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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Dre-Day on February 04, 2010, 01:48:06 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/G68bCXbZvjg
first of all, i want to state that i don't think 50 cent ruined the beat at all: i generally dislike club music but this song is an exception.
it's just that i prefer a hardcore type of song for that beat.
either by 50 cent himself, or someone else that Dre was working with at the time: Xzibit is an option to me, for example.
you can't say that the beat was meant for a club song, as 50 cent took it from a beat CD.
besides, Dre was expecting a different direction from 50, but he liked the way it turned out.
as far as the poll is concerned: you may be used to hearing the 50 cent version, but base your vote on your taste.
use your imagination
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I gotta say, man, 50 owned it to the point where I really can't imagine nobody else on it. It's a hard record to fuck with.
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Hard to say... Game would have murdered this if this was a Documentary beat, but like Jimmy said it's hard to imagine someone else on this beat.
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Nah this is 50s beat,nobody elses.This is one of the most prolific singles in the history of rap music.
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Nah, i wouldn't. Xzibit or Dre maybe would have sounded tight over this beat though. The D-12 version was GARBAGE, wasn't the beat supposed to be for them?
you can't say that the beat was meant for a club song, as 50 cent took it from a beat CD.
What the fuck do you mean by that?
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Nah this is 50s beat,nobody elses.This is one of the most prolific singles in the history of rap music.
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I gotta say, man, 50 owned it to the point where I really can't imagine nobody else on it. It's a hard record to fuck with.
Hard to say... Game would have murdered this if this was a Documentary beat, but like Jimmy said it's hard to imagine someone else on this beat.
what about 50 himself, don't you prefer different content for that beat?
i prefer Heat over In da club.
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Hard to say... Game would have murdered this if this was a Documentary beat, but like Jimmy said it's hard to imagine someone else on this beat.
The dickrider in me agree's with that statement. But i think 50 did a good job with it, but yeah, hearing Dre & Xzibit on it might have been dope too.
Or 50,Game,Buck.
but that's just my opinion...
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^^^^^^that's what this topic is about, opinions ;) :laugh:
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I gotta say, man, 50 owned it to the point where I really can't imagine nobody else on it. It's a hard record to fuck with.
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^^^^^^that's what this topic is about, opinions ;) :laugh:
haha i know. But let's face it, around here, when you state your real opinion, people are gonna bash you like Kanye west after an award ceremony, and you're karma gon be droppin like Hayden Panettiere's panties the moment she steps into my room...
that's why whenever i say something against the grain, I make it a point to remind people that discussion boards are for stating opinions :P
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haha i know. But let's face it, around here, when you state your real opinion, people are gonna bash you like Kanye west after an award ceremony, and you're karma gon be droppin like Hayden Panettiere's panties the moment she steps into my room...
that's why whenever i say something against the grain, I make it a point to remind people that discussion boards are for stating opinions :P
Make sure you don't talk bad about Dr. Dre or your karma gonna go down just like mine is goin' down every once an hour ;)
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haha i know. But let's face it, around here, when you state your real opinion, people are gonna bash you like Kanye west after an award ceremony, and you're karma gon be droppin like Hayden Panettiere's panties the moment she steps into my room...
that's why whenever i say something against the grain, I make it a point to remind people that discussion boards are for stating opinions :P
Make sure you don't talk bad about Dr. Dre or your karma gonna go down just like mine is goin' down every once an hour ;)
Dr. Dre fan #1 fan :P i wont talk bad the good doctor lol :P
I got your okka lol. it also went back up twice :P.
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The D-12 version was GARBAGE, wasn't the beat supposed to be for them?
Care to up it?
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The D-12 version was GARBAGE, wasn't the beat supposed to be for them?
Care to up it?
Yeah, i'll have to find it first. I'll look through my burned mix CD's.
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^^^^^^that's what this topic is about, opinions ;) :laugh:
haha i know. But let's face it, around here, when you state your real opinion, people are gonna bash you like Kanye west after an award ceremony, and you're karma gon be droppin like Hayden Panettiere's panties the moment she steps into my room...
that's why whenever i say something against the grain, I make it a point to remind people that discussion boards are for stating opinions :P
oh well fuck them 8)
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Well, this beat fits 50's cadence.
Yes, that same cadence that he has not deviated from to this day.
With that being said.... Xzibit would have absolutely murdered this.
50 did great with it though. 50's rapping on GRODT was just great, for the most part. Then came the rest of his career....
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I kinda feel the same way about the beat Dre did for Mary J Blige on "Family Affair". Obviously with her the song takes on an R&B vibe, but listen to the instrumental and it really just becomes a beat that didn't make the final cut on Chronic 2001. You can say any one of the 2001 camp could spit a good 16 bars over it....Xzibit, Hittman, Eminem, Snoop, Kurupt...but the beat still doesn't sound hardcore or gangsta, still would've been a club/radio single without MJB. What I really would've liked to see is the Family Affair beat given to Nate Dogg. I think it could've been a big hit for Nate, with a guest verse from Dre or Snoop. We can only imagine....
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d12 were originaly meant to rap on the beat, but they passed on it. but they did lace the beat, after "in da club" blew up. just a mixtape joint tho.. not an original version
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the instrumental was also meant to be less developed on the OG D12 version.
to be fair, i think if there is one track you can give it up to 50 on, this is it. he makes the beat into an ideal club single, a seminal gangsta-pop crossover vibe that will go down in music history. i doubt many others rappers could have pulled this off, especially with the hook.
vote for 50 version.
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this is one of the biggest, most major singles in Hip Hop history; it's got a club feel to it; who could of done the beat more justice?
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I thought Rakim is the one who passed on this beat, if i remember correctly. I remember a Mike Elizondo interview where he explains that an artist they were working on passed on the beat just before 50 took it. The only artist at that time was Rakim. D12 just used the beat on a mixtape after the fact?
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I kinda feel the same way about the beat Dre did for Mary J Blige on "Family Affair". Obviously with her the song takes on an R&B vibe, but listen to the instrumental and it really just becomes a beat that didn't make the final cut on Chronic 2001. You can say any one of the 2001 camp could spit a good 16 bars over it....Xzibit, Hittman, Eminem, Snoop, Kurupt...but the beat still doesn't sound hardcore or gangsta, still would've been a club/radio single without MJB. What I really would've liked to see is the Family Affair beat given to Nate Dogg. I think it could've been a big hit for Nate, with a guest verse from Dre or Snoop. We can only imagine....
wasen´t there a dre produced nate dogg song a few years ago
i think it was a bad quality radio rip if i remember right
who remember the name of the song or got the song?????
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I kinda feel the same way about the beat Dre did for Mary J Blige on "Family Affair". Obviously with her the song takes on an R&B vibe, but listen to the instrumental and it really just becomes a beat that didn't make the final cut on Chronic 2001. You can say any one of the 2001 camp could spit a good 16 bars over it....Xzibit, Hittman, Eminem, Snoop, Kurupt...but the beat still doesn't sound hardcore or gangsta, still would've been a club/radio single without MJB. What I really would've liked to see is the Family Affair beat given to Nate Dogg. I think it could've been a big hit for Nate, with a guest verse from Dre or Snoop. We can only imagine....
wasen´t there a dre produced nate dogg song a few years ago
i think it was a bad quality radio rip if i remember right
who remember the name of the song or got the song?????
yup it was called 'leave it alone' or something....octo hinted he might be able to hook it up. nothing yet though.
its listed in the C.V. http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=30148.0
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Nate Dogg - Leave It Alone Produced By Dr. Dre
http://www.zshare.net/audio/72157408fb62b1ce/
back to topic... i put over a hundred acapellas over that beat and of course i got an xzibit and d12 version.. but yo i cant tell you but as i took that specific acapella on it, my heart just stopped lol...
i hope i can let you hear it soon... will bless yall with a full remix in the next couple of weeks tho.. not that in da club one tho
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Rakim passed on Heat and Back Down, not In Da Club, if I remember correctly.
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Nate Dogg - Leave It Alone Produced By Dr. Dre
http://www.zshare.net/audio/72157408fb62b1ce/
back to topic... i put over a hundred acapellas over that beat and of course i got an xzibit and d12 version.. but yo i cant tell you but as i took that specific acapella on it, my heart just stopped lol...
i hope i can let you hear it soon... will bless yall with a full remix in the next couple of weeks tho.. not that in da club one tho
thanxx damn we need 2 get our hands on this in good quality
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Nah this is 50s beat,nobody elses.This is one of the most prolific singles in the history of rap music.
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I kinda feel the same way about the beat Dre did for Mary J Blige on "Family Affair". Obviously with her the song takes on an R&B vibe, but listen to the instrumental and it really just becomes a beat that didn't make the final cut on Chronic 2001. You can say any one of the 2001 camp could spit a good 16 bars over it....Xzibit, Hittman, Eminem, Snoop, Kurupt...but the beat still doesn't sound hardcore or gangsta, still would've been a club/radio single without MJB. What I really would've liked to see is the Family Affair beat given to Nate Dogg. I think it could've been a big hit for Nate, with a guest verse from Dre or Snoop. We can only imagine....
hehe, what a coincidence ;)
nice to see that you used your imagination :laugh:
this is one of the biggest, most major singles in Hip Hop history; it's got a club feel to it; who could of done the beat more justice?
do you really think so, or is it because you're used to hearing the 50 cent version?
i mean, if the beat was used for a different song and/or for a different rapper, we would be used to that version :laugh:
50 cent did his thing though, like Matty said.
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this is one of the biggest, most major singles in Hip Hop history; it's got a club feel to it; who could of done the beat more justice?
do you really think so, or is it because you're used to hearing the 50 cent version?
i mean, if the beat was used for a different song and/or for a different rapper, we would be used to that version :laugh:
50 cent did his thing though, like Matty said.
i didn't necessarily mean "biggest, most major" as in "the greatest"; just in terms of sales & popularity.
& yeah, i guess if someone else used the beat, i could be here saying the same thing about someone else; but the song was sick; great club banger & for a song written for the intentions of the club, not many people could of done it better than 50 did it.
50 was also running with the hype at the time too that factored into the success; i know if Rakim took this beat, it wouldn't matter if he said word for word 50 Cent's bars, i don't feel it would of came close to the amount of success.
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Rakim passed on Heat and Back Down, not In Da Club, if I remember correctly.
For real? Rakim would of sounded sick over Heat. I can imagine it now.
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Yeah for Heat I'm sure. But he didn't know what to do with the beat...
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Nah this is 50s beat,nobody elses.This is one of the most prolific singles in the history of rap music.
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Rakim passed on Heat and Back Down, not In Da Club, if I remember correctly.
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http://www.songwritersuniverse.com/elizondo.htm
Following the tremendous success of The Eminem Show album (which he co-wrote four songs, including the hit “Business”), Elizondo & Dr. Dre focused on writing with 50 Cent, who had signed a co-venture deal with Eminem’s Shady Records and Dr. Dre’s Aftermath Records. The duo co-wrote four songs for his Get Rich Or Die Tryin’ album, including the breakthrough hit, “In Da Club.”
“[Dre & I] actually wrote the track six months before, but the artist we were working on at the time passed on it,” recalled Elizondo. “But we felt strongly about the track, so we stashed it away until we played it for 50 (Cent). He loved it, and he fiercely started writing the lyrics. About an hour later, 50 had written the entire lyric. He came back in the room and started singing (the now famous intro) ‘Go Shorty, it’s your birthday, we’re gonna party like, it’s your birthday’.” Notably, “In Da Club” also turned out to be the first cut which Elizondo received a production credit with Dr. Dre. He is now credited as producer (with Dr. Dre) on all of their cuts together.
also another cool interview about the rich girl song...notice he doesnt mention brooklyn's name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBhshMCNOzw&feature=related
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it was for D12 originally.
Kon Artis or one of the dudes of the group said so in an interview..
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dre day why is this song so dope?
whats so dope about this song?
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dre day why is this song so dope?
whats so dope about this song?
the best song on "chronic" and the best dre-song ever IMO
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haha my bad nah i was askin dre day the member
but why is this song so dope?
im not sayin its wack, but classic? years later the song itself is borin not the album
many men>>>>>in da club (and obviously many men is slow but damn at least its not borin)
for a club beat its cool but damn its borin
dre day why is this song so dope?
whats so dope about this song?
the best song on "chronic" and the best dre-song ever IMO
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this is one of the biggest, most major singles in Hip Hop history; it's got a club feel to it; who could of done the beat more justice?
do you really think so, or is it because you're used to hearing the 50 cent version?
i mean, if the beat was used for a different song and/or for a different rapper, we would be used to that version :laugh:
50 cent did his thing though, like Matty said.
i didn't necessarily mean "biggest, most major" as in "the greatest"; just in terms of sales & popularity.
& yeah, i guess if someone else used the beat, i could be here saying the same thing about someone else; but the song was sick; great club banger & for a song written for the intentions of the club, not many people could of done it better than 50 did it.
50 was also running with the hype at the time too that factored into the success; i know if Rakim took this beat, it wouldn't matter if he said word for word 50 Cent's bars, i don't feel it would of came close to the amount of success.
i can't picture Rakim on it either :P
haha my bad nah i was askin dre day the member
but why is this song so dope?
im not sayin its wack, but classic? years later the song itself is borin not the album
many men>>>>>in da club (and obviously many men is slow but damn at least its not borin)
for a club beat its cool but damn its borin
dre day why is this song so dope?
whats so dope about this song?
the best song on "chronic" and the best dre-song ever IMO
well you've seen the responses in this topic, haven't you :laugh:
anyway, i thought it was clear that i pointed out that the song isn't that good to me, but quite good - not the best song on the album.
i understand that you don't like it, but why do you think it's boring?
that beat tells a story IMO, it has a lot going on.
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its borin cuz it doesnt change up and 50 isnt the most entertainin rapper IMO
that beat is like walkin down a street and the walkin never ends....goin, goin, goin
again on that album its better than blood hound IMo but damn why this is looked at as a classic banger, is crazy to me
any old 50 cent muzik>>>>>>in da club
this is one of the biggest, most major singles in Hip Hop history; it's got a club feel to it; who could of done the beat more justice?
do you really think so, or is it because you're used to hearing the 50 cent version?
i mean, if the beat was used for a different song and/or for a different rapper, we would be used to that version :laugh:
50 cent did his thing though, like Matty said.
i didn't necessarily mean "biggest, most major" as in "the greatest"; just in terms of sales & popularity.
& yeah, i guess if someone else used the beat, i could be here saying the same thing about someone else; but the song was sick; great club banger & for a song written for the intentions of the club, not many people could of done it better than 50 did it.
50 was also running with the hype at the time too that factored into the success; i know if Rakim took this beat, it wouldn't matter if he said word for word 50 Cent's bars, i don't feel it would of came close to the amount of success.
i can't picture Rakim on it either :P
haha my bad nah i was askin dre day the member
but why is this song so dope?
im not sayin its wack, but classic? years later the song itself is borin not the album
many men>>>>>in da club (and obviously many men is slow but damn at least its not borin)
for a club beat its cool but damn its borin
dre day why is this song so dope?
whats so dope about this song?
the best song on "chronic" and the best dre-song ever IMO
well you've seen the responses in this topic, haven't you :laugh:
anyway, i thought it was clear that i pointed out that the song isn't that good to me, but quite good - not the best song on the album.
i understand that you don't like it, but why do you think it's boring?
that beat tells a story IMO, it has a lot going on.
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it doesn't change up?
that's not true
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it doesn't change up?
that's not true
yea, in fact its one of the few hip-hop beats i can think of off the top of my head with a bridge in it, lol.
i think it might even change key on the bridge, which is basically unheard of in hip-hop.
this beat is interesting... cuz i feel like dre tried to re-create it over and over again this decade... and just couldn't get the magic back.
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to each is own but thats one of the borin-est beats ever
yeah it changes up but nuthin drastic and thats expected in all songs where they change up but some change up more than others like HEAT,IF I CANT, POPPIN THEM THANGZ
poppin them thangz= one of the best beats ever (see all the complications goin on in this song) in da club dont have nuthin
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to each is own but thats one of the borin-est beats ever
yeah it changes up but nuthin drastic and thats expected in all songs where they change up but some change up more than others like HEAT,IF I CANT, POPPIN THEM THANGZ
poppin them thangz= one of the best beats ever (see all the complications goin on in this song) in da club dont have nuthin
Well, that's certainly your opinion but to me, 50 just owns the instrumental. You're saying he doesn't switch it up but he's moving all around the record. To me, it's an artist bringing their creative A-game to the table. It might not be every person's favorite record but in terms of an artist giving Dre something extra to work with, it's there. It kind of reminds me of "Kill You" off the Marshall Mathers LP where the energy and passion of the content almost drowns out the fact that it's a Dr. Dre production. To me, it's like saying how would so and so sound over the "Billie Jean" instrumental. I mean, I'm not saying the song is on that level but it's like, come on, man. 50 made that HIS record. I personally think it's a monster beat in its own right but it's not like some fucking amateur went in there and the beat made them a star. I mean, you might have somebody else that would have spit meaner 16's over the "Gin & Juice" beat before they brought it to Snoop but Snoop turned that mother fucker out. Sometimes, and I know hip-hop fans hate hearing this, but sometimes it's about who can make a hit record out of it.
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Yeah I dont even think this is up for debate to anyone in hip hop except a few misguided 50 haters.This beat is his nobody else could have made this track what it is.
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i don't hate 50 cent, check the first post
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well first off...not directed at you i dont hate 50
and yeah this sounds best with 50 on it but im talkin years later, this song is borin and was even borin back then but not as much
im not sayin 50 is wack on this but at the same time the beat is borin itself
50 is actually a very entertainin' rapper but this on particular song it borin
so its not that 50 is borin all the time jus the beat is borin and he adjusted to the beat and is borin on this song
but not thats not the case for every single song by him....haha
to each is own but thats one of the borin-est beats ever
yeah it changes up but nuthin drastic and thats expected in all songs where they change up but some change up more than others like HEAT,IF I CANT, POPPIN THEM THANGZ
poppin them thangz= one of the best beats ever (see all the complications goin on in this song) in da club dont have nuthin
Well, that's certainly your opinion but to me, 50 just owns the instrumental. You're saying he doesn't switch it up but he's moving all around the record. To me, it's an artist bringing their creative A-game to the table. It might not be every person's favorite record but in terms of an artist giving Dre something extra to work with, it's there. It kind of reminds me of "Kill You" off the Marshall Mathers LP where the energy and passion of the content almost drowns out the fact that it's a Dr. Dre production. To me, it's like saying how would so and so sound over the "Billie Jean" instrumental. I mean, I'm not saying the song is on that level but it's like, come on, man. 50 made that HIS record. I personally think it's a monster beat in its own right but it's not like some fucking amateur went in there and the beat made them a star. I mean, you might have somebody else that would have spit meaner 16's over the "Gin & Juice" beat before they brought it to Snoop but Snoop turned that mother fucker out. Sometimes, and I know hip-hop fans hate hearing this, but sometimes it's about who can make a hit record out of it.
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well first off...not directed at you i dont hate 50
and yeah this sounds best with 50 on it but im talkin years later, this song is borin and was even borin back then but not as much
im not sayin 50 is wack on this but at the same time the beat is borin itself
50 is actually a very entertainin' rapper but this on particular song it borin
so its not that 50 is borin all the time jus the beat is borin and he adjusted to the beat and is borin on this song
but not thats not the case for every single song by him....haha
Well, like I said. That's certainly your opinion. Every one has a song that's a mega hit that somebody out there probably thinks is boring. I just don't agree. I think the beat is probably one of Dre's best from that period and I really feel 50 took it and did something great with it.
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the beat is cool, and the lyrics are cool
what traxx you think could be better than this song from that time or all time?
some are makin this song out to be the best song ever, let along best 50 song and its far from both.....IMO
well first off...not directed at you i dont hate 50
and yeah this sounds best with 50 on it but im talkin years later, this song is borin and was even borin back then but not as much
im not sayin 50 is wack on this but at the same time the beat is borin itself
50 is actually a very entertainin' rapper but this on particular song it borin
so its not that 50 is borin all the time jus the beat is borin and he adjusted to the beat and is borin on this song
but not thats not the case for every single song by him....haha
Well, like I said. That's certainly your opinion. Every one has a song that's a mega hit that somebody out there probably thinks is boring. I just don't agree. I think the beat is probably one of Dre's best from that period and I really feel 50 took it and did something great with it.
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Interesting topic but ima have to vote the OG...
like someone said, i dont think anybody could have done the beat more justice. It helped 50 become the supperstar he is and it made dre more money than any other star could have given it. I still see people going 'goo shawwty, its ya bday' for certain, certified club classic.
I remember it helped make a whole bunch of remixes etc too but nah, 50z version was the best and i really dont think anyone could have done a better job on it.
I like all sorts of music, i like my hardcore vibe, i like lyrical music, i like club music, i like music wit a mellow vibe, slow jams, everything, so i have an open ear but to me, i cant imagine it being done better by anyone to be honest. It was huge. eminem>>>>>>>>50 cent but i just could imagine him sounded so gay over the beat, xzibit i could imagine on the joint but i dont think he would do it more justice.
I actually think 50 probably gave it more life and justice than anyone could have at that type and while i dont really get into 50 at all since GRODT, i gotta give dude his props for that. As a game fan, i dont think game would be fuckin with 50 at all on it either. 50 held it down in my opinion!
Its all about opinions though
pz!
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the beat is cool, and the lyrics are cool
what traxx you think could be better than this song from that time or all time?
some are makin this song out to be the best song ever, let along best 50 song and its far from both.....IMO
I think it's one of the best, if not the best club song of all times.
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I don't know. Best song is pretty subjective. I'd never say "In Da Club" was the greatest song in music history but I don't put a lot of thought into it like that. I mean, it's hard to compare music if it's not going for a similar vibe because thing is music and artists are so diverse when it comes to style that a legit comparison is hard to make. You'll have people who will break it down to taste and which artist speaks to them more but really if I'm having a tough day, I'm probably gonna prefer something like "Changes" over a club song like "In Da Club" but does that make it better? I mean, Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On" is a much deeper and emotional song than say, Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" but I think the latter is one of the most incredibly-produced and performed pop records of my lifetime. So I don't know where "In Da Club" would rank amongst music that year or in the long run but I know beyond being one of the most succesful singles, commercially, it was a very significant song for its time and 50's career. It might not have got people to go out and vote or feed starving children in some third-world country but lots of mother fuckers loved the song. Was it better than Snoop's "Beautiful" or whatever Britney Spears song was big on the charts around that time? I can't say. I do feel in the thread's intended debate, 50 was the best artist for that instrumental and made the most out of it. Maybe someone else could have rocked it better but who's to say "California Love" wouldn't have been just as huge a single with just Dre or "Nuthin' But A G-Thang" wouldn't have worked way better without Snoop and Dre on it at all? I think there are some songs where the production or chorus is so enthralling that the featured artist's contributions almost feel incidental to its success but I don't think "In Da Club" qualifies.
the beat is cool, and the lyrics are cool
what traxx you think could be better than this song from that time or all time?
some are makin this song out to be the best song ever, let along best 50 song and its far from both.....IMO
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yeah but the beat bein borin or not as good as some are makin it out to be is separate than how 50 rapped on it was wack
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The D-12 version was GARBAGE, wasn't the beat supposed to be for them?
Care to up it?
found it by coincidence by going through some D-12 mixtapes.
let me know if you still want it
http://www.youtube.com/v/TpWT3Z6nodc
edit: notice how the instrumental is different towards the end^^
perhaps that's the OG version
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The D-12 version was GARBAGE, wasn't the beat supposed to be for them?
Care to up it?
found it by coincidence by going through some D-12 mixtapes.
let me know if you still want it
http://www.youtube.com/v/TpWT3Z6nodc
edit: notice how the instrumental is different towards the end^^
perhaps that's the OG version
yeah.
sort off a street version of it.
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damn that og version if worked....maybe could have been better
still not feelin that album version