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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Chamillitary Click on February 08, 2010, 03:01:01 PM
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http://www.nba.com/2010/news/02/07/labor.nba/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2
NEW YORK (AP) -- The NFL's party week was briefly interrupted by a sobering message about the league's labor situation.
Now it could be the NBA's turn.
The league's collective bargaining agreement also will expire in 2011, and management and the players' association will meet next weekend during the All-Star events in Dallas as they try to negotiate a new one.
Indications are it won't be easy. CBSSports.com, citing a person familiar with the document, reported that the first proposal the league sent the union last week called for a reduction of the players' share of the basketball-related income from 57 percent to below 50, as well as reductions in the length and amount of maximum value contracts, and elements of a "hard" salary cap to replace the current system that forces teams exceeding the cap to pay a luxury tax.
Neither the league nor the union have commented about the proposal, but it will surely be a topic when commissioner David Stern, and perhaps players' association executive director Billy Hunter, meets with the media on Saturday.
Last week before the Super Bowl in Miami, DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the NFL's players union, strongly warned of a potential lockout. He called the chances of football not being played in 2011 after the league's CBA expires a "14" on a scale of 1 to 10.
Stern said he will not ask Hunter to avoid saying anything similar that would spoil the good times in Dallas, where the league is expecting Cowboys Stadium to host the largest crowd ever to watch a basketball game.
"There's nothing that I could or would do with respect to Billy's ability to say anything," Stern told The Associated Press. "That's his job, that's his obligation and we understand it. We could go to the table and switch sides and argue the other side. That's just the reality of it and so eventually there will be a deal, and we hope it's going to be sooner rather than later."
Hunter sometimes appears with Stern at the commissioner's annual state of the league press conference on All-Star Saturday night, but it's not clear if he will do so this year -- especially if Friday's bargaining session goes poorly.
The sides already held some informal meetings last summer and exchanged some financial documents, getting an early start on what could be difficult negotiations. The economic downturn hit many team owners hard and they are seeking significant changes in a system that the players argue has largely worked.
Stern has said the central issue will be the division of revenues, though a reduction in maximum deals would surely anger some of the league's superstars -- especially with LeBron James and Dwyane Wade among those hoping to sign some this summer. Players can currently re-sign with their own teams for up to six years and with other teams for five.
The league's last lockout reduced the 1999 season to 50 games. Stern has been optimistic that starting talks early will help prevent another work stoppage.
"At the end of the day, we have a combined interest with our players to grow the pie to the greatest extent possible," Stern said. "And then we need a sustained business model to make sure that our players in effect remain the highest-paid players in professional sports and that our teams have the opportunity to be profitable.
"I'm sure that reasonable people can disagree about the exact formula that gets you there, but I don't think reasonable people will disagree on the desirability of our goal and so we'll just have to find something that works for both sides."
The current deal will expire July 1, 2011. The league has an option to extend it another year, but has already informed the players it won't.
LMFAO, so next year there will be no NFL or NBA.
Pros:
-more College Basketball.
-no NBA.
-Dominican Republican Baseball televised to fill space; more Baseball.
Cons:
-can't watch the phenom that is LeBron James.
-no Charles Barkley halftime show on TNT. :-X
-there might not be an NFL!(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/Jeffg0107/Smiley/Suicide.gif)
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Fuck the NBA anyways, team stealing motherfuckers, David Stern can choke on a dick.
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so the nba/nfl want what the players
whats more important the players or the clubs? haha
the players are the ones makin the plays
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lol, we're going through a depression and these guys are complaining about not gettin their kid a lambo or ferrari for their first kid?
lmfao, these guys are ridiculous
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there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
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there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
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there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
Pretty much
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why not complain when the leagues bring in billions?
so the owners get paid but not the players...who doin the play not the owners? lol
lol, we're going through a depression and these guys are complaining about not gettin their kid a lambo or ferrari for their first kid?
lmfao, these guys are ridiculous
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lol, we're going through a depression and these guys are complaining about not gettin their kid a lambo or ferrari for their first kid?
lmfao, these guys are ridiculous
basically, but most already have the bread to buy their child two Lambo's; it's that if they don't have the matching Bently to go with it, they won't play lol.
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very good reason....lol
lol, we're going through a depression and these guys are complaining about not gettin their kid a lambo or ferrari for their first kid?
lmfao, these guys are ridiculous
basically, but most already have the bread to buy their child two Lambo's; it's that if they don't have the matching Bently to go with it, they won't play lol.
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very good reason....lol
lol, we're going through a depression and these guys are complaining about not gettin their kid a lambo or ferrari for their first kid?
lmfao, these guys are ridiculous
basically, but most already have the bread to buy their child two Lambo's; it's that if they don't have the matching Bently to go with it, they won't play lol.
lol that was pretty funny.
who remembers the south park episode? where master p couldnt get lil romeo his own island for christmas?
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there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
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there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
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why not cuz the next man will take your money instead
its a man's game...
there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
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why not cuz the next man will take your money instead
its a man's game...
there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
I know that man lol. I was only stating that it's foolish to say that college players play for the love of the game when a lot of them are playing for a pro contract
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why not cuz the next man will take your money instead
its a man's game...
there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
I know that man lol. I was only stating that it's foolish to say that college players play for the love of the game when a lot of them are playing for a pro contract
dude its foolish to assume every college football player is playing for a contract....
if your going to a top rank school then of course you playing for a contract but i got homies that play at local universities not to go to the NFL but just cus they love playing football and thats all they do
my homie is the quaterback for kingsville A&M and hes doing it cus he wants to be a football coach and teach youngsters
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there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
just look at LeBron; one of the first statements he made when he came into the league was, "i want to be the richest athlete of all time".
so how much heart & "love for the game" do you think he was playing with in high school when going into his senior year he was projected to be one of the top picks of the draft the next season? lol.
i would say it's about a 50/50 split; half the people who play sports truly have a deep love for the sport & the other half plays it because of the money.
half of high school players force themself into a sport they are good at for a college scholarship, half of college players (in top ranked schools) play because they get to go to the pros & half of the pros only play because they get millions upon millions.
it's the sad reality of sports, people who could give two shits less get to play on the grand stage.
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course maybe back then
the fresh a.i., jordan, kobe (50/50) and some others but its all bout the mule
why not cuz the next man will take your money instead
its a man's game...
there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
I know that man lol. I was only stating that it's foolish to say that college players play for the love of the game when a lot of them are playing for a pro contract
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why not cuz the next man will take your money instead
its a man's game...
there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
I know that man lol. I was only stating that it's foolish to say that college players play for the love of the game when a lot of them are playing for a pro contract
dude its foolish to assume every college football player is playing for a contract....
if your going to a top rank school then of course you playing for a contract but i got homies that play at local universities not to go to the NFL but just cus they love playing football and thats all they do
my homie is the quaterback for kingsville A&M and hes doing it cus he wants to be a football coach and teach youngsters
Yeah, that's why I said a lot of them are playing for pro contracts. There's obviously the lesser talents that only play in college because they love the game, and I think that's great, but you said college basketball is better than the NBA cause they play for the love of the game. I see where you're coming from but it's obvious that most people watch college sports to see the exciting athletes and not the walk ons who don't expect to go pro.
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no fuckin way this will happen
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why not cuz the next man will take your money instead
its a man's game...
there is too much money is sports anyways...
the reason college games are so much better then professional is cus those fuckers actually play for the love of the game while NBA/NFL are getting paid regardless of how good of a job they do
Give me a fucking break, they are all playing their asses off for a chance to be in the Pros.
thats what i meant moron... i mean college players are actually playing for something
Yeah but you can't really say they play for the love of the game if they're just playing to get a pro contract.
I know that man lol. I was only stating that it's foolish to say that college players play for the love of the game when a lot of them are playing for a pro contract
dude its foolish to assume every college football player is playing for a contract....
if your going to a top rank school then of course you playing for a contract but i got homies that play at local universities not to go to the NFL but just cus they love playing football and thats all they do
my homie is the quaterback for kingsville A&M and hes doing it cus he wants to be a football coach and teach youngsters
Yeah, that's why I said a lot of them are playing for pro contracts. There's obviously the lesser talents that only play in college because they love the game, and I think that's great, but you said college basketball is better than the NBA cause they play for the love of the game. I see where you're coming from but it's obvious that most people watch college sports to see the exciting athletes and not the walk ons who don't expect to go pro.
that's the down side to some college teams; you got guys who are a shoe-in's for the NBA & guys who are lucky to have even made the college squad; how does a John Wall figure look at one of the lesser players on Kentucky?
guys saying, "ugh, i wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for this stupid rule of one year in college".
other than that hurting some chemistry, the college game is more fun to watch then the NBA; i think it's because even though there are powerhouses, any top team can beat any other top team on any given night & as the years go by, the power changes hands; where the NBA is more of a "predictable" game; you know the "Final Four" of the NBA every year.
like this year, in the East it's either going to be Cavs, Celtics or Magic & the West will be Lakers & basically, no one else compares lol.
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what about denver? ^^^lol
but your right about the james comment...i remember a bit of him sayin that
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What happened last time with contracts back in the mid/late 90s (I think) when they played that shorter season of about 50 games (again. I was young then so I can't remember fully)? Did the players get their way then?