West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Fatdodger on April 27, 2010, 03:59:37 PM
-
I ain't gon lie I thought that streetlights was gonna be better but I don't like terrace martins beats like that I prefer Fredwreck or Battlecat even quik was better blaQKOut gets alot of hate and I thought it was pretty solid.
-
I was expecting a little more from Terrace as well. Something more like "locke high". Still streetlights isn't bad, just not what I expected.
-
I was expecting a little more from Terrace as well. Something more like "locke high". Still streetlights isn't bad, just not what I expected.
Thats what i think even if i like Streetlights
-
yeah never really liked his style...he got a couple of bangers but overall not feelin his style
-
It is different and not for everyone I guess.
Some of the stuff you really need to be in that frame of mind. Other than i'm burnt, im drunk and all that I want - which was kind of party/summer tracks, the rest feels pretty dark.
I still love Streetlights and am feeling all tracks but "Scrape" and "Face Down".
"All That I want" ft Snoop to be next single....hopefully.
-
his beats all sound simple and the same , never really cared for his beats . he is ok though
-
fair enough.
i personally feel like he did his thing on "Streelights", but that's just my opinion.
no beats that would make me want to listen to the Instrumental Album lol, but overall, he did his thing.
-
I agree...why are ppl jumpin' on Terrace Martin? Who's his Dad? ha
I don't like being a hater but i only like "bounce rock skate" and I haven't heard another beat I like by him yet.
-
yeah thats prolly my favorite joint by him
I agree...why are ppl jumpin' on Terrace Martin? Who's his Dad? ha
I don't like being a hater but i only like "bounce rock skate" and I haven't heard another beat I like by him yet.
-
I like his prods... you can tell he's a musician. very good composer
-
I have to agree.
Hit and miss for me.
Streetlights is cool though, beatwise. But nothing outstanding.
-
hes more of a musician I guess....hes been in the game for years.....years but he on some different vibe
-
Terrace has heat sometimes, but the club shit sucks
-
When Terrace Martin first came out with Snoop he had that Jazzy/soul vibe on his compositions and beats and that's what make me love his music.
These last few years he switched up his style into something more experimental like Quik did with the Fixxers and by hearing the first leaks of the combo Terrace/Kurupt
that Styles leaked last year I knew the album would not sound like a "Locke High" or "Signal Flow".
But I tried to get into his productions on "Streetlights" properly and I found the album musically on another level, I really think Terrace is a genious.
Heavy basses, great keys and percussions and a lot of instruments are used and make the album sounds really great.
-
Terrace is a good ass producer. He just needs better artists on his beats. Kurupt is legendary but no where near on that KingPin level he used to be on. Good rappers make average/poor beats into somethin serious, and Kurupt didn't do that (not to say that is was wack bcuz 'Rup had that flame on a few tracks).
But as far as Terrace is concerned. Overall he's better than alotta tha newer producers to come out, especially in tha West. Most California producers ONLY have that same String/Piano melody in their beats, Terrace tries to do it up a little different, which makes him better off the jump. I think if T had some "harder" sounds and added some more ghetto harmony to his sound then I could see him growing on more people outside of just "westcoast heads". Also, he should try getting outta Cali and fuckin' wit some MidWest and Eastcoast niggaz, and definitely some niggaz from the south, it would enhance his sound overall too.
-
yeah, streetslight was a dissapointment, and the main reason are the beats!
he´s talented but somehow it doesent seem to work out for a whole rap album, i like some of his beats but many beats just sound, simple, boring and habe no replay value
waiting on blaQkOut 2 8)
-
I have been trying to figure out what people ever saw in his music.
-
this review pretty much sums up hw I feel about streetlights martin in general...
Kurupt's maintained a hectic release schedule of late but unfortunately has little to show for it. In the last year and a half alone he's released two collaboration albums with his younger brother Roscoe, one with DJ Quik, a Dogg Pound album that was so poorly promoted it might as well have been a secret, and has already announced another DPG album due next month and a solo for 2011. There were countless guest appearances with everyone from longtime partner-in-rhyme Daz Dillinger to Murs to Brotha Lynch Hung to Sadat X, and even the ghost of Death Row Records got into the action by releasing a compilation of old cuts. Although the Quik album was a highlight of summer 2009, it was more for Quik's contributions than Kurupt's, and for the most part these releases were disappointing in that they were filler-heavy and showed no progression from a lyrical or musical standpoint, lacking the clever wordplay of earlier efforts and even the gangsta sheen of latter day DPG releases. There was a time when Young Gotti stood proudly among the West Coast's finest lyricists, but of late he's appeared a shadow of his former self, all too content to release an abundance of mediocre material and frustrating listeners with his inconsistent quality.
"Streetlights" pairs Kurupt with fellow West Coast producer Terrace Martin, who handles most of the production. If Martin's name doesn't ring any bells, his resume consists of periodic Snoop Dogg tracks from the last decade, as well as the rare beat for other big names such as Shawnna, Talib Kweli, and Murs. In his promotional video blog for "Street Lights," Martin addressed the listeners who proclaimed Kurupt's falling off, promising a return to classic form. The press kit announces, "This is the album Kurupt fans and the streets have been waiting for," because "Not since ‘Space Boogie: Smoke Odyssey' have Kurupt fans been able to hear the Kurupt that moved him from Kingpin to Young Gotti," thereby discounting "Same Day Different Shit" and the considerable DPG discography that has accumulated since 2001. Although Pete Rock and Lil Jon also contribute tracks, most of the songs fall into one of two categories: club tracks that find Kurupt trying to cater to a new, younger audience and straightforward West Coast gangsta rap that sounds similar to most of his output from the last decade.
The best track is the intro, laced with Martin's finest beat, a funky, rousing synth-laden number. Young Gotti sounds exuberant as he raps about the state of the game and his progression toward 2010. The first single "I'm Burnt" featuring young California rapper Problem is also the first misstep, a blippy club track. Martin provides sparse electronica somewhere between DJ Quik's "9X Outta 10," a contemporary hyphy track, and the West Coast's emerging jerk scene, and Kurupt's tired raps chronicle yet another inebriated night on the town. The name-dropping and extensive description of substance use establish the par for "Streetlights." Kingpin addresses rumors on the heavy "Questions" before the odd "Face Down," a gun-laced song which sounds reminiscent of a Kokane track. The second single "In Gotti We Trust" features a thumping, identifiably West Coast-sounding beat and Xzibit on the hook.
Martin isn't a terrible producer, but he lacks his own sound and most of his beats sound quite familiar. Kurupt, on the other hand, seems at a loss for material, not unreasonable given his huge output, but apparently his solution is to either rap about being drunk and high or address nameless haters. Take the creatively titled "I'm Drunk":
"A half a bottle to the face before I fell in
Insides yellin' (Every day I'm drunk)
I need to get to the bathroom
Check my pockets for my money, feelin' nutty as a cashew
Damn, bitch, you gotta fat ass, smack it like pa-daw
Fuck it (Bitch, I think I'm drunk)"
His schemes are at times elementary, and further deficiencies emerge upon closer listens to his verses. On the otherwise passable title track he raps, "Tryin' to block my thoughts, I hush the fool / My money's all grown up like Rudy Huxtable," perhaps unaware but more likely apathetic that the analogy was used in a top 10 hit from six years ago and countless times since; an acceptable tactic for some rappers for sure, but no doubt his listeners hold the man who gave them "Dogg Food" and "Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha" to higher standards. Kurupt's huge output of mediocre material understandably leads old fans to wonder whether he no longer takes himself seriously or has truly fallen off.
Snoop Dogg shows up for the familiar "All That I Want," and on the Pete Rock track "Yessir," Kurupt's goofy flow brings Shawty Lo to mind as he delivers tired braggadocio. Pete saves this song from being a throwaway but one can't help but feel that Kurupt is capable of better. "Scrape" incorporates the lewdness but none of the wry humor of "Xxplosive" or even "Pull Ya Drawz Down," not to mention the laughably simplistic verses. "I'm the Man" is good for the first 20 seconds until a Weezy-wannabe clocks in with his autotuned hook. The tracklist is rounded out with the self-explanatory "Riot in the Club," a remix to "I'm Burnt" with Snoop and Roscoe, and the "Bounce, Rock, Skate (Kurupted Mix)" with Snoop, Quik, Martin, and DJ Drama.
Young Gotti still shows rare glimpses of his former brilliance—he's still a good guest rapper to have on board—but largely lost his spark somewhere in his mid-30s as he continued to release a large volume of music. One can't write off Kurupt as a has-been just yet, and I don't doubt his ability to make good music in the future, but in 2010 he sounds derivative, uninspired, and starving for a paycheck. "Street Lights" is another subpar album that will probably be forgotten as soon as his next album arrives, which given his current rate of output ought to be very soon.
Music Vibes: 4.5 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 3.5 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 4 of 10
-
Although the Quik album was a highlight of summer 2009, it was more for Quik's contributions than Kurupt's, and for the most part these releases were disappointing in that they were filler-heavy and showed no progression from a lyrical or musical standpoint[/color][/font], lacking the clever wordplay of earlier efforts and even the gangsta sheen of latter day DPG releases.
i guess this nigga never even listened to BlaQout outside of the amazon.com snippets (if that). that's why some people on here didn't like, just bcuz production-wise it was too different. this part of the review is WAAAAAY THA FUCK OFF. Quik made some of the most craziest unique beats on that album (and definitely different than anything he's done b4). i dont know what tha fuck this guy is talking about.
even Kurupt changed up his content AND delivery on that album. that's why i hate NY/CA (mainly NY) based reviewers/editors, they never listen to shit outside of Philly but make it sound like they're so diverse and well versed in Hip Hop. that statement just blew my day lol. but for the most part i can say he wasn't too far off (damn near hit the nail on tha head). but i mean it all depends on who's listening and what they're listening to/for.
-
I like his beats on "Streetlights" but i think he could've done better though. Overall the album is good, but it's too short.
-
Terrace is a good ass producer. He just needs better artists on his beats. Kurupt is legendary but no where near on that KingPin level he used to be on. Good rappers make average/poor beats into somethin serious, and Kurupt didn't do that (not to say that is was wack bcuz 'Rup had that flame on a few tracks).
But as far as Terrace is concerned. Overall he's better than alotta tha newer producers to come out, especially in tha West. Most California producers ONLY have that same String/Piano melody in their beats, Terrace tries to do it up a little different, which makes him better off the jump. I think if T had some "harder" sounds and added some more ghetto harmony to his sound then I could see him growing on more people outside of just "westcoast heads". Also, he should try getting outta Cali and fuckin' wit some MidWest and Eastcoast niggaz, and definitely some niggaz from the south, it would enhance his sound overall too.
i agree with alot of this,i think he makes his beats to fit the theme of an album, i mean all WEST COAST BEATS DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT DAMN PIANO!!!!! give the equal some room to breathe and create yell