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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Blood$ on April 01, 2010, 02:00:38 PM
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so do I let my former employers live or should I kill em?
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Wouldn't black mailing be enough?
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so do I let my former employers live or should I kill em?
Depends. If he gave you an honest reason for letting you go then real recognize real and you let that nigga live.
If he made some shit up, then the real cannot support the fake, ya smell me?
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so do I let my former employers live or should I kill em?
Depends. If he gave you an honest reason for letting you go then real recognize real and you let that nigga live.
If he made some shit up, then the real cannot support the fake, ya smell me?
long story short, I been at this bullshit ass Taco Bell/KFC since September '08 and one of the former managers came back recently and he's just overall a straight up pussy whipped, ass kissing, dick riding, bitchmade type of dude, ya smell me?
so last night I got a little write up for having my Bluetooth in, and I manned up and signed the write up sheet and my two other managers told me it was not a big deal and I wouldn't get in trouble for it, etc... and so today this cunt manager seen I had the write up and that I signed it, so I guess he went to my file and I had one too many write ups, but they were all for simply having headphones, shirt not tucked in, and on ONE day I was late... that's all
and so he told me he was letting me go for it even though I've been there since day one before the place opened and I was "one of the better workers", I simply told him peace the fuck out and was just trying not to bug out in the store cuz I'm not trying to get arrested on the day I got fired too, ya smell me?
fuck my life
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Wouldn't black mailing be enough?
I have a few things plotted out :stir:
that is unless they call me crying to rehire me
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fuck it man its not worth going to jail over a fuckin job at taco bell. look at the big picture here haha
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That's wack shit. I hope you at least jacked a couple of Mexican pizzas on the way out.
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I've gone home with way more than that on hella days lol I never got caught, or I just pigged out on the food at work... I'm sick of all that shit now though
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I'm headin' over there right now, I'm sure them bitches is hirin' now.
Nah on the real, that's grimey, of all days right? Lol. They wack, nigga. Wack. My nigga though, damnnn, I wish ya ass the best of luck now tryin' to find another. Shit. How the fuck them places fire niggas over stupid shit like that? Maddd gay. I didn't even know you be gettin' writed up on shit, wow, ridiculous, like it's 10th grade.
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the best part is that now u can be a customer...and come back in at least once a week....complain about the food and the service...and send in complaints about that specific manager on his customer service.
Then tell people as u walk out...that u used to work there, and they shit in the taco meat...
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I'm sure them bitches is hirin' now.
lol I used to manage a Papa Johns a while back...shit sucked...but I used to get a kick outta muhafuckas walkin in talkin bout..."Is yall niggas hirin?!" LOL.
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complain about the food and the service...and send in complaints about that specific manager on his customer service.
you just put my thoughts in there lol I was thinking about sending a shitload of emails because I know how all the complaints work and they get emailed directly to the office in the store 8)
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I'm sure them bitches is hirin' now.
lol I used to manage a Papa Johns a while back...shit sucked...but I used to get a kick outta muhafuckas walkin in talkin bout..."Is yall niggas hirin?!" LOL.
(http://www.cynchronicity.com/smileys/giggleroll.gif)
And you know they was dead ass too...hahahahaha, lol.
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complain about the food and the service...and send in complaints about that specific manager on his customer service.
you just put my thoughts in there lol I was thinking about sending a shitload of emails because I know how all the complaints work and they get emailed directly to the office in the store 8)
yeah....shit, u can even go corporate office on that ass lol
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complain about the food and the service...and send in complaints about that specific manager on his customer service.
you just put my thoughts in there lol I was thinking about sending a shitload of emails because I know how all the complaints work and they get emailed directly to the office in the store 8)
yeah....shit, u can even go corporate office on that ass lol
I can tell you were or are still a manager haha, I know how all the shit goes.... I been on their computer a few times and seen enough PRC reports 8)
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I'm sure them bitches is hirin' now.
lol I used to manage a Papa Johns a while back...shit sucked...but I used to get a kick outta muhafuckas walkin in talkin bout..."Is yall niggas hirin?!" LOL.
(http://www.cynchronicity.com/smileys/giggleroll.gif)
And you know they was dead ass too...hahahahaha, lol.
lol dead ass broke...comin into a place with durags, wife beaters and some dusty as dickiez talkin bout..."ay nigga...can I getta muhafuckin job nigga?!
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I'm sure them bitches is hirin' now.
lol I used to manage a Papa Johns a while back...shit sucked...but I used to get a kick outta muhafuckas walkin in talkin bout..."Is yall niggas hirin?!" LOL.
(http://www.cynchronicity.com/smileys/giggleroll.gif)
And you know they was dead ass too...hahahahaha, lol.
lol dead ass broke...comin into a place with durags, wife beaters and some dusty as dickiez talkin bout..."ay nigga...can I getta muhafuckin job nigga?!
LOL
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complain about the food and the service...and send in complaints about that specific manager on his customer service.
you just put my thoughts in there lol I was thinking about sending a shitload of emails because I know how all the complaints work and they get emailed directly to the office in the store 8)
yeah....shit, u can even go corporate office on that ass lol
I can tell you were or are still a manager haha, I know how all the shit goes.... I been on their computer a few times and seen enough PRC reports 8)
hell yah. When I was managin at Papa Johns I had Taco Bell/KFC callin me about a management spot. The shit is franchised out here in CA right? Cant remember the name of the company that owns em. Yum or somethin like that. Just send a bunch of positive letters about the surrounding stores customer service to corporate from random names...and a bunch of negative ones about that store...lol
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I'm sure them bitches is hirin' now.
lol I used to manage a Papa Johns a while back...shit sucked...but I used to get a kick outta muhafuckas walkin in talkin bout..."Is yall niggas hirin?!" LOL.
(http://www.cynchronicity.com/smileys/giggleroll.gif)
And you know they was dead ass too...hahahahaha, lol.
lol dead ass broke...comin into a place with durags, wife beaters and some dusty as dickiez talkin bout..."ay nigga...can I getta muhafuckin job nigga?!
That shit ain't even right. I'd be mad. Cuz I bet chu 2 weeks later them asses gets a job at Wal-Mart. What a bitch that is. That fuckin' store is a whole notha world.
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I'm sure them bitches is hirin' now.
lol I used to manage a Papa Johns a while back...shit sucked...but I used to get a kick outta muhafuckas walkin in talkin bout..."Is yall niggas hirin?!" LOL.
(http://www.cynchronicity.com/smileys/giggleroll.gif)
And you know they was dead ass too...hahahahaha, lol.
lol dead ass broke...comin into a place with durags, wife beaters and some dusty as dickiez talkin bout..."ay nigga...can I getta muhafuckin job nigga?!
That shit ain't even right. I'd be mad. Cuz I bet chu 2 weeks later them asses gets a job at Wal-Mart. What a bitch that is. That fuckin' store is a whole notha world.
HELL YAH. Walmart is FUCKED up. I hate that fuckin place. My girl is from ATL...and damn near everybody from the South says them shits are nice down there. Well...what the fuck happened to ours?! I think they got some sorta work-release thing goin on with the prisons out here.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
I have broken plenty of rules at work...that isn't my point. Rules are rules whether you like them or not, or whether or not you agree with them. You are employed at will, meaning slavery doesn't exist and you are free to leave your job at any time.
He works at taco bell doing a job, where over 90% of this nation can perform the duties. He is not providing any special skills. Supply of labor far outweighs the demand for this position. Employers will use any excuse in the book to get rid of a bad employee. On the other hand, a good employee can get away with a lot. That is how it works.
No matter what the original poster thinks, obviously his employer did not think that he was worth the expense.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Yeah back at Papa Johns...shiiiiiiiiit. It was out in the open. I could have fired anybody for stealin food if I wanted to....cus it was basically so common that it was acceptable. Shit, I would leave on a Friday night with 6 pizzas if I wanted....nobody would give a shit. My district manager would stop by and get a pizza. With that being said...even tho it was basically acceptable...it WAS against policy and I could have fired anyone I wanted for it. Would that have been fair to single out one person and fire them at that point? Hell no.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
I have broken plenty of rules at work...that isn't my point. Rules are rules whether you like them or not, or whether or not you agree with them. You are employed at will, meaning slavery doesn't exist and you are free to leave your job at any time.
He works at taco bell doing a job, where over 90% of this nation can perform the duties. He is not providing any special skills. Supply of labor far outweighs the demand for this position. Employers will use any excuse in the book to get rid of a bad employee. On the other hand, a good employee can get away with a lot. That is how it works.
No matter what the original poster thinks, obviously his employer did not think that he was worth the expense.
thats a very basic way of looking at it man. Youre under the assumption that the "employer" was a robot simply enforcing rules. During my management...we were an At Will employer. I could have fired somebody for nothing. Well..."At Willed" them. Simply because I didnt like them as much as another employee. They could perform exactly the same as everyone else...and I could have said..."sorry...you no longer work here...youre At Willed". lol.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
I have broken plenty of rules at work...that isn't my point. Rules are rules whether you like them or not, or whether or not you agree with them. You are employed at will, meaning slavery doesn't exist and you are free to leave your job at any time.
He works at taco bell doing a job, where over 90% of this nation can perform the duties. He is not providing any special skills. Supply of labor far outweighs the demand for this position. Employers will use any excuse in the book to get rid of a bad employee. On the other hand, a good employee can get away with a lot. That is how it works.
No matter what the original poster thinks, obviously his employer did not think that he was worth the expense.
you or anybody on here also don't know this manager like I do, and there's also slightly a little bit more to this situation but it's a whole nohter story that I ain't typing, what I said was just in summary and I don't feel like having to type every little detail
and as far as taking account for your actions, I manned up about all the headphones/Bluetooth/uniform bullshit, and yet dude still has the balls to give me the boot
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
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I have owned and ran a small business. Trust me, a good employee is worth keeping around and you will put up w/ a lot of bullshit because good workers are very hard to find. Bad workers or avg workers on the other hand come a dime a dozen. They can be replaced within hours.
You are failing to see both sides of the situation. I've been on both sides as an Employer and an Employee.
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you must not have read when I said that this manager came back recently, meaning he almost never seen me work and therefore didn't have any know as to if I was "good" or "bad", he told me I was let go because he is strictly going by the book
any of the other managers there would't have fired me you can bet that, and I'm not surprised if I get a call from them in a few days
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I have owned and ran a small business. Trust me, a good employee is worth keeping around and you will put up w/ a lot of bullshit because good workers are very hard to find. Bad workers or avg workers on the other hand come a dime a dozen. They can be replaced within hours.
You are failing to see both sides of the situation. I've been on both sides as an Employer and an Employee.
Owned or managed...its the same idea. My paychecks were directly related to the profit of the store. I was in charge of all hiring, firing, suspending, training...etc. So yeah, a good employee is valueable. But in a fast food environment...employees are a dime a dozen. You are typically hoping for someone who is simply productive and shows up to work. The bottom line tho...is no matter what the rules, you have to hold people to the same standards. You cant fire one guy for something...that you didnt fire another one for. Unless you wanna be sued.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
If there is one thing that I am 100% certain on, it is that life is not fair. If I go out and gamble and lose all my money, I'm not going to blame the casino. That was my choice. Yes, I had a chance to win, I took the risk, and I lost. Now I suffer the consequences.
Same thing with breaking the rules or laws. I break rules and laws all the time - however I know full well what it is that I am doing, and I am aware that risk comes with it, and if I get caught then I face the chance of dealing with those consequences.
Do I think what he did was some horrible crime? Absolutely not. But he did break the rules, and therefore his risk didn't quite payoff. I mean, he got rewarded w/ all that free food that he stole...so maybe it did.
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I have owned and ran a small business. Trust me, a good employee is worth keeping around and you will put up w/ a lot of bullshit because good workers are very hard to find. Bad workers or avg workers on the other hand come a dime a dozen. They can be replaced within hours.
You are failing to see both sides of the situation. I've been on both sides as an Employer and an Employee.
Owned or managed...its the same idea. My paychecks were directly related to the profit of the store. I was in charge of all hiring, firing, suspending, training...etc. So yeah, a good employee is valueable. But in a fast food environment...employees are a dime a dozen. You are typically hoping for someone who is simply productive and shows up to work. The bottom line tho...is no matter what the rules, you have to hold people to the same standards. You cant fire one guy for something...that you didnt fire another one for. Unless you wanna be sued.
An employer should need no reason for firing other than they don't want that employee working there. That is a real free market. Its the bullshit fucking litigation in this country that causes all kinds of worthless people to hang on to jobs forever and make it damn near impossible to get rid of bad employees.
If I am an employer and I hire you and you work for several months and I decide that you are not the employee that I was looking for, I should be able to fire you for no reason at all...I shouldn't have to search for some stupid excuse like you were wearing your blue tooth.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
If there is one thing that I am 100% certain on, it is that life is not fair. If I go out and gamble and lose all my money, I'm not going to blame the casino. That was my choice. Yes, I had a chance to win, I took the risk, and I lost. Now I suffer the consequences.
Same thing with breaking the rules or laws. I break rules and laws all the time - however I know full well what it is that I am doing, and I am aware that risk comes with it, and if I get caught then I face the chance of dealing with those consequences.
Do I think what he did was some horrible crime? Absolutely not. But he did break the rules, and therefore his risk didn't quite payoff. I mean, he got rewarded w/ all that free food that he stole...so maybe it did.
You must be quite the "yes man". lol
You say that others arent looking at things from both sides of the argument...but it sounds like youre not. Its one thing when there are clear cut rules...and you simply chose to break a rule. Its another thing when the enforcer of the rule...your superior, breaks those rules and creates a culture where that rule is no longer valid. At that point...it IS unfair for that superior to then fire YOU solely for rules that are no longer being enforced by them....and even broken by them. Again...a good case for unlawful termination.
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I have owned and ran a small business. Trust me, a good employee is worth keeping around and you will put up w/ a lot of bullshit because good workers are very hard to find. Bad workers or avg workers on the other hand come a dime a dozen. They can be replaced within hours.
You are failing to see both sides of the situation. I've been on both sides as an Employer and an Employee.
Owned or managed...its the same idea. My paychecks were directly related to the profit of the store. I was in charge of all hiring, firing, suspending, training...etc. So yeah, a good employee is valueable. But in a fast food environment...employees are a dime a dozen. You are typically hoping for someone who is simply productive and shows up to work. The bottom line tho...is no matter what the rules, you have to hold people to the same standards. You cant fire one guy for something...that you didnt fire another one for. Unless you wanna be sued.
An employer should need no reason for firing other than they don't want that employee working there. That is a real free market. Its the bullshit fucking litigation in this country that causes all kinds of worthless people to hang on to jobs forever and make it damn near impossible to get rid of bad employees.
If I am an employer and I hire you and you work for several months and I decide that you are not the employee that I was looking for, I should be able to fire you for no reason at all...I shouldn't have to search for some stupid excuse like you were wearing your blue tooth.
its what protects employers from unfairly firing people for absolutely no reason....or more importantly...for something like race, religion, etc. Particularly in a lopsided society.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
If there is one thing that I am 100% certain on, it is that life is not fair. If I go out and gamble and lose all my money, I'm not going to blame the casino. That was my choice. Yes, I had a chance to win, I took the risk, and I lost. Now I suffer the consequences.
Same thing with breaking the rules or laws. I break rules and laws all the time - however I know full well what it is that I am doing, and I am aware that risk comes with it, and if I get caught then I face the chance of dealing with those consequences.
Do I think what he did was some horrible crime? Absolutely not. But he did break the rules, and therefore his risk didn't quite payoff. I mean, he got rewarded w/ all that free food that he stole...so maybe it did.
You must be quite the "yes man". lol
You say that others arent looking at things from both sides of the argument...but it sounds like youre not. Its one thing when there are clear cut rules...and you simply chose to break a rule. Its another thing when the enforcer of the rule...your superior, breaks those rules and creates a culture where that rule is no longer valid. At that point...it IS unfair for that superior to then fire YOU solely for rules that are no longer being enforced by them....and even broken by them. Again...a good case for unlawful termination.
I'm not a yes man at all...I'm a good employee
Like I said, good employees are hard to come by. Bad and avg employees come a dime a dozen. If there is one resource the world is not short on, it is supply of labor.
And again - life isn't fair. As long as you live your life considering whether things are fair or unfair, then you are going to face frustration. Life will never be fair.
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I have owned and ran a small business. Trust me, a good employee is worth keeping around and you will put up w/ a lot of bullshit because good workers are very hard to find. Bad workers or avg workers on the other hand come a dime a dozen. They can be replaced within hours.
You are failing to see both sides of the situation. I've been on both sides as an Employer and an Employee.
Owned or managed...its the same idea. My paychecks were directly related to the profit of the store. I was in charge of all hiring, firing, suspending, training...etc. So yeah, a good employee is valueable. But in a fast food environment...employees are a dime a dozen. You are typically hoping for someone who is simply productive and shows up to work. The bottom line tho...is no matter what the rules, you have to hold people to the same standards. You cant fire one guy for something...that you didnt fire another one for. Unless you wanna be sued.
An employer should need no reason for firing other than they don't want that employee working there. That is a real free market. Its the bullshit fucking litigation in this country that causes all kinds of worthless people to hang on to jobs forever and make it damn near impossible to get rid of bad employees.
If I am an employer and I hire you and you work for several months and I decide that you are not the employee that I was looking for, I should be able to fire you for no reason at all...I shouldn't have to search for some stupid excuse like you were wearing your blue tooth.
its what protects employers from unfairly firing people for absolutely no reason....or more importantly...for something like race, religion, etc. Particularly in a lopsided society.
Well in a real free market those ppl would never be fired because they never would have been hired in the first place. If I don't like your race and I don't want to hire you and I own the business, why should anyone other than me make the call of who I hire? In the end as the business owner I am responsible for all debts, and I am the one who put all the risk in forming the business. The fact that I am racist - yes, that is a moral issue, but the free market is about business, not morals.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
If there is one thing that I am 100% certain on, it is that life is not fair. If I go out and gamble and lose all my money, I'm not going to blame the casino. That was my choice. Yes, I had a chance to win, I took the risk, and I lost. Now I suffer the consequences.
Same thing with breaking the rules or laws. I break rules and laws all the time - however I know full well what it is that I am doing, and I am aware that risk comes with it, and if I get caught then I face the chance of dealing with those consequences.
Do I think what he did was some horrible crime? Absolutely not. But he did break the rules, and therefore his risk didn't quite payoff. I mean, he got rewarded w/ all that free food that he stole...so maybe it did.
You must be quite the "yes man". lol
You say that others arent looking at things from both sides of the argument...but it sounds like youre not. Its one thing when there are clear cut rules...and you simply chose to break a rule. Its another thing when the enforcer of the rule...your superior, breaks those rules and creates a culture where that rule is no longer valid. At that point...it IS unfair for that superior to then fire YOU solely for rules that are no longer being enforced by them....and even broken by them. Again...a good case for unlawful termination.
I'm not a yes man at all...I'm a good employee
Like I said, good employees are hard to come by. Bad and avg employees come a dime a dozen. If there is one resource the world is not short on, it is supply of labor.
And again - life isn't fair. As long as you live your life considering whether things are fair or unfair, then you are going to face frustration. Life will never be fair.
Life wont be fair. But your employer should be. Which is why there are laws to enforce it. If youre so "by the book", then youre also all for that same employee turning around and suing their former employer. You being a good employee is your opinion. Im guessing if your boss was to say...."hey...just so you know, we are letting you go because you were 1 minute late yesterday....even though Sally next to you has been late 20 times and you perform at the same level....sorry. Life isnt fair". You will be perfectly fine with that....because life isnt fair.
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
If there is one thing that I am 100% certain on, it is that life is not fair. If I go out and gamble and lose all my money, I'm not going to blame the casino. That was my choice. Yes, I had a chance to win, I took the risk, and I lost. Now I suffer the consequences.
Same thing with breaking the rules or laws. I break rules and laws all the time - however I know full well what it is that I am doing, and I am aware that risk comes with it, and if I get caught then I face the chance of dealing with those consequences.
Do I think what he did was some horrible crime? Absolutely not. But he did break the rules, and therefore his risk didn't quite payoff. I mean, he got rewarded w/ all that free food that he stole...so maybe it did.
You must be quite the "yes man". lol
You say that others arent looking at things from both sides of the argument...but it sounds like youre not. Its one thing when there are clear cut rules...and you simply chose to break a rule. Its another thing when the enforcer of the rule...your superior, breaks those rules and creates a culture where that rule is no longer valid. At that point...it IS unfair for that superior to then fire YOU solely for rules that are no longer being enforced by them....and even broken by them. Again...a good case for unlawful termination.
I'm not a yes man at all...I'm a good employee
Like I said, good employees are hard to come by. Bad and avg employees come a dime a dozen. If there is one resource the world is not short on, it is supply of labor.
And again - life isn't fair. As long as you live your life considering whether things are fair or unfair, then you are going to face frustration. Life will never be fair.
Life wont be fair. But your employer should be. Which is why there are laws to enforce it. If youre so "by the book", then youre also all for that same employee turning around and suing their former employer. You being a good employee is your opinion. Im guessing if your boss was to say...."hey...just so you know, we are letting you go because you were 1 minute late yesterday....even though Sally next to you has been late 20 times and you perform at the same level....sorry. Life isnt fair". You will be perfectly fine with that....because life isnt fair.
yeah he will be, as long as it makes him a good employee :P
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the best part is that now u can be a customer...and come back in at least once a week....complain about the food and the service...and send in complaints about that specific manager on his customer service.
Then tell people as u walk out...that u used to work there, and they shit in the taco meat...
This
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the best part is that now u can be a customer...and come back in at least once a week....complain about the food and the service...and send in complaints about that specific manager on his customer service.
Then tell people as u walk out...that u used to work there, and they shit in the taco meat...
This
the look on their faces as their biting into their Beefy 5-layer Burrito will be priceless...
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
If there is one thing that I am 100% certain on, it is that life is not fair. If I go out and gamble and lose all my money, I'm not going to blame the casino. That was my choice. Yes, I had a chance to win, I took the risk, and I lost. Now I suffer the consequences.
Same thing with breaking the rules or laws. I break rules and laws all the time - however I know full well what it is that I am doing, and I am aware that risk comes with it, and if I get caught then I face the chance of dealing with those consequences.
Do I think what he did was some horrible crime? Absolutely not. But he did break the rules, and therefore his risk didn't quite payoff. I mean, he got rewarded w/ all that free food that he stole...so maybe it did.
You must be quite the "yes man". lol
You say that others arent looking at things from both sides of the argument...but it sounds like youre not. Its one thing when there are clear cut rules...and you simply chose to break a rule. Its another thing when the enforcer of the rule...your superior, breaks those rules and creates a culture where that rule is no longer valid. At that point...it IS unfair for that superior to then fire YOU solely for rules that are no longer being enforced by them....and even broken by them. Again...a good case for unlawful termination.
I'm not a yes man at all...I'm a good employee
Like I said, good employees are hard to come by. Bad and avg employees come a dime a dozen. If there is one resource the world is not short on, it is supply of labor.
And again - life isn't fair. As long as you live your life considering whether things are fair or unfair, then you are going to face frustration. Life will never be fair.
Life wont be fair. But your employer should be. Which is why there are laws to enforce it. If youre so "by the book", then youre also all for that same employee turning around and suing their former employer. You being a good employee is your opinion. Im guessing if your boss was to say...."hey...just so you know, we are letting you go because you were 1 minute late yesterday....even though Sally next to you has been late 20 times and you perform at the same level....sorry. Life isnt fair". You will be perfectly fine with that....because life isnt fair.
of course I wouldn't be happy about it. I never said anything about that. I certainly would not sue. I also wouldn't be happy with the money that I lost gambling at the casino. I understand that life isn't fair, that doesn't mean that I don't have emotions and I don't get mad at things, I just realize accountability.
Just as I would be pissed off as all hell if I got a speeding ticket for going 1 mph over the speed limit. It sucks, but nobody forced me to drive faster than the speed limit. I chose to do that. Whether I ignored the possible consequences is a different question. And sometimes I do ignore the possible consequences, and I regret it.
I also am a realist. I know that a good employee will not be fired for being 1 minute late. I also know that there is a massive difference between being 1 min late 1 time, and stealing and being written up multiple times.
like you said, not everything is black and white. I'm simply saying that in this situation it doesn't sound like this guy was being Mr. Employee of the Month, and his manager was a shady dirt bag who gave him the shaft.
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the ironic part about all of this is my one manager gave me a "champs" card which is basically the opposite of a write up and you get it for working hard, and then a few hours later is when I got written up for the Bluetooth lol
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Hmmm...not quite sure what I am missing here, but I certainly don't share the same viewpoints...
You admitted to stealing hella food, and getting written up for breaking other policy rules. How exactly is your employer doing you wrong?
never caught for stealing food....so it didnt happen :D. I can guarantee you everyone of us has broken 1...if not several rules at our jobs. Not always a fireable offense. At a fast food joint...firing someone for having their blue tooth in...a couple write ups for untucked shirt...and being late once lol Shit...at most of those places thats a weeks worth of offenses for one employee.
exactamundo... and everybody there including the managers takes food for free anyways, we just can't be seen doing it
Again, you are stealing. Taking what is not yours. Are you seriously that delusional that you don't see the wrong on your end here? It doesn't matter if everybody does it...it is still stealing. If there was nothing wrong with it, then you wouldn't have to "not be seen doing it". If you continue with that logic and attitude, not only will you not get a decent job, but you will get fired in the future.
You want to steal? Fine...its not the worst thing ever. But don't shift the blame to someone else. Take accountability for your actions.
man cmon. You sound like a computer. Every company has policies that have a gray line...and its pretty much accepted that those lines are blurry...and can be crossed and it is ok. When youre boss...or even your bosses boss crosses those lines because it is considered acceptable even while being outside of the RULES...it IS unfair to then hold ONE person accountable while no one else is. As a matter of fact, you would have a good case for unlawful termination at that point.
If there is one thing that I am 100% certain on, it is that life is not fair. If I go out and gamble and lose all my money, I'm not going to blame the casino. That was my choice. Yes, I had a chance to win, I took the risk, and I lost. Now I suffer the consequences.
Same thing with breaking the rules or laws. I break rules and laws all the time - however I know full well what it is that I am doing, and I am aware that risk comes with it, and if I get caught then I face the chance of dealing with those consequences.
Do I think what he did was some horrible crime? Absolutely not. But he did break the rules, and therefore his risk didn't quite payoff. I mean, he got rewarded w/ all that free food that he stole...so maybe it did.
You must be quite the "yes man". lol
You say that others arent looking at things from both sides of the argument...but it sounds like youre not. Its one thing when there are clear cut rules...and you simply chose to break a rule. Its another thing when the enforcer of the rule...your superior, breaks those rules and creates a culture where that rule is no longer valid. At that point...it IS unfair for that superior to then fire YOU solely for rules that are no longer being enforced by them....and even broken by them. Again...a good case for unlawful termination.
I'm not a yes man at all...I'm a good employee
Like I said, good employees are hard to come by. Bad and avg employees come a dime a dozen. If there is one resource the world is not short on, it is supply of labor.
And again - life isn't fair. As long as you live your life considering whether things are fair or unfair, then you are going to face frustration. Life will never be fair.
Life wont be fair. But your employer should be. Which is why there are laws to enforce it. If youre so "by the book", then youre also all for that same employee turning around and suing their former employer. You being a good employee is your opinion. Im guessing if your boss was to say...."hey...just so you know, we are letting you go because you were 1 minute late yesterday....even though Sally next to you has been late 20 times and you perform at the same level....sorry. Life isnt fair". You will be perfectly fine with that....because life isnt fair.
of course I wouldn't be happy about it. I never said anything about that. I certainly would not sue. I also wouldn't be happy with the money that I lost gambling at the casino. I understand that life isn't fair, that doesn't mean that I don't have emotions and I don't get mad at things, I just realize accountability.
Just as I would be pissed off as all hell if I got a speeding ticket for going 1 mph over the speed limit. It sucks, but nobody forced me to drive faster than the speed limit. I chose to do that. Whether I ignored the possible consequences is a different question. And sometimes I do ignore the possible consequences, and I regret it.
I also am a realist. I know that a good employee will not be fired for being 1 minute late. I also know that there is a massive difference between being 1 min late 1 time, and stealing and being written up multiple times.
like you said, not everything is black and white. I'm simply saying that in this situation it doesn't sound like this guy was being Mr. Employee of the Month, and his manager was a shady dirt bag who gave him the shaft.
I get what youre sayin man. I just think there are rules...and unwritten rules. And as an employer its your job to provide a fair working environment for your employees. In my case...what everyone was doing was technically considered stealing food. But it was accepted company wide by my bosses...and my boss's bosses. It would have been completely wrong to fire one person for theft...without firing everyone else who did it. You can either go strictly by the book...or not. But if you do...then you have to do it for everyone...and always. Or you do run the risk of being sued...and thats a reality. So if youre a realist you have to accept that as well.
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If the manager/s don't like you and you give them a good enough reason to terminate you, they won't hesitate........no one's irreplaceable.
Can't believe you got a written warning for an untucked shirt...........unless you always wore it like that. What's the proceedure in America? Two verbals, one written....then termination?
As for April Fools.........yesterday for me, totally forgot about it. I was wondering why the office staff were pulling pranks on each other.
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Can't believe you got a written warning for an untucked shirt...........unless you always wore it like that. What's the proceedure in America? Two verbals, one written....then termination?
lol@ procedure in America
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can you get unemployment?
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bloodmoney
sounds like u got fuckd with no Vaseline. its not worth it to go to jail f0r tho.
in this situation i would look for a new job and forget about this kfc.
until things r smooth (a month or so) then i would definitely shoot up the joint for personal satisfaction!
it always makes me happy at the end of the day :)
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lol^^^^
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Well, I'm sorry to hear about this shit man.
It's natural to feel wronged, but the fact remains that you don't have a job with them anymore. I would absolutely fuck with them though if it makes you feel better.
And let's keep it real, there are plenty of other jobs out there less horrible than working at taco bell. If you were a good worker, a manager there will vouch for you.
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All you can do is clean your act up. The reason people can't get jobs is they have no interview edicate and have the body language of a punk and dress the part to the interview. People can read that shit all day. Step your game up. Learn how to speak properly and put your points forward clearly. Employers don't want employees who talk ebonics and have the vocabulary of a 14 year old wigger.
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if youre tryin to get back into fast food...when u fill out the application...tell em your Mexican. It isnt a for sure thing....but judging by the fast food spots in SD....it cant hurt.
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racism at its best? lol
if youre tryin to get back into fast food...when u fill out the application...tell em your Mexican. It isnt a for sure thing....but judging by the fast food spots in SD....it cant hurt.
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racism at its best? lol
if youre tryin to get back into fast food...when u fill out the application...tell em your Mexican. It isnt a for sure thing....but judging by the fast food spots in SD....it cant hurt.
Ay...I love my Mexican homies lol But they got the fast food game on lock...
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how so? lol
and why you love em?
racism at its best? lol
if youre tryin to get back into fast food...when u fill out the application...tell em your Mexican. It isnt a for sure thing....but judging by the fast food spots in SD....it cant hurt.
Ay...I love my Mexican homies lol But they got the fast food game on lock...