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Title: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 09, 2010, 09:16:45 PM
who


defense included...
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: Lunatic on May 09, 2010, 09:18:50 PM
ryan howard
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 10, 2010, 07:04:22 AM
2. Mark Teixiera
3. Adrian Gonzalez
4. Prince Fielder
5. Kevin Youkilis
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2010, 07:11:43 AM
Quote from: Knuckles on May 10, 2010, 07:04:22 AM
2. Mark Teixiera
3. Adrian Gonzalez
4. Prince Fielder
5. Kevin Youkilis

Ryan Howard and Miggy C are not in your top 5??
 
Pukilis over Morneau?  i expected better from you Knuckles :D



you are right on Teix being 2nd....nobody plays better defense than him and he's going to end up as a .300 hitter with 30 homers/100 RBI despite starting slow every year
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: Javier on May 10, 2010, 12:09:56 PM
Imagine the type of love Adrian Gonzalez would get if he didn't play half his games at Petco?
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: white Boy on May 10, 2010, 12:15:11 PM
i mean, im biased, how can i not go for ryan, who has really upped his D game.
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 10, 2010, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on May 10, 2010, 07:11:43 AM
Ryan Howard and Miggy C are not in your top 5??
 
Pukilis over Morneau?  i expected better from you Knuckles :D



you are right on Teix being 2nd....nobody plays better defense than him and he's going to end up as a .300 hitter with 30 homers/100 RBI despite starting slow every year

Tex is a clear #2 but it tough ranking 3-8 or so.
I hate Youkilis but I gotta put him up there.  Miggy is close.  Howard is quite overrated, all HRs and RBI.  Probably have him 8.

It's really:

1. Pujols



2. Tex


3-7. Gonzo, Prince, Youk, Miggy & Morneau
8. Howard
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 10, 2010, 01:01:08 PM
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5889/cabreraj.jpg)

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3843/fielder.jpg)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3731/gonzalez.jpg)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7430/howarde.jpg)

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3379/morneau.jpg)

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1584/youkilis.jpg)

(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5674/warhs.jpg)
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: the ghost on May 10, 2010, 03:06:40 PM
Tex and A Gon.  Both premo defenders with plenty of hitting ability.  Imagine Tex for a whole year of hitting not minus a month like he does every year, and Agon playing in Yankee stadium instead of Cavernco all season ;)
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2010, 10:03:51 PM
i've always been a huge OPS+ guy for sluggers....obviously it is not a metric for Ichiro or Jeter but for power guys it's my favorite


i'm shocked to notice that Howard is 2nd best on that list of walks per 162 games  (dude clearly peaked the year he won his MVP with 58 homers)



Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: white Boy on May 11, 2010, 07:47:23 AM
what are those batting ratings based on?
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 11, 2010, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: white Boy on May 11, 2010, 07:47:23 AM
what are those batting ratings based on?

Which ones? 
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: white Boy on May 11, 2010, 08:23:46 AM
on the bottim chart you posted the first collumn under "batting" pujols is 152.9
Title: Re: best first baseman in baseball
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 11, 2010, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: white Boy on May 11, 2010, 08:23:46 AM
on the bottim chart you posted the first collumn under "batting" pujols is 152.9

Batting is "Park Adjusted Runs Above Average based on wOBA"
The link to that screenshot: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2010&month=12