West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on March 02, 2010, 08:35:42 PM
-
just wondering what other ppl thought about the "last track" on makavlei
-
Can you elaborate a bit? I don't really understand what you are asking.
-
there was 1 slot left
these 3 songs were "close calls" along with Lost Souls and a few other songs
did Suge make the right choice by putting JUST LIKE DADDY on here over "Friendz" or "Niggaz Nature"?
-
yes, suge made the right call
-
did Suge make the right choice by putting JUST LIKE DADDY on here over "Friendz" or "Niggaz Nature"?
I think Friends would have been fine in place of either Toss It Up or Just like Daddy, though I'm perfectly content with the album as it is, which I happened to have been listening to straight through for the past thirty minutes or so... how ironic.
-
i voted friendz
-
I am one of the rare few that actually liked Just Lyke Daddy, and had no problems with it being on the album. I love the raw instrumental. Guitar on it is amazing, and I rarely get bored of that style of music. The song itself was a real genuine song about feelings, a hardcore love song not on the lovey dovey bubblegum pop-ish. I liked Friends, but I also preferred Just Lyke Daddy
-
I am one of the rare few that actually liked Just Lyke Daddy, and had no problems with it being on the album. I love the raw instrumental. Guitar on it is amazing, and I rarely get bored of that style of music. The song itself was a real genuine song about feelings, a hardcore love song not on the lovey dovey bubblegum pop-ish. I liked Friends, but I also preferred Just Lyke Daddy
i LOVE all 3 tracks
i'm glad just like daddy made the cut because Kadafi would have been left off otherwise
but i'd prefer NIGGAZ NATURE myself
-
Only Heard Just Like Daddy, somebody link me the others.
But Just Like daddy is my least favorite track from makaveli so I guess I'd replace it easily
-
Only Heard Just Like Daddy, somebody link me the others.
But Just Like daddy is my least favorite track from makaveli so I guess I'd replace it easily
get on AIM you bitch ass nigga
-
I've never really been a big fan of Toss It Up or wait for it..... Hail Mary
-
^ Wow... never heard that before about someone not liking Hail Mary.
-
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=231776.0
-
street life
watch ya mouth
-
^ But Street Life wasn't intended for the Makaveli album.
-
^ But Street Life wasn't intended for the Makaveli album.
You're correct. It was intended for Gridlock'd and/or Doggfather correct?
-
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=231776.0
go get aids
-
i'll do my best, if you stop making 2pac topics
-
^ But Street Life wasn't intended for the Makaveli album.
You're correct. It was intended for Gridlock'd and/or Doggfather correct?
In the Gridlock'd interview (where he mentions the "rose that grew from the concrete" metaphor, Pac said it was for the soundtrack, but I suppose after Pac died, Snoop and Suge were considering putting it on Tha Doggfather.
-
^ But Street Life wasn't intended for the Makaveli album.
You're correct. It was intended for Gridlock'd and/or Doggfather correct?
meant for doggumentary. the doggfather ep i believe
-
^ But Street Life wasn't intended for the Makaveli album.
You're correct. It was intended for Gridlock'd and/or Doggfather correct?
meant for doggumentary. the doggfather ep i believe
You sure? I saw it on Gridlock'd.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee52/LostSkanless/DSCN0177.jpg
-
snoop promoted it for doggfather
that's all i know
-
I'll probably catch heat for this, but I would have probably preferred it if they had kept all 3 of those songs off the album. And if they took off "Toss It Up" as well. Don't get me wrong, I like all of those songs. But they all seem out of place on there to me. The rest of Makaveli seems like a pretty dark album, and the inclusion of "Toss It Up" and "Just Like Daddy" seem almost too up-beat for that album. But I don't think "Niggaz Nature" or "Friends" would have been exactly the right fit either.
Overall, it's a pretty great album, anyway. So I guess if I had to pick one of those three, I'd opt to leave "Just Like Daddy" on there as it's probably a better fit than "Niggaz Nature" or "Friendz." But again, I'm not sure why any of those songs were originally picked, because to me, none of them seem to quite fit the tone of the rest of the album. Just my opinion.
-
I'll probably catch heat for this, but I would have probably preferred it if they had kept all 3 of those songs off the album. And if they took off "Toss It Up" as well. Don't get me wrong, I like all of those songs. But they all seem out of place on there to me. The rest of Makaveli seems like a pretty dark album, and the inclusion of "Toss It Up" and "Just Like Daddy" seem almost too up-beat for that album. But I don't think "Niggaz Nature" or "Friends" would have been exactly the right fit either.
Overall, it's a pretty great album, anyway. So I guess if I had to pick one of those three, I'd opt to leave "Just Like Daddy" on there as it's probably a better fit than "Niggaz Nature" or "Friendz." But again, I'm not sure why any of those songs were originally picked, because to me, none of them seem to quite fit the tone of the rest of the album. Just my opinion.
I think the main reason Toss It Up is on there is cause suge wanted the jab at dre
This thread made me listen to the album, which I haven't listened to its entirety in a long ass time. What a great album. Everything about it. Straight classic. Anyone in the industry who reads this forum, take notes from this album, mixing, production, rapping, everything.
Just like Daddy is actually one of my favorite songs on the album.
I think Who Do You Believe In would have fit pretty good on this album.
-
toss it up is mad dope
theres different versions of toss it up right?
a dr. dre version?
-
^ But Street Life wasn't intended for the Makaveli album.
You're correct. It was intended for Gridlock'd and/or Doggfather correct?
meant for doggumentary. the doggfather ep i believe
You sure? I saw it on Gridlock'd.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee52/LostSkanless/DSCN0177.jpg
Not just that, but Pac even mentioned it himself. Listen to this at around the ten-minute mark, where Pac is asked about the soundtrack, which was to include "Never Leave Me Alone" (Nate/Snoop), a song by Chelle, "Street Life" (Snoop/Pac):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYUhsR2gr-o&feature=related
-
Real quick just for reference... can someone post the OG Makavelli track listing? If it exists, that is.
I heard Never Call U Bitch Again was intended for Makavelli.... that's one of my top 5 favorite Pac songs. I would have put that on there.... but then again idk if it fits the mood.
Happy Home is another one of my top 5 pac songs but again, idk if it fits the mood.
I guess Watch Ya Mouth is just too similar content wise to Bomb First. And the OG beat from the phone rip doesn't sound dark enough to really fit the lyrics.
toss it up needs to be on there. it is the prototypical 90's party song. and the beat on it is MUCH better than the no diggity beat.
Life's so hard OG would have been PERFECT for the album. i mean perfect. but i dont believe it was recorded for Makavelli.
This is why iTunes exists. All you have to do is create what you consider to be a perfect 2pac album (as a playlist or album) and rock out to it. all of us already have these songs.... so it really just comes down to clicking and dragging, lol.
oh and Never Had a friend like me would have been perfect for the album. just throwin that in, lol.
-
you ask me: *^^^^funny i was just doing that too*
1. "Intro/Bomb First (My Second Reply)" (featuring E.D.I. Mean and Young Noble) – 4:56
2. "Hail Mary" (featuring Kastro, Young Noble, Yaki Kadafi, and Prince Ital Joe) – 5:09
w/"Immortal" on the CD-Single ;)
3. "Toss It Up" (featuring Danny Boy, K-Ci & JoJo, and Aaron Hall) – 5:06
i never really liked it but Pac would have to throw something on there for the club, i cant really think of anything else.
w/ Never Call U Bitch Again on the Single http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5RsmhYXlZ8
4. "To Live & Die in L.A." (featuring Val Young) – 4:33
w/"Untouchable (The Original Freestyle Version)" on the Single, cut at 1:35 and then have the instrumental fade it out til 1:41
5. "Blasphemy" (featuring Prince Ital Joe, and Jamala Lesane) – 4:38
6. "Life Of An Outlaw" (featuring Bo-Roc, Young Noble, E.D.I. Mean, Kastro, and Napoleon) – 4:55
7. "Krazy" (featuring Bad Azz) – 5:15
8. "Just Like Daddy" (featuring E.D.I. Mean, Yaki Kadafi, and Young Noble) – 5:07
9. "White Man'z World" (featuring Darryl "Big D" Harper) – 5:38
10. "There U Go" (featuring Tha Outlawz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ypT9VNwlw
11. "Hold Ya Head" (featuring Hurt M Badd) – 3:58
12. "Against All Odds" – 4:37
13. "Reincarnation" (featuring Tha Outlawz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovMSiboLfiM&feature=related
14. "Troublesome"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOWc8vBo4D4&feature=related *the released version
*edited just right
-
I guess my ultimate makavelli album would look like this:
Bomb First, Hail Mary, Toss it Up, Live and Die in LA (this sequence is perfect and should be untouched), but then I'd go into Never had a friend like me, lifes so hard, just like daddy, Happy Home, Never Call U bitch again, krazy, white man's world, tear drops and closed caskets, you can be touched, hold ya head, letter 2 my unborn child.
that's the best one i can think of off the top of my head. i believe letter 2 my unborn child was recorded for all eyez on me.... but let's face it, one can observe from the manic anxiety and urgency of the album that this is his "i'm about to die" album, so letter 2 my unborn would have been a great song to end it with... QD3 said that most of the still I rise songs were recorded in teh same sessions, and i can see some of them fitting here...
-
truthfully tho, Makaveli is fine just tha way it iz. Wonder what it woulda sounded like if my nigga would've never died
-
Real quick just for reference... can someone post the OG Makavelli track listing? If it exists, that is.
I heard Never Call U Bitch Again was intended for Makavelli.... that's one of my top 5 favorite Pac songs. I would have put that on there.... but then again idk if it fits the mood.
Happy Home is another one of my top 5 pac songs but again, idk if it fits the mood.
I guess Watch Ya Mouth is just too similar content wise to Bomb First. And the OG beat from the phone rip doesn't sound dark enough to really fit the lyrics.
toss it up needs to be on there. it is the prototypical 90's party song. and the beat on it is MUCH better than the no diggity beat.
Life's so hard OG would have been PERFECT for the album. i mean perfect. but i dont believe it was recorded for Makavelli.
This is why iTunes exists. All you have to do is create what you consider to be a perfect 2pac album (as a playlist or album) and rock out to it. all of us already have these songs.... so it really just comes down to clicking and dragging, lol.
oh and Never Had a friend like me would have been perfect for the album. just throwin that in, lol.
never had a friend like me was a Johnny J beat so it was not gonna be on makaveli thats 4 sure
-
truthfully tho, Makaveli is fine just tha way it iz. Wonder what it woulda sounded like if my nigga would've never died
in the 2pac Legacy book it includes a Pac hand written tracklist of Makaveli on page 52
this is what 2pac wanted it to be (well, at least it's the tracklist he took his own time to write out)
bomb first
hail mary
me and my girlfriend
to live and die in L.A.
against all odds
krazy
friendz
blasphemy
hold ya head
lost souls
white mans world
watch ya mouth
-
6. "Life Of An Outlaw" (featuring Bo-Roc, Young Noble, E.D.I. Mean, Kastro, and Napoleon) – 4:55
is this in the vaults? or did it leak? phone-rip maybe?
-
6. "Life Of An Outlaw" (featuring Bo-Roc, Young Noble, E.D.I. Mean, Kastro, and Napoleon) – 4:55
is this in the vaults? or did it leak? phone-rip maybe?
LOL.
-
6. "Life Of An Outlaw" (featuring Bo-Roc, Young Noble, E.D.I. Mean, Kastro, and Napoleon) – 4:55
is this in the vaults? or did it leak? phone-rip maybe?
you just lost any credibility in a 2pac discussion lol
-
i was thinkin it was another version of it - cus Bo Rocc's name was on it..
joe pesci
hey, youngster - not everyone is a caucasian 2pac-crazed teenager, using a dwarf actor-name as an alias, on a hiphop-forum..
-
i was thinkin it was another version of it - cus Bo Rocc's name was on it..
joe pesci
hey, youngster - not everyone is a caucasian 2pac-crazed teenager, using a dwarf actor-name as an alias, on a hiphop-forum..
says a guy with ICP in his title?
ok there buddy
did you ever hear the unreleased Pac track called Hail Mary?
-
uhhm.. by removin a few letters out a word, u create ur own "words"?
crackhead.. ::)
-
^ But Street Life wasn't intended for the Makaveli album.
You're correct. It was intended for Gridlock'd and/or Doggfather correct?
meant for doggumentary. the doggfather ep i believe
You sure? I saw it on Gridlock'd.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee52/LostSkanless/DSCN0177.jpg
yea thats from the floppy disk we got at the auction lol imma take a guess cuz i know that song has been brought up for gridlockd and doggumentary ep, that once it was scrapped for one of those projects it was gonna get thrown on the other. then for whatever reason it didnt make that project either. prolly had problems clearing somethin
-
:eh:
How many times has this been discussed?
-
:eh:
How many times has this been discussed?
go find some other thread to spam and bitch in
-
:eh:
How many times has this been discussed?
go find some other thread to spam and bitch in
Haha, look who's talking about spamming. Funny.
-
in the 2pac Legacy book it includes a Pac hand written tracklist of Makaveli on page 52
this is what 2pac wanted it to be (well, at least it's the tracklist he took his own time to write out)
bomb first
hail mary
me and my girlfriend
to live and die in L.A.
against all odds
krazy
friendz
blasphemy
hold ya head
lost souls
white mans world
watch ya mouth
that doesn't mean it was gonna be the FINAL one. Pac made EP's everyday lol
-
:eh:
How many times has this been discussed?
go find some other thread to spam and bitch in
Your combined shit-talking the last couple of days might earn you a couple of weeks vacation. :sshh:
-
1. Intro/Bomb First (My Second Reply)
2. This Aint Livin'
3. Ballad Of a Dead Soulja
4. To Live & Die in L.A
5. Blasphemy
6. Life Of An Outlaw
7. Krazy
8. Just Like Daddy
9. White Man'z World
10. Lost Souls
11. Hold Ya Head
12. Against All Odds
13. Reincarnation/Outro (fits with the death/crucified theme)
They should have added Toss It Up as a B-side to Krazy, and still released the video etc. and made an EP of it and added Hail Mary