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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Chamillitary Click on March 14, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
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http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/14/tomlinson-agrees-to-two-year-deal-with-jets/
The New York Jets reached an agreement with free-agent RB LaDainian Tomlinson Sunday on a two-year contract, according to a league source.
Tomlinson met with both the Minnesota Vikings and Jets this week before returning to San Diego on Saturday to mull over his options.
Tomlinson is expected to serve as a compliment to second-year RB Shonn Greene in New York. The Jets lost their own free agent, RB Thomas Jones, who last week signed a two-year deal with the Kansas City Chiefs.
considering how many touches Shonn Greene got last year behind Jones, LT will have plenty of chances to prove himself. 8)
i hope LT has some solid carries left in him! 8)
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Ida kept Thomas Jones at this point...
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Ida kept Thomas Jones at this point...
our run attack was def. better with Jones, but add LT & the return of Leon & it's allll gravy.
i'm just happy we got someone & hopefully LT is completely finished.
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Ida kept Thomas Jones at this point...
our run attack was def. better with Jones, but add LT & the return of Leon & it's allll gravy.
i'm just happy we got someone & hopefully LT is completely finished.
yeah. The one thing LT gives u that Jones didnt...is a decent receiving option out of the backfield for Sanchez. But Jones is a much more punishing back for defenses to have to tackle all game. Its a good pickup for the Jets tho...given the fact that Jones isnt there anymore.
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Ida kept Thomas Jones at this point...
Same, but this is a solid pick up as long as Washington can stay healthy.
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Actually,jones was in no way a punsihing back.Seems odd considering the guy is a physical specimen but its true.Having watched almost every jets game for the last almost ten years I can say Jones was not that great.His numbers are extremely inflated because of the jets o line,which could be the best line in football.Often he would run to where hed think he would get tackled and just dive to the spot.It was so frustrating to watch.Then one out of every 15 carries or so hed break a larger run thanks to the great line of the jets.But between those all his runs were 2-3 yards were as someone like greene,an actual punishing back would get 5-6.This was evidenced in the colts game in the afc championship,where greene looked poised to have a big game until his injury,when jones came in he was completely ineffective.
If jones had returned he would have to accept that he would no longer be the number one.The problem with that is jones doesnt want that,hes stated before he needs at least 25 carries a game.And with the emergence of greene thats not going to happen.
As far as lt is concerned,I like the move.he knows what his role is going to be on the team,a 3rd down back who catches out of the backfield.Imagine 3rd down when the jets line up and have leon washington and tomlinson coming out of the backfield,tell me that doesnt create some match up problems for teams defenses.
Its obvious lt isnt the same back he was but at the same time I think he will have a good year for the jets.The chargers philosphy completely changed the last two seasons,they went from having tomlinson and the running game being their focus to rivers and the passing game.Marty schottenheimer ran a great run structure and the o line was solid.But the last two seasons their o line has been mediocre at best,often times youd see lt get tackled in the backfield.I think behind the jets dominant o line hes going to do well and I wouldnt be surprised if jones has a bad year with teh chiefs.
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Ida kept Thomas Jones at this point...
Same, but this is a solid pick up as long as Washington can stay healthy.
Well he doesnt have a history of injury problems,it was just one of those freak in juries that can happen to anyone at anytime.Broken bones heal better then tendons and ligaments so I dont see it being a problem.But,anything can happen to any player on any given play.
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This works well for both parties because while he'll come in as a the second runner there's room for him to prove himself and become the starter. That means, unless he's really washed up, that LT will be trying the like the devil out there. The worst case scenario is you have LT when Greene and Washington are tired and that's amazing.
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And lt is not jones replacement as many people seem to think.Greene is jones replacement,lt is just a 3rd back for insurance.
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but is LT still good and some say hes hof but do you really think he can actually make playing football sundays in nfl like he has been doing?
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but is LT still good and some say hes hof but do you really think he can actually make playing football sundays in nfl like he has been doing?
How can you deny the value of LT as a third back? You're talking crazy. There isn't a team in the history of the league that has/had a 3rd string RB better than LT is right now.
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it's hard to call any of the three first, second or third strings.
i think they'll all get somewhat equal distribution of the ball, counting screens & such.
Shonn Greene will likely take the most carries but it's not about stats, it's about the running back package as a whole putting up the numbers.
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shallow that aint me sayin....lol
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It'll be interesting to see how LT does, how good is the Jets O Line in comparison to San Diego's?
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jets>>>>>>
It'll be interesting to see how LT does, how good is the Jets O Line in comparison to San Diego's?
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shallow that aint me sayin....lol
My bad.
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yeah jus a gang banger on here...lol all good tho
shallow that aint me sayin....lol
My bad.
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you think LT coming to the Jets instead of the Vikings is a hint on Farve's mind?
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people cant wait on brett cham...hes in his own life and he does what he does...wastes time etc...
but
whats left of the two
brett>>>lt
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^i'm just sayin', maybe it was hinted that Brett isn't coming back next year.
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nah IMO theres a 75% chance hes comin back...but again what brett can do is more than what lt can do at this point
brett is more important than lt....i doubt lt will duplicate what he once did....but brett can possibly take it to where he did this past season again
are you sayin lt goin there, depended on if brett would be there?
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^i'm saying, LT wouldn't want to go with the Vikings without Brett (there only chance of winning).
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yeah but....someone gave him the inside as to whether brett is comin back? lol
member how long it took him last year?
^i'm saying, LT wouldn't want to go with the Vikings without Brett (there only chance of winning).
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shonn greene is gonna own the nfl
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yeah but....someone gave him the inside as to whether brett is comin back? lol
member how long it took him last year?
^i'm saying, LT wouldn't want to go with the Vikings without Brett (there only chance of winning).
I think LT thinks he's got as strong a shot at an SB with the Jets as he does on even a Favre run Vikings. I think the Jets could beat the Vikes in the SB with the rosters the way they are now.
On a side note (because I have to bring him up at least once in each thread); if I were Peyton Manning I'd say to the Colts no contract unless we win the SB this year, because if we lose again the same way we've lost every year I'm going to Minnesota for the '11 season. So beast up the team and make us winners.
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^lol.
LT also said the offensive line is monster & he would get more action in New York, on and off the field.
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yeah but....someone gave him the inside as to whether brett is comin back? lol
member how long it took him last year?
^i'm saying, LT wouldn't want to go with the Vikings without Brett (there only chance of winning).
I think LT thinks he's got as strong a shot at an SB with the Jets as he does on even a Favre run Vikings. I think the Jets could beat the Vikes in the SB with the rosters the way they are now.
On a side note (because I have to bring him up at least once in each thread); if I were Peyton Manning I'd say to the Colts no contract unless we win the SB this year, because if we lose again the same way we've lost every year I'm going to Minnesota for the '11 season. So beast up the team and make us winners.
The Colts went all the way to the Super Bowl. What more can Peyton Manning demand from his team?
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yeah but....someone gave him the inside as to whether brett is comin back? lol
member how long it took him last year?
^i'm saying, LT wouldn't want to go with the Vikings without Brett (there only chance of winning).
I think LT thinks he's got as strong a shot at an SB with the Jets as he does on even a Favre run Vikings. I think the Jets could beat the Vikes in the SB with the rosters the way they are now.
On a side note (because I have to bring him up at least once in each thread); if I were Peyton Manning I'd say to the Colts no contract unless we win the SB this year, because if we lose again the same way we've lost every year I'm going to Minnesota for the '11 season. So beast up the team and make us winners.
The Colts went all the way to the Super Bowl. What more can Peyton Manning demand from his team?
to get Tracey Porter, the second best corner in Football...history. ;D
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yeah but....someone gave him the inside as to whether brett is comin back? lol
member how long it took him last year?
^i'm saying, LT wouldn't want to go with the Vikings without Brett (there only chance of winning).
I think LT thinks he's got as strong a shot at an SB with the Jets as he does on even a Favre run Vikings. I think the Jets could beat the Vikes in the SB with the rosters the way they are now.
On a side note (because I have to bring him up at least once in each thread); if I were Peyton Manning I'd say to the Colts no contract unless we win the SB this year, because if we lose again the same way we've lost every year I'm going to Minnesota for the '11 season. So beast up the team and make us winners.
The Colts went all the way to the Super Bowl. What more can Peyton Manning demand from his team?
What more? A defense that is coached to blitz, jump routes, and apply pressure. A special teams unit that knows how to cover an onside kick. And a run game that can pound the ball.
Someone tell me that if the 09 Jets had Manning they would have lost the Superbowl. I dare you to find a reason they would not have won it all. Peyton needs a team that isn't built around a QB so all the pressure isn't on him to play perfect, or hope the other team makes a ton of mistakes.
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what teams arent build around a qg? lol
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what teams arent build around a qg? lol
The Colts and that's it. They draft to two things compliment the pass game and pass rush. The entire philosophy the Colts, since Peyton got there has been score early and make the opponent pass to come from behind. They put no effort into a complicated pass D, run D, power run, blocking scheme, etc. No other team in the league relies as much on QB play by their star. Not New England who lose brady and go 11-5. Not NO who needed Greg Williams defense to get over the hump. Not Pitt who is a D first team. Not the Giants who were a D first run first team, not Tampa, and not Baltimore.
Every team wants a franchise QB. bu the Colts are the only team that are built to expect that franchise QB play at an MVP level the whole way, and that doesn't happen. The Colts were not prepared for the Saints and that's why they lost. They play with no fire or killer instinct. They think they can just peacefully walk into a Superbowl. If not for Grossman they would have lost that SB, and if not for countless second half mistakes by NE they wouldn't even have made the SB.
Manning on Minnesota could very well 4-peat.
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If you enough talent to get to the Super Bowl, you have the talent to win it. Just ask the Giants.
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If you enough talent to get to the Super Bowl, you have the talent to win it. Just ask the Giants.
yeah, if you could theoretically go 18-0, what is the difference between those first 18 games & the Super Bowl?
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If you enough talent to get to the Super Bowl, you have the talent to win it. Just ask the Giants.
The Colts have the talent, they just don't use it. They were beating up the Saints in the first quarter playing man to man. Then for reasons unknown they diverted back to cover 2 and stuck with it after multiple failed attempts at stopping the Saints. I've said it before the '09 Colts coached by Cowher, Parcells, or Gruden would have 19-0 easy.
But Dungy's laxed approach was brought into full form on Superbowl Sunday and we saw what it's made of. Like I said; Dungy style football is only effective in big games when the other team makes very bad mistakes. I don't have any issue with anyone on the Colts roster, except that they've never drafted a first round 6'5 WR or a bruiser 230 lbs RB. It's a fast defense that is begging to make plays but the Polian/Dungy and now Caldwell philosophy is going to kill them every year.
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yeah but thats crazy did anyone see lil mannin comin thru to win a superbowl?
and make it no mistake about it...he won it wit his team, cuz thats a team effort wit their club
key players
plax
mannin
mike
tuck
shockey
i mean...lol
If you enough talent to get to the Super Bowl, you have the talent to win it. Just ask the Giants.
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^yeah, but if a Wildcard team can win; the "shoulda-been" 18-0 team should be able to win the last game.
"the greatest team ever" should be able to win the last one; if you can potentially win 25(? i forgot) games straight, you can't win 26?
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^yeah, but if a Wildcard team can win; the "shoulda-been" 18-0 team should be able to win the last game.
"the greatest team ever" should be able to win the last one; if you can potentially win 25(? i forgot) games straight, you can't win 26?
The way the the team was coached they got lucky in a lot of those wins at 14-0. Cowher would have made more of them convincing wins. The team can play tight D when asked, but when you don't ask....
And Walk On, the Giants didn't win because Eli stepped up. Eli didn't play better than Peyton did this past SB. If the Saints were held to 14 points the Colts would have won. Peyton gave that game a chance at victory. Any other QB and it wouldn't come down to a pick 6 and a dropped TD. It would have been 6-6 at half, and then 24-12 maybe to end it off. Maybe 31-12.
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It'll be interesting to see how LT does, how good is the Jets O Line in comparison to San Diego's?
Its not even close,the jets have argueably the best o line in football.Thjey have three probowlers on the left side,and the right side is the side they love to run to with their number one rushing attack in the league.It made pedestrian thomas jones have elite stats.
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yeah but the sb isnt the same game...time...location....that all matters and what also matters
teams get nervous, or they get tired....everythin comes into play otherwise why wouldnt they want to win......it aint easy and it aint as easy as it was for them to win all those 25 str8
^yeah, but if a Wildcard team can win; the "shoulda-been" 18-0 team should be able to win the last game.
"the greatest team ever" should be able to win the last one; if you can potentially win 25(? i forgot) games straight, you can't win 26?
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yeah but the sb isnt the same game...time...location....that all matters and what also matters
teams get nervous, or they get tired....everythin comes into play otherwise why wouldnt they want to win......it aint easy and it aint as easy as it was for them to win all those 25 str8
^yeah, but if a Wildcard team can win; the "shoulda-been" 18-0 team should be able to win the last game.
"the greatest team ever" should be able to win the last one; if you can potentially win 25(? i forgot) games straight, you can't win 26?
This has nothing to do with the players on the field. The coaches made the Colts lose that game. When they gave up on a successful man to man to play cover 2. When they decided not to disguise any coverage, or blitz once. When they didn't even think an onside kick was possible. And the one long shot they did take was the 50 FG and that would have been better served as a punt. It was a top to bottom coaching mess.
Polian wants to blame the o-line and Dungy wants to blame Garcon, but no one wants to draft top o-line men or trade for star WRs. And no one wants to try for 16-0. If it were up to the players they would have finished that game in NY, win or lose, and that game in Bufallo, win or lose. There's a reason Ditka was so upset, and there's a reason that no Colts team has ever been nearly as good as the 85 Bears. Put Caldwell, and Polian, ad Dungy on those Bears and they lose in the first round of the playoffs.
But, Manning should know all this and Manning, should leave if he wants to finish his career with rings. He still could with the Colts and if he does it with that lackluster organization then maybe he should go down as the best ever, but I can't see it happening with out some major philosophy changes.
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Peyton should go to the jets.The number one defense with the number one rushing game and number one o line with him?They would be unbeatable.
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Peyton should go to the jets.The number one defense with the number one rushing game and number one o line with him?They would be unbeatable.
Can you say back to back 19-0 seasons? Or 4-peat? Jets would have won this year easy. And everyone there is young too. Hell Peyton could go to Indy right now and say trade me for Sanchez for '10 or I'm walking out and playing there in '11. Peyton has 6 good years left. That's more than enough time to get some rings.
We can only dream. We can even dream about an all New York all Manning Superbowl one day. Giants vs the Jets in in New Orleans for the '13 season. Hometown boys go out to Broadway and come home to play each other. C'mon Goodel, make it happen.
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if the coaches were at fault....how come its cool for them to make mistakes but when players do it....they have to give up their kids life to show their sorry? lol
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if the coaches were at fault....how come its cool for them to make mistakes but when players do it....they have to give up their kids life to show their sorry? lol
I'm not sure the kids life reference is, but the difference between coaching mistakes and playing mistakes is players make mistakes in the heat of the moment. Coaches have all week and in between plays to think of their moves and when they make up a bad game plan and stick with it despite it not working they are at fault. If a WR drops a ball it's a drop, he's not choosing to drop it. If a coach sticks with cover 2 after play after play and refuses to go back to man to man when it had already been successful it's not just a drop, it's choosing to drop the ball. When Caldwell pulled Manning from the Jets game with a 15-10 lead and chose to keep him on the sideline after they lost the lead he chose to lose that game. And to me it's as bad as a QB throwing an INT on purpose.
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jets do have the best o-line in the NFL, LT will be fine. The Chargers o-line was awful the last few years especially running the ball, Plus the Chargers are a throwing offense, LT will have a good year