just too ignorant, dumb & simply not able to understand anything completely...i see 2pac as the realest u see dumb niggaz like beans as the realest, scarface does have a case though but beans lmao, i see pac as a complete artist and u see him as a overrated. thats cool its ur opinion u entitled to have it but it don't mean you right, same goes for me but i can tell u this, a lot more people agree with me than u.....the only retards that see it ur way are kids....you haven't destroyed me or anyone else in this forum at all but u have made yourself look really stupid in the process...the bottom line here is this any of the rappers u mentioned in both threads haven't touched the fans the way pac has plain n simple, they will never be in that level anyways so u can keep being retarted cause the world does need people like you anyways, it keeps people like me n others entertained  ;)....peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee    
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Matty on January 29, 2010, 08:20:23 PM
 :oi: :catfight: :oi:
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 30, 2010, 02:57:06 AM
QUOTE
yo my point wasn't that I was out to prove that breakin, DJ'in, or graffiti were as big as the rapper.

Earlier, the same day
QUOTE
The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's

u are confused as fuck, and u dont kno anythin about anythin - im callin ur bluff..
ur done
u just got destroyed

/thank u
 8)



lmao, u seriously have some anger issues lil homie, did u just get dumped by a girl/boy cause from the beginning of this & 2pac thread u weren't even cussing. now u been cussin everyone in here, lmao are you also hitting your keyboard haha...bottom line is these few things i will mention to you cause after this imma leave u alone to fight everyone else in here lol:

1 i understood your lil argument about the mc, four elements of hip hop blah blah, freestyling and all that bullshyt....
2 there's 2 different types of ways of looking at this whole senseless threads you started:
i look at the whole issue completely, you the type of kid that don't get the whole picture cause u just too ignorant, dumb & simply not able to understand anything completely...i see 2pac as the realest u see dumb niggaz like beans as the realest, scarface does have a case though but beans lmao, i see pac as a complete artist and u see him as a overrated. thats cool its ur opinion u entitled to have it but it don't mean you right, same goes for me but i can tell u this, a lot more people agree with me than u.....the only retards that see it ur way are kids....you haven't destroyed me or anyone else in this forum at all but u have made yourself look really stupid in the process...the bottom line here is this any of the rappers u mentioned in both threads haven't touched the fans the way pac has plain n simple, they will never be in that level anyways so u can keep being retarted cause the world does need people like you anyways, it keeps people like me n others entertained  ;)....peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee    

i will not debate wit a person dat i had a dialogue like this wit, earlier
FABTOXICP: you are not 37 - and if u are, then ur mama must've dropped u on the floor as an infant - cus u sure as hell isn't sendin out grown-up vibes - 15 year olds has accomplished more in this debate than u, so u must forgive me - if my impression of u is dat ur NOT older than 12..

U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. my mama had good grip so i was never dropped in the floor...
 

::)
the dumb fuckin nigga, never understood the fuckin irony in my question - and became all defensive, tryin to xplain some shit.  :laugh:

U BUM, nothin u say is relevant - and i cant take u seriously. u are serioulsy underdeveloped..
this nigga was talkin down on eastcoast-style of music, but at the same havin a pic of Crooked in his signature..  ::)

a lot more people agree with me than u....
dats a 50/50 thing -  there is as many dat agrees dat he was "overrated"  u dumb fucc. prove me the opposite - nobody has backed u up anywhere

lmao, u seriously have some anger issues lil homie,
when stupidity repeats itself, it tends to be frustrating.. BUT the only one's dat were emotional, were the teenagers in the pac-thred (ppl like u), who cried immaturely when somebody said dat their hero was "overrated". *snff, sniff* *OH NO, WHATARE U SAYIN, NOOOOO* go cut urself in the wrist, emo-fuck.  :D

if u wanna defend the legacy of ur hero wit intelience in a debate wit words, go ahead n be my guest (u were the worst one to dialogue wit in thepac-thread) - instead of actin all emotional as soon as u hear about a guy dat doesn't feel the same way, you dumb muddafucca you
AND U ARE NOT 37  ;D

the world does need people like you anyways, it keeps people like me n others entertained
uhh, it's the other way around really.. wit classic "quotes" like the one's above - u have officialy been CROWNED - "village-looney of dubcc". one, if not THE, dumbest muddafuccas on this forum.. u and dat african-guy RedMagic-somethin.
and there is no ways round it. u are goin to carry around dat "stamp" for life..   :D





Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 30, 2010, 06:05:26 AM
QUOTE
yo my point wasn't that I was out to prove that breakin, DJ'in, or graffiti were as big as the rapper.

Earlier, the same day
QUOTE
The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's

u are confused as fuck, and u dont kno anythin about anythin - im callin ur bluff..
ur done
u just got destroyed

/thank u
 8)



lmao, u seriously have some anger issues lil homie, did u just get dumped by a girl/boy cause from the beginning of this & 2pac thread u weren't even cussing. now u been cussin everyone in here, lmao are you also hitting your keyboard haha...bottom line is these few things i will mention to you cause after this imma leave u alone to fight everyone else in here lol:

1 i understood your lil argument about the mc, four elements of hip hop blah blah, freestyling and all that bullshyt....
2 there's 2 different types of ways of looking at this whole senseless threads you started:
i look at the whole issue completely, you the type of kid that don't get the whole picture cause u just too ignorant, dumb & simply not able to understand anything completely...i see 2pac as the realest u see dumb niggaz like beans as the realest, scarface does have a case though but beans lmao, i see pac as a complete artist and u see him as a overrated. thats cool its ur opinion u entitled to have it but it don't mean you right, same goes for me but i can tell u this, a lot more people agree with me than u.....the only retards that see it ur way are kids....you haven't destroyed me or anyone else in this forum at all but u have made yourself look really stupid in the process...the bottom line here is this any of the rappers u mentioned in both threads haven't touched the fans the way pac has plain n simple, they will never be in that level anyways so u can keep being retarted cause the world does need people like you anyways, it keeps people like me n others entertained  ;)....peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee    

i will not debate wit a person dat i had a dialogue like this wit, earlier
FABTOXICP: you are not 37 - and if u are, then ur mama must've dropped u on the floor as an infant - cus u sure as hell isn't sendin out grown-up vibes - 15 year olds has accomplished more in this debate than u, so u must forgive me - if my impression of u is dat ur NOT older than 12..

U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. my mama had good grip so i was never dropped in the floor...
 

::)
the dumb fuckin nigga, never understood the fuckin irony in my question - and became all defensive, tryin to xplain some shit.  :laugh:

U BUM, nothin u say is relevant - and i cant take u seriously. u are serioulsy underdeveloped..
this nigga was talkin down on eastcoast-style of music, but at the same havin a pic of Crooked in his signature..  ::)

a lot more people agree with me than u....
dats a 50/50 thing -  there is as many dat agrees dat he was "overrated"  u dumb fucc. prove me the opposite - nobody has backed u up anywhere

lmao, u seriously have some anger issues lil homie,
when stupidity repeats itself, it tends to be frustrating.. BUT the only one's dat were emotional, were the teenagers in the pac-thred (ppl like u), who cried immaturely when somebody said dat their hero was "overrated". *snff, sniff* *OH NO, WHATARE U SAYIN, NOOOOO* go cut urself in the wrist, emo-fuck.  :D

if u wanna defend the legacy of ur hero wit intelience in a debate wit words, go ahead n be my guest (u were the worst one to dialogue wit in thepac-thread) - instead of actin all emotional as soon as u hear about a guy dat doesn't feel the same way, you dumb muddafucca you
AND U ARE NOT 37  ;D

the world does need people like you anyways, it keeps people like me n others entertained
uhh, it's the other way around really.. wit classic "quotes" like the one's above - u have officialy been CROWNED - "village-looney of dubcc". one, if not THE, dumbest muddafuccas on this forum.. u and dat african-guy RedMagic-somethin.
and there is no ways round it. u are goin to carry around dat "stamp" for life..   :D







ughhh not good enough please try harder next time rookie... ;)

p.s. crooked i is not a eastcoast rapper he's a westcoast rapper...
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 30, 2010, 07:38:52 AM
LMAO at u.  ;D
 :laugh:
 :laugh:
stop stalkin niggas into other threads, just because u got ur emotions hurt somewhere else/when somebody said dat he didnt like pac's music as much as u did.. u young-azz dumb muddafucca..
go and listen to 2pac "pain", and cut urself in the wrists a few a times - and shed some tears --  :'(
 lost emo-kids these days  ;)


yo mama thinks ur ugly
go and take care of the cattle, and count some sheep - village-looney.. and shave ur armpits while ur at it..  ;D
 :-*

PS: u were talkin down on "eastcoat-music", not "eastcoast-rappers", u dumb muddafucca - NOW, Crook usually does eastcoast-style of music. what group is he in?
..dumb muddafucca  ;D
 :D



FABTOXICP: you are not 37 - and if u are, then ur mama must've dropped u on the floor as an infant - cus u sure as hell isn't sendin out grown-up vibes - 15 year olds has accomplished more in this debate than u, so u must forgive me - if my impression of u is dat ur NOT older than 12..

U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. my mama had good grip so i was never dropped in the floor...

WE ONY REACHED FEB, BUT WE STILL GOT A QUOTE OF THE YEAR
Title: Re: Okay fabtox said to make a thread so he could school me in hip-hop
Post by: Muhfukka on January 31, 2010, 04:53:35 PM

So there you had it.  Right there in the Bronx.  In the 60's, 70's and up to the early 80's you had 4 equal parts of a culture.  Like you may go to a park, and hear a DJ playing some breaks, while a rapper would keep the crowd entertained, introduce the breakin crews as they stepped up to do battle.  (The rapper was just an equal part of the 4 elements back in the day, he didn't really become the front and center superstar until the late 80's and early 90's)  Then late into the night crews would tag up the subways.  



hahahaah youre a rich white kid who wasnt even alive back then