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Title: Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: infinite59 on November 30, 2002, 05:38:36 PM
Paid the Cost= 2/5.  Snoop is nothing without Dre.  All three Dre-less Snoop albums have been tremendous dissapointments.  What's really sad is the track that I play the most is "Pimp Slap".  He doesn't have one bangin track on this whole album!!!!  He doesn't have one "B Please" or "Lay Low" type track on this album.  Or one song that can compete with anything from Doggystyle.  (Ofcourse)  Or one song that really even deserves to be listened to.  Actually.  I change the score.  Now I give him a 1.  I just figured it out.  This album is even worse then 2pac.  And I didn't even preview it before I bought it.


2pac- Better Dayz- 2/5  Only 2pac album, posthumous or otherwise that I ever have not liked.  Until The End of Time ish's all over this record.  This whole album is wack.  I only like one song and it's a remix of an origional.  "My Block"  and the OG version from the Show soundtrack is better anyway.  This album is garbage.  Not one song on the whole cd is better than the worst song on Until the End of Time!!!!  Okay, that's exagerating, maybe a little.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: DPG4lyfe on November 30, 2002, 06:03:48 PM
i gotta say pac's waz worst cuzz i wasent feeling any of tha beats but i alwayz feelpacs lyriks
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: ImmortalOne on November 30, 2002, 06:08:50 PM
I still cant figure out how people can POSSIBLY think UTEOT is better than BD. Better Dayz SHITS all over UTEOT, in every way, shape, and form. This isnt even close. Like I said in another thread, either disc from BD is better than both discs from UTEOT put TOGETHER.

As for the Snoop album, I could care less about it. Every Snoop album since Doggystyle has been pretty mediocre anyway.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: S.G.V. on November 30, 2002, 06:30:04 PM
the snoop aint that bad...i mean it aint what it could be...but it is ten times better than these horribly remixed 7 + year old songs that tupac has...
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Pillow on November 30, 2002, 06:59:09 PM
tha pac album was tite, wtf u smokin lol. na thats jus my opinion.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Murrow on November 30, 2002, 07:28:37 PM
Your right, the Snoop album has no bangers...no songs that are 4.5/5 even.  Pac is better, but not as good as his last album.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: ImmortalOne on November 30, 2002, 07:45:13 PM
the snoop aint that bad...i mean it aint what it could be...but it is ten times better than these horribly remixed 7 + year old songs that tupac has...

you're such a clown.

Id rather listen to Pac's deep message then hear Snoop say "for shizzle my nizzle" for an hour.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Trauma-san on November 30, 2002, 07:49:16 PM
If I want a deep message, I'll go read Twelfth Night, LOL.

I think "The One and Only" is on the level of Snoop's Doggystyle stuff, for shizzle.  
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 30, 2002, 07:53:30 PM
Both are 3.5/5 IMO.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Vigilante on November 30, 2002, 08:17:19 PM
Paid the Cost= 2/5.  Snoop is nothing without Dre.  All three Dre-less Snoop albums have been tremendous dissapointments.  What's really sad is the track that I play the most is "Pimp Slap".  He doesn't have one bangin track on this whole album!!!!  He doesn't have one "B Please" or "Lay Low" type track on this album.  Or one song that can compete with anything from Doggystyle.  (Ofcourse)  Or one song that really even deserves to be listened to.  Actually.  I change the score.  Now I give him a 1.  I just figured it out.  This album is even worse then 2pac.  And I didn't even preview it before I bought it.


2pac- Better Dayz- 2/5  Only 2pac album, posthumous or otherwise that I ever have not liked.  Until The End of Time ish's all over this record.  This whole album is wack.  I only like one song and it's a remix of an origional.  "My Block"  and the OG version from the Show soundtrack is better anyway.  This album is garbage.  Not one song on the whole cd is better than the worst song on Until the End of Time!!!!  Okay, that's exagerating, maybe a little.

My exact feeling, everyone dickrydes snoop and pac and thats why they get top makrs for their album.....ur right there wasnt his original style, its this new wackass stlye - from the chuuch to the palace - garbage.....batman and robin - decent but overrated..... and pac's album is full of wackass producers, murder inc's 7 or cash money's jazze pha....2 thumbs down!!!! - I own both
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Quadruple OG on November 30, 2002, 08:21:26 PM
the Snoop album has no bangers...no songs that are 4.5/5 even.  Pac is better, but not as good as his last album.

agree with everything except for Better Dayz being worse than UTEOT.  as mentioned before, Better Dayz is MUCH better than UTEOT
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 30, 2002, 11:42:16 PM
Both are 3.5/5 IMO.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: BL7 on December 01, 2002, 01:19:33 AM
Guess I'm tha only one here who thinks PTCTBTB is just as good as "Tha Last Meal". I love this album man, it's really fresh. Can't speak on Pac's new album, but from what I've heard it sounded dope.


Peace
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Doggystylin on December 01, 2002, 01:23:11 AM
both are wack as hell but the snoop one dissapointed me worse.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Nosak on December 01, 2002, 02:25:17 AM
pac one, not cause i,m feeling snoop one more, i do , but cause this pac album is just not pac, i don't know i can't step and listen to a full track ... this is fucked up, and the snoop one ain't bad but some track i've heard longtime ago already played out a bit, so sometime i skip em, but they still tight
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Citizen-Y on December 01, 2002, 02:49:58 AM
both are wack as hell but the snoop one dissapointed me worse.

wow, that pic freak me out, i was loking at iwt for like 10 minutes thinkgin wtf is that moving, i had to get my brother in teh room tell me if was raelly moving.  thanks mand that was funny shit,.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: heyyou on December 01, 2002, 03:49:30 AM
I'm going with BL7 with this one. I don't own betta dayz yet (it's out tommorw so i'll pick it up). I've only heard half of the betta dayz album, so I can't really judge.
I can't really see how you can compare the two, because they both come from different angles. Snoop is about rhymes & flows, whereas 2Pac is about lyrics & emotions.

Anyway, snoop as far as I can remember only says for shizzle my nizzle once (Intro to from the chuuuch 2 da palace) on the whole album.
Snoop really impressed me with his improvements he has made with his flow and vocally delivery on the tracks he has made since quitting weed. The only problems I have is that the production overall isn't as good as the last meal, and there's too many tracks.
This album does have bangers imo, stop light, lollipop, beautiful, paper'd up, and the one and only which can compare to snoops past classics. I think the lyrics to the one and only should be on The Source's Quotable. OK, Snoop can't be compared lyrically to rakim, eminem, rass kass, gza etc, but for snoop, these lyrics are tight.

From the tracks I've heard  from the 2pac album, I'll say that UTEOT is better. This is because, although the tracks have been remixed and are not as good as the originals, I can still imagine 2Pac rapping over those beats, unlike most of the ones on betta dayz. However betta dayz does have some really hot tracks: mama's just a little girl, fortune & fame, changed man, my block remix.

These are just my opinions, but overall i'll say snoop's album is better.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: kalliweed on December 01, 2002, 04:42:00 AM
SNOOP ALBUM IZ BANGIN...I CANT JUDGE 2PAC NEW ALBUM CUZ IAM NOT A BIG FAN OF HIM
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: DPGC2003 on December 01, 2002, 05:34:33 AM
They're both dope...PTCTBTB is Snoop's best effort since leaving Death Row IMO...And I can count at least 5 bangers, Lollipop,From LB to Brick City,Boss Playa, The One And Only, Beautiful, and the rest of the songs are average to above average...4/5...Betta Dayz has probably the single of the year Thugz Mansion and the rest of the album bangs, probably a 4/5 also...If this album was made into a single disc and the songs were released in their original form we are probably talking about a 5/5 classic album similar to Makaveli...
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on December 01, 2002, 01:06:19 PM
I think Paid The Cost was betta but at the same time it was hella more dissappointing since I hadn't heard much of the promo tracks and i expected way more.

I didn't expect the Pac album to be good or shit so this wasn't dissappointing.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: S.G.V. on December 01, 2002, 04:32:54 PM


you're such a clown.

Id rather listen to Pac's deep message then hear Snoop say "for shizzle my nizzle" for an hour.
damn man...are u in love with me or something?...damn im starting to feel like tupac the way ur dick riding me...get off the dick already...stop being a fuckin hurt n shit
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: budsmokeronly on December 01, 2002, 04:47:28 PM
well snoops album is definately not as bad as many peeps on this board made it seem.  I have only had one listen to it and I think I like it better than the last meal.  I am giving 2pac my first listen right now.  goddamn the beats are fucking horrible.  Wow, what a difference a beat makes.  I like UTEOT, and the beats were not that bad, but the songs I heard so far on better dayz, the beats just outright ruin the song.

still ballin- awesome lyrics and flow, beat is horrendous.  Could have been an amazing song.

when we ride on our enemies- I luv the OG.  The beat on this one ruins the song worse than a guest appearance by mystical.  Holy shit this is a prime example of what a beat can do to a song.

changed man- good song, but again I don't care for the beat

fuck em all-good god, who was in charge of this album

never be peace- never a huge fan of the og version of this song, ok song

mama's just a little girl- decent song, could be much better if produced by johnny j

street fame- luv the og, this one is good, but og beat is way better

that is all I heard so far.  anyone who thinks beats ain't important needs to get their fucking ears checked.  Wow, what next from Death Row?  A book entitled Complete idiots guide to making dope artists sound like shit.  Fuck Suge Knight.  Fuck these money hungry bitches getting rich off pac.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: verbalassaulta on December 01, 2002, 06:50:38 PM
yes..some people agree that snoops is total garbage...there for a while all the dickriders were all pissed at me for hating on it...its really bad...to me there is only 3 songs that are 4/5..and everythig else is no good...pacs..well was better..but thats not saying much...and was better than uteot...but again...not saying much
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 01, 2002, 06:51:04 PM


you're such a clown.

Id rather listen to Pac's deep message then hear Snoop say "for shizzle my nizzle" for an hour.
damn man...are u in love with me or something?...damn im starting to feel like tupac the way ur dick riding me...get off the dick already...stop being a fuckin hurt n shit

You were on my dick long before I got on yours.........and besides, like you would say, "if I see stupidity, im gonna speak on it", though I certainly have much more justification than you do.

And for all of you who think UTEOT is better than Better Dayz: nope.

Better Dayz > UTEOT, easily
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 01, 2002, 07:17:34 PM
You were on my dick long before I got on yours

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I never thought I'd see someone say that.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on December 01, 2002, 08:16:28 PM
I will probably never play the new Snoop album again.  It's garbage and I'd rather listen to Dead Man Walkin.  As for the 2Pac, I think UTEOT was better, but the more I listen to Better Dayz, I like a few tracks on it.  I still hate the way they remixed it.
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: js83 on December 01, 2002, 08:18:15 PM
ok...i dunno what some of ya are trippin bout...but the new pac and snoop is both pretty tite...haters...
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: S.G.V. on December 01, 2002, 08:21:20 PM


You were on my dick long before I got on yours.........and besides, like you would say, "if I see stupidity, im gonna speak on it", though I certainly have much more justification than you do.

And for all of you who think UTEOT is better than Better Dayz: nope.

Better Dayz > UTEOT, easily
lol...man...u dont stop do u...i never even cared about u til u started speakin on me...ur just butt hurt thats all...at least u admit u ride mine and tupacs dick...one day ull realize how dumb u look by not accepting someones opinion as their own....
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Trauma-san on December 01, 2002, 09:53:38 PM

You were on my dick long before I got on yours

I guess that's ONE way to put it, LOL
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on December 02, 2002, 05:55:12 PM
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Posted by: KuRuPtion Posted on: December 01, 2002, 10:18:15 PM
ok...i dunno what some of ya are trippin bout...but the new pac and snoop is both pretty tite...haters...  
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Why am I a "hater" because my OPINION is that I don't like the new Snoop?
Title: Re:Which Album Was Worse? Snoop or Pac. They are both WEAK!
Post by: Jome on December 02, 2002, 07:33:02 PM

You were on my dick long before I got on yours

I guess that's ONE way to put it, LOL

Lmao :D