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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Twentytwofifty on March 11, 2010, 01:37:06 PM
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When baseball commissioner Bud Selig named a 14-person "special committee for on-field matters" four months ago, he promised that all topics would be in play and "there are no sacred cows." The committee already has made good on Selig's promise by discussing a radical form of "floating" realignment in which teams would not be fixed to a division, but free to change divisions from year-to-year based on geography, payroll and their plans to contend or not.
The concept gained strong support among committee members, many of whom believe there are non-economic avenues that should be explored to improve competitive balance, similar to the NFL's former use of scheduling to help parity (in which weaker teams were awarded a weaker schedule the next season).
As with most issues of competitive balance, floating realignment involves finding a work-around to the Boston-New York axis of power in the AL East. In the 15 seasons during which the wild-card system has been in use, the Red Sox and Yankees have accounted for 38 percent of all AL postseason berths. The league has never conducted playoffs without the Red Sox or Yankees since that format began -- and in eight of those 15 years both teams made the playoffs. Since 2003 the Sox and Yankees have won at least 95 games 11 times in 14 combined seasons.
One example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.
Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.
Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.
"But if there is something that comes up we feel should be addressed during the season, we can make a recommendation then," said committee co-chair and Braves president John Schuerholz, referring to less complicated issues such as pace-of-game directives. "This is all about any ideas that help make the game better."
The floating realignment idea is nothing more than a concept at this point, part of the brainstorming sessions that have occurred in the committee's one in-person meeting and occasional conference calls. (Selig is pushing for another in-person meeting, such as at the All-Star Game. The committee includes current managers and executives, making in-person meetings logistically difficult.) The mechanics of the system are far from nailed down. But what is important is that the committee is making good on its mission to look at absolutely any on-field idea that could make the game better. Blowing up fixed divisions as we know them -- and even leagues -- certainly qualifies as radical thinking.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/03/09/floating-realignment/#ixzz0huDBKrEk
Don't know if I like this idea, but I would like the Jays to get the hell out of their division.
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I always wanted to see the top 4 teams in each league go to the playoffs, and not have teams face their own division the most.
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that's retarded lol.
teams just need to get good lol.
i hope the Redsox just leave the AL East & win the Central every year & we don't have to play them as much, only ensuring a playoff berth lol.
but, there has to be some rule about a certain number of teams going to the league; you mean to tell me that the Rays, Jays & Sox leave the East & the AL East will have two teams & the Central will have eight or nine (& that's if the West doesn't decide to go the Central).
seems like a retarded idea for borderline playoff teams to make it in.
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sounds like a big failure in the making.
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sounds like a big Elanoure in the making.
lmfao.
at least for you & me it won't be that bad; i can't see any teams going to the AL East or the NL West that would challenge us for the division.
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would the powerhouse teams be able to move into a weak division and dominate like nothing before? or would only the weak teams be allowed to move?
this all sounds a bit too much.......wouldnt it be easier to introduce a salary cap? that would certainly even some shit out.
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would the powerhouse teams be able to move into a weak division and dominate like nothing before? or would only the weak teams be allowed to move?
this all sounds a bit too much.......wouldnt it be easier to introduce a salary cap? that would certainly even some shit out.
anything is better than adding a salary cap. ;)
but who for example would dominate moving to another division, besides maybe the Redsox or Yankees going to the Central, which they would never do.
it seems like it's designed for weaker teams, like the Orioles, to get out of the way of the Yankees/Redsox reign; but there def. can't be a rule on a certain team moving, if one team can do it, anybody can do it.
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What a shitty idea.
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that's retarded lol.
teams just need to get good lol.
i hope the Redsox just leave the AL East & win the Central every year & we don't have to play them as much, only ensuring a playoff berth lol.
What type of Baseball fan are you ? You're not even a Yanks fan because no real Yanks fan would say that You want to end one of the greatest if not the greatest rivalry in North American sports. Jesus fucking christ you're a fucking joke. Really you shouldn't be allowed to watch Baseball.
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I don't like this idea here but the current system sure isn't fair to every team.
The Pirates have to have better records than 5 other teams to win their division and the Rangers only have to be better than 3. And it's even harder for the NL Central team to win the wild card too since the National League has two more teams than the A.L.
Don't know if there is a perfect system but this sure isn't it.
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that's retarded lol.
teams just need to get good lol.
i hope the Redsox just leave the AL East & win the Central every year & we don't have to play them as much, only ensuring a playoff berth lol.
What type of Baseball fan are you ? You're not even a Yanks fan because no real Yanks fan would say that You want to end one of the greatest if not the greatest rivalry in North American sports. Jesus fucking christ you're a fucking joke. Really you shouldn't be allowed to watch Baseball.
it's actually the greatest rivalry in sports; worldwide.
you make it seem like they would NEVER play each other; they would, Mr. Big-Time Baseball Genius; just not 18 times a year.
& i only say it because it would be an easier road to the playoffs, i don't know what team you root for, but it's probably a team that doesn't see the post-season, so you just wouldn't get it.
so in the end, we're likely to meet in the ALCS anyway, because we're two of the best teams in baseball & play each other less in the regular season.
less games = better rivalry; imagine the Lakers & Celtics played 10 games against each other in the regular season, how would that look? it would just take away from the rivalry and intensity of thw two (?) games they play.
you have some EXCELLENT logic, pal; please, just keep preaching. ::)
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that's retarded lol.
teams just need to get good lol.
i hope the Redsox just leave the AL East & win the Central every year & we don't have to play them as much, only ensuring a playoff berth lol.
What type of Baseball fan are you ? You're not even a Yanks fan because no real Yanks fan would say that You want to end one of the greatest if not the greatest rivalry in North American sports. Jesus fucking christ you're a fucking joke. Really you shouldn't be allowed to watch Baseball.
it's actually the greatest rivalry in sports; worldwide.
you make it seem like they would NEVER play each other; they would, Mr. Big-Time Baseball Genius; just not 18 times a year.
& i only say it because it would be an easier road to the playoffs, i don't know what team you root for, but it's probably a team that doesn't see the post-season, so you just wouldn't get it.
so in the end, we're likely to meet in the ALCS anyway, because we're two of the best teams in baseball & play each other less in the regular season.
less games = better rivalry; imagine the Lakers & Celtics played 10 games against each other in the regular season, how would that look? it would just take away from the rivalry and intensity of thw two (?) games they play.
you have some EXCELLENT logic, pal; please, just keep preaching. ::)
The fact that they have been competing for the League Championship up until 1969 and from there on the division championship for the better part of a 100 years is what makes the rivalry so great you fucking moron. And you act like they would meet in the playoffs every year. Since both teams have been dominate in the mid 90's they have met in the playoffs three fucking times. You would hurt one of the greatest rivalries in sports. But you want that so you can have an easier road to the playoffs. What kind of fucking fan are you ? Jesus if you said this shit to other Yankee fans 9/10 of them would laugh in your damn face for being a fucking moron and pussy.
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^actually i'm sure they wouldn't mind.
i mean, i guess the most logical thing to do WOULD be to let you speak for 90% of the Yankees fanbase; you CLEARLY know what MILLIONS of people think. :D
this MUST be Tommy; only you would ride my cock this hard because i want to win & you just need the excitment for the disappointment the Metropolitains provide for you lmfao.
i'll politely ask you to remove my scrotum from your mouth area & go eat some New Park Pizza.
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^actually i'm sure they wouldn't mind.
i mean, i guess the most logical thing to do WOULD be to let you speak for 90% of the Yankees fanbase; you CLEARLY know what MILLIONS of people think. :D
this MUST be Tommy; only you would ride my cock this hard because i want to win & you just need the excitment for the disappointment the Metropolitains provide for you lmfao.
i'll politely ask you to remove my scrotum from your mouth area & go eat some New Park Pizza.
You make no sense. And no one is riding your dick, you're just being called out for being a fucking moron. How about this Cham you go on a Yankee message board and make your retarded little point and lets see if you get laughed at. Go ahead and do that cham. If you prove me wrong I'll change my name to Tom loves the Yankees and make my profile pro Yankee for the entire season. But if you make your retarded little point you also have to mention how the rivalry was built on the division race and how they only have met in the playoffs 3 times instead of your usual bullshit blanket statements. Because I loved how you completely ignore the point of what makes the rivalry so great and how they have only met 3 times in the playoffs since the inception of the wild card.
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^actually i'm sure they wouldn't mind.
i mean, i guess the most logical thing to do WOULD be to let you speak for 90% of the Yankees fanbase; you CLEARLY know what MILLIONS of people think. :D
this MUST be Tommy; only you would ride my cock this hard because i want to win & you just need the excitment for the disappointment the Metropolitains provide for you lmfao.
i'll politely ask you to remove my scrotum from your mouth area & go eat some New Park Pizza.
You make no sense. And no one is riding your dick, you're just being called out for being a fucking moron. How about this Cham you go on a Yankee message board and make your retarded little point and lets see if you get laughed at. Go ahead and do that cham. If you prove me wrong I'll change my name to Tom loves the Yankees and make my profile pro Yankee for the entire season. But if you make your retarded little point you also have to mention how the rivalry was built on the division race and how they only have met in the playoffs 3 times instead of your usual bullshit blanket statements. Because I loved how you completely ignore the point of what makes the rivalry so great and how they have only met 3 times in the playoffs since the inception of the wild card.
1. if a Yankees message board is filled with baseball GENIUSES, like yourself, i wouldn't bother wasting my time.
2. unless you're paid to give out professional opinions, i could give a FLLLLUCK less on what you have to say; let alone a biased one lmfao.
3. i'm clearly trying to win, i don't know what they teach you over at Citi, but i play/watch for the win; if that would ruin a rivalry you are not even part of, i apoligize, i suppose, but again for almost a decade they both have made the playoffs & came close to making the ALCS to see each other.
& the two times they did meet in '03 & '04, it was two of the best series ever, even though i was at the EXTREME embaressement end of one.
when are you going to get it, champ? everything i've ever said has been rejected by you on the spot.
MAYBE i've said some outlandish, "not going by the good book" things, but EVERYTHING i've said? i made the point before, i could literally say "Barack Obama is the President of the United States of America & you'd find something to jump on.
hop off the shaft. ;)
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^actually i'm sure they wouldn't mind.
i mean, i guess the most logical thing to do WOULD be to let you speak for 90% of the Yankees fanbase; you CLEARLY know what MILLIONS of people think. :D
this MUST be Tommy; only you would ride my cock this hard because i want to win & you just need the excitment for the disappointment the Metropolitains provide for you lmfao.
i'll politely ask you to remove my scrotum from your mouth area & go eat some New Park Pizza.
You make no sense. And no one is riding your dick, you're just being called out for being a fucking moron. How about this Cham you go on a Yankee message board and make your retarded little point and lets see if you get laughed at. Go ahead and do that cham. If you prove me wrong I'll change my name to Tom loves the Yankees and make my profile pro Yankee for the entire season. But if you make your retarded little point you also have to mention how the rivalry was built on the division race and how they only have met in the playoffs 3 times instead of your usual bullshit blanket statements. Because I loved how you completely ignore the point of what makes the rivalry so great and how they have only met 3 times in the playoffs since the inception of the wild card.
1. if a Yankees message board is filled with baseball GENIUSES, like yourself, i wouldn't bother wasting my time.
2. unless you're paid to give out professional opinions, i could give a FLLLLUCK less on what you have to say; let alone a biased one lmfao.
3. i'm clearly trying to win, i don't know what they teach you over at Citi, but i play/watch for the win; if that would ruin a rivalry you are not even part of, i apoligize, i suppose, but again for almost a decade they both have made the playoffs & came close to making the ALCS to see each other.
& the two times they did meet in '03 & '04, it was two of the best series ever, even though i was at the EXTREME embaressement end of one.
when are you going to get it, champ? everything i've ever said has been rejected by you on the spot.
MAYBE i've said some outlandish, "not going by the good book" things, but EVERYTHING i've said? i made the point before, i could literally say "Barack Obama is the President of the United States of America & you'd find something to jump on.
hop off the shaft. ;)
I disagree with everything you say because you're a fucking moron. It's nice to see you shook to take me up on my offer because you even know other Yanks fans would laugh in your face. And it's not because they are "Baseball Geniuses" it's because they love the game, competition, and rivalry. You make blanket statements with no facts to back it up and when you have no argument it's "Oh you're on my dick" or " But bu bu ESPN said". And again you have to bring up the fact I root for a joke of franchise which has nothing to do with anything because you have no argument. And you say the Yanks and Sox were close to meeting in playoffs. Close only counts with horse shoes and hand grenades. I have proven you wrong time and time again, just take ya L and forget you ever posted in this thread.
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A rivalry that would see each other less but often would be special. Kinda weird the way I worded it, but basically a force rivalry is corny but one that happens out of just skill on both sides is a special one.
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i dunno, i think tampering with something like this could really fuck shit up, it would have to be meticulously calculated and still i think teams would bitch that they are getting screwed, but i know as a fact they would never take yanks and boston out of the same division,...
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^actually i'm sure they wouldn't mind.
i mean, i guess the most logical thing to do WOULD be to let you speak for 90% of the Yankees fanbase; you CLEARLY know what MILLIONS of people think. :D
this MUST be Tommy; only you would ride my cock this hard because i want to win & you just need the excitment for the disappointment the Metropolitains provide for you lmfao.
i'll politely ask you to remove my scrotum from your mouth area & go eat some New Park Pizza.
You make no sense. And no one is riding your dick, you're just being called out for being a fucking moron. How about this Cham you go on a Yankee message board and make your retarded little point and lets see if you get laughed at. Go ahead and do that cham. If you prove me wrong I'll change my name to Tom loves the Yankees and make my profile pro Yankee for the entire season. But if you make your retarded little point you also have to mention how the rivalry was built on the division race and how they only have met in the playoffs 3 times instead of your usual bullshit blanket statements. Because I loved how you completely ignore the point of what makes the rivalry so great and how they have only met 3 times in the playoffs since the inception of the wild card.
1. if a Yankees message board is filled with baseball GENIUSES, like yourself, i wouldn't bother wasting my time.
2. unless you're paid to give out professional opinions, i could give a FLLLLUCK less on what you have to say; let alone a biased one lmfao.
3. i'm clearly trying to win, i don't know what they teach you over at Citi, but i play/watch for the win; if that would ruin a rivalry you are not even part of, i apoligize, i suppose, but again for almost a decade they both have made the playoffs & came close to making the ALCS to see each other.
& the two times they did meet in '03 & '04, it was two of the best series ever, even though i was at the EXTREME embaressement end of one.
when are you going to get it, champ? everything i've ever said has been rejected by you on the spot.
MAYBE i've said some outlandish, "not going by the good book" things, but EVERYTHING i've said? i made the point before, i could literally say "Barack Obama is the President of the United States of America & you'd find something to jump on.
hop off the shaft. ;)
I disagree with everything you say because you're a fucking moron. It's nice to see you shook to take me up on my offer because you even know other Yanks fans would laugh in your face. And it's not because they are "Baseball Geniuses" it's because they love the game, competition, and rivalry. You make blanket statements with no facts to back it up and when you have no argument it's "Oh you're on my dick" or " But bu bu ESPN said". And again you have to bring up the fact I root for a joke of franchise which has nothing to do with anything because you have no argument. And you say the Yanks and Sox were close to meeting in playoffs. Close only counts with horse shoes and hand grenades. I have proven you wrong time and time again, just take ya L and forget you ever posted in this thread.
LOLOLOL, you must think you're Jesus or something if you can prove my opinion "wrong". :laugh:
you're a joke who stays grasping the nuts & i see people like you all over the place; NIK for example, sadly enough that's the perfect comparison for you.
NIK to the Lakers is you to Baseball; which is what i'm SURE i would run into at a Yankees forum; Mr. IKnowEverything & i'm ALWAYS right & you're ALWAYS wrong, end of discussion; just a bunch of people who think their voices should be heard, it's somewhat pathetic.
that's so childish.
& lol @ "no argument", i'm not making an arugment, i'm stating an opinion you say is wrong. :laugh:
that's the ultimate joke here lol.
i dunno, i think tampering with something like this could really fuck shit up, it would have to be meticulously calculated and still i think teams would bitch that they are getting screwed, but i know as a fact they would never take yanks and boston out of the same division,...
of course they wouldn't, but if they did, it wouldn't bother me for one.
not as much as it would bother Tommy apparently lmfao.
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The thing is cham I have discissed Baseball with others I have a differing opinion with. They can back up there argument/opinion (which in this case is basically the same thing but went over your head like usual). No wonder you don't want to go to the Yanks board to get laughed. They can back up there opinion while you can't for your blanket statements. Come money, which each statement you look more and more foolish, ya arms are too short to box with God.
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^well that's phenominal for you and you're SUPER cool internet Baseball buddies.
but me? no, i don't have an argument; it's just what i think & telling me they would "laugh" at me for not minding the Redsox are in another division, is fine with. for one being that you're just saying they would laugh, which would imply that you're a frequent Yankee board visitor, which wouldn't surprise me at all, because you just have that cool of a life. & two, it's still my opinion, just because my fellow fans don't feel the same way, isn't going to make me bandwagon with their opinion, but again, it wouldn't surprise me that you expect people to just follow the crowd either lmfao.
if you think every fan has to have the same opinion on every topic, i feel sorry for you.
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^well that's phenominal for you and you're SUPER cool internet Baseball buddies.
but me? no, i don't have an argument; it's just what i think & telling me they would "laugh" at me for not minding the Redsox are in another division, is fine with. for one being that you're just saying they would laugh, which would imply that you're a frequent Yankee board visitor, which wouldn't surprise me at all, because you just have that cool of a life. & two, it's still my opinion, just because my fellow fans don't feel the same way, isn't going to make me bandwagon with their opinion, but again, it wouldn't surprise me that you expect people to just follow the crowd either lmfao.
if you think every fan has to have the same opinion on every topic, i feel sorry for you.
Where did I say others gotta have the same opinion as me ? Stop making stuff up cham reaching for the stars ass nigga. And I don't visit Yankee boards, I see what they say and discuss Baseball along with them on general baseball boards. And what's with the whole sarcasm that I'm some sought of loser because I love watching and discissing Baseball ? Is that really where you're at cham, that's all you got. So I'm super cool because I discuss Baseball on messages boards during the work. Or because I enjoy reading books about Baseball history. Really cham really. Like I said ya arms are too short to box with God.
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^well what i'm getting out of this is i gave my opinion & you not only told me my opinion was wrong, but other fans wouldn't agree with me.
kind of sounds like if my opinion doesn't match with your buddies, i'm not a fan lol.
& didn't you see what i said? i said you were totally cool for all that. ;)
for the record though, you don't "discuss" anything; you just say what you say, set it in stone, claim that what you say is right & just argue it to the death; my buddy Skip Bayless would laugh your ass back to Ozone Park lmfao.
& before you attempt to comeback with some sly comment on that, think about it, you're claiming people you talk to, which requires listening, say things about topics; there is nothing different from, again, listening to Skip Bayless (or anybody from ESPN, i just love me some Bayless) & listening to his opinion.
in the end, it's all the same, no? you just believe that your little crew of internet bloggers know more; which is...super cool. 8)
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LOL@ "Teams that plan to not contend"
And LOL@ who said "teams just need to get good"
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^well what i'm getting out of this is i gave my opinion & you not only told me my opinion was wrong, but other fans wouldn't agree with me.
kind of sounds like if my opinion doesn't match with your buddies, i'm not a fan lol.
& didn't you see what i said? i said you were totally cool for all that. ;)
for the record though, you don't "discuss" anything; you just say what you say, set it in stone, claim that what you say is right & just argue it to the death; my buddy Skip Bayless would laugh your ass back to Ozone Park lmfao.
& before you attempt to comeback with some sly comment on that, think about it, you're claiming people you talk to, which requires listening, say things about topics; there is nothing different from, again, listening to Skip Bayless (or anybody from ESPN, i just love me some Bayless) & listening to his opinion.
in the end, it's all the same, no? you just believe that your little crew of internet bloggers know more; which is...super cool. 8)
So backing up what I say with actual facts isn't discussing it ? I get on your case because you make blanket statements without any facts. You go by what someone else says and take it as gospel. You rarely if ever have your own opinion. And where did I mention internet bloggers ? But people on say fangraphs.com without a doubt no more than anyone on ESPN. The only difference is the guys on ESPN have a personality good for television. Look at Tony Kornheiser, half the time he admits he has no idea but people still watch because he is entertaining.
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^well i'm no genius here or anything, just putting 2 & 2 together, but did you not just say "you never have an opinion of your own".
yet you're telling me no one on the planet agrees with my opinion on the Redsox leaving...
also, i haven't seen this article yet of Strasburg predicted to be a future 300 game winner...
i don't know, that's two opinions on two topics you jumped on, almost automatically & both seem to be original ideas; i see no ESPN influence.
my whole point on ESPN was you listening to people on a website & me listening to ESPN is no different, i'm just listening to ex-players, some current players & some analysts that have full access to every team in the league & you listen to Joe-Schmo who wants to be heard on the internet lol.
& if my statements opinions are so "blah", you could easily just pay no mind to it; but nope, let's have Cham explain why he feels certain ways on things.
why wouldn't you care if the Redsox left the division? "because i want to win". not good enough.
why do you think Strasburg will be a future HOFer? "because he's fucking ill & he's awesome to watch & i'm rooting for him". not good enough Cham, you need more facts to backup opinion.
people are idiots lmfao.
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SMH... jesus you're a moron. You have one opinion that shoes you're a pussy punk bitch because you rather a cake walk than earning it. Any other fan from the hardcore nerds to the casual fan wants there team to win and win against the best. You want it to be a cakewalk. What kinda pussy shit is that ? You make this Strasberg prediction like its earth shattering. Go look it up on google, all the articles on how he was destined to be the next great pitcher. Which if he is destined to be the next great pitcher basically emcompasses your Hof prediction. You keep bring up espn talking points time and time again yet time and time again myself and others have proven them to know no more than the casual fan. Like the Mets last year. I said they weren't a good team but Espn said they would win the NL. How did that work out ? I've seen you do it all the time, people actually have an argument/opinion (anyone with an IQ over 85 would know in this context argument/opinion are one in the same, says a lot about your lack of smarts.) And support with facts and you come back with bu bu bu espn said. And you leave your blanket statement alone.
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The way baseball is run is a joke.
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SMH... jesus you're a moron. You have one opinion that shoes you're a pussy punk bitch because you rather a cake walk than earning it. Any other fan from the hardcore nerds to the casual fan wants there team to win and win against the best. You want it to be a cakewalk. What kinda pussy shit is that ? You make this Strasberg prediction like its earth shattering. Go look it up on google, all the articles on how he was destined to be the next great pitcher. Which if he is destined to be the next great pitcher basically emcompasses your Hof prediction. You keep bring up espn talking points time and time again yet time and time again myself and others have proven them to know no more than the casual fan. Like the Mets last year. I said they weren't a good team but Espn said they would win the NL. How did that work out ? I've seen you do it all the time, people actually have an argument/opinion (anyone with an IQ over 85 would know in this context argument/opinion are one in the same, says a lot about your lack of smarts.) And support with facts and you come back with bu bu bu espn said. And you leave your blanket statement alone.
again, you're telling me i'm wrong for wanting to win; you can call me a pussy, but calling people pussy on the internet IS pussy, so where does that leave you? lmfao.
& no, i didn't make the Strasburg prediction so life altering, you did lmfao; all you had to do was ignore it, but you consistantly pushed it & pushed it. "oh, i discuss Baseball with legends of the online world & i google these documents daily, so i'm up to date, you fucking moron, how stupid do you sound?".
i've admitted time & time again that you know more about the MLB than i do, but it's like you want something more than that lmfao.
it's simple, if i say things that are "not on your level", you just don't have to say anything; clearly you can't discuss Baseball here since it's up to par with the great Tom.