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Title: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: firingsquad_pooh on May 05, 2010, 03:09:52 PM
He's moved from the east coast to the bay 1st,then from the bay to La.what made him a la artist ?
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Hazzard on May 05, 2010, 03:10:38 PM
who cares?hes a worldwide legend...
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
in no way what so ever can the words Tupac and LA rapper go together.  It is obvious that Tupac had an east coast flow and accent, brushed with some Oakland slang.  He was a NYC and Baltimore native that moved to Oakland, I feel as though he can rep Oakland since he made some moves there and actually resided there for a legnth of time, but he can\'t rep LA, thats where he lived when he was making money like alot of actors and rappers.  but that doesn\'t make these actors and rappers all of a sudden from LA.  For instance, Nas now lives in LA, so he\'s a LA niggah now?
hell naw, thats a Queensbridge niggah for ever.  And Tupac is a Bronx niggah forever. 
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: firingsquad_pooh on May 05, 2010, 03:18:30 PM
this has always been my point.he's from the east coast and just claimed whatever made him money at the time.if a bay or la rapper move to ny a new yorker will never say your from thier coast.pac was a bay artist,then  crip affiliated with thug life,then banging mob with shug and the piru's.i love pac but he was a great actor when it came to fitting in musically.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 03:27:45 PM
this has always been my point.he\'s from the east coast and just claimed whatever made him money at the time.if a bay or la rapper move to ny a new yorker will never say your from thier coast.pac was a bay artist,then  crip affiliated with thug life,then banging mob with shug and the piru\'s.i love pac but he was a great actor when it came to fitting in musically.

True, he made some what we can call \"Lil Wayne\" moves, but at the end of the day, a lot of people looked up to him.  And alot of west coast rappers have a connection to him because he threw their DUB up with East Coast swagger, and the timberland boots all open with them jeans, you know, he swag the west out.  Kind of how the Game is doing it now, bcause the Game gets some of his flavor from the East too, even though he\'s really from LA county.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Jaydc on May 05, 2010, 03:31:47 PM
Good ol dubcc,wheres judging by the threads youd think it was 1996
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
this has always been my point.he\\\\\\\'s from the east coast and just claimed whatever made him money at the time.if a bay or la rapper move to ny a new yorker will never say your from thier coast.pac was a bay artist,then  crip affiliated with thug life,then banging mob with shug and the piru\\\\\\\'s.i love pac but he was a great actor when it came to fitting in musically.

True, he made some what we can call \\\\\\\"Lil Wayne\\\\\\\" moves, but at the end of the day, a lot of people looked up to him.  And alot of west coast rappers have a connection to him because he threw their DUB up with East Coast swagger, and the timberland boots all open with them jeans, you know, he swag the west out.  Kind of how the Game is doing it now, bcause the Game gets some of his flavor from the East too, even though he\\\\\\\'s really from LA county.

but you also got to remember, Tupac\\\'s rap name when he was in Oakland was MC NEW YORK, so he was repping, you can look that up.  But when he joined Digital underground, they asked him to drop it, and he started going by his Government Tupac.  So he did rep, i just think the Oakland community was amazed by his flow so much, and supported him so much that he decided to show them love back by repping their soil.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 05, 2010, 03:32:48 PM
I pray to 2pac before I go to bed every night.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 05, 2010, 03:34:12 PM
He represented Oakland/Tha Bay on his first 4 albums.

He shot 90% of his music videos in Oakland.

He never mentioned New York in his music until his 3rd album.

If you were listening to 2Pac in the early 90's 1991-1994 you would have no idea he was from New York since he didn't mention it in his music or portrayed the New York lifestyle in any of his videos.

He did one song about L.A. but he also lived in Atlanta too during 1994-1995 following the footsteps of Too $hort who moved there.

To me being a fan of his since his beginnings is a Bay Area artist because that's what he was known as from 1991-1995 until the whole Death Row confusion.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 03:36:23 PM
He represented Oakland/Tha Bay on his first 4 albums.

He shot 90% of his music videos in Oakland.

He never mentioned New York in his music until his 3rd album.

If you were listening to 2Pac in the early 90\'s 1991-1994 you would have no idea he was from New York since he didn\'t mention it in his music or portrayed the New York lifestyle in any of his videos.

He did one song about L.A. but he also lived in Atlanta too during 1994-1995 following the footsteps of Too $hort who moved there.

his rap name was MC New York, thats repping at its most highest level.  Also, look at him, that reps NY in its self, how many DMX looking niggahs you hear saying they \"thugged out\"...who says we are thugged out, and thugs, where does that terminolgy come from.  Don\'t be stupid and deny facts.  Here we go again.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 05, 2010, 03:37:10 PM
He represented Oakland/Tha Bay on his first 4 albums.

He shot 90% of his music videos in Oakland.

He never mentioned New York in his music until his 3rd album.

If you were listening to 2Pac in the early 90\'s 1991-1994 you would have no idea he was from New York since he didn\'t mention it in his music or portrayed the New York lifestyle in any of his videos.

He did one song about L.A. but he also lived in Atlanta too during 1994-1995 following the footsteps of Too $hort who moved there.

his rap name was MC New York, thats repping at its most highest level.  Also, look at him, that reps NY in its self, how many DMX looking niggahs you hear saying they \"thugged out\"...who says we are thugged out, and thugs, where does that terminolgy come from.  Don\'t be stupid and deny facts.  Here we go again.

Once he moved to Cali MC NEW YORK was dead. U MAD?

No one knew his name was MC New York until the invention of the internet.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 05, 2010, 03:37:45 PM
The answer is he's from wherever he claimed. Primo was originally from the south but everyone knows he's considered an NY producer. Kurupt was originally from Philly but he's considered a west coast rapper. Devin the Dude was born in Florida but we all know him as claiming Houston. I don't think you can just go by where they were born, otherwise you'd have to change the status of all the other rappers as well.

I think we just have to conclude that at the time of his death, he was an LA rapper. But for the majority of his career, he was a Bay rapper. Take that as you will.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on May 05, 2010, 03:39:12 PM
The answer is he's from wherever he claimed. Primo was originally from the south but everyone knows he's considered an NY producer. Kurupt was originally from Philly but he's considered a west coast rapper. Devin the Dude was born in Florida but we all know him as claiming Houston. I don't think you can just go by where they were born, otherwise you'd have to change the status of all the other rappers as well.
Pretty much. 90% of it is what you rep.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on May 05, 2010, 03:39:23 PM
Good ol dubcc,wheres judging by the threads youd think it was 1996
:D
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 03:44:39 PM
He represented Oakland/Tha Bay on his first 4 albums.

He shot 90% of his music videos in Oakland.

He never mentioned New York in his music until his 3rd album.

If you were listening to 2Pac in the early 90\\\'s 1991-1994 you would have no idea he was from New York since he didn\\\'t mention it in his music or portrayed the New York lifestyle in any of his videos.

He did one song about L.A. but he also lived in Atlanta too during 1994-1995 following the footsteps of Too $hort who moved there.

his rap name was MC New York, thats repping at its most highest level.  Also, look at him, that reps NY in its self, how many DMX looking niggahs you hear saying they \\\"thugged out\\\"...who says we are thugged out, and thugs, where does that terminolgy come from.  Don\\\'t be stupid and deny facts.  Here we go again.

Once he moved to Cali MC NEW YORK was dead. U MAD?

No one knew his name was MC New York until the invention of the internet.

you\'re a liar, his name was MC NEW YORK in OAKLAND
until he met digital underground and became a back up dancing, search Shock suggesting him get a face lift.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
The answer is he\'s from wherever he claimed. Primo was originally from the south but everyone knows he\'s considered an NY producer. Kurupt was originally from Philly but he\'s considered a west coast rapper. Devin the Dude was born in Florida but we all know him as claiming Houston. I don\'t think you can just go by where they were born, otherwise you\'d have to change the status of all the other rappers as well.

I think we just have to conclude that at the time of his death, he was an LA rapper. But for the majority of his career, he was a Bay rapper. Take that as you will.

nope, thats hollywood, i live in the real world, Tupac is a rapper from NYC that moved to Oakland, and later, when successful, moved to LA like many others. 
So Will smith is from Miami cause he made the track \"welcome to Miami\"...thats the same thing pac did with \"live and die in LA\", he wanted to give his new home an anthemn to party too, Tupac repped NYC hard, in fact, the whole Outlaws where from the east, the people pac put on, he put on no westsiders. facts are facts.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 05, 2010, 03:50:04 PM
MC New York was in Baltimore. U Mad?

Once he came to Cali, MC New York was dead! HAHA!

 :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 03:52:56 PM
MC New York was in Baltimore. U Mad?

Once he came to Cali, MC New York was dead! HAHA!

 :o  :o  :o  :o

Liar, MC NEW YORK was in Oakland, thats why it was MC New YOrk, he was repping.  but then he teamed up with local oakland group digital underground.

and he repped \"thug life\" ... hmmmm where does that come from.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 05, 2010, 03:54:11 PM
MC New York was in Baltimore. U Mad?

Once he came to Cali, MC New York was dead! HAHA!

 :o  :o  :o  :o

Liar, MC NEW YORK was in Oakland, thats why it was MC New YOrk, he was repping.  but then he teamed up with local oakland group digital underground.

and he repped \"thug life\" ... hmmmm where does that come from.

2Pac was born in Africa u ffukkin liar dont spit ur bullshit here.. we know the truth.., he was born in Kenya in 1971.. gtfoh...

thug life comes from india moron WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!


tupac amaru is an egyptian name and shakur is swahili for gods gift to hip hop
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: blackaUK on May 05, 2010, 04:01:13 PM
MC New York was in Baltimore. U Mad?

Once he came to Cali, MC New York was dead! HAHA!

 :o  :o  :o  :o

Liar, MC NEW YORK was in Oakland, thats why it was MC New YOrk, he was repping.  but then he teamed up with local oakland group digital underground.

and he repped \\\"thug life\\\" ... hmmmm where does that come from.

2Pac was born in Africa u ffukkin liar dont spit ur bullshit here.. we know the truth.., he was born in Kenya in 1971.. gtfoh...

thug life comes from india moron WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!


tupac amaru is an egyptian name and shakur is swahili for gods gift to hip hop

this website is wack, filled of doodoo brains.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 05, 2010, 04:02:41 PM
MC New York was in Baltimore. U Mad?

Once he came to Cali, MC New York was dead! HAHA!

 :o  :o  :o  :o

Liar, MC NEW YORK was in Oakland, thats why it was MC New YOrk, he was repping.  but then he teamed up with local oakland group digital underground.

and he repped \\\"thug life\\\" ... hmmmm where does that come from.

2Pac was born in Africa u ffukkin liar dont spit ur bullshit here.. we know the truth.., he was born in Kenya in 1971.. gtfoh...

thug life comes from india moron WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!


tupac amaru is an egyptian name and shakur is swahili for gods gift to hip hop

this website is wack, filled of doodoo brains.

u cant dispute those facts huh? u lost !!!!
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: K.Dub on May 05, 2010, 04:07:00 PM
 :argue:
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Jaydc on May 05, 2010, 04:07:48 PM
blackauk aka donjuanescobar has my vote for dumbest poster since radiotube.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Do Dirty on May 05, 2010, 04:10:44 PM
this has always been my point.he's from the east coast and just claimed whatever made him money at the time.if a bay or la rapper move to ny a new yorker will never say your from thier coast.pac was a bay artist,then  crip affiliated with thug life,then banging mob with shug and the piru's.i love pac but he was a great actor when it came to fitting in musically.

Name one song where Pac claimed a gang. Don't worry I'll wait. He never said Blood this or Crip that. And he loved the West Coast and came into his own in Oakland, that's why he reps the West. He is not the first or last rapper to move locals and claim the latest. Pac was never shy about saying he was originally from the East, just look at a song like Old School
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Do Dirty on May 05, 2010, 04:15:47 PM
The answer is he\'s from wherever he claimed. Primo was originally from the south but everyone knows he\'s considered an NY producer. Kurupt was originally from Philly but he\'s considered a west coast rapper. Devin the Dude was born in Florida but we all know him as claiming Houston. I don\'t think you can just go by where they were born, otherwise you\'d have to change the status of all the other rappers as well.

I think we just have to conclude that at the time of his death, he was an LA rapper. But for the majority of his career, he was a Bay rapper. Take that as you will.

nope, thats hollywood, i live in the real world, Tupac is a rapper from NYC that moved to Oakland, and later, when successful, moved to LA like many others. 
So Will smith is from Miami cause he made the track \"welcome to Miami\"...thats the same thing pac did with \"live and die in LA\", he wanted to give his new home an anthemn to party too, Tupac repped NYC hard, in fact, the whole Outlaws where from the east, the people pac put on, he put on no westsiders. facts are facts.

The whole Outlawz was not from the East. Big Syke is from Inglewood
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Post by: Muhfukka on May 05, 2010, 04:28:26 PM
tupac should be considered an emotional ballerina who got too big for his britches and got shut up
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 05, 2010, 04:42:44 PM
blackauk aka donjuanescobar has my vote for dumber poster than radiotube.

at least radiotube doesn't create fake aliases to have conversations with himself.
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Post by: DonJuanEscobar on May 05, 2010, 05:02:21 PM
Tupac is a LA lengund in my eyes, cuz he said "it wouldn't be LA without no mezsicanz"!

and all you faggets stop saying my name, I don't got no homies on this shit you fucking buster ass weirdos!
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 05, 2010, 07:56:04 PM
lol i made a topic like this 2 years ago with the same proof of Pac not even being from Cali but riding Cali's nuts (no disrespect Pac, RIP)>  But Dubcc fans r too butthurt to except.  they'll hate on u and call u names and stay in denial.  Fact is Pac was from the East Coast and stayed there most of his life and then moved to Cali like 2 or 3 years b4 he dropped an album.  He's FAAAAAR from WestCoast.  He was only riding the WestCoast wave hard bcuz they were poppin' like that back then and selling rap artist was a new thing so to say back in 91-92.  The execs went with the "safe route".  Pac is my nigga til I die but Pac was fake as shit 4 that 1.  There's still some sour ass niggas in Baltimore bcuz of that too and in DC lol.  Pac is a legend but he was a false representer aswell.


People will try and say anything to not speak this FACT into existance but me personally I think it should.  Not that it's a big deal or anything but I think it should be addressed properly.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 05, 2010, 07:58:25 PM
whats considered bein from a place?
if he lived in oakland for 30 days...was he from there?  if he was visitin their periodically?
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Jaydc on May 05, 2010, 07:59:25 PM
Its not where your from,its where your at.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 05, 2010, 08:05:25 PM
to answer your question...

yes.

because i said so.

 8)
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Post by: sofdark on May 05, 2010, 08:09:02 PM
haha funny how peep from overseas trip about where Tupac was from, it was Pac who repped L.A. and made songs about L.A. , but shit doesn't matter cause he rep the whole coast not just one particular area.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 05, 2010, 08:18:13 PM
"west side til i die"

I think that quote sums it up enough.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 05, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
"west side til i die"

I think that quote sums it up enough.


that still doesn't change the fact that the nigga didn't even step on California soil until he was like 16/17 years old (even 15 deserves an LOL) and then droppd his first album at like 19/20.  if Pac were alive and so was Biggie then Biggie would Common'd 2Pac and that would've been the DECLINE of Pac's career.  say what u want but that's FACT (maybe the biggie thing is a hypothetical but u know eventually Pac woulda called out the wrong person).
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Jaydc on May 05, 2010, 08:24:54 PM
Stop calling your own idiotic thoughts facts.Who cares when he got there?He moved there and lived there and then repped it.End of story.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 05, 2010, 08:27:01 PM
Stop calling your own idiotic thoughts facts.Who cares when he got there?He moved there and lived there and then repped it.End of story.

My Stan calm the fuck down.  I didn't mean 2 offend u.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on May 06, 2010, 05:37:31 AM
"west side til i die"

I think that quote sums it up enough.


that still doesn't change the fact that the nigga didn't even step on California soil until he was like 16/17 years old (even 15 deserves an LOL) and then droppd his first album at like 19/20.  if Pac were alive and so was Biggie then Biggie would Common'd 2Pac and that would've been the DECLINE of Pac's career.  say what u want but that's FACT (maybe the biggie thing is a hypothetical but u know eventually Pac woulda called out the wrong person).

if Biggie didn't respond like this after Hit Em Up, he never would have done
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 06, 2010, 06:36:06 AM
yeah he might have lived in other states/cities but he repped la the most didnt he?
who repped la/west more than pac?
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 07:54:57 AM
FACT:  Pac was born and raised on the EAST COAST MOST OF HIS LIFE before he ever ran those California streets.

FACT:  Pac used to go by MC NY

FACT:  Pac IS NOT FROM CALI, nor the WESTCOAST

FACT:  Pac repped the WestSide and hadn't probably even seen year around summers until then.  When he started reppin it.

FACT:  Pac only started Reppin' the westcoast hard once he signed to DeathRow

FACT:  Most people on here and who are from California/Westside period WONT (and I repeat) WONT aknowledge and only give shitty hypocritical reasons on why Pac was "The WestSide" and most people who know better and otherwise KNOW that you CANT do shit like that.  And also since California is supposed to be the home of the realest niggas to ever bleed on concrete (not that i feel that way), Pac should be considered a Hood Hopper, A Tag-A-Long, A LIAR, A FAKE, and a whole buncha other names.  But since Pac was so HUGE and impactful he gets a pass... kinda like how Barack gets the "black pass" from black people.  

FACT
:  Pac was born in NY, then spent time in Baltimore (and went to school there, and even did an episode on "a different world" as one of Jada's friends from BMore), and then went back 2 NY if I'm not mistaken, and then moved to California later on in his teenage years.  Whether he went back n forth to Cali (which i'm sure he probably didn't do too much considering how broke the nigga was) he STILL at the end of the day is not from California.  

FACT:  Pac NEVER repped New York or Baltimore and he only repped California.  Aside from the MC NY moniker in his uknown stages

FACT:  "It ain't where u from, it's where u at" is definitely a TRUE and ACCURATE statement (I personally know all about it) but when you forget all about where u really come from and don't even really give where u grew up at the aknowledgement it deserves, then u r officially a sell out and a trader... especially when u start hollering WestSide this and WestCoast that when really your not even from there and had only been there maybe a few years before u dropped your first album (claiming Oakland).  Pac rode the WestSide bandwagon that was huge back then.


I'm from VA (well Augusta Georgia born really) and I've only been in Maryland (temple hills baby) for only about 6 years going on 7 at the end of the year.  I've been here since I was 15.  Now I can tell people I LIVE and RESIDE in Maryland and what neighborhood I'm at but ONE THING I CANNOT DO IS CLAIM THAT IM FROM MARYLAND OR DC (considering the other half of Temple Hills {which is small} is in SouthEast DC).  I will always claim VA and I have no choice bcuz doing otherwise is wrong and breaking the rule and fake.  I was raised in VA and grew up in Maryland, I will always stay true to myself and always pay homage to where I'm from, let alone respect VA.  Pac didn't do that, all he did was holla WestSide and didn't have a California bone in his body.  I WILL ALWAYS KNOW THAT PAC IS THE GOAT, THE ELVIS (so to say) Of HIP HOP.  But one thing I'm not gonna do is ride Pac's dick and act like I don't know the truth and deny the FACTS.  

I don't wanna sound like I'm trying to take away or discredit tha man and his legacy, bcuz this FACT alone doesn't really mean shit at the end of the day.  But Pac was fakin'.  

Ok, now all of u sheep can come in and say whatever but u can't ignore or deny the FACTS and continue to live in your blind faith.  I love Pac, he's the GOAT for sure but I'll say it again, Pac was fakin' and didn't keep his shit 100 at the end of the day.  He lived a half ass lie for a highlight/part/all of his career with the whole WestSide thing.  Just whatever u do/say, don't start actin' like ur cool with what i'm sayin and already knew accepted it when whole time u dont and never did, especially when I made this topic years ago.  Thank God i'm not the only 1 on here who KNOWS/ACCEPTS this for what it iz, let alone the world.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 08:11:09 AM
If Pac were to come out with his first bit of material in 2010 and he was a young 19 year old all over again u niggas and crackaz would be hollering Blasphemy and Kill Him for repping Cali and the Westside like he did.  Now that's definitely a FACT aswell lol.  Even if he had the SAME message, flow, talent, beats, and crew (DeathRow and most definitely Tha Outlawz).
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 06, 2010, 08:17:24 AM
lol...write all the essays you want. This is the only fact you need. Fact: Pac claimed westside. SMH at anyone trying to tell a man where he's from. You don't get to tell me where I'm from, its from wherever the hell I want to claim.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 08:26:13 AM
lol...write all the essays you want. This is the only fact you need. Fact: Pac claimed westside. SMH at anyone trying to tell a man where he's from. You don't get to tell me where I'm from, its from wherever the hell I want to claim.


i'm sorry if i can back my shit up and u can't.  but no, THATS NOT TRUE about it not mattering (you're just deflecting).  I can never claim Cali bcuz I love the music and always have and gravitate to it more than anything else in Hip Hop *me personally*.  that's some sucker shit ur doing.  Just bcuz Pac was the GOAT doesn't mean he was GOD, people have the right to call him out on a bluff even if it hurts.

so with that said, now I defintely see the bitch in yoo.  what u just said is a violation and niggas in the street would be plotting on ur next arrival around the way if not at that same moment.  it's funny how u guys can never take shit serious but want people to aknowledge and agree with you on here.  if you start takin some shit serious and not as a joke or a game all of the time and open up ur mind u'll learn something.  i can only image what u do in your life and how yall r outside of your internet life.  




*edited in*

*just showing and not tryna prove shit* but Greenmont Avenue is no nicer than ur roughest hoods out there (whether it's in Oklahoma, California, or New York).  I didn't need this video 2 KNOW that 4 tha record:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okn60F8zFEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5S8bM8o-do&feature=related  (bmore B's & C's go JUST AS HARD as y'all niggaz out Cali, believe it)
http://www.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=19568 (this is just the 1st week of 2010, you can scroll down and c what today's numbers are).  whole time BMore isn't even really all that big compared to the major areas like NYC and anywhere else.

I'm not tryna glorify shit (truthfully i'm not) but this is what it is in MD (and that's not even the whole state, that's just Baltimore alone).  It's a sin and an ultimate contradiction 4 Pac not 2 show tha same love he did for Cali (he was only there for a couple years longer lol).  All I'm sayin' is that there was plenty to there alone.  I've never been 2 NYC but I can imagine that it's not too much better.  Where's the love at.  California wasn't the only thing jumpin' back then (and not now either) so why did Pac fluke out.  U can call me whatever but it still remains true that Pac soaked up mad game from here (even if it was for 2yrs) and most definitely NY.  They said he was a loner and got teased and harassed all day long bcuz he wasn't from there and he had to ACT super tough (not sayin' he was a punk ass nigga).  There's really no significant real point i'm tryna make about Baltimore other than it's no different from any other horrible ghetto out here (especially Cali).  Pac was just ridin' tha WestSide wave back then.  Shit, my grandmother lives literally two street lights away from Greenmont Ave where Waverly alone is enuff 2 make u paranoid as fuck.  Fiends are literally out there day and night (366 on a leap year too), I wish I could make this up but i can't.  I wish it wasn't relevant but it is aswell.  Pac was that nigga and WILL ALWAYS BE and he most definitely wasn't a hypocrite (a hypocrite hypocrite anyways, like a liar/fake ass muthafucka hypocrite) but he definitely contradicted himself on that WestSide shit he's infamous for.  hate it or love it.  Not bankin' on Cali but y'all niggaz ain't tha only locomotives on tha track.  They should make a DeathValley Baltimore foreal lol... but no lol


and this is just The Eastside, i'm not even talking/showing shit about The Westside or any other place (really) in Baltimore County or Maryland.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Do Dirty on May 06, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
If Pac were to come out with his first bit of material in 2010 and he was a young 19 year old all over again u niggas and crackaz would be hollering Blasphemy and Kill Him for repping Cali and the Westside like he did.  Now that's definitely a FACT aswell lol.  Even if he had the SAME message, flow, talent, beats, and crew (DeathRow and most definitely Tha Outlawz).

WRONG!! Prime example is Cashis who reps OC, 714 but was raised in Chi
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 06, 2010, 02:52:58 PM
We accept Ice-T, Xzibit and Kurupt as L.A./West Coast legends... why not Pac?
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 06, 2010, 06:58:58 PM
We accept Ice-T, Xzibit and Kurupt as L.A./West Coast legends... why not Pac?
Good point.  If you want to pick apart who can be considered what, you might as well call Ice Cube a buster for being on Straight Outta Compton with N.W.A when he wasn't even from Compton.  We could find example upon example.  What about Brett Favre?  Is he not a real Viking because he spent fifteen years with the Packers?
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 06, 2010, 07:08:08 PM
You don't get to tell me where I'm from, its from wherever the hell I want to claim.

preach. 8)
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 07:51:17 PM
LMAO!  I KNEW WestCoast peoples would get mad.  It happens everytime.  It's like telling white folks from the south that Elvis wasn't the King of Rock N Roll lol.


First off, let's break this down:


Ca$his:  Honestly, who gives a shit about the nigga.  NOBODY.  Dude could be born and raised in Billings Montana for all anybody care and only lived in Detroit or whever he's from for only 2 months b4 he got signed and dropped an album/mixtape with Whoever really.  point being, son is irrelevant and isn't even up on the chopping board.  he STILL has alot more respect to earn and alot more dues to pay and alot more stories to tell and alot more years to go thru b4 him living in CHICAGO (THE MIDWEST SIDE  ::) ) b4 anybody can even aknowledge him.  Fuck Shady Records.  Son was still from the WestCoast anyways, y'all gotta stop separating the two really.  The WestCoast with & The MidWest are practically the same coast, not to mention the US is in the WESTERN Hemosphere.  Failed attempt homie, i know too much and too much is real.  Mentioning him and 2Pac in tha same sentence is a misdemeanor really.


Kurupt:  See, Kurupt was still young (13) when he moved to Cali and he banged with The Crips, so son can pretty much claim Cali all he wants to.  I remember Kurupt going on 106th N Park back when Space Boogie dropped and gave Philly big props and aknowledged that's where he came from.  So in turn outta ALL of that, son gets a pass.  Plus 13-19 are pretty age defining moments for man for the rest of his life so..., with that said all of his WHOLE entire teenage years were spent on the WestCoast so y not.   U FAIL for that.


Ice T:  Truthfully I don't know exactly when he moved but I know he went to High School out there.  All I know is son actually had a LONG ASS CAREER and most of that time from beginning to end (early 80's to today) was spent in Cali so him claiming California isn't exactly the wrong or bad, he does have a point.


XZibit:  don't know too much but son was from the MidWEST & SouthWEST anyways, Detroit & Albuquerque aren't exactly NOT the WestCoast, considering the FACT that California is not the only place on the WESTCOAST.  So with that being said, him moving to Cali on his own staight outta the MidWEST and SouthWEST it's not a silly/fake ass idea to actually claim the West.  After all like i said, there's more to tha West than California.  Most of y'all don't who r butthurt over Pac NOT actually being from the WestCoast don't even support your own Coast anyways unless it's straight outta Cali.  Them AZ, WA, NV, and whatever else on the WestCoast niggas don't get no support anyways.  U ask me, I support and know more WestCoast shit than all u of u combined.



FACT:  y'all/your comeback is a fail. 
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Jaydc on May 06, 2010, 08:20:06 PM
Ok let me get this straight radiotube,pac moves to the coast when hes 16 and therefore he isnt allowed to claim westside.But kurupt moves when hes 13 but its ok?three years means you cant claim a coast?LOL,you get dumber with each post man.And you also said ages 13-19 are defining years in someones life.So your contradiciting yourself,first saying being as old as 15 is a fail for moving somehwere and claiming it,and then next post saying up t age 19 is ok.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 08:27:10 PM
Ok let me get this straight radiotube,pac moves to the coast when hes 16 and therefore he isnt allowed to claim westside.But kurupt moves when hes 13 but its ok?three years means you cant claim a coast?LOL,you get dumber with each post man.


ur just fuckin' with me so this response isn't exactly directed at u.  this is for those young niggaz and crackaz who don't know.


but if ur 16 and u drop ur first album when you're 19/20 (and you've toured the US before that moment came) THEN NO, YOU A NOT FROM THE WEST COAST.  YOU ARE ANOTHER HOLLYWOOD WANNABE ACTOR/SINGER WHO WANTS TO MAKE IT BIG IN LIFE AND CALIFORNIA BACK THEN (and mostly now) IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD GO TO.  SO NO, 2PAC WAS NOT FROM THE WESTCOAST AND HE SPENT SO LITTLE TIME ACTUALLY LIVING DAY TO DAY IN THE WESTCOAST SO NO, HE CANNOT CLAIM THE WESTCOAST.


kurupt who was originally from Philly, moved to Cali when he was 13 and banged with the Rollin Whatevers until The Chronic was released, which he worked on daily i'm sure (and by that time he was 19).  SO YES, HE CAN ACTUALLY CLAIM THE WESTCOAST.



Jay, u think what I just wrote this second is all for u and u think I'm over here sweatin bullets tryna prove u wrong when that's not even true.  ur little gimmicks dont work with me.  i just shut u up EVERYTIME.  i truely do OVERWHELM u with my knowledge and u admire it.  This discussion right here is 4 all of the little 1's that dont know.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Jaydc on May 06, 2010, 08:29:42 PM
hahahahahhathe only thing you overwhelm people with is your unbelieveable stupidity.People just get bored and stop talking to you because your like talking to a brick wall,your fucking dumb as dirt.


Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 06, 2010, 08:34:08 PM
hahahahahhathe only thing you overwhelm people with is your unbelieveable stupidity.People just get bored and stop talking to you because your like talking to a brick wall,your fucking dumb as dirt.


 :sleep: i betchu u go2 sleep thinking about what i write and u think long and hard about what to say to me next and how 1 day u think somehow ur gonna break me over the internet.  NEWS FLASH MY NIGGA:  I'm not a skinny little punk ass white kid from the suburbs of New Hampsire, you and all of the other internet nonstoppers are faggs and will hold that title until u die.  u take this as a joke, i take it as education.  Ur my new ChamillitaryClick, it's just too bad after tonite's lectures u wont get my quotes.  i already know what you're seeking from me and u wont get it  :nahnah:
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Jaydc on May 06, 2010, 08:36:36 PM
Have you noticed that nobody ever agrees with you and everyone thinks your an idiot?
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 07, 2010, 02:13:17 PM
"ii no mo' we$tC0@stt shiiiiiii den all u fags cumbined (I know more Westcoast shit than all of you combined)".

-Radiotube.

he brightens days lol.
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 07, 2010, 02:16:37 PM
i already know what you're seeking from me and u wont get it  :nahnah:

your anal virginity? ask lights
Title: Re: should 2pac be considered a LA legand ? if so why and how
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 08, 2010, 04:05:29 AM
Quote
Drop the top on your muthafuckin ride
This how we do it on the west coast BAABBBY

"stay true", thug life  volume 1, 1994

..and this was before DR.